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Texansballer74

The Marine
Exactly who are you referring to? I believe I'm the only one who has pointed out Mills' injury to his thumb. And I didn't use this injury as an excuse; I simply pointed out the fact. In a previous post I mentioned I didn't know what impact the injury had on his game. But you and several other posters totally ignore the fact he had this injury. On multiple occasions I asked for comment on whether a thumb injury was impactful on a qb's play which you and others chose to ignore. My posts are simply offered to counterbalance your shortsightedness.
If the shoe fits, wear it proudly.? Nothing about my stance is shortsighted at all. This is something I’ve noticed for years about a select few. When they don’t like a player, they’re extra critical.?l When they like a certain player , they throw around the same excuses they claim others do for the player they don’t like.

Did you ask this same exact counterbalance question when Watson was playing with hurt ribs?
 
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thunderkyss

Just win baby!!!
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They didn’t do it backwards this time. They did something similar to what the Bengals did when they drafted Burrow. The Colts did with Manning. Then those two started building .
All because we don’t like or wouldn’t have done that way, doesn’t mean they’re wrong.
Neither the Colts or the Bengals had a brand new HC & a brand new OC. Neither the Colts or the Bengals fired their previous HC & OC twice in the previous two seasons.

We need to tackle better, we need to block better, we haven't played at an NFL level in a minute.
 

thunderkyss

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When they don’t like a player, they’re extra critical.?l When they like a certain player , they throw around the same excuses they claim others do for the playe they don’t like.
Do you by chance notice when you're doing the same thing?
Did you ask this same exact counterbalance question when Watson was playing with hurt ribs?
I'm pretty sure I defended Watson up until that day he said he didn't want to be in Houston.
 

Texansballer74

The Marine
Neither the Colts or the Bengals had a brand new HC & a brand new OC. Neither the Colts or the Bengals fired their previous HC & OC twice in the previous two seasons.

We need to tackle better, we need to block better, we haven't played at an NFL level in a minute.
They still drafted their franchise quarterback and built around them.

Both of those teams were not good at all. Especially the Bengals, they were dealing with bull crap too.
 

Texansballer74

The Marine
Once Watson was drafted I don't recall posting one way or the other on him. Until the *hitstorm hit, in fact, I was rather in his corner, about like I'm now in Stroud's corner. But I don't ignore facts.
Then I wasn’t talking about you Numbers. And again when he got hurt against Dallas and played the following week, why didn’t we question those who we’re questioning his decision making, holding onto the ball too long and etc?
 

76Texan

Hall of Fame
It's not defending a player to say I'm going to give him three years before I close the book on him. That's all I said.
Unless you're a first round QB, you're not gonna have that much of a chance.

Mills TD/INT ratio was 33-25 with a pedestrian 6.1 AYA (air yard per attempt).
He ran 50 times for 152 yards, roughly 3ypc
He had 26 starts, going 5-19-1

Minshew had 24 starts, going 8-16
TD/INT ratio 37-11 with a 7.2+ AYA
He ran 96 times for 497 yards, 5ypc.

In came Lawrence.
Bye-bye Minshew.
 

Texansballer74

The Marine
Do you by chance notice when you're doing the same thing?

I'm pretty sure I defended Watson up until that day he said he didn't want to be in Houston.
I wasn’t talking about you either then. And no I am not extra critical on any player unless it’s warranted.

For the record I was pulling for Mills last season to be the man. If he stands out, we’re not drafting CJ.
 

steelbtexan

King of the W. B. Club
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I agree, for the most part. Not a lot of "good" tape on Davis in 2022. I never thought he was going to be a franchise QB, but I think he could be a solid starter. Hopefully we don't ever find out. We got Cj.

& I'm not mad the Texans drafted Cj. I wouldn't have. Nothing against Cj. But we've been doing things backaswards for a while now & it needs to stop.
The backaswards has continued.

Not building a team out before drafting your QB?

Where have I seen this show before?
 
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steelbtexan

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They didn’t do it backwards this time. They did something similar to what the Bengals did when they drafted Burrow. The Colts did with Manning. Then those two started building .
All because we don’t like or wouldn’t have done it that way, doesn’t mean they’re wrong.
Like with Carr

Doesn't mean their right either.

Their track record over the last 2 decades says they most likely got it wrong.
 

thunderkyss

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Unless you're a first round QB, you're not gonna have that much of a chance.

Mills TD/INT ratio was 33-25 with a pedestrian 6.1 AYA (air yard per attempt).
He ran 50 times for 152 yards, roughly 3ypc
He had 26 starts, going 5-19-1

Minshew had 24 starts, going 8-16
TD/INT ratio 37-11 with a 7.2+ AYA
He ran 96 times for 497 yards, 5ypc.

In came Lawrence.
Bye-bye Minshew.
How would you compare Stroud to Lawrence coming out of college?
 

steelbtexan

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Then I won't go to you for talent evaluation. Mills wasn't good in college, the few games he did play there. Not sure he even would have been the starter there if Costello hadn't transfered.

I don't know why some try so hard to defend mediocre players. You can do it Tom Savage. Let's go, baby!! TJ Yates won a playoff game. Doesn't make him any good either. Mills has won nothing, not even in college. Dude is not good and it sucks that he's first off the bench here instead of Case. Not that the Texans are going places if Stroud is out and Case takes over, but they're for sure going nowhere if Mills has to take over.
What spreadsheet lead you to this conclusion.

Fact is Mills didn't stand a chance. Not that I wanted Mills to remain the starting QB without competition.
 

76Texan

Hall of Fame
How would you compare Stroud to Lawrence coming out of college?
To be honest, I didn't watch enough of Lawrence's game tapes (and really do some research about his team and the opponents that he faced) to have a strong opinion.
I just knew that some team was going to draft him high, because he did play well.
The Texans weren't going to get him, so who cares. That was what I thought.
 

Texansballer74

The Marine
Like with Carr

Doesn't mean their right either.

Their track record over the last 2 decades says they most likely got it wrong.
That doesn’t mean it will happen to Stroud. It didn’t stunt D4 growth.

Did you see how many times Burrow was sacked/hit? Didn’t stunt his growth either.
 

SnakeEyes

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I do agree with the article. I think as long as the D has geled pretty well our pass rush should be outstanding. On 610 yesterday about 6pm (they have it in podcast form) I think this is the right one. That some feel Anderson is going to end up being as good or better than Watt. I will not compare him to someone like JJ yet. They reason he could be better than JJ is more speed and he can move around the D as a D lineman or line up as a LB. Making him get fewer double teams and due to his speed and ability, be able to cover a TE or RB. Not sure if this is going to end up true. But, I 100% feel that he no question has some amazing ability that could allow him to be as good as JJ in about 3yrs. Just my opinion.
 

jradMIT

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I do agree with the article. I think as long as the D has geled pretty well our pass rush should be outstanding. On 610 yesterday about 6pm (they have it in podcast form) I think this is the right one. That some feel Anderson is going to end up being as good or better than Watt. I will not compare him to someone like JJ yet. They reason he could be better than JJ is more speed and he can move around the D as a D lineman or line up as a LB. Making him get fewer double teams and due to his speed and ability, be able to cover a TE or RB. Not sure if this is going to end up true. But, I 100% feel that he no question has some amazing ability that could allow him to be as good as JJ in about 3yrs. Just my opinion.
Anderson isn’t on the same level as JJ as a pure athlete. JJ’s SPARQ athletic score is basically off the charts, 99th percentile. We forget how crazy and unreal of an athlete JJ was. It’s not a fair comparison. WAJ measureables were very good 76th percentile, putting in the top 25% at the position, but WATT displayed the kind of athleticism that is extremely rare. When they are throwing out JJ’s name before WAJ has even played a down, it’s kinda setting the expectations way to high to early.


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Lucky

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Anderson isn’t on the same level as JJ as a pure athlete. JJ’s SPARQ athletic score is basically off the charts, 99th percentile. We forget how crazy and unreal of an athlete JJ was. It’s not a fair comparison. WAJ measureables were very good 76th percentile, putting in the top 25% at the position, but WATT displayed the kind of athleticism that is extremely rare. When they are throwing out JJ’s name before WAJ has even played a down, it’s kinda setting the expectations way to high to early.


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By the same token, Watt was not nearly as skilled as Anderson entering the league. No one in the league would have considered a raw Watt over Von Miller entering the draft. But J.J. kept working, and his work ethic, tenacity, combined with his ability made him an all time great. That's what Ryans sees in Anderson. That's what J.J. sees in Anderson. I think Anderson is entering the league underrated. Because if everyone knew how good this guy is going to be, the Texans would not have had a chance to trade up to get him.
 
By the same token, Watt was not nearly as skilled as Anderson entering the league. No one in the league would have considered a raw Watt over Von Miller entering the draft. But J.J. kept working, and his work ethic, tenacity, combined with his ability made him an all time great. That's what Ryans sees in Anderson. That's what J.J. sees in Anderson. I think Anderson is entering the league underrated. Because if everyone knew how good this guy is going to be, the Texans would not have had a chance to trade up to get him.
Sure hope your right...He def shows the work ethic and the humility to be great...hope he continues to work hard and progress and STAY HEALTHY...id hate to see an injury derail this young mans potential.
 


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