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JCTexan said:
Ok, then wouldn't it be better just to say you don't think Gruden will return to coaching? Or do you think he would return to coach a more glamorous team?
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Gruden is the new Madden IMO. I think it's a longshot for him to get back into coaching and a longer shot for him to come to a place like Houston. I think if he were to come back into coaching it would be to a city that gets top billing on Sportscenter everyday.

Bob McNair pulled the switch on the coaching carousel during the season yesterday and took third place to LA getting Kobe Bryant back and New York NOT getting Robinson Cano.
 
The Pencil Neck said:
Actually, I think the process is open to more than just those I listed...
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Open schmopen.

You really think McNair will conduct an "exhaustive search"?

They'll bring in two or three people for cursory, going-through-the-motions interviews. And they'll let it be known they're interested in guys like David Shaw.

But Boardroom Bob will hire Lovie Smith or someone uber-safe. He'll promote it as a bold, progressive move.

It's just not in him to bring in the kind of coach who'll really shake things up. McNair wants things tweaked, not overhauled.
 
Ya I think that is the best choice. Shaw is young he has experience and is intelligent and innovative like McNair is looking for. I also see Teddy being drafted and Shaw grooming him will be nice
 
Bleed_Blu_Red said:
Here is a Link I read earlier about Whisenhunt and gives a hint the Texans being interested in him...
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I like Whiz for his time with the Steelers. But I don't think the Texans should be hiring someone who was fired by the Cardinals.

A few astute comments following the profootballtalk story:

-- "I never understood the retread coach appeal. Yeah, so he was a head coach before. So what!" Get an up and coming coordinator who is hungry and you will be better off in the long run."

-- "He struggled to figure out the quarterback situation in Arizona so why would a team that can’t figure out it’s quarterback situation want to hire him?"

-- Whiz does alright when he is handed a franchise QB, a la Roethlisberger, Warner or Rivers. When left to his own instincts and intuition, there are few worse at evaluating QB talent than Whiz."

Note: He has a worse career record (45-51) than Kubiak.
 
drs23 said:
I guess I didn't make my point clear. You just said what I meant, just more clearly. Thanks.



See above. I think we have the talent to compete with any team with a few shortcomings addressed. Some would say "many shortcomings" and there could be some merit there. It just depends on one's perspective. Glass 1/2 full or empty kinda thing.

Bottom line is I hope the braintrust, whoever the hell that is, knocks it outta the park. Going on record here that I don't believe Lovie Smith is that guy.

Most say it will never happen but I can't think of a better pilot for this vessel than David Shaw. Probably won't happen but that's the basket my eggs are in.
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Wow, miracles never cease

We are in total agreement
 
Texn4life said:
Money talks my friend. Not only that, but the guy currently lives in Tampa and is outside in those elements all the time. The weather is the last thing he'd be worried about in regards to Houston.
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Yes indeed, Money does talk.

Which is why Jon Gruden will never be the HC of the Texans.
 
steelbtexan said:
Yes indeed, Money does talk.

Which is why Jon Gruden will never be the HC of the Texans.
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Pretty sure you misread my post. I was responding to his comment that Houston is too hot and not glamarous enough to attract Gruden. I think that's ridiculous because if enough money was thrown his way I'm sure he'd bite in a heartbeat.

Now will that happen? Probably not, but the guy is a coach and he loves it to his core. I think he's just waiting for the right situation. I actually think being in the booth studying all of these different offenses the way he does is going to make Gruden a better coach.
 
Shaw would be a good hire.

But what was in that nfl.com article that "advances the story" beyond what we know already?

All McClain said was that "...the Texans, I know, will check him out as well as Lovie Smith and some others."

That's a revelation? If the Texans didn't "check out" Shaw it would be a dereliction of duty.

Now, if McClain had reported that Shaw is the leading candidate, then that's news.
 
Mr. White said:
Gruden is the new Madden IMO. I think it's a longshot for him to get back into coaching and a longer shot for him to come to a place like Houston. I think if he were to come back into coaching it would be to a city that gets top billing on Sportscenter everyday.

Bob McNair pulled the switch on the coaching carousel during the season yesterday and took third place to LA getting Kobe Bryant back and New York NOT getting Robinson Cano.
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Because Kobe is easily a bigger story. Houston is a top 8 market and its the NFL, not NBA.
 
Have ya'll seen the panoramic shots of Palo Alto? Now dont get me wrong, I think this franchise is the best thing since sliced bread, but it would be really hard to leave that just for more money IMO.
 
Tolar's Ghost said:
Shaw would be a good hire.

But what was in that nfl.com article that "advances the story" beyond what we know already?

All McClain said was that "...the Texans, I know, will check him out as well as Lovie Smith and some others."

That's a revelation? If the Texans didn't "check out" Shaw it would be a dereliction of duty.

Now, if McClain had reported that Shaw is the leading candidate, then that's news.
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I posted the link because as much as a lot of us want David Shaw there was never any reports the Texans where looking at him till now. So far all I've heard about is Lovie Smith,Jon Gruden and Shanahan. Also most people ruled him out because they had no clue he had Nfl experience therefore that's a plus for him in my book.
 
Bleed_Blu_Red said:
Here is a Link I read earlier about Whisenhunt and gives a hint the Texans being interested in him.

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.co...en-whisenhunt-to-draw-head-coaching-interest/
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However, Whisenhunt also had some bad seasons in Arizona, and he struggled to get the quarterback position figured out after Kurt Warner retired. (And even when he had Warner, it took Whisenhunt way too long to figure out that Warner was better than Matt Leinart.)


This quote was gold.

kremis says:
Dec 7, 2013 2:43 PM
Well fortunately Houston does not have a QB problem so he should be just fine.
 
Jon Gruden, YES

Lovie Smith, NO...but "analysts" seem to think he'd be a good fit.

Wade Phillips, NO

Darrell Bevell, YES

Gus Malzahn, Just signed a new contract with Auburn

Bill O’Brien, NO

Todd Bowles, NO

Pete Carmichael, NO

David Shaw, YES

Greg Roman, YES

Raymond Horton, NO


Too bad Dungey has given up coaching, but from what many people believe to be what we really need in Houston; Bill Cowher's name has been brought up many times the last 48 hours. YES....I believe it is the type of personality we need on this team. Some discipline, some fire and enthusiasm. Cowher makes his players take responsibility for their play, holds them accountable. If you played for a man that holds you accountable for your play, then you either play better or give your position up to the new guy.

A point was made that nearly every starter from last year was an "automatic" starter this season. This is how the 'Good 'Ol Boy" system works, and also how it fails.
 
Houston's decision-makers have spoken with former Chicago Bears coach Lovie Smith, a source with knowledge of the team's thinking told Rapoport. We knew that was coming after Texans owner Bob McNair told reporters last week that Smith was in the mix.
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From nfl.com
 
Rey said:
Just heard on espn that gruden, dungy and cowher have basically all said no.
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I don't buy Gruden a bit. Dungy has retired. I still think Cowher has one more coaching gig in him.
 
The list SUCKS!!!!!!!!!
Shanahan?? Sick of this old system want something new. Whisenhunt????
Wasn't smart enough to start warner over lienert. Sumlin??? Will his offense work in the NFL??? I know his defense won't!!!! Smith??? Just doesn't do anything for me.


http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/writer...h-ken-whisenhunt-kevin-sumlin-on-texans-radar
via http://cbssportsapp.com





Headhunter Jed Hughes is running the search. He already reached out to several prominent former head coaches over the weekend, several of whom were not interested in the opening.

Super super bummed if Cowher is one of those who turned it down.
 
Whisenhunt wouldn't be the worst if it means we're drafting Teddy, but I'd rank him below Lovie in terms of uninspiring choices. Still holding out for a guy like Bowles, Horton, or Shaw.
 
bhsman said:
Whisenhunt wouldn't be the worst if it means we're drafting Teddy, but I'd rank him below Lovie in terms of uninspiring choices. Still holding out for a guy like Bowles, Horton, or Shaw.
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Wade Phillips will end up getting the job watch...
 
Honoring Earl 34 said:
If the Texans hire Shanahan , they are dumber than I thought . That's like someone telling you their a vegan and won't eat beef so you suggest the pork chops . :voodoo:
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I can't believe he's even in the conversation right now. The only positive is that this would be the easiest transition.
 
Just throwing something out there for thoughts:

HC - Brian Billick
DC - Keith Butler is current Steelers LB coach
OC - Pete Carmichael (Asst Head Coach) is current Saints offensive coordinator
 
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