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2020 Free Agency

badboy

Hall of Fame
The Tunsil talks must not be going well
or our GM may be trying to bring in another pro bowl offensive lineman that would definitely help #4 and our running game. If we could trade a player we don't need/want for him that would be fantastic. I posted somewhere that talking head on radio said he could be had for a third round..just for a discussion point.
 

RGV82

Random guy
Yup. Solid report, and have been reading similar reports elsewhere as well: "The Houston Chronicle's Aaron Wilson reports it's unlikely that the Texans re-sign free agent DT D.J. Reader. Reader could command upwards of $9-13 million annually."
 

steelbtexan

King of the W. B. Club
Contributor's Club
Yup. Solid report, and have been reading similar reports elsewhere as well: "The Houston Chronicle's Aaron Wilson reports it's unlikely that the Texans re-sign free agent DT D.J. Reader. Reader could command upwards of $9-13 million annually."
I remember TB saying to me something along these lines,

SBT how would you know if they aren't going to bring Reader back?
 

kiwitexansfan

Hall of Fame
As my avatar suggests DJ Reader is my favourite Texan, in saying that, knowing we need to pay Tunsil and Watson, letting Reader walks 'makes sense'.

Having a franchise QB not on a rookie contract massively impacts your cap and a franchise LT isn't far behind. Just feel lucky we don't have a premier pass-rushers and corners to pay too
 

281Texan

Waterboy
I think BOB was more of a desperation value, than a true market value.
that’s the bad part of letting your HC play GM when his back is against the wall. He will overpay without any regard to your future if it buys him cushion. Even Tunsil, great player, I was ecstatic when the deal was announced, but TWO firsts AND a second when this was a deep tackle class? No thanks. Do you think if we didn’t have Tunsil we would be a playoff team? I guarantee if we didn’t make that Tunsil trade we fall short of where we were this season and OB is gone. Had we stayed pat, we could’ve gotten Andrew Thomas, Jedrick Willis, Wirfs, etc. you could’ve gotten your LT and still had a plethora of picks to upgrade the secondary and add another couple offensive weapons, AND have a lot more cap space to play with in free agency.

I saw we checked in on Trent Williams, I don’t know what his trade value is, but if we could trade Tunsil for him and get a first back in the deal, even if it’s next year, I’d do it
 

281Texan

Waterboy
As my avatar suggests DJ Reader is my favourite Texan, in saying that, knowing we need to pay Tunsil and Watson, letting Reader walks 'makes sense'.

Having a franchise QB not on a rookie contract massively impacts your cap and a franchise LT isn't far behind. Just feel lucky we don't have a premier pass-rushers and corners to pay too
The sad part is we paid mercilus as a premier pass rusher when he really isn’t. Same with nick Martin. Another bad reason to let HC play GM. He overpays his guys he likes, even if they’re not the best
 

beerlover

Hall of Fame
McCarron's skillset is closer to what BOB really wants his offense to look like.

I would love for them to sign Judon, I would pay big $$$$ for him. The Ravens are going to do what it takes to bring him back.

The edge most likely to be available is Quinn. What do you think about adding Quinn? He was very productive last yr.
You just laid out the key statement people should sit up and take notice.
 

steelbtexan

King of the W. B. Club
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that’s the bad part of letting your HC play GM when his back is against the wall. He will overpay without any regard to your future if it buys him cushion. Even Tunsil, great player, I was ecstatic when the deal was announced, but TWO firsts AND a second when this was a deep tackle class? No thanks. Do you think if we didn’t have Tunsil we would be a playoff team? I guarantee if we didn’t make that Tunsil trade we fall short of where we were this season and OB is gone. Had we stayed pat, we could’ve gotten Andrew Thomas, Jedrick Willis, Wirfs, etc. you could’ve gotten your LT and still had a plethora of picks to upgrade the secondary and add another couple offensive weapons, AND have a lot more cap space to play with in free agency.

I saw we checked in on Trent Williams, I don’t know what his trade value is, but if we could trade Tunsil for him and get a first back in the deal, even if it’s next year, I’d do it
It really only cost a 2021 1st for Tunsil. He's better than any LT in this class. So it wasn't an overpay.
 

steelbtexan

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The sad part is we paid mercilus as a premier pass rusher when he really isn’t. Same with nick Martin. Another bad reason to let HC play GM. He overpays his guys he likes, even if they’re not the best
Agreed about this.

BOB overpaid for slightly above avg talent.

Looks like Mercilus is going to be a Texans for life.
 

steelbtexan

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You just laid out the key statement people should sit up and take notice.
And until they find that style of QB they won't win anything with BOB as HC.

Unless Kelly can figure out how to thread the needle between what BOB wants to do and what DW4's strengths are.
 

Texansballer74

Hall of Fame
that’s the bad part of letting your HC play GM when his back is against the wall. He will overpay without any regard to your future if it buys him cushion. Even Tunsil, great player, I was ecstatic when the deal was announced, but TWO firsts AND a second when this was a deep tackle class? No thanks. Do you think if we didn’t have Tunsil we would be a playoff team? I guarantee if we didn’t make that Tunsil trade we fall short of where we were this season and OB is gone. Had we stayed pat, we could’ve gotten Andrew Thomas, Jedrick Willis, Wirfs, etc. you could’ve gotten your LT and still had a plethora of picks to upgrade the secondary and add another couple offensive weapons, AND have a lot more cap space to play with in free agency.

I saw we checked in on Trent Williams, I don’t know what his trade value is, but if we could trade Tunsil for him and get a first back in the deal, even if it’s next year, I’d do it
Trent is seeking 20 million a year contract. Unless they let Tunsil walk, there’s no way we’re getting TW and keeping LT.
 
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badboy

Hall of Fame
As my avatar suggests DJ Reader is my favourite Texan, in saying that, knowing we need to pay Tunsil and Watson, letting Reader walks 'makes sense'.

Having a franchise QB not on a rookie contract massively impacts your cap and a franchise LT isn't far behind. Just feel lucky we don't have a premier pass-rushers and corners to pay too
Au contraire I am hoping we do have at least one cornerback in Byron Jones and maybe not a premier but a very good olb in Vic Beasley to pay. :tiphat:
 

badboy

Hall of Fame
that’s the bad part of letting your HC play GM when his back is against the wall. He will overpay without any regard to your future if it buys him cushion. Even Tunsil, great player, I was ecstatic when the deal was announced, but TWO firsts AND a second when this was a deep tackle class? No thanks. Do you think if we didn’t have Tunsil we would be a playoff team? I guarantee if we didn’t make that Tunsil trade we fall short of where we were this season and OB is gone. Had we stayed pat, we could’ve gotten Andrew Thomas, Jedrick Willis, Wirfs, etc. you could’ve gotten your LT and still had a plethora of picks to upgrade the secondary and add another couple offensive weapons, AND have a lot more cap space to play with in free agency.

I saw we checked in on Trent Williams, I don’t know what his trade value is, but if we could trade Tunsil for him and get a first back in the deal, even if it’s next year, I’d do it
True with everything you said however we might not have DeShaun Watson going forward without Tunsil keeping him on his feet.
 

badboy

Hall of Fame
Does anyone know how many CBs (names) on the roster are currently under contract?
Conley a trade with Raiders costing a third and Lonnie Johnson 2.54 are only significant ones. If Weaver thinks LJ can play outside or lock down slot (where I want him) team could pass on a prime corner in free agency and look solely at drafting one.
 

steelbtexan

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Conley a trade with Raiders costing a third and Lonnie Johnson 2.54 are only significant ones. If Weaver thinks LJ can play outside or lock down slot (where I want him) team could pass on a prime corner in free agency and look solely at drafting one.
I wish they would sign the top FA corner and draft 2 more CB's including a good slot CB. I've got very little faith in LJ after watching him get worked by Kelce.

How would you feel about a draft like this to fix the secondary,

Rd. 2 Arnette
Rd.3 Chinn (I just found out he's Steve Atwater's nephew)
Rd.4 Robertson
Rd.4 Willie Gay Jr
Rd.4 Duvernay

This is a realistic mock IMHO

Or if you want to add much needed speed

Rd.2 Dugger
Rd.3 Reggie Robinson CB Tulsa
Rd.4 Amik Robertson CB La Tech
Rd.4 Willie Gay Jr.
 
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badboy

Hall of Fame
I wish they would sign the top FA corner and draft 2 more CB's including a good slot CB. I've got very little faith in LJ after watching him get worked by Kelce.

How would you feel about a draft like this to fix the secondary,

Rd. 2 Arnette
Rd.3 Chinn (I just found out he's Steve Atwater's nephew)
Rd.4 Robertson
Rd.4 Willie Gay Jr
Rd.4 Duvernay

This is a realistic mock IMHO

Or if you want to add much needed speed

Rd.2 Dugger
Rd.3 Reggie Robinson CB Tulsa
Rd.4 Amik Robertson CB La Tech
Rd.4 Willie Gay Jr.
those are good Mocks and I would be okay with either however if we can get Byron Jones I'm not going cornerback until probably around 4. I am not going to let Kelsey dictate whether Lonnie Johnson can play. I would let tashaun gipson handle him that's what we signed him for.
 

steelbtexan

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those are good Mocks and I would be okay with either however if we can get Byron Jones I'm not going cornerback until probably around 4. I am not going to let Kelsey dictate whether Lonnie Johnson can play. I would let tashaun gipson handle him that's what we signed him for.
I want as many CB/S that can cover as possible. I sign a CB in FA and draft a CB plus a S so the DB room will be rebuilt with faster/more athletic players that can cover the Chiefs WR's. Last yrs DB room was slow. Jones is said to be getting 19 mil per yr offers from the Eagles/NYG's. Would you meet that price? I love what Jones brings but he's priced out of the market I would be comfortable being in.
 

banned1976

Fire Bill O’Brien
As my avatar suggests DJ Reader is my favourite Texan, in saying that, knowing we need to pay Tunsil and Watson, letting Reader walks 'makes sense'.

Having a franchise QB not on a rookie contract massively impacts your cap and a franchise LT isn't far behind. Just feel lucky we don't have a premier pass-rushers and corners to pay too
Letting Reader walk will open up another need to address. But that’s the likely scenario.
 

Texansballer74

Hall of Fame
Well we have locked in Fells for another 2 years and Fairbairn for 4 years.



Kicker Ka'imi Fairbairn won’t be going anywhere this offseason.
Fairbairn was on track to become an unrestricted free agent when the new league year opened next week, but Aaron Wilson of the Houston Chronicle reports that he has signed on to extend his time in Houston. It’s a four-year deal with no financial terms known at the moment.
Fairbairn joined the Texans in 2017 and has appeared in every game over the last three seasons. He’s gone 77-of-92 on field goals and 111-of-121 on extra points in the regular season over that span. He’s also 3-of-4 on field goals and 5-of-5 on extra points in the playoffs.
The Fairbairn news comes after word that the team has also struck a deal with tight end Darren Fells that will keep him in Houston for two years.

 
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justmy2cents

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With Darren Fells resigning & Warring on deck, i think that spells the end for 1 of Thomas or Akins.........I'm thinking Akins.

Maybe not ! When asked by the press, why he drafted Aikens so early - when he was rated so low, (or not a all), O'Brien said I don't know, I just sensed something special about him ! He's just a prospect-rating machine .... and I, for one, don't think he gets proper credit for it ! Who's with me ????
 

badboy

Hall of Fame
I think we could see a possible trade one of our tight ends. Either before the draft or more likely after the season begins and players start to fall. A good cover corner like Byron Jones make our front 7 more effective. As for now I would still pay 19 for him I want to see how the recent extensions impact the cap.
 

Mr teX

Hall of Fame
Maybe not ! When asked by the press, why he drafted Aikens so early - when he was rated so low, (or not a all), O'Brien said I don't know, I just sensed something special about him ! He's just a prospect-rating machine .... and I, for one, don't think he gets proper credit for it ! Who's with me ????

Lol, Akins certainly has the athleticism that could make him a dominant pass catching TE, but he hasn't been able to put it together & he's especially terrible as a blocker easily the worst of the 2 we've seen & we don't know how Warring's gonna look.

Having said that was then, this is now & I can't see us packing 4 TE's.
 

CloakNNNdagger

Hall of Fame
I have read numerous sources saying Trent Williams has been linked to us, also the Cardinals and Jets.
Our bookends are set. Tunsil will sign when the time comes. Williams will not switch to another OL position, including RT...........and he will be looking for a "pay day." Put Williams to Texans to sleep..............it began with an article by the Athletic............a rumor entirely concocted out of thin air, a pattern beginning to develop from this source...............
 

justmy2cents

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Our bookends are set. Tunsil will sign when the time comes. Williams will not switch to another OL position, including RT...........and he will be looking for a "pay day." Put Williams to Texans to sleep..............it began with an article by the Athletic............a rumor entirely concocted out of thin air, a pattern beginning to develop from this source...............

How do you feel about our right guard situation?
 

banned1976

Fire Bill O’Brien
Lol, Akins certainly has the athleticism that could make him a dominant pass catching TE, but he hasn't been able to put it together & he's especially terrible as a blocker easily the worst of the 2 we've seen & we don't know how Warring's gonna look.

Having said that was then, this is now & I can't see us packing 4 TE's.
Yep, sure can’t think about getting rid of Warring. He’s their water polo specialist... you know, in case the Texans face a water polo team in the playoffs.
 

OptimisticTexan

Hall of Fame
I'd like to see the Texans get Hyde signed. He did a pretty solid job running behind his OL and with OB calling the plays.

Kelly will call the plays this year, Howard will be back at RT, Tunsil, Scharping and Howard will be entering their 2nd seasons with the Texans, and hopefully the Texans find a RG in the draft......preferrably RG, Bredeson out of Michigan. He's a plug and play today RG who was educated in a pro-style offense ran by Harbaugh. Maybe a pairing of Scharping and Bredeson at the G positions would help cover for the weakest link, Martin.

Just give me a better OL and better game planner.......and I think Hyde and Johnson could be pretty special in the running game.
 

CloakNNNdagger

Hall of Fame
How do you feel about our right guard situation?
We'll be looking for a new one. Meanwhile, Fulton would be better utilized at C. I don't really feel great about Martin at that position to begin with, but he was given a recent extension. Fortunately, the way Martin's 3-year contract was structured, if he does not perform well this year, he will be able to be released in 2021 with little concern.
 

RGV82

Random guy
I'd like to see the Texans get Hyde signed. He did a pretty solid job running behind his OL and with OB calling the plays.

Kelly will call the plays this year, Howard will be back at RT, Tunsil, Scharping and Howard will be entering their 2nd seasons with the Texans, and hopefully the Texans find a RG in the draft......preferrably RG, Bredeson out of Michigan. He's a plug and play today RG who was educated in a pro-style offense ran by Harbaugh. Maybe a pairing of Scharping and Bredeson at the G positions would help cover for the weakest link, Martin.

Just give me a better OL and better game planner.......and I think Hyde and Johnson could be pretty special in the running game.
Personally I don’t think we need to waste a contract on Hyde. Duke plus draft pick(s) and maybe a cheap veteran signing for insurance is all we need.
 


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