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Sexual Assault Suits Against Watson

Corrosion said:
I do expect Watson to eventually end up on the CEL , but I think its absolutely comical that he's being forced to squirm like a worm for the time being.
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If he goes on the CEL he gets paid, & the season counts.

best case scenario for the Texans then is for charges to be brought. They can void his 5th year & try to recoup their money.

Otherwise they’re out a bunch of money & trade him for whatever they can get when, if he ever gets off the CEL.. right?
 
Let’s see if he shows up Wednesday and suits up. Everything I’ve heard says he’s still adamant about not playing for the Texans again. If that’s the case, just wait it out. I don’t think Goodell or the Texans have to do anything. He’ll stop showing up. He’s not going to practice with this team wearing the red Texans QB jersey.

I wouldn’t be surprised if some odd injury happens in the next day or two. I would just like to know what can be done when dude all of a sudden comes up with this mysterious injury?
 
thunderkyss said:
If he goes on the CEL he gets paid, & the season counts.

best case scenario for the Texans then is for charges to be brought. They can void his 5th year & try to recoup their money.

Otherwise they’re out a bunch of money & trade him for whatever they can get when, if he ever gets off the CEL.. right?
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If and when charges are brought, the type of charges and details may end his career.
 
Corrosion said:
You gonna have to explain to me how that's a Win for Watson when he's doing something he previously stated he didn't want to do ?

And just because it hasn't happened YET doesn't mean it won't happen.

The odds of Watson taking a snap in the NFL this season are next to Nill.

The league did the Texans a solid by not placing him on that list and forcing him to show or not.
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According to "experts" it's a win because he showed up and that means he has to be paid.
 
Speedy said:
Let’s see if he shows up Wednesday and suits up. Everything I’ve heard says he’s still adamant about not playing for the Texans again. If that’s the case, just wait it out. I don’t think Goodell or the Texans have to do anything. He’ll stop showing up. He’s not going to practice with this team wearing the red Texans QB jersey.

I wouldn’t be surprised if some odd injury happens in the next day or two. I would just like to know what can be done when dude all of a sudden comes up with this mysterious injury?
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According to what I know (from reading)he doesn't have to suit up. Just basically go to meetings and maybe workout.
 
djohn2oo8 said:
Then, if you catch the quote he said a few more women they don’t know about
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From the Article:
Two of the women who have filed complaints with Houston police, Hardin said, have not filed lawsuits against Watson.

"There are a couple of women who we don't know anything about," Hardin said.

Hardin acknowledged knowing the names of the 10 women who have filed criminal complaints, including the two who are not involved in civil litigation, but declined to provide those names to ESPN.
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I'm not following. Hardin says it's 10 total complaints to HPD and 8 of those have civil proceedings against Watson. He then acknowledges knowing the names of all 10 who filed complaints. So how can he know nothing about those 2 when he has their names?
 
KoolAid Sipper said:
From the Article:

I'm not following. Hardin says it's 10 total complaints to HPD and 8 of those have civil proceedings against Watson. He then acknowledges knowing the names of all 10 who filed complaints. So how can he know nothing about those 2 when he has their names?
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I don’t think he is talking about those two. I interpret as he thinks or knows there are more women who will file or have filed
 
pappy said:
What is a telling fact is none of the ladies reported or charged him the day of his assault, or even the next day. Most seem to have waited till after buzzbee contacted them.
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It is telling nothing when it is very common for victims to wait to report their sexual assaults:

Why Women Can Take Years to Come Forward With Sexual Assault Allegations

But experts say that some of the most commonly raised causes for doubt, like a long delay in reporting or a foggy recall of events, are the very hallmarks of sexual assault.

Article
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Just wondering: at any time, in any of the reports of Watson's performances, has physical restraint been mentioned, described, asserted, etc.? I think unwanted grabbing or touching of the provider has been mentioned, which is certainly a violation of some kind, but what prevented any of the providers from leaving the room? I wonder if this becomes part of a legal issue?
 
Corrosion said:
You gonna have to explain to me how that's a Win for Watson when he's doing something he previously stated he didn't want to do ?

And just because it hasn't happened YET doesn't mean it won't happen.

The odds of Watson taking a snap in the NFL this season are next to Nill.

The league did the Texans a solid by not placing him on that list and forcing him to show or not.
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Not my position so cannot explain it. I just posted the link.
 
djohn2oo8 said:
https://twitter.com/x/status/1420133927918919683
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This seems to correlate to my earlier post that only 4 women had been interviewed; they complained and Hardin was not allowing any more interviews. If true this seems to counter the bolded:
CloakNNNdagger said:
Here is the rest of the Florio story:

Attorney Tony Buzbee, who represents the 22 women suing Watson, also provided a statement to ESPN on Monday.

“As of today, almost half of these women have given sworn statements to the police, and almost half have spoken to the NFL’s investigative team,” Buzbee said. “Both processes are very lengthy. We expect to provide further information to the NFL from all victims.”

Hardin reiterated his longstanding position that any settlement could not include a confidentiality provision.

“I do not want anybody to be saying that this guy paid off women to stay quiet and so, if there ever was a settlement of any kind, it would have to be public and therefore both sides, [Watson] and the women, would be able to say to the world at large whatever they wanted,” Hardin said.

It’s hard not to think that Hardin’s candor is aimed at getting the Texans to drop their price (supposedly three first-round draft picks and then some) to reflect the various uncertainties regarding Watson’s status. He could still be placed on paid leave. He could still face criminal charges. He could still lose anywhere from one to 22 trials.

Indeed, Hardin made it clear that he believes teams are ready to do a deal, in light of all current circumstances.

“Teams are ready to jump now if the Texans would trade with them, even while all this is pending,” Hardin said. There’s no question that teams, numerous teams, are still interested. The ball is in the Texans court.”

The onus is on the Texans to drop their price. If they do, perhaps the Broncos or Eagles or Dolphins (or someone else) will bite.
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so which is it 11 that Buzz says or 4 that NFL and Hardin say?
 
badboy said:
and maybe now he realizes the best way to get out of Houston via trade is to show up..
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From what I'm hearing on 610, no one seems to understand why the Texans would allow Watson to be on the field.

What I think, with the NFL now saying that Watson on free to participate in all team activities, the Texans are making a statement to potential trade partners that enforces Watson's availability to play this season.

If a trade is to materialize, the way has been cleared and until, or unless, something breaks in the coming months on the legal front, there's no better time than now for any team in win now mode and just needing a qb of Watson's caliber.
 
Number19 said:
From what I'm hearing on 610, no one seems to understand why the Texans would allow Watson to be on the field.

What I think, with the NFL now saying that Watson on free to participate in all team activities, the Texans are making a statement to potential trade partners that enforces Watson's availability to play this season.

If a trade is to materialize, the way has been cleared and until, or unless, something breaks in the coming months on the legal front, there's no better time than now for any team in win now mode and just needing a qb of Watson's caliber.
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My point exactly and the NFL message about no restrictions seems to fortify my long standing POV that Watson can and will be traded sooner than most are insisting. I repeat my position on a trade has zero to do with my personal feeling on him.
 
badboy said:
My point exactly and the NFL message about no restrictions seems to fortify my long standing POV that Watson can and will be traded sooner than most are insisting. I repeat my position on a trade has zero to do with my personal feeling on him.
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Yup. And more than likely less compensation than what he would be worth without the lawsuits.

Then he will settle during the season and never see a trial. Just my opinion
 
djohn2oo8 said:
He’s forced to show up which he doesn’t wanna do
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I don't know if he said he wouldn't show up. He's been adamant about not playing.

If he's smart, he will go along with everything, until he steps on the practice field, then throw his back out.

Then the Texans would have to ask him to do "reasonable" things & hope he refuses so they can suspend him. But no one has done that before & I doubt the Texans will be the first.
 
amazing80 said:
Yup. And more than likely less compensation than what he would be worth without the lawsuits.

Then he will settle during the season and never see a trial. Just my opinion
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Lawsuits may have nothing to do with it.

Looks like nothing is stopping him from playing this year. He's adamant he's done nothing wrong. So much his attorney is demanding no NDAs be attached with any settlement.

The NFL has found nothing, HPD has found nothing, & they've had plenty of time.

If I were Caserio I'd sell it as if he's going to settle, no NDAs, & be completely exonerated.
 
thunderkyss said:
Lawsuits may have nothing to do with it.

Looks like nothing is stopping him from playing this year. He's adamant he's done nothing wrong. So much his attorney is demanding no NDAs be attached with any settlement.

The NFL has found nothing, HPD has found nothing, & they've had plenty of time.

If I were Caserio I'd sell it as if he's going to settle, no NDAs, & be completely exonerated.
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It's interesting that Hardin is the one mentioning no NDAs. Then again, this could simply be gamesmanship by Hardin and will Buzbee call his bluff?
 
Earl34 said:
It's interesting that Hardin is the one mentioning no NDAs. Then again, this could simply be gamesmanship by Hardin and will Buzbee call his bluff?
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For the purpose of possible trades in the short term, I'm selling it like I believe every word Watson says.

"Trust me, I spoke to the kid myself. This is going to blow over, & soon. The only reason he wants out of here is because of that Easterby dude.

I guarantee we would have gotten rid of our coach before I let Hopkins go. If I were here back then, Watson would be leading us to Super Bowls now.

But, you know... things have been said, bridges burnt. I'm just trying to make the best out of a bad....

Look I'm going to have to call you back. Denver is calling again."
 
Earl34 said:
It's interesting that Hardin is the one mentioning no NDAs. Then again, this could simply be gamesmanship by Hardin and will Buzbee call his bluff?
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as Busbee has been the one demanding that non-disclosures be signed in a complete 180 from most cases I doubt if he will be calling anyone's Bluff.
 
thunderkyss said:
Lawsuits may have nothing to do with it.

Looks like nothing is stopping him from playing this year. He's adamant he's done nothing wrong. So much his attorney is demanding no NDAs be attached with any settlement.

The NFL has found nothing, HPD has found nothing, & they've had plenty of time.

If I were Caserio I'd sell it as if he's going to settle, no NDAs, & be completely exonerated.
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Not true. HPD has not given the NFL access to their evidence. Because they are still investigating. Cases of this magnitude aren’t filed quickly.
 
thunderkyss said:
For the purpose of possible trades in the short term, I'm selling it like I believe every word Watson says.

"Trust me, I spoke to the kid myself. This is going to blow over, & soon. The only reason he wants out of here is because of that Easterby dude.

I guarantee we would have gotten rid of our coach before I let Hopkins go. If I were here back then, Watson would be leading us to Super Bowls now.

But, you know... things have been said, bridges burnt. I'm just trying to make the best out of a bad....

Look I'm going to have to call you back. Denver is calling again."
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When you pick up that call from Denver say yes!
 
Jack Burton said:
Get it done, Nick.
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I feel that Nick, now that he has the apparent okay from the NFL saying no restrictions will do just that. We may get to see just how good of a general manager he is and if he got a round one from Packers for Randall Cobb and moves Watson he will have my vote for general manager of the year. And he could just be beginning.
 
djohn2oo8 said:
Not true. HPD has not given the NFL access to their evidence. Because they are still investigating. Cases of this magnitude aren’t filed quickly.
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What's not true? If NFL had evidence they would have suspended Watson No Doubt. Whether the HPD has found anything is not known so the statement that they have found no evidence could be just as true as if he said they had found evidence we just don't know.
 
djohn2oo8 said:
Another thing the NFL statement about not interfering with the HPD investigation is a tell, they indeed found something
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Come on man! Now you're just making stuff up! A 'tell' means they indeed found something? I know it does not matter to you but I'm beginning to lose respect for you.
 
badboy said:
This seems to correlate to my earlier post that only 4 women had been interviewed; they complained and Hardin was not allowing any more interviews. If true this seems to counter the bolded:

so which is it 11 that Buzz says or 4 that NFL and Hardin say?
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Doesn't really matter, that's 4 too many.
 
Number19 said:
From what I'm hearing on 610, no one seems to understand why the Texans would allow Watson to be on the field.

What I think, with the NFL now saying that Watson on free to participate in all team activities, the Texans are making a statement to potential trade partners that enforces Watson's availability to play this season.

If a trade is to materialize, the way has been cleared and until, or unless, something breaks in the coming months on the legal front, there's no better time than now for any team in win now mode and just needing a qb of Watson's caliber.
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Hopefully this happens

Then if convicted he does jail time.

Some GM will lose his job if this happens.
 
thunderkyss said:
Lawsuits may have nothing to do with it.

Looks like nothing is stopping him from playing this year. He's adamant he's done nothing wrong. So much his attorney is demanding no NDAs be attached with any settlement.

The NFL has found nothing, HPD has found nothing, & they've had plenty of time.

If I were Caserio I'd sell it as if he's going to settle, no NDAs, & be completely exonerated.
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You dont know this.

Agreed about Caserio, do you think a GM will be willing to gamble his career on the Perverts innocence or guilt? I dont
 
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