badboy
Hall of Fame
In the business, I think Talking Heads Hope they get one out of 10, right and then Hope people ignore the 9 they got wrong. We see this in other aspects of the so-called New Media Besides Sports
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2020 Free Agency
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badboy
Hall of Fame
Good Lord. Why? Ronald Jones got over 700 yards and a 4.2 average and 22 years old still on a rookie contract. TV can get a Johnson type back lower round.
badboy
Hall of Fame
I cannot see that for any of our free agents. . Anyone disagree?
Because Johnson is the perfect fit in Arians offense. He runs one of the best wheel routes in the NFL. He can catch the ball like a WR and is great in pass pro. Jones cant do that.
badboy
Hall of Fame
Perhaps, but Jones did average over 10 yards per catch if I remember correctly. They need a power running back That can take it through the middle. And I don't think Johnson that guy.
badboy
Hall of Fame
He is going to want a healthy last contract for his career. He might get something but based on only one season. I really don't want him unless he's very cheap. he has short arms small hands and I probably have a higher vertical than he does. Best thing he ever did was convinced and Jalen Ramsey to pay him $20,000 for number 22.
badboy
Hall of Fame
badboy
Hall of Fame
It's good to bring up any options for discussion. . I would consider Hill at 2-year contract 3 mil this year and five next year with some incentives. He could replace Joseph as a backup CB.
I heard on 610 today they may franchise Reader.
Not what I would do.
That $$$$ would be a large part of what I would use to sign Jones. I would also sign Suh for the 1 yr 13 mil he got last yr in Tampa.
badboy
Hall of Fame
Yeah on 610 a couple weeks ago McClain said that they were going to bring Reader back. Even if they had to franchise him. That astonished me.
Right. Part of the organization's job, whether it be the owner, GM, or HC is to sell these guys on the team, to get them to stay. Work the money out so it's similar, but don't grossly overpay for talent.
They're building a team, not player careers.
Mangler
Toro de España
I hope they sign Dak to a big contract, lol.
If I had to guess he would probably get a 1 year deal in the 6-8M range as a prove it. To me that’s a great deal for a potential 3-down running back. I also think having a threat in the backfield would help tremendously
CloakNNNdagger
Hall of Fame
Classic example of media "telephone game."
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cameronkrazie86
Rookie
I really, really hope they don't overpay to bring in a free agent running back. Worst case, go with Duke Johnson as your starter. I'd rather they spend almost all of the available money on improving the defense. In a perfect world on offense, I wouldn't mind if they were able to get a quality guard or right tackle at a good price though again, not overpaying.
badboy
Hall of Fame
Just my opinion, but I don't think there's that many quality free agents at any position available this year. So more than likely there will be over payments to bring one in. The good news is if things fall just right we could bring in an Excellent right guard, cornerback and possibly an Edge rusher in FA and take pressure off our draft. Come on March 18th!!
TexansFan15
All Pro
Top 5 moves for FA/offseason before draft:
1) Cut Fulton, Hargreaves (not worth the 9mil due next season), and Kelemete. This would free up over 15 million to sign other FA or extend our own
2) Sign Scherff or Thuney
3) Sign Reader and Roby
4) Extend Tunsil
5) Sign Jones, Harris, or Waynes
1) Cut Fulton, Hargreaves (not worth the 9mil due next season), and Kelemete. This would free up over 15 million to sign other FA or extend our own
2) Sign Scherff or Thuney
3) Sign Reader and Roby
4) Extend Tunsil
5) Sign Jones, Harris, or Waynes
TexansFan15
All Pro
Which FAs would you choose?
In this division where every team wants to run the ball down your throat …. I think a guy like Reader has significant value.
I would prefer to get a long-term deal done , even if it was at market value but I'd tag him if that didn't work out.
Me too …. cause I don't think he's worth it and I like nothing better than watching the Cowpies suck.
welsh texan
You may say I’m a dreamer but I’m not the only one
https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/...n-hargreaves-after-midseason-signing-in-2019/
Vernon Hargreaves cut, freeing $10 million cap space and leaving us with around $60 million to play with.
Ive seen Chris Harris mooted as a potential replacement. At 31 it’s a question of when and not if the drop off comes, but he could give us a good season or two.
Vernon Hargreaves cut, freeing $10 million cap space and leaving us with around $60 million to play with.
Ive seen Chris Harris mooted as a potential replacement. At 31 it’s a question of when and not if the drop off comes, but he could give us a good season or two.
I wouldn't be too mad if they cut the entire secondary after that 51-7 beat down.
(don't take this too seriously)
TexanBorn51
All Pro
CB Darius Clay Detroit Lions are looking to trade. I know nothing of him but he's the best defender they have and 3 time pro bowler. Texans may or may not have good positioning. Also Chris Harris Jr. Broncos. js
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NFL Trade Rumors: Could Houston Trade For Darius Slay?
The Texans do need cornerback help and they have cap space.
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CB Darius Clay Detroit Lions are looking to trade. I know nothing of him but he's the best defender they have and 3 time pro bowler. Texans may or may not have good positioning. Also Chris Harris Jr. Broncos. js
NFL Trade Rumors: Could Houston Trade For Darius Slay?
The Texans do need cornerback help and they have cap space.
I’m just not interested in old corners. Unless they can retain their speed ala Patrick Peterson. If there is a younger, faster CB on the market, that’s the direction the Texans should go.
I wouldn’t mind bringing in Harris for around $8-10m per year. Something around 3/$30. You resign Roby and bring in Harris then you have a nice 1-2-3 with them and Lonnie. But I think OB cares more about measurables than he does actual talent so I bet we end up bringing in a guy like trumaine johnson who’s big but can’t play
Mr teX
Hall of Fame
As horrible as it was, I rewatched the KC game...at least the 1st half anyway & it wasn't as bad as it appeared at the time; people gotta stop overreacting to what happened in that game. Don't get me wrong, it was an abomination, but you gotta remember, KC is the best offense in the league & they largely picked on 1 guy in that game, a rookie in Lonnie Johnson Jr. We were also down a guy that likely would've been helping LJ over the top alot in Gipson.
I say all that to say, you'd have a nice 1-2-3-4 with Roby, Conley, Lonnie and Harris if you were to bring him in...Add in a FA pass rusher & the defense could be much improved in 2020.
Plus, draft another CB high and a safety too. (I like Dugger alot and he should be there in the 2nd rd.) The secondary would be much improved.
Byron Jones?
CloakNNNdagger
Hall of Fame
CB Darius Clay Detroit Lions are looking to trade. I know nothing of him but he's the best defender they have and 3 time pro bowler. Texans may or may not have good positioning. Also Chris Harris Jr. Broncos. js
NFL Trade Rumors: Could Houston Trade For Darius Slay?
The Texans do need cornerback help and they have cap space.
Darius Slay implied he wants to be the highest-paid cornerback in football.
Responding to a Sports Illustrated article that discussed what Slay might earn on an extension, the 29-year-old tweeted back, "Y'all numbers too low." Coming off his third straight Pro Bowl appearance, Slay is undoubtedly due for a big raise and seems likely to eclipse Xavien Howard's $15.1 million salary as the top earner at his position. Slay was a no-show for voluntary OTAs last offseason and could hold out again if his contract demands aren't met. He's due a $10 million base salary in 2020, the final year of his current contract.
SOURCE: Darius Slay on Twitter
Feb 10, 2020, 8:36 AM ET
Be aware that Slay also missed games last season due to hamstring problems which actually plagued him since week 3 through most of the season.
CB Darius Clay Detroit Lions are looking to trade. I know nothing of him but he's the best defender they have and 3 time pro bowler. Texans may or may not have good positioning. Also Chris Harris Jr. Broncos. js
NFL Trade Rumors: Could Houston Trade For Darius Slay?
The Texans do need cornerback help and they have cap space.
Hard pass.
No the KC game came down to poor coaching. I’ll quote King OB “it starts at the top it starts with me.” Yep, all his asinine play calling coupled with the fact that Romeo can’t adjust mid game or put his guys in a position to make a play. That being said, I do agree that group would be nice. You are giving up a little bit in length but if weaver wants to run a press man scheme then those would be the guys to do it with. It will be interesting to see what his philosophy and approach will be on defense and what will stay and go from crennel. My guess is it’s mostly the same scheme with some tweaks.
Mr teX
Hall of Fame
You guys are so transparent. Would be interesting to see how Much you guys would read into BoB’s statements or how literal Ya’ll would take them if he approached his press conferences like Bill Parcells/Tom Coughlin and lobbed the criticism at the players instead of taking all the heat for his players like be routinely does.
If he lobbed criticism in his post game presser at DW4 for missing those wide open deep throws in the Carolina game...or those horrible picks in the Tennessee game, u guys wouldn’t be trying to hear it even though it’d be the truth, ya’ll would still be on the **** ya’ll are on now.
That was a total team meltdown.
The defense wasn't as bad as it looked, they didn't have anybody to cover Kelce since Gipson/Addae were hurt. I'm excited about Weaver (Not sure why) and hope he gets the talent he needs to be successful.
Slay? Harris? Or both?
Texansballer74
The Marine
The Texans have signed Brandon Dunn to a contrast extension.
Texansballer74
The Marine
3 yrs 12 mil.
Looks like Reader will be moving on, I cant imagine BOB spending 16 mil on the NT position. I would rather have Suh/Dunn/Draft pick than Reader.
ATXtexanfan
Hall of Fame
Why resign Dunn?
Speedy
Former Yeller Dweller
When a team changes coordinators, doesn't that coordinator usually bring in his own scheme? That doesn't seem to be the case with the Texans. It always seems to be the same with maybe some tweaks. On the offensive side it sure hasn't mattered if it's OB, Godsey or Kelly. I don't remember Vrabel's scheme being much different, just hit with a bunch of injuries, and here we go promoting from within again, where the DC is going to be under that umbrella.
The structure of this organization just doesn't make a whole lot of sense.
Oh, it makes sense. You just dont like what's being done.
BTW, I agree with you, BOB should've atleast interviewed potential DC's from other teams even if he didn't intend on hiring them. He might have learned some new ideas in those interviews. It never hurts to learn new things.
Rich Schmidt
Myopicone
Weaver will bring in some Rex Ryan schemes, that is his man more than RAC. I don't think Kubiak or BOB fingerprint the defense that much, so yes, I expect more aggression. Thus I expect some man to man cover CB activity in the offseason. Roby or some free agent like Harris in Denver. Lonnie needs to grow up and get better. Conley serviceable. Need some heat via impact players and scheme though or defense will get torched again
Dunn coming in will not preclude Reader. Texans seem to have a value they are willing to pay and will pay their type of guys, Reader is one. I think he can price himself out, but I think we get him back
badboy
Hall of Fame
He's your nose tackle 2020. People don't realize or forget Reader played a lot at DT/DE & he wants DE $.
Personally I wouldn’t give two shits if he went to the podium and shot Cheerios out of his ass. I really don’t care about what he does or doesn’t say so that’s not my issue with him. In fact, I actually prefer him to keep close vested rather than be an open book as you’ve suggested.
I have a problem with him being a bad coach. I have a bigger problem with him having full control of how this team is run from every personnel decision down to who is boss is.
Anthony weaver from what I read and have heard has the potential to be a great DC, but with Romeo getting a “promotion” who’s to say that anything would actually change instead of who is the fall guy/yes man. In my opinion, we could bring in the best and brightest football minds and at the end of the day OB will have the final word
Usually, yes. In our case, doubtful. I don’t see anyone coming in and making changes. It’s the same reason Tim Kelly got promoted to OC. Ppl act like he was a great candidate and try to spin it to make themselves feel better but the fact of the matter is he has no business running an NFL offense. His playing career was a D2 defensive lineman and his coaching career was on that side of the ball too. I mean I wouldn’t go to Andre Johnson and ask him to coach linebackes. It’s pop Warner bullshit and it’s just a fall guy/yes man.
In my opinion I don’t see much changing under weaver. RAC is going to be behind the scenes implementing the same scheme and weaver will simply be another puppet with a title in this organization. He’ll leave after the year and probably will flourish with another team that doesn’t want to micromanage every aspect of its organization
Those kinds of meltdowns don’t happen to well coaches football teams. There wasn’t any adjustments made on either side of the ball and critical decisions that could’ve put a nail in the coffin tipped the momentum to their side and gave them enough life to ignite a comeback
I agree with you they should've al been fired for 51-7. But it's also time to put blame on the players too. You or I could've been coaching and 51-7 should've never happened if the players had pride. Instead they gave up, which is why I would've fired BOB after 51-7. Never give up and bring in new players that would never allow 51-7 because of their pride.