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Read an article this morning that stated the NFL may have leaked the information that they would seek a 1 year suspension in the event the punishment comes in at 10 games. Goodell will state that they are disappointed with the decision and had sought a bigger suspension......allowing the NFL to save face. Wouldn't put it past Goodell and the NFL to do something like this.
 
All I can think is "Cleveland is so STUPID!". It's like all through the years every time I was convinced that the Texans were the dumbest franchise in football along came the Browns (and the Jaguars from time to time just to break up the monotony) to seize the crown. Even the Raiders were smart enough to stay away from Watson!
 
Hate is such a strong word ... I have no hate for Jilly. I just see this situation for what it is.

What woman would tolerate Watson's behavior .... 60something times.
You have a bunch a women like this. You have married women that would get down with these athletes. You have a lot of these chicks that would sleep with married men and have their kids to call them uncle Ray Ray. This crap been going on for ages.
 
Can’t he re-work the following year’s pay as well? Just like he did for this year?
At some point the Browns are going to want to cut their losses and probably won't be so open to redoing his contract. NFL may twist their arm as well. He's done nothing but put the Browns in the news in a bad way since he got there, I'm sure their shiny new toy is losing it's luster.
 
Cleveland’s Cold, Regrettable Bet on Deshaun Watson
Fury continues as the NFL pushes for an indefinite suspension for the new Browns quarterback
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Would they do it again?
In March, the Cleveland Browns made a brash maneuver—trading a package including three first-round picks to the Houston Texans for the legally embattled quarterback Deshaun Watson, and awarding Watson a fresh, mega contract.

It was a franchise-altering “football decision.” And, it seems obvious, a franchise-altering mistake.

At the time of the deal, a Texas grand jury had just declined to indict Watson, who had been accused by dozens of women of sexual misconduct or other inappropriate behavior during massage therapy sessions. While a second grand jury would later do the same, a sea of civil lawsuits lingered.
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What really stood out to me from your link:
Michael Dylan Brennan, the mayor of University Heights, has been a devoted Browns fan since his childhood in Geneva. (Favorite memory: the 1994 win against the Patriots, earning the team a playoff berth.)
This fall, he will spend his Sundays raking leaves and attending pumpkin festivals. “Deshaun Watson is either a predator or a creep,” he said. “Probably both. I can’t root for that guy. And if you can’t root for the quarterback, you can’t root for the team.”
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But according to Dianna Taylor, the director of John Carroll University’s Gender, Sexuality, and Women’s Studies Program and author of “Sexual Violence and Humiliation,” women who experience sexual violation are not socially conditioned to fight back against threats, given normative gender constructions.
Rather, she said, they are primed to be polite or to engage in self-protective internal dialogue, like, “This can’t be happening to me.”
“In the moment when a sexual violation occurs, most victims freeze,” said Taylor, who introduced the Watson scenario into spring semester lectures that addressed the denial of sexual autonomy and bodily integrity.
“Compound this ambivalence with the power imbalance between the person who has hired services and the person providing them, and the fact that Watson is a sports celebrity, it seems pretty clear that expecting someone in the position of the massage therapists to just stop Watson is at best unrealistic and at worst victim-blaming.”
 
I rarely listen to sports radio talk but Wednesday on a short drive home I turned on 610. There were approximately five women voicing their opinion and iirc all thought these women either were after money or had the opportunity to walk out without further activity. Talking head John Lopez cut two of them off and made negative comments about all five's position as if he could not understand what they were saying.
 
I rarely listen to sports radio talk but Wednesday on a short drive home I turned on 610. There were approximately five women voicing their opinion and iirc all thought these women either were after money or had the opportunity to walk out without further activity. Talking head John Lopez cut two of them off and made negative comments about all five's position as if he could not understand what they were saying.
The 610 idiots including Stoerner have been saying these things more in concert ever since Florio's recent articles.
 
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I find it hard to believe people are so hard up to actually listen to those fools! I'd rather listen to c&w music
I still like Stoerner. I think he’s funny & doesn’t come across as if he “knows” something he obviously doesn’t. It’s just his opinion & he doesn’t present it as if it’s anything else.

But I haven’t been able to listen to any of them regularly since the end of the season
 
Interesting

of any ‘violence, threat, force or coercion’ by Watson

Well that says a lot

Reiterates Robinson can only rule based on five cases

I'm not understanding this. Can anyone explain?
 
I still like Stoerner. I think he’s funny & doesn’t come across as if he “knows” something he obviously doesn’t. It’s just his opinion & he doesn’t present it as if it’s anything else.

But I haven’t been able to listen to any of them regularly since the end of the season

Ya I've never really got the intense hate for Stoerner. Unless I've missed something he comes across, imo, pretty down to earth and without much pretense for his knowledge of a given situation. I know he gets ribbed for the whole Baytown hillbilly accent kinda thing, idk maybe that's it.
 
The NFL is going to take a PR hit if Watson skates out of this. How big a hit that will be and how long it lasts is another thing.
Personally I think that Roger Goodell knows that and he is doing the right thing by allowing a female federal judge to take all the time she needs. I am truly hoping that he tries to correct previous mistakes and steps up on this one. Having said that he really needs to do something to discipline and Corral the owners. I just cannot understand how the majority of the owners can let a handful act out like they do.
 
Personally I think that Roger Goodell knows that and he is doing the right thing by allowing a female federal judge to take all the time she needs. I am truly hoping that he tries to correct previous mistakes and steps up on this one. Having said that he really needs to do something to discipline and Corral the owners. I just cannot understand how the majority of the owners can let a handful act out like they do.
If you look at the real story behind Pilot Flying J, you would know that Haslam should have never been allowed to have a franchise. Owners no doubt know that if they push for other owners to be harshly judged and disciplined, they could eventually find themselves in a situation where they are the focused target of those same owners.
 
Ya I've never really got the intense hate for Stoerner. Unless I've missed something he comes across, imo, pretty down to earth and without much pretense for his knowledge of a given situation. I know he gets ribbed for the whole Baytown hillbilly accent kinda thing, idk maybe that's it.
I don't get the hate either. He's a local guy, former NFL QB and doesn't seem to be a guy who constantly stirs the pot with outlandish takes. BTW. I know many people from the Baytown area and even they wonder what's up with the hillbilly accent.
 
I find it hard to believe people are so hard up to actually listen to those fools! I'd rather listen to c&w music
I still like Stoerner. I think he’s funny & doesn’t come across as if he “knows” something he obviously doesn’t. It’s just his opinion & he doesn’t present it as if it’s anything else.
Ya I've never really got the intense hate for Stoerner. Unless I've missed something he comes across, imo, pretty down to earth and without much pretense for his knowledge of a given situation.
I don't get the hate either. He's a local guy, former NFL QB and doesn't seem to be a guy who constantly stirs the pot with outlandish takes.
FYI, I wasn't including Stoerner or gave him any thought at all. To me, the fools on 610 are John Lopez and Cody Stoops or whoever his current partners that feed him are. I havent listened to them since Lance Z left and only did before on long commuting drives because there was no other sports news early mornings
 
One of the problems I have with 610 is that they keep entertaining that imbecile Larry in Stafford. I'll go weeks, maybe months without listening to 610, decide on a random commute home to tune them in just for the sake of being curious and no sooner I switch over it's that moron talking. My God his takes are the worst but they keep (I guess) letting him on. As far as I know, they've never cut him off.
 
One of the problems I have with 610 is that they keep entertaining that imbecile Larry in Stafford. I'll go weeks, maybe months without listening to 610, decide on a random commute home to tune them in just for the sake of being curious and no sooner I switch over it's that moron talking. My God his takes are the worst but they keep (I guess) letting him on. As far as I know, they've never cut him off.

I can’t take Seth Payne. He ruins any momentum in a conversation with some over the top philosophical BS, analogy or metaphor.
 
I can’t take Seth Payne. He ruins any momentum in a conversation with some over the top philosophical BS, analogy or metaphor.
Yeah but it was great when he threatened to light up that idiot Sean something or other on another Channel
 
FYI, I wasn't including Stoerner or gave him any thought at all. To me, the fools on 610 are John Lopez and Cody Stoops or whoever his current partners that feed him are. I havent listened to them since Lance Z left and only did before on long commuting drives because there was no other sports news early mornings
Yeah, the only time I listen in the morning was when McClain is on, or they advertise they'll have Caserio or a coach I want to hear on
 
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I live in Austin area and the 610 app gets alot of run during draft and football season. Usually listen to morning show. Landry doesn't do it for me. Lopez is fine. Clint and show, well they ain't saying anything that wasn't said already today
 
I don't get the hate either. He's a local guy, former NFL QB and doesn't seem to be a guy who constantly stirs the pot with outlandish takes. BTW. I know many people from the Baytown area and even they wonder what's up with the hillbilly accent.
I think the thing that gets to me most about Stoerner is that his 3rd grade grammar is so bad, it seems that he skipped English classes altogether when attending Arkansas. To me, it's like fingernails on a chalkboard. It seems like as a radio broadcaster, he would care about it, unless he thinks that his 610 listeners are too uneducated to even notice.
 
I think the thing that gets to me most about Stoerner is that his 3rd grade grammar is so bad, it seems that he skipped English classes altogether when attending Arkansas. To me, it's like fingernails on a chalkboard. It seems like as a radio broadcaster, he would care about it, unless he thinks that his 610 listeners are too uneducated to even notice.
I think that and his references to beer drinking is his way of being one of his listeners, buds.
 
Sounds to me like he's just not trying to be someone that he's not.

Idk, it's relatively refreshing to hear in a colloquial sense in that it could be any number of chill people I've known throughout my life. Just happens to be a former player from near my hometown who talks primarily about my team. And cool.
 
I am so happy that this thread has gotten away from being about HWSNBN2. Hopefully the next new we get about HWSNBN2 is details of his lengthy suspension and the pain it causes the Browns
 
I am so happy that this thread has gotten away from being about HWSNBN2. Hopefully the next new we get about HWSNBN2 is details of his lengthy suspension and the pain it causes the Browns
You had to ruin it

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I think the thing that gets to me most about Stoerner is that his 3rd grade grammar is so bad, it seems that he skipped English classes altogether when attending Arkansas. To me, it's like fingernails on a chalkboard. It seems like as a radio broadcaster, he would care about it, unless he thinks that his 610 listeners are too uneducated to even notice.
Hughley is pretty bad as well…
 
Hughley is pretty bad as well…

Dude doesn't even know where the muffler on a car is.. He thought it was somewhere underneath the hood. Ever since I heard him say that on the radio I can't take anything he says seriously. Iirc Landry didn't know where it was either. Both my sisters even know where the damn muffler is, hell just about all the women I know, knows what a muffler is.
 
One of the problems I have with 610 is that they keep entertaining that imbecile Larry in Stafford. I'll go weeks, maybe months without listening to 610, decide on a random commute home to tune them in just for the sake of being curious and no sooner I switch over it's that moron talking. My God his takes are the worst but they keep (I guess) letting him on. As far as I know, they've never cut him off.

I call that Jim Rome syndrome. Ever since he arrived in the '90's, the yelling, over-the-top opinionated "have a take and don't suck" style of radio caller has permeated sports talk.

Larry in Stafford has a shtick. Sometimes he can be humorous (I did find some of his Easterby rants humorous), but it seems to me that he's working a thought out routine every time he's on the air. It's stale at this point.
 
I can't take a guy seriously that calls people Chief and sounds like he's into eating road-kill possum downed with a Lonestar beer. Maybe it's because I was born in NJ, but I cannot stand the whole I'm a redneck routine from anyone. It's like fingernails on a chalkboard. I'm surprised he doesn't talk about jumping into his concrete pond with Granny and Jethro.
 
Dude doesn't even know where the muffler on a car is.. He thought it was somewhere underneath the hood. Ever since I heard him say that on the radio I can't take anything he says seriously. Iirc Landry didn't know where it was either. Both my sisters even know where the damn muffler is, hell just about all the women I know, knows what a muffler is.

Sorry I didn't see this post.

It would be a deal breaker for me if I showed a woman where the muffler is and she came back a couple of weeks later and asked me where the muffler is. Every woman I've ever been associated with knows/knew what and the muffler is. Grandmother/Mother/Sisters etc... Girls that were friends/girlfriends/ex wife/wife etc....

Those guys are idiots.
 
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Dude doesn't even know where the muffler on a car is.. He thought it was somewhere underneath the hood. Ever since I heard him say that on the radio I can't take anything he says seriously. Iirc Landry didn't know where it was either. Both my sisters even know where the damn muffler is, hell just about all the women I know, knows what a muffler is.
I had to google the dipstick on my Porsche Panamera. Come to find out , it doesn't have such a thing. It has an oil sensor,no dipstick. i'm not sure what kind of vehicle he has, maybe its a hybrid or electric? Just saying
 
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