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- Thread starter EllisUnit
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I even starched my socks
I hope they feel it...
Jermaine
Practice Squad
True on that
Jermaine
Practice Squad
Not with this quarterback
you need your sleep ma savage
Jermaine
Practice Squad
Bench his ass real talk they need to stop making excuse and his ass do to this not college football this the big boy league
EllisUnit
Vote RED!!!
See not all is wasted.
PapaL
Loose Screw
Hahaha you're so stooooooopid TK! Thanks for the laugh. I needed that.
Hervoyel
BUENO!
Seriously, if you imagine one of those Yoda "Hmmmmmmm?" sounds at random points in it that's vintage Yoda right there!
Which is a good point. In college, you know the players have to take what the coach says as gospel, & move on. Coach comes in & says, "You didn't this... you didn't that... you didn't win."
I wonder what it's like when the Texans get with their coaches. Is it a one way dialogue kind of thing, or are the players allowed to say, "We can't win if you have us doing this, or that... I understand when we're in this, I still need to do that, but I'm not particularly good at doing that... You need to figure a way for me to do this... something I can do."
Texian
Hall of Fame
The suckage will continue in to next year. Osweiler cap hit goes from $12MM to $19MM. The Texans start out in 2017 in the bottom 25% of teams with available salary cap space (#26 w/ approx. $9MM). If the Texans re-sign Wilfork to his $5MM contract the cap gets worse. Duane Brown offers the most from a cap casualty release however hard to see how Texans can take a step forward at that position. A step back is a more likely scenario, especially with this collective management brain.
The Plain and Simple: If you start out as an 8-8 team with virtually no salary cap room available for improvement then a repeat performance of 2016 in 2017 is a very likely scenario, provided teams with much larger salary cap dollars available don't make considerably better improvements from the year before.
Example of how this Works: Bill Belichick and the New England Patriots will WIN Super Bowl 51 because Belichick was able to go out and sign 4 former 1st RD draft picks as free agents prior to the start of the 2016 season.
The Plain and Simple: If you start out as an 8-8 team with virtually no salary cap room available for improvement then a repeat performance of 2016 in 2017 is a very likely scenario, provided teams with much larger salary cap dollars available don't make considerably better improvements from the year before.
Example of how this Works: Bill Belichick and the New England Patriots will WIN Super Bowl 51 because Belichick was able to go out and sign 4 former 1st RD draft picks as free agents prior to the start of the 2016 season.
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Wolfiegrrl
Fan of NFC Seahawks & AFC Texans
I'm just baffled by the coaching staff's (read obrien's) stubborness to adjust the game plan for his players. Three years in and this guy acts like he has the answer, but comes up short. Make adjustments. I'm tired of Houston coaches not adjusting their scheme to help a team succeed.
Hervoyel
BUENO!
Why in the world would we want to resign Wilfork? It's time for him to hang them up and host a show on the food network.
For that matter when you go to Over The Cap and look at what we pay Kareem Jackson for what we get out of the bum it breaks your heart to think that we wasted a first round pick on him and are paying him $6 million plus for the next few years. That website will break your heart if you're a Texans fan.
For that matter when you go to Over The Cap and look at what we pay Kareem Jackson for what we get out of the bum it breaks your heart to think that we wasted a first round pick on him and are paying him $6 million plus for the next few years. That website will break your heart if you're a Texans fan.
Agree with you on Wilfork, but why call KJ a bum?
Hervoyel
BUENO!
Anybody could have done that. Hell I bet the Texans could go out right now and sign 4 former first round draft picks as free agents. Jamarcus Russell would probably come and sign for a couple of cheeseburgers and Brian Bosworth I hear will work for food.
Belichik not only has the money to do that he knows which ones are worth it and can get them to produce. Give the coaching staff here all the money the ask for and they'd still be trying to figure out how to score a TD in something other than garbage time.
Texian
Hall of Fame
It really is a classical example of poor salary cap management (or even a lack thereof).
But you sure are enjoying yourself.
Wolfiegrrl
Fan of NFC Seahawks & AFC Texans
I'm just baffled by the coaching staff's (read obrien's) stubborness to adjust the game plan for his players. Three years in and this guy acts like he has the answer, but comes up short. Make adjustments. I'm tired of Houston coaches not adjusting their scheme to help a team succeed.
...can see that the sky is still falling according to Texans fans so I will.........
TxnsJuggernaut
Veteran
The way I see this is there is a lot of blame to go around. However this team too often has little to no heart and the offensive play calling and execution are terrible.
Brock gets so nervous behind center when there is plenty of time to step into his throws and throw with some accuracy and he throws wounded ducks.
Coach O'Brien is a big part of the problem as well. I thought George Godsey was better at calling the plays than coach O'Brien. Our offense the first two weeks of the season seemed to be headed in the right direction before the head coach decided he needed to call the plays. He is predictable and coaches the games as afraid of defensive pressure as Brock plays afraid of it.
The thing is the O-line is not as bad as these two idiots are making them seem. There were plenty of snaps where Brock had time to complete passes. If our recievers are not getting open it is not due to a lack of talent. Of coarse when they have obviouly been open Brock throws bricks. We should be 3-4 as opposed to 4-3 record wise. We are just lucky the rest of our division seems to be poorly coached and as weak as us.
The defense has held up well considering the ineptitude of Brock and the offense. However that is because our secondary has been our strength. However they can't be expected to cover forever and outside of Whitley Mercilus there is very little pressure being put on opposing quarterbacks. The only reason we haven't been spanked worse is because our secondary has kept games closer than they otherwise would be.
Brock gets so nervous behind center when there is plenty of time to step into his throws and throw with some accuracy and he throws wounded ducks.
Coach O'Brien is a big part of the problem as well. I thought George Godsey was better at calling the plays than coach O'Brien. Our offense the first two weeks of the season seemed to be headed in the right direction before the head coach decided he needed to call the plays. He is predictable and coaches the games as afraid of defensive pressure as Brock plays afraid of it.
The thing is the O-line is not as bad as these two idiots are making them seem. There were plenty of snaps where Brock had time to complete passes. If our recievers are not getting open it is not due to a lack of talent. Of coarse when they have obviouly been open Brock throws bricks. We should be 3-4 as opposed to 4-3 record wise. We are just lucky the rest of our division seems to be poorly coached and as weak as us.
The defense has held up well considering the ineptitude of Brock and the offense. However that is because our secondary has been our strength. However they can't be expected to cover forever and outside of Whitley Mercilus there is very little pressure being put on opposing quarterbacks. The only reason we haven't been spanked worse is because our secondary has kept games closer than they otherwise would be.
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TxnsJuggernaut
Veteran
Lamar was playing well early but he had a minor injury and they held him back and gave reps that normally would be his to AB. The problem is not a talent one it is a coaching problem first and foremost.
silvrhand
All Pro
Ugh where to start..
- front seven got gashed..
- cushing has no lateral movement anymore.. he's done
- our safetys are well still not that good.. swearinger looks good in ARZ :\
- we can't get pressure without JJ still.. what the fck..
- our offensive line is decimated with injuries..
- our secondary is well decimated with injuries.
- JJO is done though
- I can't stand watching our CBs play 5+ yards off the ball on goal line defense.. someone get )(*@$(@ fired for this finally.
- Miller not sure he can hold up to inside running, he's going down pretty easy after contact, but he never should be an inside guy..
- Blue looks kind of spunky this year, did he lose weight he's hitting the hole fast.
- Brock.. well he can't hit the broad side of the barn..
- front seven got gashed..
- cushing has no lateral movement anymore.. he's done
- our safetys are well still not that good.. swearinger looks good in ARZ :\
- we can't get pressure without JJ still.. what the fck..
- our offensive line is decimated with injuries..
- our secondary is well decimated with injuries.
- JJO is done though
- I can't stand watching our CBs play 5+ yards off the ball on goal line defense.. someone get )(*@$(@ fired for this finally.
- Miller not sure he can hold up to inside running, he's going down pretty easy after contact, but he never should be an inside guy..
- Blue looks kind of spunky this year, did he lose weight he's hitting the hole fast.
- Brock.. well he can't hit the broad side of the barn..
TxnsJuggernaut
Veteran
The score doesn't tell the whole story. It was worse than the score would indicate. We should have lost by more.
I think it's a little early to start throwing blame around, or going into the drolls of salary cap mismanagement.
We don't know what this team is yet. They're not good enough to beat a good team..... yet. We know that, but this will be a different team after January 1. A better team hopefully, a worse team maybe... but we won't know until then.
Those guys are trying to get better every week. They're not playing techmo bowl & eating cheetos from Monday to Saturday. Then strapping on the pads come Sunday.
TripleTap
Dead Wood
This will be a different team after Jan 1?
No. Not after Jan 1, or any time, unless there's a wholesale redo from the top down. And I mean ownership down. Owner is guilty of malpractice with this team from jump street. Coach needs replacing. GM is a joke 3/4 of the time. No wonder we're a laughingstock.
No. Not after Jan 1, or any time, unless there's a wholesale redo from the top down. And I mean ownership down. Owner is guilty of malpractice with this team from jump street. Coach needs replacing. GM is a joke 3/4 of the time. No wonder we're a laughingstock.
So I guess we won't see you around here when our win streak starts?
TxnsJuggernaut
Veteran
I know they are trying but I look for signs of improvement week to week and I am not seeing it. Our quarterback is a pu**y and our head coach has no business calling offensive plays. George Godsey was doing a better job.
I would love to live in your world of optimism but I see nothing but the worse up ahead based on the situation at hand.
So to me there is plenty of blame to go around and I stand proudly by that statement.
Texian
Hall of Fame
Oh well whatever....Cal is going to be alright...
I finally figured out who Texian is.........
He was part of the Consortium to bring football back to LA when we were awarded the franchise and is still butt-hurt over it!
Will a multibillion inheritance and a pretty woman under my arm, I could get used to the Oh Well Whatever lifestyle.
I'd still want my franchise to win, because winning is good for business. But when business is already good, why rock the boat with bold and potentially risky decisions?
Texian
Hall of Fame
Will a multibillion inheritance and a pretty woman under my arm, I could get used to the Oh Well Whatever lifestyle.
I'd still want my franchise to win, because winning is good for business. But when business is already good, why rock the boat with bold and potentially risky decisions?
I have no doubt that they want to win. They just don't know how it's done, Cal more so than Bob. Cal is one of the main primary decision makers when it comes to player personnel, yet he doesn't attend the Combine or Pro days. What is he basing his decisions on? And I agree, if you're eating Wagyu steaks every night (see my 42"waist) and chasing it down with Opus One then yes indeed why rock that boat. All is well, life is good! So we didn't win this year, Oh well whatever, we will do better and get them next year because we know how to fix this.
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TK we are THREE years into O'Brien's tenure here.
If we don't know what O'Brien's team is supposed to be by now, when will we, exactly?
I don't make it a habit of defending Bill O'Brien, I'm not a fan.
Look, we can win the next six games for all we know. Then this board is going to be talking about Super Bowl, applauding McNair's team building acumen, & voting players to the pro bowl.
But we lose that seventh game & we'll be bringing up David Carr again, wanting to fire everyone & run McNair out of town.
texanhead08
All Pro
Texans are lucky Gary Kubiak has class because if Rick Smith threw me under the bus like he did Gary I would have tried to score 70 on the Texans last night.
Texecutioner
Hall of Fame
Rick Smith threw Gary under the bus? Lol!
What was he supposed to do, resign and ask Mcnair to keep Gary instead since Gary coached the worst team in football with the players that Gary told Rick to draft?
Speedy
Former Yeller Dweller
Dude seriously. Enough of the we won't know what this team is in 5 weeks BS. What they've done now and in the last 7 games is what there is. If it takes you longer to process the information provided so far, then so be it. But if your go to is always wait until January then what the hell is the point of having a message board and talking about shit?
Right now, with what I've seen in 7 games, they'd be hard pressed to win another one. I won't care what they look like in December until December gets here and I've seen what they've done. If they go on a 9 game win streak, fantastic! It doesn't mean I've got to eat crow because I'm commenting on the shit show they're throwing out there now, because right now, they are what they are.
And yeah, none of it means anything tomorrow. They go play the next game and nothing they've done in the past will have anything to do with that game. I hope it does start clicking for Osweiler because that will only mean good things for my team. But through 7 games, nearly half an NFL season, I haven't seen it yet. And I think that's enough games to look at his body of work and see there hasn't been much improvement, if any. If that changes in 2 months, great, but right now, it's not there.
Yeah, there's a lot of football left, but enough of the let's hold off to see what they look like in 2 months crap. We'll talk about that in 2 months. Right now, they're not a very good football team and Osweiler is not a very good QB.
Will a multibillion inheritance and a pretty woman under my arm, I could get used to the Oh Well Whatever lifestyle.
I'd still want my franchise to win, because winning is good for business. But when business is already good, why rock the boat with bold and potentially risky decisions?
Cal the ladies man.
The Texans org, where traumatic will not happen.
At what point does the they just dont know how to win excuse go out the window and the fanbase realize what some already know. The Texans making their $$$$ comes 1st and foremost, winning is probably #3 or #4 on the Texans to do list.
I will say that McNair bought his son the ultimate toy.
Such is the nature of a myopic and often fickle fanbase that last sniffed a chance to even play in a championship game almost four decades ago. (Crazy that Luv Ya Blue was years before many of you were even born!)
And fans can front-run all they want, but many of us know this team is not getting past NE, or Denver, or Pittsburgh, in the playoffs.
So enjoy the ride, but my advice would be to keep expectations reasonable.
TxnsJuggernaut
Veteran
This team has talent. Yes I realize that there are plenty of Rick Smith haters but I think we are better talent wise than the showing of our team in the last 5 weeks.
Brock would be demoted if this team didn't have so much invested in him. However I doubt it makes a huge difference who we start at quarterback. We would still have coach O'Brien in control of the offense. Of coarse the other quarterbacks would do more because I doubt they would get so panicked and rushed when a defender is within four or five steps of them.
If this season falls apart I think we really need to evaluate fairly the job of our head coach and all our coaches and determine fairly whether they keep their jobs.
As of now this team will be lucky to finish the season with a 500 record.
Time to get coach O'Briens attention in regards to the job he is doing so far.
Brock would be demoted if this team didn't have so much invested in him. However I doubt it makes a huge difference who we start at quarterback. We would still have coach O'Brien in control of the offense. Of coarse the other quarterbacks would do more because I doubt they would get so panicked and rushed when a defender is within four or five steps of them.
If this season falls apart I think we really need to evaluate fairly the job of our head coach and all our coaches and determine fairly whether they keep their jobs.
As of now this team will be lucky to finish the season with a 500 record.
Time to get coach O'Briens attention in regards to the job he is doing so far.