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All encompassing 2022 draft thoughts thread

leebigeztx said:
Cooks is one hit from retirement. No matter what anyone thinks of Mills, myself included, getting another top shelf wr threat sets up whomever plays qb
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Agreed. I don’t think the cooks signing changes anything in terms of needing another receiver.
Christian Watson ran an unofficial 4.28 and a 4.36 at the combine. Dude is nearly 6’5” with burner speed.
He’d be perfect. And yes I like Moore too. I see both him and Watson gone by pick 40 though.
 
Jack Burton said:
Agreed. I don’t think the cooks signing changes anything in terms of needing another receiver.
Christian Watson ran an unofficial 4.28 and a 4.36 at the combine. Dude is nearly 6’5” with burner speed.
He’d be perfect. And yes I like Moore too. I see both him and Watson gone by pick 40 though.
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I'm not knocking Watson, but there have been plenty of big,tall,fast, wrs who couldn't get open. If you cant drop your hips and run a comeback or a post route, that 4.3 speed means nothing. You have to be able to show a route even if you're running another.
 
leebigeztx said:
I'm not knocking Watson, but there have been plenty of big,tall,fast, wrs who couldn't get open. If you cant drop your hips and run a comeback or a post route, that 4.3 speed means nothing. You have to be able to show a route even if you're running another.
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Agreed. I think Watson is fine but I would of liked to see his targets up a bit more.
I also really like Pierce.
Man, talk about getting open….
And even when he’s not open, he comes down with it.
 
leebigeztx said:
I'm not knocking Watson, but there have been plenty of big,tall,fast, wrs who couldn't get open. If you cant drop your hips and run a comeback or a post route, that 4.3 speed means nothing. You have to be able to show a route even if you're running another.
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Watson can do this, or atleast it appeared he could do this during the Sr. Bowl practices.
 
leebigeztx said:
I'm not knocking Watson, but there have been plenty of big,tall,fast, wrs who couldn't get open. If you cant drop your hips and run a comeback or a post route, that 4.3 speed means nothing. You have to be able to show a route even if you're running another.
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Agreed. Texans have a guy who blew up the combine more than anybody in this year’s WR class in Chris Conley who has yet to translate that athleticism into anything beyond below average WR2/average WR3.

Chris Conley - WR - Georgia - 2015 Draft Scout/NCAA College Football

Chris Conley - WR - Georgia - 2015 Draft Scout/NCAA College Football
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Texansphan said:
Wow - what's wrong with this guy?
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Check out Conley's stats and bio - he even has big hands at 9 7/8" and ran a 4:33.
Must be his attitude? Maybe the team counselor needs to have a chat with him to see if he has an underlying issue. He even had an unofficial 4:23! A guy that can run like that should be able to take the top off a defense. He could earn a mega contract if he could consistently do that.
I wonder if an incentive bonus would help - like score 10 TDs over the season and earn another million...
 
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OptimisticTexan said:
I think it was Watson (NDSU) who hit the sub 4.4-40. Pierce’s Combine 40 was listed as 4.41. Either receiver would be a good fit for the Texans b/c they’re blue-collar WR’s who do the dirty work downfield with physicality.
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Pierce ran a 4.33
www.newyorkjets.com

WR Alec Pierce (Cincinnati) Runs a 4.33 40-Yard Dash at the 2022 Combine

Watch Cincinnati wide receiver Alec Pierce officially run a 4.33 40-yard dash at the 2022 combine. Watch the NFL Combine on NFL Network.
www.newyorkjets.com www.newyorkjets.com
 
Jack Burton said:
And keeping with 40 times London did not even run the 40. But man, this kid is seriously talented. He reminds me of Mike Evans too. Lots of comps to Evans out there.
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I bet he's in the 4.6 range and I would pick him in a heartbeat if he falls to 37. Which is doubtful.
 
steelbtexan said:
I bet he's in the 4.6 range and I would pick him in a heartbeat if he falls to 37. Which is doubtful.
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Pros
  • Rare combination of size and athleticism
  • Elite hands and ball skills at all levels
  • Impressive timing on leaps
  • Crisp routes and success at all three levels of the defense
  • Uses height and strong hands to win almost all 50/50 balls
  • Experienced both outside and in the slot
  • Basketball skills add to superior catch ability
  • Dominated NCAA defenses
  • Size makes him a formidable downfield blocker
  • Smart receiver that finds the open spot
Cons
  • Lack of elite speed is compensated with size and football IQ
  • Didn’t measure at combine but should at Pro Day
  • Needs work on run blocking
  • Not quick off the line
  • Most experience was in the slot, not outside
Fantasy outlook
Drake London rates to be in the first round, usually as a Top-3 rookie wideout and has the chance of being the first name called for his position. Breaking his ankle last season short-circuited an electric performance on an otherwise ineffective Trojans’ team. London was described as “a quarterback’s best friend”. He was so proficient with receptions, that he didn’t need the ball thrown to him, merely “at him,” and he’d come down with it.
A perceived lack of top speed, and quickness getting there, is a downgrade by some scouts, but there is no arguing how well he played, and on a team without any other elements of an elite offense around him. London compares to Mike Evans who logged much the same measurables when he entered the NFL.
London needs to prove that the fractured ankle is not of any ongoing concern – and it isn’t expected to be. But his recovery meant that he wouldn’t have logged as fast in a 40-time back at the NFL Combine, so he’s delayed his personal Pro Day as long as he can.

London may not sport elite speed, but he’s been everything else that a team could want from their No. 1 wideout. While he was once described as a tremendously talented tight end, he is not slow. He is a factor on deep routes though his bread and butter is short and intermediate routes that maximizes his catching ability, size advantage and overall football intelligence.
There’s plenty to love about a 6-4 receiver with elite hands and pass-catching skills. Playing on a USC team that trailed in most games last year and that had no other real threats, London still managed to catch at least nine passes in all but one game and turned in over 130 yards in six of the eight. He’d be a great addition to a team with a young quarterback looking to establish a connection that could last for years.
And he’d be a potential rookie of the year if he ends up paired with one of the elite veteran quarterbacks.

I would not be upset if we take this guy.
 
Texansphan said:
Pros
  • Rare combination of size and athleticism
  • Elite hands and ball skills at all levels
  • Impressive timing on leaps
  • Crisp routes and success at all three levels of the defense
  • Uses height and strong hands to win almost all 50/50 balls
  • Experienced both outside and in the slot
  • Basketball skills add to superior catch ability
  • Dominated NCAA defenses
  • Size makes him a formidable downfield blocker
  • Smart receiver that finds the open spot
Cons
  • Lack of elite speed is compensated with size and football IQ
  • Didn’t measure at combine but should at Pro Day
  • Needs work on run blocking
  • Not quick off the line
  • Most experience was in the slot, not outside
Fantasy outlook
Drake London rates to be in the first round, usually as a Top-3 rookie wideout and has the chance of being the first name called for his position. Breaking his ankle last season short-circuited an electric performance on an otherwise ineffective Trojans’ team. London was described as “a quarterback’s best friend”. He was so proficient with receptions, that he didn’t need the ball thrown to him, merely “at him,” and he’d come down with it.
A perceived lack of top speed, and quickness getting there, is a downgrade by some scouts, but there is no arguing how well he played, and on a team without any other elements of an elite offense around him. London compares to Mike Evans who logged much the same measurables when he entered the NFL.
London needs to prove that the fractured ankle is not of any ongoing concern – and it isn’t expected to be. But his recovery meant that he wouldn’t have logged as fast in a 40-time back at the NFL Combine, so he’s delayed his personal Pro Day as long as he can.

London may not sport elite speed, but he’s been everything else that a team could want from their No. 1 wideout. While he was once described as a tremendously talented tight end, he is not slow. He is a factor on deep routes though his bread and butter is short and intermediate routes that maximizes his catching ability, size advantage and overall football intelligence.
There’s plenty to love about a 6-4 receiver with elite hands and pass-catching skills. Playing on a USC team that trailed in most games last year and that had no other real threats, London still managed to catch at least nine passes in all but one game and turned in over 130 yards in six of the eight. He’d be a great addition to a team with a young quarterback looking to establish a connection that could last for years.
And he’d be a potential rookie of the year if he ends up paired with one of the elite veteran quarterbacks.

I would not be upset if we take this guy.
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Heck of a prospect and would give Mills two WRs with an A+ catch radius. I just don’t want to spend 13 on him given the team’s other needs and who may be available later that can help. But I certainly wouldn’t go all Texian on the file clerk if this is who they pick…
 
TheRealJoker said:
Heck of a prospect and would give Mills two WRs with an A+ catch radius. I just don’t want to spend 13 on him given the team’s other needs and who may be available later that can help. But I certainly wouldn’t go all Texian on the file clerk if this is who they pick…
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He will be a great possession receiver and should become a big target and go-to guy for Mills to compliment Cooks.
I like the "elite hands", "crisp routes" and "smart and finds holes in the slot" comments.
Seems he is tailor made for our sorry offense.
 
CloakNNNdagger said:
Stingley is visiting the Texans today.
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Wonder when they’ll have Andrew Booth come to town? It looks like they have had all the projected top half of first round CBs and edge rushers in for visits now.

It doesn’t mean they only draft people who came in for a visit. But seeing the position groupings gives a good idea of what they are looking for…

And if I am looking at two positions where nobody has been added… its edge rusher and outside CB (unless you count taking a flyer on Reggie Robinson a major addition).
 
Guess who?
"The 6-foot-3, 200-pound cornerback’s performance in that final outing capped off what will forever be known as one of the best seasons — and careers — from a collegiate defensive back. He allowed 131 yards across 14 games and 482 coverage snaps this year. Impressively, he did that while playing mostly on an island in press-man coverage. ******* closed out his three years playing over 1,100 coverage snaps without a touchdown allowed to give him one of the most decorated collegiate careers we have seen." From PFF
 
Texansphan said:
Pros
  • Rare combination of size and athleticism
  • Elite hands and ball skills at all levels
  • Impressive timing on leaps
  • Crisp routes and success at all three levels of the defense
  • Uses height and strong hands to win almost all 50/50 balls
  • Experienced both outside and in the slot
  • Basketball skills add to superior catch ability
  • Dominated NCAA defenses
  • Size makes him a formidable downfield blocker
  • Smart receiver that finds the open spot
Cons
  • Lack of elite speed is compensated with size and football IQ
  • Didn’t measure at combine but should at Pro Day
  • Needs work on run blocking
  • Not quick off the line
  • Most experience was in the slot, not outside
Fantasy outlook
Drake London rates to be in the first round, usually as a Top-3 rookie wideout and has the chance of being the first name called for his position. Breaking his ankle last season short-circuited an electric performance on an otherwise ineffective Trojans’ team. London was described as “a quarterback’s best friend”. He was so proficient with receptions, that he didn’t need the ball thrown to him, merely “at him,” and he’d come down with it.
A perceived lack of top speed, and quickness getting there, is a downgrade by some scouts, but there is no arguing how well he played, and on a team without any other elements of an elite offense around him. London compares to Mike Evans who logged much the same measurables when he entered the NFL.
London needs to prove that the fractured ankle is not of any ongoing concern – and it isn’t expected to be. But his recovery meant that he wouldn’t have logged as fast in a 40-time back at the NFL Combine, so he’s delayed his personal Pro Day as long as he can.

London may not sport elite speed, but he’s been everything else that a team could want from their No. 1 wideout. While he was once described as a tremendously talented tight end, he is not slow. He is a factor on deep routes though his bread and butter is short and intermediate routes that maximizes his catching ability, size advantage and overall football intelligence.
There’s plenty to love about a 6-4 receiver with elite hands and pass-catching skills. Playing on a USC team that trailed in most games last year and that had no other real threats, London still managed to catch at least nine passes in all but one game and turned in over 130 yards in six of the eight. He’d be a great addition to a team with a young quarterback looking to establish a connection that could last for years.
And he’d be a potential rookie of the year if he ends up paired with one of the elite veteran quarterbacks.

I would not be upset if we take this guy.
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12 ypc. I'll pass until the 5th or 6th rd. Why take a possession wr now when there are better prospects on the board is my question.
 
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********** already was in the rare tier of players PFF has graded entering 2021, as he recorded the fifth-best PFF grade among centers in 2019 and then claimed the No. 1 spot in 2020 after flipping from defensive tackle to the position after his first year on campus in 2018. This year, he solidified himself as the best player PFF has ever seen at the position. **********’s 95.4 grade in 2021 is the highest by a Power Five center in the PFF College era.
 
Guess who?
"******* was the engine of the Rams’ offense this season. The 6-foot-4, 260-pound tight end was targeted on 30% of his routes — the second-highest rate at the position — and he finished the season averaging an incredible 2.77 yards per route run. ******* earned a stellar 95.0 PFF overall grade for his efforts — second to only Kyle Pitts (2020) in the PFF College era. He also picked up 18 more combined first downs and touchdowns than any other FBS tight end.

And if that wasn't enough, he also recorded the seventh-most positively graded run blocks among FBS tight ends. Between his receiving ability and blocking prowess, ******* has made his name known as an all-around weapon at the tight end position."
 
Guess who?
"****** was running away with the Biletnikoff Award before fracturing his right ankle in Week 9. Despite not playing a full season, he should have taken home the award given his routine dominance before the injury, as the 6-foot-5, 210-pound receiver earned a 91.8 receiving grade this year. He dominated in one-on-one scenarios and put up monster numbers due to his physicality and ball skills. ****** totaled 19 contested catches and 22 broken tackles in eight games — the former is six more than any other Power Five wide receiver through Week 12 while the latter is the second-most."
 
Guess who?
"*******s 93.6 pass-rush grade flew under the radar in the COVID-shortened 2020 season, but that elite level of production remained in 2021. The Oklahoma edge defender earned a 92.5 pass-rush grade this regular season — tying for the second-best mark in the Power Five, behind only Hutchinson. He generated multiple pressures in every game he played, recording a pass-rush win rate above 18% in each contest. His 27.1% pass-rush win rate over the season ranks first among FBS players at the position."

This one will have you guessing!
 
Texansphan said:
Pros
  • Rare combination of size and athleticism
  • Elite hands and ball skills at all levels
  • Impressive timing on leaps
  • Crisp routes and success at all three levels of the defense
  • Uses height and strong hands to win almost all 50/50 balls
  • Experienced both outside and in the slot
  • Basketball skills add to superior catch ability
  • Dominated NCAA defenses
  • Size makes him a formidable downfield blocker
  • Smart receiver that finds the open spot
Cons
  • Lack of elite speed is compensated with size and football IQ
  • Didn’t measure at combine but should at Pro Day
  • Needs work on run blocking
  • Not quick off the line
  • Most experience was in the slot, not outside
Fantasy outlook
Drake London rates to be in the first round, usually as a Top-3 rookie wideout and has the chance of being the first name called for his position. Breaking his ankle last season short-circuited an electric performance on an otherwise ineffective Trojans’ team. London was described as “a quarterback’s best friend”. He was so proficient with receptions, that he didn’t need the ball thrown to him, merely “at him,” and he’d come down with it.
A perceived lack of top speed, and quickness getting there, is a downgrade by some scouts, but there is no arguing how well he played, and on a team without any other elements of an elite offense around him. London compares to Mike Evans who logged much the same measurables when he entered the NFL.
London needs to prove that the fractured ankle is not of any ongoing concern – and it isn’t expected to be. But his recovery meant that he wouldn’t have logged as fast in a 40-time back at the NFL Combine, so he’s delayed his personal Pro Day as long as he can.

London may not sport elite speed, but he’s been everything else that a team could want from their No. 1 wideout. While he was once described as a tremendously talented tight end, he is not slow. He is a factor on deep routes though his bread and butter is short and intermediate routes that maximizes his catching ability, size advantage and overall football intelligence.
There’s plenty to love about a 6-4 receiver with elite hands and pass-catching skills. Playing on a USC team that trailed in most games last year and that had no other real threats, London still managed to catch at least nine passes in all but one game and turned in over 130 yards in six of the eight. He’d be a great addition to a team with a young quarterback looking to establish a connection that could last for years.
And he’d be a potential rookie of the year if he ends up paired with one of the elite veteran quarterbacks.

I would not be upset if we take this guy.
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Mike Evans was 20 yds per catch. Not only that, he didn't play football until his sr year in high school. Drake London isn't close to the prospect Evans was.
 
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