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2025 Draft Prospects

Connelly, in a way I hope Caserio drafts him just to see the MB's reaction to his soft play. I wouldn't spend the draft capital to move up to draft Simmons, after seeing how Howard's performed after the same injury, I would pass.
I’m not particularly high on Conerly. I’ve seen him get stood up multiple times when engaged. In the NFL, with bigger and stronger players, I can see him getting pushed around. While he does show good foot movement (I saw he played running back in high school, which explains his athleticism), I'd pass.
 
I agree that I haven’t seen that description of him either. The most often complaint I’ve seen is the need to improve his play strength (which most rookies do).
He certainly didn't look good in the Sr. Bowl or the practices. Maybe I'm wrong, Conerly reminds me a lot of Bahktiari coming out of college. I didn't think a relatively skinny guy could make it in the NFL. I was wrong on Bahktiari and there's a chance I'm wrong on Conerly. But I wouldn't bet Stroud's health on Conerly improving. I would make that bet on Banks.
 
For what it’s worth….Dont’e Thornton Jr compared himself to Nico Collins during the Tennessee Pro Day. Both are 6’-5” and 200+ pounds, but one of the differences….Thornton’s 4.30-40 take the top off defenses speed. PFN and most sites have him ranked way too far back. If the Texans want his size and speed at the WR2 spot, Caserio should be prepared to get him in RD3 or trade up in RD3 if need be.
 
For what it’s worth….Dont’e Thornton Jr compared himself to Nico Collins during the Tennessee Pro Day. Both are 6’-5” and 200+ pounds, but one of the differences….Thornton’s 4.30-40 take the top off defenses speed. PFN and most sites have him ranked way too far back. If the Texans want his size and speed at the WR2 spot, Caserio should be prepared to get him in RD3 or trade up in RD3 if need be.
His production doesn't jump off the charts but his avg per catch does. Is he a good route runner, is his tree limited? Does he play at different speeds? He may be a one trick pony. Skill players coming from Josh Heupel's offense seem to have some bias against them but it may be warranted.
 
My biggest concern is Connerly struggles to anchor against pass rushers, sometimes this can be compensated for with technique or adding weight/play strength and sometimes it can't. If we going for a round 1 OT I'd prefer paying the price and getting Membou or Banks over rolling the dice.
 
His production doesn't jump off the charts but his avg per catch does. Is he a good route runner, is his tree limited? Does he play at different speeds? He may be a one trick pony. Skill players coming from Josh Heupel's offense seem to have some bias against them but it may be warranted.
Very talented guy that runs a limited route tree, but has some of the best athleticism of any WR in this class. I would love to see McDaniels get a chance to work with this guy, he could become Nico II.
 
Very talented guy that runs a limited route tree, but has some of the best athleticism of any WR in this class. I would love to see McDaniels get a chance to work with this guy, he could become Nico II.

An AI Overview offered the information below, but I offer this caveat; First, Thornton's physical attributes and speed for the position stand out. Second, everything in this assessment can be coached up. Three, I'm going with the attributes and would leave the coaching and mentoring to the coaches and players. Four, with Nico out wide and the veterans in the Slot....Thornton's (WR2) job would be to take defenders downfield while pulling the FS over to help. This would give Nico, the Slots, and TE's a better opportunity to find their openings.


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Dont'e Thornton Jr., a wide receiver from Tennessee, is known for his speed and physicality, but his route-running needs refinement to become a consistent threat at the next level.

Here's a breakdown of his route-running strengths and areas for improvement:

Strengths:
  • Physicality:
    Thornton shows an ability to beat man coverage and uses his physicality to his advantage on routes.
  • Downfield Threat:
    He's a natural deep threat, with good ball tracking and hand-eye coordination.
  • Intention and Head Usage:
    He demonstrates good intention and head usage to create separation, recognizing defensive leverage to alter his route path.
  • Smooth Route Running:
    Thornton runs routes smoothly at 6-foot-5, but his route tree isn't as developed as it needs to be.

Areas for Improvement:
  • Route Tree Development: While he has the potential, his route tree needs further development and refinement.
  • Consistency in Deceleration: He needs to improve the consistency of his deceleration to create separation on an every-down basis.
  • Nuanced Movements: He needs to hone his nuanced movements and timing at the catch point.
  • Limited Experience: Thornton needs experience, as he played only 534 passing snaps in college.
  • Yards After Catch (YAC): While he has the ability to make big plays, he wasn't asked to be a YAC threat much for Tennessee.
 
An AI Overview offered the information below, but I offer this caveat; First, Thornton's physical attributes and speed for the position stand out. Second, everything in this assessment can be coached up. Three, I'm going with the attributes and would leave the coaching and mentoring to the coaches and players. Four, with Nico out wide and the veterans in the Slot....Thornton's (WR2) job would be to take defenders downfield while pulling the FS over to help. This would give Nico, the Slots, and TE's a better opportunity to find their openings.


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Dont'e Thornton Jr., a wide receiver from Tennessee, is known for his speed and physicality, but his route-running needs refinement to become a consistent threat at the next level.

Here's a breakdown of his route-running strengths and areas for improvement:

Strengths:
  • Physicality:
    Thornton shows an ability to beat man coverage and uses his physicality to his advantage on routes.
  • Downfield Threat:
    He's a natural deep threat, with good ball tracking and hand-eye coordination.
  • Intention and Head Usage:
    He demonstrates good intention and head usage to create separation, recognizing defensive leverage to alter his route path.
  • Smooth Route Running:
    Thornton runs routes smoothly at 6-foot-5, but his route tree isn't as developed as it needs to be.

Areas for Improvement:
  • Route Tree Development: While he has the potential, his route tree needs further development and refinement.
  • Consistency in Deceleration: He needs to improve the consistency of his deceleration to create separation on an every-down basis.
  • Nuanced Movements: He needs to hone his nuanced movements and timing at the catch point.
  • Limited Experience: Thornton needs experience, as he played only 534 passing snaps in college.
  • Yards After Catch (YAC): While he has the ability to make big plays, he wasn't asked to be a YAC threat much for Tennessee.
Seems like the type of guy that McDaniels could turn into something a couple of yrs down the road.
 
He certainly didn't look good in the Sr. Bowl or the practices. Maybe I'm wrong, Conerly reminds me a lot of Bahktiari coming out of college. I didn't think a relatively skinny guy could make it in the NFL. I was wrong on Bahktiari and there's a chance I'm wrong on Conerly. But I wouldn't bet Stroud's health on Conerly improving. I would make that bet on Banks.
Conerly had one really bad rep against Mike Green, but I think the rest of senior bowl practices he was decent.
 
He certainly didn't look good in the Sr. Bowl or the practices. Maybe I'm wrong, Conerly reminds me a lot of Bahktiari coming out of college. I didn't think a relatively skinny guy could make it in the NFL. I was wrong on Bahktiari and there's a chance I'm wrong on Conerly. But I wouldn't bet Stroud's health on Conerly improving. I would make that bet on Banks.
Didn't look good in Senior Bowl? Huh.https://www.si.com/college/oregon/football/oregon-ducks-josh-conerly-jr-nfl-draft-senior-bowl-performance-combine-projection-scouting-report-grade-big-ten-offensive-tackle
Yeah he was knocked on his butt by Mike Green (a pretty good player himself) and then Conerly neutralized Green on a subsequent play. Sounds like someone is focusing on Highlights only.

Duane Brown combine 6' 4 314
Laremy Tunsil combine 6'5 310
Josh Conerly combine 6'5 311

Don't let facts get in the way.

Eval:https://www.profootballnetwork.com/josh-conerly-jr-scouting-report-nfl-draft-2025/

All I have seen evaluate him the same.
 
Didn't look good in Senior Bowl? Huh.https://www.si.com/college/oregon/football/oregon-ducks-josh-conerly-jr-nfl-draft-senior-bowl-performance-combine-projection-scouting-report-grade-big-ten-offensive-tackle
Yeah he was knocked on his butt by Mike Green (a pretty good player himself) and then Conerly neutralized Green on a subsequent play. Sounds like someone is focusing on Highlights only.

Duane Brown combine 6' 4 314
Laremy Tunsil combine 6'5 310
Josh Conerly combine 6'5 311

Don't let facts get in the way.

Eval:https://www.profootballnetwork.com/josh-conerly-jr-scouting-report-nfl-draft-2025/

All I have seen evaluate him the same.
I'm not judging a guy from that one play. I'm judging the guy from his ability to move guys in the run game as well as pass protect. He's a good pass protector who should improve once he gains strength. His run blocking is well below avg and with the criticisms of Tunsil's run blocking posters are really not going to like Conerly's run blocking. I evaluate differently than the draftniks.
 
I'm not judging a guy from that one play. I'm judging the guy from his ability to move guys in the run game as well as pass protect. He's a good pass protector who should improve once he gains strength. His run blocking is well below avg and with the criticisms of Tunsil's run blocking posters are really not going to like Conerly's run blocking. I evaluate differently than the draftniks.
As you often have said for several years about our now departed left tackle, the main purpose of The Blind Side tackle is to protect the quarterback in passing downs. Conerly does that extremely well. Run blocking however he approaches for now with hand punch and grip strength to direct his opponent where he needs to go. His quick feet also get him out of his stance and into his opponent on run plays. Of course,he needs to continue to get stronger and better and fortunately has done so each year. People are quick to point out Mike Green knocking him on his butt in the senior bowl. However few mentioned that in an actual game scenario, Conerly handled Abdul Carter who is considered a top five pick and above Green masterfully.
 
I'm not sure Banks goes that high (all Texas school guys get a significant bump around these parts), but I would bet on Will Campbell sliding some and I'd be all for trading up for him.

I've got Membou as the first OT off the board
I think Campbell will fall too and if he does I'd be interested in trading up for him. Prefer Membou but think he'll be too far out of range for a trade.
 
Give me WR- Jayden Higgins (Iowa State / 6-4 @ 214 lbs - 4.47-40) and WR- Dont’e Thornton Jr (Tennessee / 6-5 @ 207 lbs - 4.30-40) in the draft and that would prop up the receiver room and make it one of the most dangerous units in the NFL.

Both of these receivers should be there at 58 and then 166 at the latest.
 
Elic Ayomanor is being vastly underrated by draftniks. Had he played at Alabama or Ohio State, Ayomanor would be considered a 1st rounder.

Agreed.

My impression of him is that hes very well rounded. Can get separation but also can make tough contested catches. Good size and good athlete. I like him better than some of the guys projected ahead of him.
 
Agreed.

My impression of him is that hes very well rounded. Can get separation but also can make tough contested catches. Good size and good athlete. I like him better than some of the guys projected ahead of him.
Looks, moves, and makes plays like a NFL WR. Passes the eye test. Also will block, which I think will be important to this offense.
 
Agreed.

My impression of him is that hes very well rounded. Can get separation but also can make tough contested catches. Good size and good athlete. I like him better than some of the guys projected ahead of him.
It's hard to evaluate him because of the crappy QB play at Stanford.
 
Someone fill me in- why am I seeing Luther Burden III as possibly being eligible when the Texans pick? In my limited viewings of college football ball this year, he’s the best receiver in the class, and it’s not particularly close.
 
Someone fill me in- why am I seeing Luther Burden III as possibly being eligible when the Texans pick? In my limited viewings of college football ball this year, he’s the best receiver in the class, and it’s not particularly close.
Burden is more of a gadget player, right. Does he run a full route tree? The majority of his routes are inside 10 yards. He'll need a lot of development.

I think Burden's ceiling could be Aman-Ra St. Brown, once he transforms into a real WR. His floor could be Jalen Reagor, whose athleticism was wasted due to never developing as a pro receiver.
 
I just mentioned Kyle Williams in another thread in a chat with SteelB. I’m still somewhat new to this kid but he is growing on me, based on what I hear and see.

I’m coming around to the idea that they wait on a WR until day 2. Noel or Kyle Williams are two top targets on my list. Noel has been for a while, but Williams is a fast riser for me.

As far as round one, I feel it’s pretty wide open but if I had to guess…I think they go o-line, and if I had to choose a target the Texans want to prioritize, I think it is Booker from Alabama. I think this guy reeks swarm and can help reset the line culture. He is also an Alabama alum. He becomes the Will Anderson of the o-line like his fellow Alabama alum Will Anderson. The fact that he didn’t blow them away on Indy…only makes it more likely that he will be there at 25. I think he is everything Ryans wants. If they don’t move up/down…and Booker is there…he is their man. IMHO.
 
Cody Stoots on WR vs OL:


1st rounder on our team has to start day 1. Playmaker!

As many witnessed last season.....weapons have a hard time being utilized if there's no time to get them the ball.

At 25 the scenario I've been running into fairly consistently is both WR- Emeka Egbuka and OG/OT- Donovan Jackson being on the board. I like both of them, but I feel like I can get a receiver later that could be equally as productive. As for Jackson, he answers a glaring need on the OL. He's been a star at LG (1,963 snaps) for the Buckeyes since taking over as starter in 2022. This past Championship season, he had to take over at LT for Josh Simmons in WK7....Buckeyes obviously didn't miss a beat. I believe, if the competition is open....Jackson starts the season as the Texans LG.
 
As many witnessed last season.....weapons have a hard time being utilized if there's no time to get them the ball.

At 25 the scenario I've been running into fairly consistently is both WR- Emeka Egbuka and OG/OT- Donovan Jackson being on the board. I like both of them, but I feel like I can get a receiver later that could be equally as productive. As for Jackson, he answers a glaring need on the OL. He's been a star at LG (1,963 snaps) for the Buckeyes since taking over as starter in 2022. This past Championship season, he had to take over at LT for Josh Simmons in WK7....Buckeyes obviously didn't miss a beat. I believe, if the competition is open....Jackson starts the season as the Texans LG.
Eh.. Nico over 1000 and Tank ~ 700. I do agree that the offensive line could be better but the two receivers did really well. Left Tackle maybe less this season but left guard should be a whole lot better so kind of cancel each other out.
Howard is the left guard so why use 25? Scruggs is getting his shot at starting on the right side whether we think he should or not. I think Nick has set up the draft where he does not have to get a offensive lineman in day one. Why not get a wide receiver that almost everyone thinks is a huge playmaker with a high ceiling and low floor who could be another Thomas from 2024?
 
Eh.. Nico over 1000 and Tank ~ 700. I do agree that the offensive line could be better but the two receivers did really well. Left Tackle maybe less this season but left guard should be a whole lot better so kind of cancel each other out.
Howard is the left guard so why use 25? Scruggs is getting his shot at starting on the right side whether we think he should or not. I think Nick has set up the draft where he does not have to get a offensive lineman in day one. Why not get a wide receiver that almost everyone thinks is a huge playmaker with a high ceiling and low floor who could be another Thomas from 2024?
I like Egbuka but he lacks the special traits/ceiling Brian Thomas had. I’d compare him more to McConkey and think he’ll be drafted in that range.
 
Because they brought Golden in? As @calishung7717 pointed out, the Texans only drafted one player from the 2024 top 30 visits.
That’s just one way to get info on a player. Kamari and Stover both visited at the combine.

Bullock and Jamal Hill were both top 30 visits.

Then there’s any number of ways they could have researched a player that wasn’t reported:


Bottom line: I use the visit lists to get a read on what position groups they are targeting. Then I make my best guess on who fits based on my knowledge of the coaches/River Boat Nick.
 
Because they brought Golden in? As @calishung7717 pointed out, the Texans only drafted one player from the 2024 top 30 visits.
No, simply because it looks like they are going with the offensive line as is. That makes the wide receiver position the next dire need position to be filled. And Golden is probably the second best wide receiver if not the best in the draft.
 
That makes the wide receiver position the next dire need position to be filled. And Golden is probably the second best wide receiver if not the best in the draft.
I'm fairly certain the Texans will draft a WR. And Golden is a good WR prospect. He might be the #1 WR prospect on a team's board. He might be much lower on another. Depends on what each team is looking for in a WR.
 
Again, this is a message board where we discuss proposed personal ideas regarding the team, free agency, draft, cap space, etc.

Since none of us are Texans executives (as far as we know…haha) we’d be fools to argue over who’s 100% right in what the Texans would be doing.

The off season permits fans to enter that wonderful, “The Great Arm Chair (Team Owner, GM, HC, QB, Etc) Debate.
 
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