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What is Watson's value in a trade?
- Thread starter badboy
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Decim8
Veteran
Are you implying watson only wants a colored coach?
I'm not going there.
But just watch how everything plays out and things will become more clear.
Decim8
Veteran
I hope it doesn't come to that, cause I'm warming upto the idea of dabol as coach with watson still in the team. Originally I was in favor of Joe brady, but the situation the Texans are in right now will probably be too much for him
Lol,
Good one, Member 10559.
theCATALYST
Football Messiah
Opinions on this trade scenario?
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Who says no to this hypothetical 3-team trade? <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/49ers?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc^tfw">#49ers</a> get: <br>Deshaun Watson<a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Patriots?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc^tfw">#Patriots</a> get: <br>JJ Watt <br>Jimmy Garoppolo<a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Texans?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc^tfw">#Texans</a> get: <br>2021 1st (SF)<br>2021 2nd (NE) <br>2021 3rd (NE) <br>2022 1st (SF)<br>2022 3rd (SF)<br>2022 4th (NE)<br>2023 1st (SF)</p>— Brian Peacock (@BDPeacock) <a href=" "
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Who says no to this hypothetical 3-team trade? <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/49ers?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc^tfw">#49ers</a> get: <br>Deshaun Watson<a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Patriots?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc^tfw">#Patriots</a> get: <br>JJ Watt <br>Jimmy Garoppolo<a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Texans?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc^tfw">#Texans</a> get: <br>2021 1st (SF)<br>2021 2nd (NE) <br>2021 3rd (NE) <br>2022 1st (SF)<br>2022 3rd (SF)<br>2022 4th (NE)<br>2023 1st (SF)</p>— Brian Peacock (@BDPeacock) <a href=" "
I say no
banned1976
sleeper mode
So the Texans spend the next 3 (or more) years searching for a quarterback?
Why are teams trading their futures for a QB that takes up too much cap space? Doesn't everyone know you can't win if your QB takes up too much cap space???
It's too much for me, and all I'm doing is watching.
Texian
Hall of Fame
NFW - Jets 4 1st RDs is better value.
TexansThunder
Waterboy
I pass. Deshaun Watson is a generational QB - a future Hall of Famer (for the record I don't think the Texans should trade him). If he is traded, 3 first-round picks, 3 second-round picks, and a player would get the conversation started. Trade conversations involving JJ Watt should start with 3rd and 6th round pick.
Watson means more to the Texans than the entirety of the front office staff. McNair needs to remove his own Most Valuable Person (MVP) designation from Jack Easterby. Watson's assessment of the team is considerably more valuable than Easterby's.
What has Easterby accomplished during his tenure? Maybe he should update his resume to read the following:
I am Jack Easterby
I got rid of a head coach
I got rid of a GM
I got rid of the best WR in the game
I fired the team's team's VP of communications
I alienated the team's QB - a future Hall of Famer
I alienated the team's Defensive Anchor and future Hall of Famer
I convinced the owner to ignore the recommendations of the firm he hired to find the next GM
I hand-picked the next GM
I got the owner to take responsibility for my failures
I got the owner to trust me more than he does his own players
I also got the salary cap guy fired, and proceeded to put the team in salary cap hell.
With all of these "accomplishments", my $3 million salary is a bargain. I deserve a raise. Let's pray on it.
maverick512000
Hall of Fame
Its a great trade if you are the 49ers. They are drafting 12th this year and honestly if they got Watson that would be the lowest they would draft so 22 and 23 would likely be late teens to late twenties. Likewise Pats are drafting 14th, a Jets 2nd or Miami 3rd is worth more than 12th and 14th combined.
theCATALYST
Football Messiah
KoolAid Sipper
AFCEVET
I'll take this bet, it's only on the info you provided and not me countering with my choices. Spirit of choice if you win. If I win you have to learn how to post links and start doing so within 2 weeks of the HC hire (regularly)
Texian
Hall of Fame
It does make sense to trade your $40MM a year QB if your team according to Over The Cap is $20MM OVER the cap in 2021 and a league worst $43.75 under in 2022 like the Texans. It also makes sense to trade valuable draft picks for a $40MM franchise QB if your team according to OTC is $62MM UNDER the cap in 2021 and $183MM UNDER the cap going into 2022 like the Jets.
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Decim8
Veteran
Correct me if im wrong but I thought his big money doesn't kick in till 2022?
It will be interesting to see josh Allen and Jackson contract extension coming up
Baker's going to be verrryy interesting..
"Colored Coach" ? Now there's a blast from the past, haven't heard that term for some time.
I won't imply anything but rather I'll be perfectly explicit:
The Houston Texans will have an African American HC this Fall if Deshawn Watson is also on the Texans roster.
TxnsJuggernaut1
Veteran
You took me wrong. In no way was I offended. I simply was saying I do not know much about Miami. I was assuming you think they don't have anybody of any value and I just thought that they have to have some players of value just based on their record this past season. Perhaps I am wrong to think that way.
None the less I enjoy people sharing their knowledge. So thank you for sharing yours.
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It appears Daboll wanted the Chargers' job and nothing else this hiring cycle.
Texian
Hall of Fame
FIFY
badboy
Hall of Fame
Whoops. I knew I should have taken that bet! It was for $10,000 right?
badboy
Hall of Fame
Thanks for updating me as I rarely check. When I do it's usually to tease those in front of me. When I first saw that I thought what the heck is he talking about? And then I thought somebody changed my username to tease me.
Thorn
Dirty Old Man
I don't get it
You can also include the media. Supposedly, the Chargers GM went to high school with Daboll and they hired Staley. Saleh supposedly had ties to the Detroit area and ended up with the Jets.
Agents, players, front offices and media are leaking, spreading disinformation and until formal announcements are made, it's really a pointless discussion.
That's why I don't understand why some are getting so worked up about the shenanigans on Kirby. They will do whatever the hell they want to do. Then based on if they like or hate the move, the fans will then push their own "creative" narratives and conspiracy theories.
Yep, it looks like Bienemy is going to get the job. Cal's Cucked in DW4's corner and the Texans will continue to be a loser org. The lost decade.
I'm holding him to the same standard that BOB was held too.
2 yrs.
Yep it sure does appear this way.
Even though he's friends with Caserio he refused to Cuck for DW4.
He will have a job next yr if Allen continues to improve.
The Texans are going to hire Bienemy and they will get what they deserve.
whodknee
Working Class Hero
I'll bet 90 percent of the people on here don't know what the word really means
ATXtexanfan
Hall of Fame
Why didn't DW4 just color OB, or color Easterby?
Supposedly, he still wants Tim Kelly around so maybe he ran out of colors after coloring Kelly.
SnakeEyes
Under NRG
Decim8
Veteran
So we have Zach Wilson and tua??? No thanks need more 1st round picks
Absolutely not.
No want for Tua, particularly if the preferred (imo anyway) Zach Wilson is incoming.
The rest is simply not whatsoever enough.
And giving up a 4th?
NFW
I'm going to wait to see if he wants the job before I wish him any ill will.
For all we know he's begging Reid to let him stay one more year, "please Andy. Please don't make me go."
Just imagine if he was a LT
whodknee
Working Class Hero
It's all about the Benjamins . No other team has wanted him. He is probably house shopping as we speak
badboy
Hall of Fame
Jets 2-1 and Dolphins 3-1 to land #4.
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Odds Of Texans Trade Of QB Deshaun?
What once seemed like a pipe dream for other NFL teams - and in Houston, a nightmare - has suddenly become more and more realistic.
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We don't know no other team wanted him.
We know no other team wanted to wait until February to hire a coach.
True. But, what is the fun in waiting when you can start gathering slings and arrows to build a narrative you can copy and paste for the next 2-4 years?
Sounds like a pretty cucky thing to do.