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Super Mario not so super so far

Buffalo Bills say: We don't know why Mario claims to have injuries that he doesn't have or why he wears a cast on gameday. We just know that we are paying him a $^!+load of money and we let him do whatever he has to do to try and become worth it. We suspect we been screwed...

Houston say: Hahahahahaahahahahahahhahahaaha!!!
 
Boy they sure were all mouthy when Mario signed.

How many sound bites or tweets did the Bills staff or players produce, talking about how tough they were going to be with Mario??? LMAO.

Bills can suffer. I know we sure did, specifically our loss to them in playoffs. Yeah, they can suffer for all I care. And to know our former player is draining them of $100 million? Icing on the cake.
 
HJam72 said:
Buffalo Bills say: We don't know why Mario claims to have injuries that he doesn't have or why he wears a cast on gameday. We just know that we are paying him a $^!+load of money and we let him do whatever he has to do to try and become worth it. We suspect we been screwed...

Houston say: Hahahahahaahahahahahahhahahaaha!!!
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pretty much........LOL
 
Goldensilence said:
To piggyback on Chris' Post via ESPN

http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/8474280/sources-nfl-checks-injury-buffalo-bills-mario-williams

Looks like his cover story for part of his struggles is at least gaining league attention in a very unfavorable way.

If anyone watched countdown's "eye on the Sky" segment this morning they showed Mario getting man handled by....Gronk in N.E. ... ONE one ONE. If Mario is supposedly an elite pass rusher should never be able to be taken on by a TE.
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Didn't they show him getting manhandled by a TE last week also?
 
Txn_in_Oki said:
Didn't they show him getting manhandled by a TE last week also?
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From what I remember I know it showed Gronk (who isn't exactly known for his blocking prowess) taking Williams out of the play completely, twice.

All I know is this for any elite outside puss rusher you should never been able just put a TE on him and be ok....ever. You could never do that to Terrell Suggs, Peppers, Clay Matthews,Osi, etc etc.

Maybe as another poster pointed out about Whitner's time in Buffalo vs going to the Niners saying the staff is clueless is valid. I mean they do have some talent on the line or at least have sunk some high picks and money into it.
 
The best moment of Mario's time in Houston was on 4/28/2006 when this board nearly imploded when the news broke that the pick would not be VY or Reggie.

:sarcasm:
 
I just hope the Bills don't go into this offseason thinking they need to hire Wade Phillips as HC to come and fix their 100 million dollar man.
 
Lance Zierlein ‏@LanceZierlein
More than 1 very smart football person liked Mario as a free agent, but I think they all simply fall in love with size and potential.

Mario looks stiffer and slower than at any point in his career and his patented "run into blocker and stay engaged" is back

The Bills are going to rue the contract they gave Mario Williams. Watched 3 games on him and he looks worse than at any time w/ HOU
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• Mario Williams said he doesn’t care what we think about his performance. Truthfully, there hasn’t been a performance to care about. Let’s call it now — this guy is soft, and the Bills have apparently whiffed to the tune of $100 million. He was invisible yet again. He said in the locker room he needs to get better. You know what, he was supposed to already be better when he got here. He was supposed to be one of the best in the league. He’s not, and the team he left, Houston, is now 6-1 without him.
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http://www.democratandchronicle.com.../310210077/Maiorana-Excuses-losing-grow-tired

This is where we mention that defensive end Mario Williams, Nix’s $100-million investment that’s looking like Facebook stock, was nowhere to be found in terms of rushing the quarterback, the job he was hired to do in crunch-time situations like this.

Williams finished with two tackles and as many zeros across the rest of his stat line as there are on his paychecks. A guy named Kyle Moore had a better game with a half sack and two QB hits.
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As for Stupor Mario, I’m wondering if Nix and his personnel men did enough vetting of the man’s personality and resume to decide he was worth the price of 20 players. He gets single blocked most all of the time and taking a leadership role doesn’t seem to be in his nature.

“I don’t care about your expectations,’’ he said to the media gathered near his locker stall. “I don’t care about anybody’s expectations.’’

Wow, Mario. Maybe it would please you to know that our expectations of you and the Bills have changed a lot in seven weeks. They have returned to the place they have been for a decade: low.
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http://www.democratandchronicle.com...ey=tab|mostpopular|text|SPORTS&nclick_check=1
 
Playoffs said:
http://www.democratandchronicle.com.../310210077/Maiorana-Excuses-losing-grow-tired

http://www.democratandchronicle.com...ey=tab|mostpopular|text|SPORTS&nclick_check=1
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“I don’t care about your expectations,’’ he said to the media gathered near his locker stall. “I don’t care about anybody’s expectations.’’

Wow, Mario. Maybe it would please you to know that our expectations of you and the Bills have changed a lot in seven weeks. They have returned to the place they have been for a decade: low.
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And there's the Mario we know so very well: The non-leader who is out only for himself and to hell with anybody who dares mention the "E word"...Expectations.

Couldn't have gone to a better team, the Bills. Reverse curse. :goodluck:
 
Not so subtle callout of MW by teammate:

Chris Kelsay: Buffalo Bills Not "Playing Hard Every Snap"
"You watch the film, and not everybody was playing hard every snap, and that's unacceptable. ...

"If you aren't going to give us everything you've got, you shouldn't be on the field. I don't care who you are..."

Those are strong words from the longest-tenured Bill. Speculation immediately will start in Buffalo about who he's talking about, and two big-name players on the defensive line -- Marcell Dareus and Mario Williams -- haven't played well this season. Not many Bills defenders have played well; they are 31st in yards allowed and points allowed. It's not easy to give up 35 points to the Titans.

"You're only as good as the effort you put forth. I don't care who it is," Kelsay said. "I'd take Mario Williams at full health and full speed probably over anybody else in the league. At the same time, I'd take Sean Ferguson, who we cut, over a guy that's playing 50 percent, and I think our coaches would, too. The playmakers have to make plays, and the way you do that is giving all-out effort every play."
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I kinda thought once Mario got paid he may slack off some, but I never expected a Albert Haynesworth type fall. Now I wonder when his little wrist heals if he ever comes back to at least playing good every third game. nah
 
Playoffs said:
http://www.democratandchronicle.com.../310210077/Maiorana-Excuses-losing-grow-tired
“I don’t care about your expectations,’’ he said to the media gathered near his locker stall. “I don’t care about anybody’s expectations.’’
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http://www.democratandchronicle.com...ey=tab|mostpopular|text|SPORTS&nclick_check=1
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I know some of you think it's a small thing. I think it's huge. A Gary Kubiak player would never say anything like that to the media. It makes it very difficult for a coach to bring in a new culture when they are having to deal with these kind of things.
 
Fiddler said:
I know some of you think it's a small thing. I think it's huge. A Gary Kubiak player would never say anything like that to the media. It makes it very difficult for a coach to bring in a new culture when they are having to deal with these kind of things.
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To a certain extent a player has to be like that...these guys don't get to where they are without that kind of attitude....meaning having their own expectations of themselves rather than what the media thinks.......however, you absolutely never come out & say it...

At the end of the day If the contract he signed there hastens the move of that franchise from buffalo to LA....hey:shrug:
 
• Mario Williams said he doesn’t care what we think about his performance. Truthfully, there hasn’t been a performance to care about. Let’s call it now — this guy is soft, and the Bills have apparently whiffed to the tune of $100 million. He was invisible yet again. He said in the locker room he needs to get better. You know what, he was supposed to already be better when he got here. He was supposed to be one of the best in the league. He’s not, and the team he left, Houston, is now 6-1 without him.
http://www.democratandchronicle.com/...ing-grow-tired


THANK YOU RICK SMITH.
 
Wolf6151 said:
• Mario Williams said he doesn’t care what we think about his performance. Truthfully, there hasn’t been a performance to care about. Let’s call it now — this guy is soft, and the Bills have apparently whiffed to the tune of $100 million. He was invisible yet again. He said in the locker room he needs to get better. You know what, he was supposed to already be better when he got here. He was supposed to be one of the best in the league. He’s not, and the team he left, Houston, is now 6-1 without him.
http://www.democratandchronicle.com/...ing-grow-tired


THANK YOU RICK SMITH.
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Why in the world does Rick Smith get thanked for that? Rick Smith wanted him back. Rick Smith doesn't deserve any credit for not resigning one of the worst deals in NFL history.

Hell 90% of this site desperately wanted Rick Smith to sign Mario where he'd be our problem for several years.
 
Texecutioner said:
Why in the world does Rick Smith get thanked for that? Rick Smith wanted him back. Rick Smith doesn't deserve any credit for not resigning one of the worst deals in NFL history.

Hell 90% of this site desperately wanted Rick Smith to sign Mario where he'd be our problem for several years.
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Rick Smith did not want him back... not at that price. Your post is unfair to what actually happened. What somebody says in front of a camera ("we want Mario back") and what actually happens behind closed doors is two seperate things. He said all the P.R. things in front of a camera, but never backed up a brinks truck. If this was someone like Watt, Rick Smith would've moved heaven and earth and Duane Brown or Matt Schaub would've been franchised and the other probably would've been a FA. Yes Smith would've taken him back.. at the right price. When his street value went through the roof (same thing happened with Nnambi) Smith cut bait and I thank him for that.

Being a good G.M. is like being a good card player.. you have to maximize your returns and know when to hold'em and when to fold'em. Rick Smith laid down his cards and folded on Mario Williams, so yes.. he does get credit for not signing one of the worst deals in NFL history.
 
Mr teX said:
To a certain extent a player has to be like that...these guys don't get to where they are without that kind of attitude....meaning having their own expectations of themselves rather than what the media thinks.......however, you absolutely never come out & say it...

At the end of the day If the contract he signed there hastens the move of that franchise from buffalo to LA....hey:shrug:
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Highly doubt Buffalo gets moved they're still well supported and there's some good history there.

If I had money on who would get moved to LA its on Tarpsvi.... err Jacksonville. Little history, no length of time in NFL, blackout and attendance problems... yeah. I think it's a matter of time before they are moved.

Now... do I think LA deserves a team... HELL NO.
 
Carr Bombed said:
Rick Smith did not want him back... not at that price. Your post is unfair to what actually happened. What somebody says in front of a camera ("we want Mario back") and what actually happens behind closed doors is two seperate things. He said all the P.R. things in front of a camera, but never backed up a brinks truck. If this was someone like Watt, Rick Smith would've moved heaven and earth and Duane Brown or Matt Schaub would've been franchised and the other probably would've been a FA. Yes Smith would've taken him back.. at the right price. When his street value went through the roof (same thing happened with Nnambi) Smith cut bait and I thank him for that.

Being a good G.M. is like being a good card player.. you have to maximize your returns and know when to hold'em and when to fold'em. Rick Smith laid down his cards and folded on Mario Williams, so yes.. he does get credit for not signing one of the worst deals in NFL history.
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Not fair my ass. I said that he didn't deserve a thank you for making a no-brainer decision which was to not make one of the worst deals in NFL history that the Bills made. He did express strong interest in wanting to bring him back. I don't care what physco babble you want to speculate that he felt behind closed doors. Not signing Mario was an easy decision. A very easy one. We had the best defense we ever fielded without him in the lineup. It would have been horrifically stupid to sign Mario at even a good price after how well this team played without Mario. Plus, it became very clear that the Texans were in cap hell any way. So, to suggest he deserves credit here is being totally disengenious.
 
Texecutioner said:
Not fair my ass. I said that he didn't deserve a thank you for making a no-brainer decision which was to not make one of the worst deals in NFL history that the Bills made. He did express strong interest in wanting to bring him back. I don't care what physco babble you want to speculate that he felt behind closed doors. Not signing Mario was an easy decision. A very easy one. We had the best defense we ever fielded without him in the lineup. It would have been horrifically stupid to sign Mario at even a good price after how well this team played without Mario. Plus, it became very clear that the Texans were in cap hell any way. So, to suggest he deserves credit here is being totally disengenious.
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Hey *******, what I typed wasn't "physco babble". Just because people don't want to be so condesending as you towards the way Rick Smith handled the situation or doesn't agree with your opinion doesn't give you the right to be a dick.

Rick Smith did NOTHING WRONG. He did his due diligence and when Mario priced himself out of where Smith felt he was worth, Smith cut bait. That isn't psycho babble.. it's what actually happened. Rick Smith handled the situation perfectly and I give him credit.. and this is coming from someone who never wanted to bring Mario back.
 
Sound familiar to anyone? Mario considering wrist surgery before his homecoming game.

Mario Williams said yesterday he didn’t care about anyone’s expectations.

Those expectations may be about to adjust downward.

According to Tim Graham of the Buffalo News, Williams is considering surgery on his left wrist during the bye week.

After signing a six-year contract this offseason worth up to $100 million, Williams has been good, not great. His 3.5 sacks are 32nd in the NFL, which is fine, except for those pesky expectations.

“I need to play better, and I need to get healthy,” Williams said after Sunday’s game. “It’s No. 1 on my point.

“I can say this and you can take it however you want to take it, but it really don’t matter to me. I really don’t care what you think. At the end of the day I know I need to get physically back into things so I’m not hesitating.”

The Bills didn’t comment on the report of surgery, but coach Chan Gailey has said he was vague about injuries on purpose. It was at least hurt enough to trigger a $20,000 fine for violating the league’s policy on reporting injuries.

“He’s the one that’s got to answer to that,” Gailey said. “I can’t tell you whether he’s being affected by it at all, or a little bit, or what it is. I can’t tell.”

If he has surgery and misses any time, it’ll be easy to tell. Then again, maybe it won’t.
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http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/category/rumor-mill/
 
Carr Bombed said:
Rick Smith did not want him back... not at that price. Your post is unfair to what actually happened. What somebody says in front of a camera ("we want Mario back") and what actually happens behind closed doors is two seperate things. He said all the P.R. things in front of a camera, but never backed up a brinks truck. If this was someone like Watt, Rick Smith would've moved heaven and earth and Duane Brown or Matt Schaub would've been franchised and the other probably would've been a FA. Yes Smith would've taken him back.. at the right price. When his street value went through the roof (same thing happened with Nnambi) Smith cut bait and I thank him for that.

Being a good G.M. is like being a good card player.. you have to maximize your returns and know when to hold'em and when to fold'em. Rick Smith laid down his cards and folded on Mario Williams, so yes.. he does get credit for not signing one of the worst deals in NFL history.
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Spot on, repped... Sometimes Tex has a bit of revisionist historian flowing through his veins!!
 
I haven't wished any ill will on Mario since he left. But if he suddenly undergoes surgery and conveniently misses the big homecoming party against the Texans, I will have to laugh. A lot.

But on the other hand, that would be coincidental, because he honestly doesn't "care about anybody's expectations." Even for "Judgment Day."
 
Maybe this will be his excuse for getting 1 tackle in his big homecoming debut? Then it'll show how tough he is for playing when he needed surgery but he played through pain? Might want to get his ovaries checked while they're looking at his limp wrist.
 
Is there a chance we could line up JJ Watt opposite of Mario for the first series?

I'd love to see JJ Watt block Mario and talk smack to him for one series. Wouldn't that be awesome? Watt was a former TE so I know he has some blocking skills. Talk about getting into Mario's head! LOL.
 
Come to think of it, since Watt was a TE at one time, I'd like to see us go with a Jumbo TE package that includes JJ Watt.

Can you imagine the look on the faces of the defensive players if that happened???
 
I was looking forward to seeing Mario again. Sounds like he's actually hurt. It would explain his play as of late. It seems he tries to often play through injuries and when he does people think he's using them as a excuse. There were times here he was hurt and looked bad likely because he was playing through a injury.

If it is a wrist it must be hard for him punch and push on a limpy wrist I could imagine that being a pretty huge factor in his play.

I don't believe that Mario is just content now that he has the money...I mean he was drafted on the old NFL rules and was paid from day one. I think Mario is just a player that is going to depend on his coach...good thing he went to a irrelevant team. I can't imagine anyone scoring on Chicago had he been smart and went there.
 
You don't think it's a little fishy he's getting some wrist surgery right before his big judgement day game? From what I'm gathering on the Bills board, he didn't complain at all about his wrist when he got 2 sacks against the Cardinals, it only pops up after a terrible non-impactful performance. Which he's had most of his time in Buffalo.
 
No I don't think it's fishy. Is he going to wait until after the game? Perhaps that last game he just decided enough was enough and he can't be effective for his team this way?
 
GP said:
Come to think of it, since Watt was a TE at one time, I'd like to see us go with a Jumbo TE package that includes JJ Watt.

Can you imagine the look on the faces of the defensive players if that happened???
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Ohh man I think your on to something, JJ would probably be one of the best TE's in the NFL also.
 
fiasco west said:
No I don't think it's fishy. Is he going to wait until after the game? Perhaps that last game he just decided enough was enough and he can't be effective for his team this way?
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Or he can man up and play through an injured wrist? Lots of players somehow play with their hands in a cast, especially defensive linemen and LB's. Hell, some even use it to their advantage.
 
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