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sprtsfanatic said:
Now that is a statement that holds true regarding WA JR. Not sure about training room and all the other things you listed...i dont think any of that becomes restricted until TC if you are not signed.
But as far as Anderson goes that was the MO and reports on him coming out of college...but I dont think you can say that b/c WA Jr. has signed that it makes CJ a bad person, or not committed or anything negative...they play two different positions (one being the most important on a FB team) and so obviously contracts and verbage will be different and negotiated differently.

Now if TC comes around and he hasnt signed for some reason...then I'll be po'ed and start questioning him or his agent or whatever is causing the hold up....franchise included.
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I wasn't making my comment about anyone other than Anderson and what it says about the motivation to sign so early. If I was in the media, I'd certainly be curious about the story behind this decision.
 
thunderkyss said:
I agree with everyone who says it's no big deal that Stroud is not signed.

It's not.

It will be an issue if he's not signed by training camp.

He has also not been named the starter yet. Not a big deal in & of itself. But it could be, I'm not saying it is, related to the issue around why he isn't signed.

He may be waiting for Anthony Richardson to sign... which makes sense.
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100% agree. IMHO, all three QBs are waiting to see who blinks first and signs. That signing will affect the other 2, slotted contracts or not.
 
thunderkyss said:
I agree with everyone who says it's no big deal that Stroud is not signed.

It's not.

It will be an issue if he's not signed by training camp.

He has also not been named the starter yet. Not a big deal in & of itself. But it could be, I'm not saying it is, related to the issue around why he isn't signed.

He may be waiting for Anthony Richardson to sign... which makes sense.
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There's a troubling rumor on the Ohio State boards that CJ is going to walk away from football and fulfill his lifelong dream of competing in ice curling.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1680703044328071169
 
DocBar said:
100% agree. IMHO, all three QBs are waiting to see who blinks first and signs. That signing will affect the other 2, slotted contracts or not.
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CBS Sports made an estimate for the Stroud slot:

2023 Salary Cap Number: $6,596,226
Signing Bonus: $23,384,904
4-Year Total: $36,279,243

The biggest discussion for Stroud's rookie contract in my estimation, may be the desire for a bigger signing bonus.
 
Regarding Ewers, I don't have anything I read in an article or something that has been reported.
I think it's a collection of things. I don't think he got good information in deciding to skip his senior high school season.
I think he chased after NIL money and gave up a lot in the process. Then I think he thought higher of himself regarding his place in the pecking order at Ohio State. When the competition ramped up, he folded and thought something was going to be handed to him. Then he went back to Texas.

My thoughts, come from my interactions and dealings at Ohio State.

Then there are the reports he was just homesick. I honestly don't doubt that. I joined the Army at 19 and was overseas in a flash. I missed home too. I really wish him the best and hope he does well at Texas. It's hard being that young and making big decisions in life. Harder when you apparently don't have smart people around you to guide your way at times.
 
In looking at why Stroud hasn't signed, I say take a breath. There's not really a reason to be concerned about this.
This is what the #2 overall salary has looked like over the previous three years:

2020: DE, Chase Young- 4 years, $34,563,594
2021: QB, Zach Wilson- 4 years, $35,150,681
2022: DE Aiden Hutchinson- 4 years, $35,713,386

They are all 4 year deals, the full amount is guaranteed, and the signing bonuses increased about the same from year to year as well. I have seen however, there are discussions over when the signing bonus has been paid out. Previously, you had guys like Lawrence and Walker from the Jags who got all of their signing bonuses within 2-3 weeks of signing, where others have been broken into installments. Then you also have how it is broken down into roster bonuses for each year and other ways the teams make the contract work within the cap.

In my best Leslie Nielsen from Naked Gun... "Nothing to see here, please disperse".
 
ArmyBengal said:
Regarding Ewers, I don't have anything I read in an article or something that has been reported.
I think it's a collection of things. I don't think he got good information in deciding to skip his senior high school season.
I think he chased after NIL money and gave up a lot in the process. Then I think he thought higher of himself regarding his place in the pecking order at Ohio State. When the competition ramped up, he folded and thought something was going to be handed to him. Then he went back to Texas.

My thoughts, come from my interactions and dealings at Ohio State.

Then there are the reports he was just homesick. I honestly don't doubt that. I joined the Army at 19 and was overseas in a flash. I missed home too. I really wish him the best and hope he does well at Texas. It's hard being that young and making big decisions in life. Harder when you apparently don't have smart people around you to guide your way at times.
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Is grabbing the NIL money a bad decision?

None of this will matter if Ewers has the year Horns fans like myself hopes he has. He certainly has the talent to be a top QB.
 
steelbtexan said:
Is grabbing the NIL money a bad decision?

None of this will matter if Ewers has the year Horns fans like myself hopes he has. He certainly has the talent to be a top QB.
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In and of itself, I don't think going after money via NIL is a bad decision. Going after that money and in turn giving up your senior year of high school, thinking way higher of yourself than others do, thinking you were going to be handed something you weren't, not being willing to compete and then tucking tail and going home? I think all of that is a bad decision which was all predicated on him being the first ever athlete to cash in on the NIL money. I think the money is what drove him and those giving him advice. No, I don't think that's wise at all.

Again, I don't blame him, think poorly of him, or wish him ill. Just the opposite. I feel bad for him losing out of his senior year of high school, moving across the country, not getting a shot to do what he thought he would and then going out the way he did. I hope what was truly at the root was him simply missing home and that he thrives in Texas. I like the Longhorns and would never wish them ill either.

That being said, he's a wait and see for me, not something to be considered a top end prospect.
He's done very little to be considered anything resembling an NFL QB at this point.
 
steelbtexan said:
Hopefully he can become more consistent. He's 20 yrs old and still hasn't played a full season of college football.
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Yes agree 100%. Yet, you can find early mock drafts calling for him to be a first round pick next year.
There's literally nothing to base that on outside of him being a 5 star recruit out of high school and less than a full season of college football.
 
ArmyBengal said:
In and of itself, I don't think going after money via NIL is a bad decision. Going after that money and in turn giving up your senior year of high school, thinking way higher of yourself than others do, thinking you were going to be handed something you weren't, not being willing to compete and then tucking tail and going home? I think all of that is a bad decision which was all predicated on him being the first ever athlete to cash in on the NIL money. I think the money is what drove him and those giving him advice. No, I don't think that's wise at all.

Again, I don't blame him, think poorly of him, or wish him ill. Just the opposite. I feel bad for him losing out of his senior year of high school, moving across the country, not getting a shot to do what he thought he would and then going out the way he did. I hope what was truly at the root was him simply missing home and that he thrives in Texas. I like the Longhorns and would never wish them ill either.

That being said, he's a wait and see for me, not something to be considered a top end prospect.
He's done very little to be considered anything resembling an NFL QB at this point.
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He trad d in his senior year of he for a large sum of money. Can't blame him. If he performs well he will be a high draft pick and it won't matter career wise.

Ewers moving on meant he got to double dip on the NIL money, another smart move. Rumor has it UT alumni paid Ewers a million dollars to sign with them. I would say Ewers has played the system like a fiddle. Maybe he was homesick, more likely he was chasing the money.
 
ArmyBengal said:
In and of itself, I don't think going after money via NIL is a bad decision. Going after that money and in turn giving up your senior year of high school, thinking way higher of yourself than others do, thinking you were going to be handed something you weren't, not being willing to compete and then tucking tail and going home? I think all of that is a bad decision which was all predicated on him being the first ever athlete to cash in on the NIL money. I think the money is what drove him and those giving him advice. No, I don't think that's wise at all.

Again, I don't blame him, think poorly of him, or wish him ill. Just the opposite. I feel bad for him losing out of his senior year of high school, moving across the country, not getting a shot to do what he thought he would and then going out the way he did. I hope what was truly at the root was him simply missing home and that he thrives in Texas. I like the Longhorns and would never wish them ill either.

That being said, he's a wait and see for me, not something to be considered a top end prospect.
He's done very little to be considered anything resembling an NFL QB at this point.
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Curious, isn't everything after NIL $ just the way you see things? I Do not recall seeing many articles about those type of issues with Ewers.
 
Ewers may not even be the best QB on the Longhorns team this season.....no I'm not talking about Arch Manning either. Actually, 6-5 / 236 lb Freshman, Maalik Murphy could be the best QB on the Texas team. Some folks were expecting him to hit the transfer portal, but he chose to remain as the Longhorns QB2. He seems to be looking forward to competing with Manning next season.

Murphy just may be the Longhorns QB to keep an eye out for in 2024 or 2025.

Manning could always hit the transfer portal next season and sign with the Cougars where he'd have a much better chance at overall success in the BIG 12.
 
OptimisticTexan said:
Ewers may not even be the best QB on the Longhorns team this season.....no I'm not talking about Arch Manning either. Actually, 6-5 / 236 lb Freshman, Maalik Murphy could be the best QB on the Texas team. Some folks were expecting him to hit the transfer portal, but he chose to remain as the Longhorns QB2. He seems to be looking forward to competing with Manning next season.

Murphy just may be the Longhorns QB to keep an eye out for in 2024 or 2025.

Manning could always hit the transfer portal next season and sign with the Cougars where he'd have a much better chance at overall success in the BIG 12.
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Lol, if Arch Manning hits the transfer portal it won't be the big 12 or Houston. He'll have bigger offers at bigger conferences if he has to move on which is unlikely.
 
steelbtexan said:
He traded in his senior year of he for a large sum of money. Can't blame him. If he performs well he will be a high draft pick and it won't matter career wise.

Ewers moving on meant he got to double dip on the NIL money, another smart move. Rumor has it UT alumni paid Ewers a million dollars to sign with them. I would say Ewers has played the system like a fiddle. Maybe he was homesick, more likely he was chasing the money.
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That's where some (certainly me) will agree to disagree. I would not have given the advice to my son that he should leave high school his senior season to chase money in a place far from home and no guarantees. Circumstances certainly come into play. I don't know his family background, financial standing or any of that. Maybe they come from a dirt poor community and he's trying to pull his family out of poverty. Then that's another discussion. However, that's about the only situation I would consider.

Sounds like he and those around him are only focused on money. After my years of living and moving up and down the financial ladder of life, I hold firm on the thought of, "Not all money is good money". If someone has the thought that money is what will solve all life's problems, I wish them nothing but luck in chasing that, but to what end?
 
badboy said:
Curious, isn't everything after NIL $ just the way you see things? I Do not recall seeing many articles about those type of issues with Ewers.
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Some absolutely, and I alluded to that thought. I stated there was nothing ever written about that. However, my interactions have led me to cross paths with people that have a better perspective on this than some college team beat writer that likes to discuss how home sick Ewers was. No matter what though, people's personal thoughts and perspectives always play a part in how things are viewed. Again, nothing but luck to Ewers and the Longhorns.
 
Tunsil has been talking up Stroud big time, referring to him as the Dog. Now it's been pointed out that he labeled Mills as the Dog last year. Obviously he is guided to promote the Texans' line, whatever that might be at the time. 🤔
 
Texansballer74 said:
There’s all types of dogs.

He also said CJ was a leader. Didn’t say that about Mills’s.
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