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Head Coach Candidate (Lovie Smith Hired) 2/7/22

texanhead08 said:
It does look suspect that even after he was traded Hopkins was chirping on Twitter about every mistake the Texans organization did until Watson got the civil suits and he's been quiet since that happened.
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Wonder why Hopkins went radio silence?

Could it be Derrick's problems were hitting to close to home.
 
CloakNNNdagger said:
Texans hope someone else will interview Josh McCown
January 21, 2022, 9:56 AM EST

The Texans interviewed long-time NFL quarterback Josh McCown for the head-coaching job a year ago, despite the fact that McCown has no experience coaching college or pro football, in any capacity. They’ve interviewed him again this year, despite the fact that (checks notes) McCown still has no experience coaching college or pro football, in any capacity.

here’s building chatter in league circles that the Texans really want to hire McCown. Some in the media possibly have been enlisted to spin the notion that it’s not as crazy as it sounds. (It is.)

The Texans apparently know they need more than a supportive tweet from one of G.M. Nick Caserio’s reporter-friends. They believe they need, as we hear it, another team to interview McCown in order to legitimate and normalize the notion of McCown going straight to the job of head coach, despite having no experience coaching college or pro football, in any capacity.

Will someone do it? Maybe. Many favors are traded in the NFL, for many different reasons. What if, for example, the Jaguars decide to do a solid for McCown’s agent, Mike McCartney, who also represents Michigan pass rusher Asa Hutchinson? How long does it take? Two hours? The time spent could help set the right tone for the inevitable Hutchinson contract talks.

The point for now is that the Texans are seriously considering hiring McCown, despite no coaching experience at the college or pro level, in any capacity. And maybe they will.

If it works, great. If it doesn’t, they can always fire him after a year, citing “philosophical difference."
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It might explain Caserio's move to have Pep Hamilton cancel his interview. McCown, like O'Connell would be a rookie HC who could benefit tremendously by having some savvy coordinators around to help with the transition.

I still prefer O'Connell but if Caserio feels obligated to give him an opportunity....give him an assistant job with one of the position coaches so he can start cutting his NFL coaching teeth.
 
Gannon reportedly a front-runner for Texans job

The first interview for Gannon came on Tuesday with the Houston Texans and he reportedly “made a very strong impression” on the Texans and “is considered by some in that building to be the current front-runner for the job,” ESPN’s Dan Graziano reported.

The other note from Graziano about Gannon is about his ability to connect and build relationships with players and fellow coaches. That’s important for some Eagles fans who might be confused as to why Gannon is garnering so much attention as a head coaching candidate.
 
Corrosion said:
Larry In Stafford Confirmed.


Everything's about Jack.
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Maybe Jack (Easterby) would also like to hire a "Nun" for the sidelines so when they make a mistake she can come up and demand they hold their hand out so she can whack their knuckles.

Jack's also having a tough time hiring a team Priest....seems candy works better on the youngsters but not so well with the grown men.

Personally, I'm looking forward to seeing Jack lead the Texans to the Super Bowl.
 
OptimisticTexan said:
I’m going to go with CNNND on the new HC. I’ve taken some time to read up on Kevin O’Connell as well as Pep Hamilton. Why Pep? To see what type of compatibility the two may have. In all honesty, there’s a ton to like, especially on the way they’ve manipulated the West Coast Offenses into separate levels of success.

I think this duo could be highly successful for the Texans offense and Mills. I see Mills as a prototypical QB for the WCO who could become even more effective once he masters the art of the “Play Action” pass. Let them merge their ideas of the WCO for a new offensive system and it might be pretty damm exciting.

The big question, would O’Connell be okay with Caserio already having his coaching staff in place. IMHO…I think this would be fine with O’Connell since this would be his first HC’ing gig and landing veteran coordinators like Lovie Smith and Pep Hamilton wouldn’t be likely for a rookie HC coming into a pretty tough situation with the Texans organization. The negotiation going on behind the scenes may be on how many position coaches O’Connell could personally add to the existing staff.
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Doing a little more browsing and ran across this interesting tidbit. Texans OL Coach, James Campen began his NFL coaching career with the Green Bay Packers as an Assistant OL Coach. He was hired by Mike Sherman and instructed to learn and teach the OL personnel the Denver ZBS. He stayed at that position for 11 years and had 7 Pro Bowl lineman during his tenure.

WCO...ZBS...Pep Hamilton staying put...maybe it does equate to James O'Connell being named the next Texans HC. Has Caserio been putting his puzzle pieces together slowly but surely?
 
Speedy said:
I think you’re gonna be in for a loooooong wait.
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Can you give me tomorrow nights winning lottery numbers while you're making predictions?

I bet you were this way with the Stros when Luhnow was rebuilding them?
 
OptimisticTexan said:
would O’Connell be okay with Caserio already having his coaching staff in place. IMHO…I think this would be fine with O’Connell since this would be his first HC’ing gig and landing veteran coordinators like Lovie Smith and Pep Hamilton
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I think he’d be ok with it, because he knows many of them.

HC - O’Connell
OC - Pep Hamilton
QB coach - Josh McCown
 
OptimisticTexan said:
Doing a little more browsing and ran across this interesting tidbit. Texans OL Coach, James Campen began his NFL coaching career with the Green Bay Packers as an Assistant OL Coach. He was hired by Mike Sherman and instructed to learn and teach the OL personnel the Denver ZBS. He stayed at that position for 11 years and had 7 Pro Bowl lineman during his tenure.

WCO...ZBS...Pep Hamilton staying put...maybe it does equate to James O'Connell being named the next Texans HC. Has Caserio been putting his puzzle pieces together slowly but surely?
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Kevin O'Connell, but hopefully this is what Caserio's been doing.
 
OptimisticTexan said:
I’m going to go with CNNND on the new HC. I’ve taken some time to read up on Kevin O’Connell as well as Pep Hamilton. Why Pep? To see what type of compatibility the two may have. In all honesty, there’s a ton to like, especially on the way they’ve manipulated the West Coast Offenses into separate levels of success.

I think this duo could be highly successful for the Texans offense and Mills. I see Mills as a prototypical QB for the WCO who could become even more effective once he masters the art of the “Play Action” pass. Let them merge their ideas of the WCO for a new offensive system and it might be pretty damm exciting.

The big question, would O’Connell be okay with Caserio already having his coaching staff in place. IMHO…I think this would be fine with O’Connell since this would be his first HC’ing gig and landing veteran coordinators like Lovie Smith and Pep Hamilton wouldn’t be likely for a rookie HC coming into a pretty tough situation with the Texans organization. The negotiation going on behind the scenes may be on how many position coaches O’Connell could personally add to the existing staff.
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Nobody is comfortable with that except David Culley
 
Earl34 said:
If they took a picture of the 2008-2009 Texans coaching staff, Robert Saleh would replace McVay in the photo. It's ironic that so many bright, young, future HC candidates were in Houston and after Kubiak, we ended up with BOB and Culley. I guess timing is everything.
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This is exactly why I think people are reaching to hire young coordinators with little experience.

Does that mean to reach for someone like McCown whose only experience is in high school? No. Reach for people in the NFL.
 
leebigeztx said:
If Nick wants the confidence of the fans, hire someone other than a Patriots assistant. Get someone off another tree.
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I really don’t care where he’s from. As long as we start winning. I’ll have less patience for someone from “the click”
 
Porky said:
Josh McCown would be from another tree….in a different Forrest…on another planet…in a distant galaxy.
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What's the connection between McCown & Easterby? McCown never played for the Patriots did he?
 
leebigeztx said:
Could be he's moved on like Charles O, JJ, Cobb, and Whitney.
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Looks like a case study of old overpaid vets out from the guys you listed in this post.

Charlie O got beat out for his spot by Martin and Greenard so he didn't get the time he wanted. He stopped putting in the work and got pt on the inactive list for a few games and poof he's gone. He's easily replaceable.
 
djohn2oo8 said:
They are supposedly friends
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Yeah, I got that.

So... on 610 they just said McCown has got to be considered the frontrunner since he's the only guy interviewed last season & this season. But, Caserio didn't interview him. Or did he? I thought last year's interview was before Caserio was hired.

So yeah, I can see Easterby saying, "Hey, could you do me a favor & interview Josh." & I don't see anything wrong with that. Most likely he won't be brought in as our HC. That's out there. OC, still a little strange.
 
BigBen said:
Are you comparing Luhnow to Easterby?...oof
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I'm comparing what Luhnow did to what Caserio is currently doing. Out with the old and in with the new. (Bringing in their guys) Easterby has nothing to do with football opps according to Cal/Caserio. Dont buy what the media is trying to sell you. They're doing this because controversy sells. Look at your post as an example. The media not just in sports but in general is evil.

In short I will continue to believe Cal/Caserio until they give me reason not to believe them.
 
If Caserio believes McCown is the best man to go up against the likes of Belichick, Shanahan, Andy Reid, Tomlin, Payton, McVay and the list goes on and on then we have a more serious problem at the GM level.
Think about the centuries of experience and knowledge that these guys have gained as position coaches, coordinators, and Head Coaches at the college level and NFL, and our GM thinks that McCown who has never coached at the HS level has the knowledge to better any one of this group?
Hopefully Nick is interviewing McCown for a position coach job and this is all much ado about nothing.
 
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steelbtexan said:
Looks like a case study of old overpaid vets out from the guys you listed in this post.

Charlie O got beat out for his spot by Martin and Greenard so he didn't get the time he wanted. He stopped putting in the work and got pt on the inactive list for a few games and poof he's gone. He's easily replaceable.
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One is a LDE and the other 2 are RDE. Martin is a package player. The fact that they all said the same thing on the way out the door says alot. Whitney ,who was the poster child of Jack, Bob, and culture, spoke about the organization from the tippity top. Andre, JJ, all points to how bad and the disconnect from the fans. C'mon, Jack running the show. He has entrusted himself even above Caserio and candidates are asking about Jack from the stories and write ups. If you don't believe that, then that's you.
 
steelbtexan said:
I'm comparing what Luhnow did to what Caserio is currently doing. Out with the old and in with the new. (Bringing in their guys) Easterby has nothing to do with football opps according to Cal/Caserio. Dont buy what the media is trying to sell you. They're doing this because controversy sells. Look at your post as an example. The media not just in sports but in general is evil.

In short I will continue to believe Cal/Caserio until they give me reason not to believe them.
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What about Jack? Thats the man you need belief in.
 
leebigeztx said:
One is a LDE and the other 2 are RDE. Martin is a package player. The fact that they all said the same thing on the way out the door says alot. Whitney ,who was the poster child of Jack, Bob, and culture, spoke about the organization from the tippity top. Andre, JJ, all points to how bad and the disconnect from the fans. C'mon, Jack running the show. He has entrusted himself even above Caserio and candidates are asking about Jack from the stories and write ups. If you don't believe that, then that's you.
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The fact that Whitney/Cunningham/Cobb etc.. You know Jack's guys are no longer on the team should tell you that Caserio's running the football opps down on Kirby. But it wont, because it doesn't fit your narrative.
 
Aaron Wilson reported on Friday morning that the Jaguars had a “conversation” this week with McCown. Michael Silver thereafter reported that the “conversation” was not an interview. Wilson then conceded that McCown simply had a “talk” with G.M. Trent Baalke and not a formal interview.

As we reported earlier in the day, the Texans had hoped to finagle a Jaguars “interview” for McCown. By creating the impression that other teams are considering McCown, it doesn’t seem quite as nutty for the Texans to hire him.

So will the Texans proceed, even if McCown can’t get an actual “interview” with any of the other teams that are looking for head coaches?

As some have pointed out, why do the Texans even care? Will anyone believe it’s less unconventional to actually hire McCown if someone else actually interviews him? The fact that the Texans realize that McCown’s candidacy needs to be boosted by another interview shows they know just how crazy it would be to hire him.

And now we wait to see whether they will.
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steelbtexan said:
I'm comparing what Luhnow did to what Caserio is currently doing. Out with the old and in with the new. (Bringing in their guys) Easterby has nothing to do with football opps according to Cal/Caserio. Dont buy what the media is trying to sell you. They're doing this because controversy sells. Look at your post as an example. The media not just in sports but in general is evil.

In short I will continue to believe Cal/Caserio until they give me reason not to believe them.
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I understand what your saying. I truly do. The Easterby stuff made me turn my head when it was not just media but players as well. Then the SI article. There was enough to be a little leary. I am all for change and I like Cassario. Unfortunately perception is reality and Easterby has cemented his rep long ago with the fanbase. Now when you see someone who has never even coached a highschool team get an interview for coach it will make everyone's ears perk up. If they actually hire him then most peoples fears of Easterby will be confirmed (rationally or not). The optics are curious at best.
 
The minute McClown is hired is the minute I move into the fire Nick Cassario immediately camp. McClown has zero experience in coaching at the Pro or College level. I think he volunteered to help a local HS coaching staff for a year. He isn't even a paid HS coach. LMAO. He's nowhere near ready to take the reins of a Pro team. It's not even laughable anymore. It's into bizzarro world to get an interview for HC two seasons in a row. It's nuckin futs. I would consider hiring him as an Asst. QB coach or a quality control coach and let him work his way up the ladder for a few years. But now? No answer needed as it's obvious.

There is thinking outside the box, and then there's not even seeing the box with the Earth's most powerful telescope because the box is in a world beyond ours. Why do all these jackholes have to be the smartest guy in the room?

All of this starts at the very top. If I were the owner, I'd fire NC and his buddy the Preacher just for suggesting to bring in McClown for an interview. Game Boy is an empty suit - he's the tin man, the Lion, and the Scarecrow in Wizard of Oz all in one - no brains, no heart, no courage.
 
Porky said:
Game Boy is an empty suit - he's the tin man, the Lion, and the Scarecrow in Wizard of Oz all in one - no brains, no heart, no courage.
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The irony of The Wizard of OZ was that Tin Man, Lion, and Scarecrow had those attributes. The sad truth is that Kyle has none of them.
 
Lucky said:
The irony of The Wizard of OZ was that Tin Man, Lion, and Scarecrow had those attributes. The sad truth is that Kyle has none of them.
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Point taken. I don't want to get off on a tangent, but if I recall, they always had those attributes. But they needed the "all powerful OZ" telling them so to internalize it and become what they could have been all along. Kyle is a middle name? In any event, Cal/Kyle/Game Boy/Empty Suit/general flunky doesn't have any of those attributes and if he were the captain of a sail boat, it would just be adrift at sea and he would be over on the side somewhere playing video games and letting someone else figure out how to get back to land even if they were clueless themselves.
 
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