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2023 TEXANS DRAFT DISCUSSION

The1ApplePie said:
I don't see that being the case at all. You are getting your QB either this year or next year. Enough time has passed since Watson for the rebuilding thing to be over with. The team should at least be competitive in 2024. Probably not playoffs, but ready to make the jump.

If the Texans aren't on the rise in 2024, then they completely pissed away the haul they got for Watson.
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It's not going to be easy winning against the AFC for a few years at least.
 
zshawn10 said:
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"Texans do things differently; took Stingley even when most people had Sauce over him, took Kenyon Green over other o line man that were better, texans keep things close to the vest, I am hearing the Demeco formula is to get a long defensive guy and that is Tyree who had a leg injury but the medicals have been cleared, Lombardi has the same thing who has ties to Caserio from New England"
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There are several defensive line candidates in this draft not named Tyree Wilson. Medicals cleared (?) But to what extent? Why would anyone trust Houston Methodist doctors evaluation? I am huge Tyree fan.. but Lisfranc.. if it turns out to be as Doc suggested? No thanks.
 
Texansphan said:
It's not going to be easy winning against the AFC for a few years at least.
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AFC South should be manageable, since only the Jags are really a threat. And the Jags tend to randomly explode.

At the end of the day, you need a great QB and a good system to help him flourish. The rest is gravy.
 
KemahKeith said:
Was Nix the guy we drafted a few years back that didn't have the desire to bein the NFL. Think he got hurt and never came back. Memory is a bit foggy on this. NFL requires 100% commitment.
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IIRC chocolate got into coaches dog house over conditioning and his comments he was going to post to social media about being an NFL rookie. Seemed to be more interested in the Irish Chocolate personae than nose tackle.
 
badboy said:
Taking a project at 1.2 on this roster? Nuh uh. No how. No way.
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So the Bills made a huge mistake drafting Josh Allen? You can't crawl into a turtle shell and get the big rewards.

Big rewards almost by default demand big risks, whether in business, in relationships, and of course in sports.

In other words, go big or go home.
 
"Texans do things differently; took Stingley even when most people had Sauce over him, took Kenyon Green over other o line man that were better, texans keep things close to the vest, I am hearing the Demeco formula is to get a long defensive guy and that is Tyree who had a leg injury but the medicals have been cleared, Lombardi has the same thing who has ties to Caserio from New England"
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No one can argue with "The Texans do things differently". But using Mike Lombardi as a 2nd source? Like he's close to Caserio? Wasn't Lombardi saying the Texans would have a front office shakeup after the draft, then Caserio had to give a presser saying he wasn't going anywhere? That's the guy you want to corroborate the Tyree Wilson at #2 rumor?
 
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If the Texans are in position to draft Williams or Maye next year, then that means DeMeco is an awful coach and the recent draft picks are all bums. Also, if the QB class next year live up to the hype, no one is trading down with the Texans. Not even for a Ricky Williams type haul.
 
TheMatrix31 said:
I'm not too knowledgeable in terms of tactics and such but just looking at the footage, it seems like this is the type of guy that you'll put him on the field wherever and he'll find the action. Cushing-y.
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Yes. 9.5 sacks, 5 passes defended and 1 INT as a middle linebacker. He was compared to Tremaine edmunds.
 
austins23 said:
I'd take Jimmy G over any of the QB's for this year. :hides:
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The talk is for Raiders to draft a QB that is not for this year; to replace the G at some point as they hope not to have this high of a pick going forward.

Similar discussion among fans with Geno Smith and those of Jared Goff. That is where my optimism come from that bidding among these teams as well as Commanders and perhaps Patriots will give a huge haul perhaps better than Bears received.

If Levis goes to Panthers, what would Young bring at 1.2?
 
Porky said:
So the Bills made a huge mistake drafting Josh Allen? You can't crawl into a turtle shell and get the big rewards.

Big rewards almost by default demand big risks, whether in business, in relationships, and of course in sports.

In other words, go big or go home.
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You think the Bills considered Josh Allen a project? 🤣😂

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Buffalo Bills History: Drafting Josh Allen

In the 2018 NFL Draft, the Buffalo Bills desperately needed a long-term answer at quarterback. They’d just traded their drought-busting QB, Tyrod Taylor, to the Cleveland Browns for a third-round pick, leaving the depth chart bare. The roster was in full clearout mode, and they needed that...
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CloakNNNdagger said:
I just came across a picture of Tyree Wilson being carted off after his season-end foot injury. Now I have to reconsider his injury. The bandage he is sporting in the pic is not one you expect for a Jones fracture. Rather, it's one I would place for a midfoot sprain..........specifically a Lisfranc injury.



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Are you talking about the spat on his left foot?

I believe his foot injury was on the right foot.

On the left that's just spat to try to prevent ankle injuries.

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leebigeztx said:
You have to have a motor and talent in the nfl. My man Tim Ryan had 20 sacks his last year at USC and couldn't smell a sack in NFL. If you don't have that burst as a pass rusher, you'll be an average rusher.
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Thousand percent.



Also, I still feel like Carolina traded up to get Stroud and I'm not totally sure that's changed.

You don't trade up to #1 for the **** of it. I don't think, anyway.
 
The1ApplePie said:
It is a flat-out insult to the fanbase to try and run it back with Mills under center. The team with him isn't just bad, but unwatchable. I doubt Case is going to light it up either.

If they aren't going first round QB, they need to address the QB situation in a trade, with at least a band-aid. A later round developmental project ain't it.
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Aw, come on man. Mills just hasn't got his first SB with us yet, give him time. Let him start for another three or four years to find out. :D
 
Xopher said:
I would take Levis or Richardson over Stroud. Levis was hurt last year and had a terrible supporting cast. Richardson had some bad passes at the beginning of the season, but his receivers were abysmal. They had 9 drops in the 2nd half of one game. I believe (I could be wrong) had either one of them played at OSU and Stroud played at KY or UF we wouldn't be talking about him.
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Name a OSU QB that has had a good NFL career. Not great. Not HoF. Just good. I'll wait...
If I were drafting on pure upside, I'd draft Richardson in a heartbeat. I'm also on record for being in favor of sitting rookie QBs until they earn the starting job. So, in this scenario, I'd draft Richardson at 1.2 and promptly place him 3rd behind Keenum and Mills. If you believe a QB is "the guy", or will be, you can't draft him too high. Who wouldn't draft TB12 at 1.1 in the 2000 draft? Who wouldn't give up boat loads of draft picks to have drafted TB12 in 2000?
 
The1ApplePie said:
It is a flat-out insult to the fanbase to try and run it back with Mills under center. The team with him isn't just bad, but unwatchable. I doubt Case is going to light it up either.

If they aren't going first round QB, they need to address the QB situation in a trade, with at least a band-aid. A later round developmental project ain't it.
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There's a pretty good chance Hooker is who they are targeting and have been all along. They've met with him a lot. The Texans could get the edge rusher AND the quarterback they want. I would not be opposed to moving back into the first round to take Hooker late Thursday night. They have enough draft collateral to make it happen w/o giving up too much.
 
DocBar said:
If you believe a QB is "the guy", or will be, you can't draft him too high. Who wouldn't draft TB12 at 1.1 in the 2000 draft? Who wouldn't give up boat loads of draft picks to have drafted TB12 in 2000?
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Except no one knew TB12 would be the all-time GOAT in 2000. He showed very little upside unless you dug deep. That's why he lasted until the 6th round. And no one can draft in hindsight
 
Starting to look like the Texans built their whole offseason on getting Bryce Young, and are now acting like a deer in the headlights because they don't have a backup plan. DeMeco and Nick probably had Stroud on their board, then got overwritten by the McNairs being butthurt about the agent.

Case was brought in to be a mentor to a QB. If they wanted a QB with some potential, they would have targeted Jimmy G, White, or Minschew instead. They also got Schultz to be a safety valve for a rookie QB.
 
The1ApplePie said:
Starting to look like the Texans built their whole offseason on getting Bryce Young, and are now acting like a deer in the headlights because they don't have a backup plan. DeMeco and Nick probably had Stroud on their board, then got overwritten by the McNairs being butthurt about the agent.

Case was brought in to be a mentor to a QB. If they wanted a QB with some potential, they would have targeted Jimmy G, White, or Minschew instead. They also got Schultz to be a safety valve for a rookie QB.
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How so ? What did they do or say to have you thinking this way? And I’m not talking about what someone else said.
 
The1ApplePie said:
Starting to look like the Texans built their whole offseason on getting Bryce Young, and are now acting like a deer in the headlights because they don't have a backup plan. DeMeco and Nick probably had Stroud on their board, then got overwritten by the McNairs being butthurt about the agent.
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Where do you get that assumption? Looks to me like DeMeco/Casserio have the teams under them shook and paying attention. The #2 pick is the pivot point of the entire 1st round and the Houston front office has been extra quiet.
 
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My dream would be to trade back with someone from #2 and accumulate picks, then draft Witherspoon or Gonzalez. Then at #12 take one of those pass rusher types y'all are nutting about around there. Then, I guess and I don't really have much strong opinion about this part but *if* Hooker is the guy then trade back into the 1st using some of the capital we acquired from #2 drop down to grab him.

End night 1 with a star defensive back, a pass rusher or LB, and a quarterback.

"Who says no?"
 
DocBar said:
Name a OSU QB that has had a good NFL career. Not great. Not HoF. Just good. I'll wait...
If I were drafting on pure upside, I'd draft Richardson in a heartbeat. I'm also on record for being in favor of sitting rookie QBs until they earn the starting job. So, in this scenario, I'd draft Richardson at 1.2 and promptly place him 3rd behind Keenum and Mills. If you believe a QB is "the guy", or will be, you can't draft him too high. Who wouldn't draft TB12 at 1.1 in the 2000 draft? Who wouldn't give up boat loads of draft picks to have drafted TB12 in 2000?
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Wait, you do not want an Ohio state University quarterback because none from that school has been a good NFL quarterback yet you want Richardson from Florida. ? What NFL quarterbacks of theirs was really good?
 
badboy said:
Wait, you do not want an Ohio state University quarterback because none from that school has been a good NFL quarterback yet you want Richardson from Florida. ? What NFL quarterbacks of theirs was really good?
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Tebow 🤣
 
banned1976 said:
There's a pretty good chance Hooker is who they are targeting and have been all along. They've met with him a lot. The Texans could get the edge rusher AND the quarterback they want. I would not be opposed to moving back into the first round to take Hooker late Thursday night. They have enough draft collateral to make it happen w/o giving up too much.
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Where does Nick Caserio trade back into 1st round to make sure he gets Hooker?
 
The1ApplePie said:
If the Texans are in position to draft Williams or Maye next year, then that means DeMeco is an awful coach and the recent draft picks are all bums. Also, if the QB class next year live up to the hype, no one is trading down with the Texans. Not even for a Ricky Williams type haul.
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Already been preaching that. Even with a ton of draft capital, there's no guarantee you find a trade partner.

DocBar said:
Name a OSU QB that has had a good NFL career. Not great. Not HoF. Just good. I'll wait...
If I were drafting on pure upside, I'd draft Richardson in a heartbeat.
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Some of you guys are pretty funny. Using your very own argument, name a Florida QB with a good career. I'll wait...
 
The1ApplePie said:
If the Texans aren't on the rise in 2024, then they completely pissed away the haul they got for Watson.
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That wouldn’t be unheard of. Deep down most of us expect it.

I’m not onboard with starting a rebuild by drafting a QB. You probably don’t want to admit it’s a rebuild, but that’s how I’m looking at it.

I do not want to draft a QB if it’s possible he’ll have two OCs in the next two/three years. Slowick never installed an offense anywhere. Slowick never game planned an offensive anywhere. Slowick never called plays anywhere.

If I’m the GM, & you’re damLucky I’m not, I want to make sure Slowick can protect a QB & open holes for a RB.

I’m not drafting a QB unless I want to have his baby
 
badboy said:
Wait, you do not want an Ohio state University quarterback because none from that school has been a good NFL quarterback yet you want Richardson from Florida. ? What NFL quarterbacks of theirs was really good?
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I was making a hypothetical based on upside.
 
Speedy said:
Already been preaching that. Even with a ton of draft capital, there's no guarantee you find a trade partner.



Some of you guys are pretty funny. Using your very own argument, name a Florida QB with a good career. I'll wait...
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I was making a hypothetical based on upside.
 
JB said:
Except no one knew TB12 would be the all-time GOAT in 2000. He showed very little upside unless you dug deep. That's why he lasted until the 6th round. And no one can draft in hindsight
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And no one knows who will bang or bust in this draft. The draft is a crapshoot. You take your best shot and live with it.
 
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thunderkyss said:
That wouldn’t be unheard of. Deep down most of us expect it.

I’m not onboard with starting a rebuild by drafting a QB. You probably don’t want to admit it’s a rebuild, but that’s how I’m looking at it.

I do not want to draft a QB if it’s possible he’ll have two OCs in the next two/three years. Slowick never installed an offense anywhere. Slowick never game planned an offensive anywhere. Slowick never called plays anywhere.

If I’m the GM, & you’re damLucky I’m not, I want to make sure Slowick can protect a QB & open holes for a RB.

I’m not drafting a QB unless I want to have his baby
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The rebuild has been going on for at least a year. Once you started using all of the Watson picks, you are in a rebuild. The team burned through two joke coaches because they are in a rebuild.

The process has been started, time to start making real headway. This isn't the MLB, you don't get a decade. This is year two of the rebuild, and it is reasonable to be competitive after three years. DeMeco wasn't hired to go 6-12 for the next three years.
 
If I had my own podcast:

Breaking nudes.. er news!
My inside source Hannah McNair informed me that her GM has traded Corner Derek Stingley to Pittsburgh for 1.17 and 2.32.

Agreement with Indy sending 1.4 + 2.35 + 2024 round 1 for 1.2.

Agreement with Raiders for 1.7 + round 1 in 2024 + Maxx Crosby for 1.4.

Agreement to send 1.12
To Seattle for 1.20 + 27 + 52.


Wait...

Breaking news! Janice McNair just informed me that Hannah has been traded...
 
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