Nike: Outfitters for the NFL and your Houston Texans

[majestrate]

I hope we never change. If you change, it means you are doing nothing more than diverting from a long-term strategy of building your brand identity.

30 years from now, the Texans logo and jersey design should still be the same and something people associate with the Texans when they see it. The Packers, the Cowboys, the Giants, and most recently the Jets (who have gone back to their old Jet logo) have all understood that you stick with a logo and a look...you farm it for all it's worth. Switching it up every five years (like the Seahawks do) affirms that they are more concerned with their image, trying to be relevant, when they should be concerned with winning instead.

An owner makes fans mad, too, when they have 12 different looking jerseys and are always having the fans buy the newest design. Seems cool when you're a young fan...as you get older, you realize you just want everything to look the same. I know I do, at least. The broad red collar is as funky as McNair wanted to get, obviously. He's not the poster child for radical change, either, so you'll be waiting a long time for a re-design of our stuff.

There's also the anticipation that we're going to start pulling in larger numbers of fans the more we succeed. So it would make more sense to have a great number of fans buy an old design, then go and redesign the look and sell the same types of merchandise twice in more than a few cases.

 

[GP]

The red collar kind of looks like in some countries when you get a prestigious medal and they have a ceremony and put the medal around your neck...it has a wide, red ribbon. LOL.

 

[nero THE zero]

I hope we never change. If you change, it means you are doing nothing more than diverting from a long-term strategy of building your brand identity.

30 years from now, the Texans logo and jersey design should still be the same and something people associate with the Texans when they see it. The Packers, the Cowboys, the Giants, and most recently the Jets (who have gone back to their old Jet logo) have all understood that you stick with a logo and a look...you farm it for all it's worth. Switching it up every five years (like the Seahawks do) affirms that they are more concerned with their image, trying to be relevant, when they should be concerned with winning instead.

An owner makes fans mad, too, when they have 12 different looking jerseys and are always having the fans buy the newest design. Seems cool when you're a young fan...as you get older, you realize you just want everything to look the same. I know I do, at least. The broad red collar is as funky as McNair wanted to get, obviously. He's not the poster child for radical change, either, so you'll be waiting a long time for a re-design of our stuff.

Winning and jersey scheme are totally independent of each other. It's fallacy to suggest that a jersey change has any effect, either way, on winning, whatsoever.

 

[GP]

There's also the anticipation that we're going to start pulling in larger numbers of fans the more we succeed. So it would make more sense to have a great number of fans buy an old design, then go and redesign the look and sell the same types of merchandise twice in more than a few cases.

Sure, it makes economic sense for a team to do this. I have no doubt this is why college teams are doing it--To generate extra revenue.

McNair is "old school" in the sense I do not see him ever tweaking the Texans look/style anytime soon. If ever.

He admires the Rooney family (Steelers), the Mara family (Giants), from what things he has said about them and how those two teams built legacies and fan bases...those two teams don't jack with their logo and their look/style. I would imagine he is paying close attention to those details.

McNair is not modern. He could give a rat's ass about our jersey and other items looking more trendy. If anything, he wants to build stability and longevity. Look no further than Gary Kubiak to support the theory. Everything McNair does is with the eye of long-term stability and longevity...re-designing the brand (the identity) is not a McNair thang. It messes with the paradigm.

 

[welsh texan]

Winning and jersey scheme are totally independent of each other. It's fallacy to suggest that a jersey change has any effect, either way, on winning, whatsoever.

Not too sure thats what GP was suggesting, think he meant relevance in terms of fashion and looking cool.

BTW, it has been shown that the colour of your teams' kit has an effect on their longterm success, with red being, by some distance, the best colour to wear to have a psychological edge on your opponent.
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/18344128

 

[GP]

Winning and jersey scheme are totally independent of each other. It's fallacy to suggest that a jersey change has any effect, either way, on winning, whatsoever.

Oh really? Wow.

So it's a fallacy to say that a guy like Daniel Snyder...who often tries to BUY success by BUYING great players who end up actually being cancers for the team...it's a fallacy to say that he's attracted to the wrong ways of trying to win? I see a connection. With the Cowboys, too, for that matter.

And when a team is always changing its look, in drastic ways such as the Seahawks going ultra radical with the lime green colors (like they did a few years ago) and now with what is a totally revamped look altogether, I can say with near certainty that there is a team who sucks at FOOTBALL decisions but somehow figures that looks mean more than anything else.

Your assertion that it's a fallacy is as radical as my assertion, btw. What in the blue blazes have the Seahawks done in their entire existence other than Hasselbeck saying "We want the ball, and we're going to win!" in overtime vs. the Packers??? Nothing. Hence the way they play fashion designer with the most sacred thing you could ever alter: YOUR TEAM'S BRAND. The IDENTITY of it. The look of it. There's a team, IMO, who has NO identity. Period.

 

[majestrate]

Sure, it makes economic sense for a team to do this. I have no doubt this is why college teams are doing it--To generate extra revenue.

McNair is "old school" in the sense I do not see him ever tweaking the Texans look/style anytime soon. If ever.

He admires the Rooney family (Steelers), the Mara family (Giants), from what things he has said about them and how those two teams built legacies and fan bases...those two teams don't jack with their logo and their look/style. I would imagine he is paying close attention to those details.

McNair is not modern. He could give a rat's ass about our jersey and other items looking more trendy. If anything, he wants to build stability and longevity. Look no further than Gary Kubiak to support the theory. Everything McNair does is with the eye of long-term stability and longevity...re-designing the brand (the identity) is not a McNair thang. It messes with the paradigm.

The Giants rarely redisgn their logo. But it's not like they never do. I can see the Texans getting a make-over within the next 10 years.

 

[GP]

Not too sure thats what GP was suggesting, think he meant relevance in terms of fashion and looking cool.

BTW, it has been shown that the colour of your teams' kit has an effect on their longterm success, with red being, by some distance, the best colour to wear to have a psychological edge on your opponent.
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/18344128

Thanks, WT.

All I am saying is that an organization tips its hand, routinely, about what it (the organization) is "about" in terms of its inner workings--its culture--and how it interacts or operates with the general public.

It's simple. The Seahawks are not a traditional football team in the sense that they try to blend in and do business like the others do. Instead, they are mimicking college teams (Oregon, for example) because it's the trendy thing to do. This says "We have no original ideas, we don't care about stability, we're only in this thing for what we can do by the seat of our pants." They are reactionary and don't mind being led by what others are doing.

I'd actually be severely PISSED OFF if Bob McNair went ultra radical and changed the look of the team's log and its look/style. There will never be a perfect color scheme, a perfect logo, or a perfect look/style. So just roll with what you have and embrace it. The Packers have the ugliest colors and the dumbest looking "G" logo on their helmet. But by Gawd....they have a tradition with it and it's classic looking--You know full well that they are the Packers, and they aren't changing for anybody. Ever.

Same goes for the Giants. Steelers. Cowboys. The great teams know that this is a sacred thing and you build a following and a you build your team's legacy by remaining constant. Maybe you barely tweak it, but you never alter the brand in such a degree that you have to explain yourself to people every five years. At that point, you look like you're always in a state of disarray and always trying to re0invent yourself to the public. It's bad P.R. Really, really bad P.R. Coca-Cola, Pepsi, Tide, Hersheys, they all have stayed consistent and they rarely deviate from the standard look and colors. It's just Branding 101.

 

[GP]

The Giants rarely redisgn their logo. But it's not like they never do. I can see the Texans getting a make-over within the next 10 years.

Yes, but the changes are very, very subtle. That's the key.

If somebody wants us to go Oregon Ducks on our jerseys...with the way it looks like Tron or some such stuff like that...then they're getting their hopes up for no good reason. It won't ever happen.

The Lions subtly alter their logo, too. But like I said: It is subtle. You won't see the Lions going 3 shades darker with their blue, turning the gray into charcoal black, doing away with stripes and going with some swirly pattern, and then making the Lion some sort of futuristic version of a Lion with lasers on its head. I envision the Seahawks turning the Seahawk into some sort of mechanical war bird. It's the next step. LOL.

I think their area of the country is so progressive and artsy/creative that the fan base doesn't care. In fact, the fans probably love it. It's COOL! It's like the spring line of clothing that comes out onto the runway every year..."What are the Seahawks doing this year? Oh my! I love it! It's bold, it's lime, it's almost like an acid trip!"

 

[BattleRedRock]

I actually like the new uniforms considering the fact that they are customized to each individual on the team.. from what ive heard, Jacoby jones gloves and jersey are equipped with a sticky like adhesive so that he can catch the ball and not drop it. Matt schaubs new uniform is designed with a light metal alloy that is strong and durable so his shell like body can take a hit without getting hurt every five minutes.. so all in all, i think we're gonna be okay...

 

[welsh texan]

Thanks, WT.

All I am saying is that an organization tips its hand, routinely, about what it (the organization) is "about" in terms of its inner workings--its culture--and how it interacts or operates with the general public.

It's simple. The Seahawks are not a traditional football team in the sense that they try to blend in and do business like the others do. Instead, they are mimicking college teams (Oregon, for example) because it's the trendy thing to do. This says "We have no original ideas, we don't care about stability, we're only in this thing for what we can do by the seat of our pants." They are reactionary and don't mind being led by what others are doing.

I'd actually be severely PISSED OFF if Bob McNair went ultra radical and changed the look of the team's log and its look/style. There will never be a perfect color scheme, a perfect logo, or a perfect look/style. So just roll with what you have and embrace it. The Packers have the ugliest colors and the dumbest looking "G" logo on their helmet. But by Gawd....they have a tradition with it and it's classic looking--You know full well that they are the Packers, and they aren't changing for anybody. Ever.

Same goes for the Giants. Steelers. Cowboys. The great teams know that this is a sacred thing and you build a following and a you build your team's legacy by remaining constant. Maybe you barely tweak it, but you never alter the brand in such a degree that you have to explain yourself to people every five years. At that point, you look like you're always in a state of disarray and always trying to re0invent yourself to the public. It's bad P.R. Really, really bad P.R. Coca-Cola, Pepsi, Tide, Hersheys, they all have stayed consistent and they rarely deviate from the standard look and colors. It's just Branding 101.

In making a small mistake here, you've actually reinforced your point. Anyone remember 'new-coke'? Ok, I don't remember it because I'm a spring-chicken but some of the coffin dodgers around here who remember the 80's will. That was an epic fail for their brand that cost an absolute fortune to repair.

I also think this is a very cultural thing, and I'm totally down with it for my favourite NFL team, but in other cultures the idea of a new look every season is embraced by the fans, and doesn't detract from the overall identity of the team at all.

Then again, I think in soccer, because its generally accepted that the team will update every 2 years at most, there isn't the same desperation to go too far with it, just look at the Seahawks who won't be able to change again for 5 years or so, determined to make the most of it.

Funny thing is, I actually think the design of the Seahawks uni would look great in the Red White & Blue of the Texans' colour scheme, its that god awful lime green that makes it sickening.

 

[michaelm]

How utterly disappointing.

I don't know why people keep saying that they are disappointed. No Houston Texans uniform design was ever intended.
Just because Nike took over manufacturing, it doesn't mean they have the right to change team uniform designs. The teams make the decisions about their unis, and present it to the league for approval.

People think Nike can just make whatever designs they want, and that's what the teams wear, but that would be like UPS hiring a new company to manufacture their uniforms, and the new company sending them a bunch of purple short shorts.

 

[GP]

In making a small mistake here, you've actually reinforced your point. Anyone remember 'new-coke'? Ok, I don't remember it because I'm a spring-chicken but some of the coffin dodgers around here who remember the 80's will. That was an epic fail for their brand that cost an absolute fortune to repair.

I also think this is a very cultural thing, and I'm totally down with it for my favourite NFL team, but in other cultures the idea of a new look every season is embraced by the fans, and doesn't detract from the overall identity of the team at all.

Then again, I think in soccer, because its generally accepted that the team will update every 2 years at most, there isn't the same desperation to go too far with it, just look at the Seahawks who won't be able to change again for 5 years or so, determined to make the most of it.

Funny thing is, I actually think the design of the Seahawks uni would look great in the Red White & Blue of the Texans' colour scheme, its that god awful lime green that makes it sickening.

New Coke was an anomaly, though. In fact, and I don't' know if this is urban legend or not, but New Coke was Coca-Cola's way of generating buzz for itself.

You replace a time-honored beverage with a "new" flavor and watch people clamor for "old" Coca-Cola. It was, if it was indeed geared this way, a great idea to make itself popular in a time when the soft drink industry might have been a little flat (pun intended). It was THE news story in its day, with fans basically promoting the Coca-Cola brand...and then eventually the execs giving into the fans' wishes. It was a way to show how popular Coke was in comparison to Pepsi who wasn't making any news during that same time.

The genius of that idea is that they have never attempted it again. To pull off a great idea like that, it has to be a once-in-a-lifetime deal. It wasn't even a gamble to have done it the first time. They had no intention os sticking with New Coke. It was a modern way of generating buzz. From that day forward, companies began to think more creatively about how to play on consumers' emotions. It was innovative, for sure, but it was perhaps THE only thing Coca-Cola has done that was avant-garde.

The Seahawks are showing that they are going to change their look as often as the NFL permits. They're a fashion team with a football department. When the biggest news item for your team is how Marshawn Lynch likes to eat Skittles after scoring a TD, I rest my case.

 

[GP]

I actually like the new uniforms considering the fact that they are customized to each individual on the team.. from what ive heard, Jacoby jones gloves and jersey are equipped with a sticky like adhesive so that he can catch the ball and not drop it. Matt schaubs new uniform is designed with a light metal alloy that is strong and durable so his shell like body can take a hit without getting hurt every five minutes.. so all in all, i think we're gonna be okay...

It should be like a catcher's mitt.

Nike introduced the new Jacoby Jones wide receiver glove today:

 

[Naiirb]

Andre close up

Man that red collar is huge compared to this

Not sure im a fan of the collar just yet...

 

[GP]

Oy. That IS larger than it appeared in the photo(s) where AJ was farther away from the camera.

Am hoping the helmet (the large size of the helmet, and the dark blue colors) helps to bring the proportion of that red collar under control. Otherwise, it looks odd. I agree.

 

[nero THE zero]

Oh really? Wow.

So it's a fallacy to say that a guy like Daniel Snyder...who often tries to BUY success by BUYING great players who end up actually being cancers for the team...it's a fallacy to say that he's attracted to the wrong ways of trying to win? I see a connection. With the Cowboys, too, for that matter.

And when a team is always changing its look, in drastic ways such as the Seahawks going ultra radical with the lime green colors (like they did a few years ago) and now with what is a totally revamped look altogether, I can say with near certainty that there is a team who sucks at FOOTBALL decisions but somehow figures that looks mean more than anything else.

Your assertion that it's a fallacy is as radical as my assertion, btw. What in the blue blazes have the Seahawks done in their entire existence other than Hasselbeck saying "We want the ball, and we're going to win!" in overtime vs. the Packers??? Nothing. Hence the way they play fashion designer with the most sacred thing you could ever alter: YOUR TEAM'S BRAND. The IDENTITY of it. The look of it. There's a team, IMO, who has NO identity. Period.

The Cowboys and Redskins haven't changed their uniforms since 1967 and 1983 respectively. Not sure that bolsters your arguments much.

I understand that football fandom is chock full of traditionalists who shat their pants at any sign of change, and thusly understand the uphill battle my position is.

But, it's entirely baseless to suggest any correlation between uniform change and on-field results (the inverse would be a much stronger argument).

The Chargers, for instance, whose uniforms are a constant evolution, have won 96 games over the course of the past 10 years. The Packers, the paragon of the football traditionalist, have won 99.

It might be a common practice for a losing franchise (i.e. Bucs, Marlins) to change uniforms, but it's foolish to turns causation around and suggest that teams who change uniforms are doomed to fail.

Besides, how's keeping the uniform served the Lions (or Browns) over the past 20 years?

 

[Tailgate]

I wonder if everyone will be wearing those shoes?? They are KEY.

AJ pulled off battle red day better than anyone because of his shoes. It looked bad ass:

White shoes, not so much:

 

[Rey]

The big collar looks awesome to me. I like it more everytime I see it.

I think it's going to look sick on gameday when they are out on the field flying around...

 

[Goatcheese]

Andre close up

Man that red collar is huge compared to this

Not sure im a fan of the collar just yet...

Without shoulder pads that neckline is going to dip down really low.

Ugh, the amount of chest hair we're going to see poking up out of that V-neck on Texans fans is going to be ugly. UGLY!

 

[Premier]

Andre close up

had the texans gone with the flywire collar, this is how the jerseys would have looked..

the collar is starting to grow on me, it stands out more.. we are the only team with the solid collar with the secondary color.. the packers & pats have a striped collar... every other team has the collar cut with the flywire...

 

[Premier]

Ugh, the amount of chest hair we're going to see poking up out of that V-neck on Texans fans is going to be ugly. UGLY!

a couple of things...

1) the retail jerseys will not have the same cut, they will have a more generic football jersey cut.. almost shirt like..

2) do you not wear undershirts with your team jerseys..?

 

[NitroGSXR]

Andre close up

Man... he don't look right without his C patch.

 

[majestrate]

had the texans gone with the flywire collar, this is how the jerseys would have looked..

the collar is starting to crow on me, it stands out more.. we are the only team with the solid collar with the secondary color.. the packers & pats have a striped collar... every other team has the collar cut with the flywire...

I like the flywire collar, have since first seeing it today. But I think it would be a lot better if we could get steel blue and battle red to alternate with the flywire collar (battle red on the raised "stripes", steel blue on the lowered ones)

Also, note that not all the teams have switched to the new design. The Raiders are sticking with Reebok, at least for this year. There are a few more teams, I believe, that are doing the same.

 

[macho grande]

2) do you not wear undershirts with your team jerseys..?

Lmao. My thoughts also.

 

[Premier]

The Raiders are sticking with Reebok, at least for this year. There are a few more teams, I believe, that are doing the same.

theyre definitely not staying with reebok, they've rejected the "elite 51" designs, but nike is still making their uniforms...

 

[majestrate]

Edit:
Nevermind, I failed reading comprehension. Removed quote and link

Thanks for the correction!

Why can't we delete posts if no one has posted after us?

 

[nero THE zero]

I didn't initially like the Texans jersey, but it doesn't look bad in comparison (still like Denver and Seattle's better from this group):

 

[Texanmike02]

Why is Dikembe modeling our jerseys?

http://store.nike.com/us/en_us/?l=shop,houston_texans

Mike

 

[brakos82]

I think their area of the country is so progressive and artsy/creative that the fan base doesn't care. In fact, the fans probably love it. It's COOL! It's like the spring line of clothing that comes out onto the runway every year..."What are the Seahawks doing this year? Oh my! I love it! It's bold, it's lime, it's almost like an acid trip!"

You sure hit that nail on the head. At a grocery store in Seattle there's a rack full of various neon green Seahawks gear. It's painful to look at even for a colorblind person. LOL

 

[welsh texan]

It was innovative, for sure, but it was perhaps THE only thing Coca-Cola has done that was avant-garde.

That and creating Santa Clause

I've got to say, on reflection, I like the new Texans gear a lot, it looks like its fitted a lot better than the Reebok stuff.

Can I just ask, with all this stuff about the different levels of jersey you can get, all the ones I've got have the holes punched through a printed number, yet when I see the players wearing them, the numbers look solid and sewn on. Can anyone advise what jersey I need to buy to get this? All the stuff I get is official stuff, but I've found the numbers begin to wear off within a year (the only guy repping the Texans round Llandudno lol).

 

[BIG TORO]

That and creating Santa Clause

I've got to say, on reflection, I like the new Texans gear a lot, it looks like its fitted a lot better than the Reebok stuff.

Can I just ask, with all this stuff about the different levels of jersey you can get, all the ones I've got have the holes punched through a printed number, yet when I see the players wearing them, the numbers look solid and sewn on. Can anyone advise what jersey I need to buy to get this? All the stuff I get is official stuff, but I've found the numbers begin to wear off within a year (the only guy repping the Texans round Llandudno lol).

In the early pictures I thought that the uniforms as a whole fitted funny, but there growing on me and I think the Texans Uni is one of the best looking ones if not the best.

The Replica have the holes through the numbers. The premier and authentic have the numbers sewn on. Although I don't know if those names translate to Nike.

 

[Goatcheese]

a couple of things...

1) the retail jerseys will not have the same cut, they will have a more generic football jersey cut.. almost shirt like..

2) do you not wear undershirts with your team jerseys..?

1) That's good to hear.
2) I do, but I've seen an unfortunate number of dudes who don't.

 

[False Start]

I hope we never change. If you change, it means you are doing nothing more than diverting from a long-term strategy of building your brand identity.

30 years from now, the Texans logo and jersey design should still be the same and something people associate with the Texans when they see it. The Packers, the Cowboys, the Giants, and most recently the Jets (who have gone back to their old Jet logo) have all understood that you stick with a logo and a look...you farm it for all it's worth. Switching it up every five years (like the Seahawks do) affirms that they are more concerned with their image, trying to be relevant, when they should be concerned with winning instead.

An owner makes fans mad, too, when they have 12 different looking jerseys and are always having the fans buy the newest design. Seems cool when you're a young fan...as you get older, you realize you just want everything to look the same. I know I do, at least. The broad red collar is as funky as McNair wanted to get, obviously. He's not the poster child for radical change, either, so you'll be waiting a long time for a re-design of our stuff.

My thoughts exactly.

I want the Texans to be like the Packers, Steelers, Bears etc. You KNOW right away who it is when you see them. A tweak here and there maybe, but no drastic overhauls.

 

[aussie_texan]

any news about the away and alternate jerseys

 

[Naiirb]

any news about the away and alternate jerseys

Quote from this article http://espn.go.com/espn/page2/story...-reveals-only-small-changes-most-nfl-uniforms

There's one big caveat, however: No alternate jerseys were shown Tuesday. Word through the grapevine is that several of them are in the works, including one for the Redskins. No word yet on when we'll see these (maybe at the draft?), but it might be that Nike and the NFL have decided to stick with conventional primary uniforms and push the envelope with the alternates.

Maybe we'll get something cool for the battle red jerseys

 

[ObsiWan]

Pretty badass.



http://store.nike.com/us/en_us/?l=shop,houston_texans

I must admit this one is pretty cool. I mean it pretty much screams "Battle Red"

 

[False Start]

Now that I've had time to look at them all day, I like them. The solid secondary colored collar really does make them unique. The slight change, is cool.

 

[Premier]

looks like the panthers managed to have a solid color collar that isnt massive as the texans.. they are one of the teams who turned down the "elite 51" uniforms..

http://www.flickr.com/photos/65516705@N00/7042420373/in/photostream/

the eagles as well...
http://www.flickr.com/photos/65516705@N00/7042412445/

 

[ObsiWan]

I actually like the new uniforms considering the fact that they are customized to each individual on the team.. from what ive heard, Jacoby jones gloves and jersey are equipped with a sticky like adhesive so that he can catch the ball and not drop it. Matt schaubs new uniform is designed with a light metal alloy that is strong and durable so his shell like body can take a hit without getting hurt every five minutes.. so all in all, i think we're gonna be okay...

Now see... you know you ain't right.

 

[Rey]

had the texans gone with the flywire collar, this is how the jerseys would have looked..

the collar is starting to grow on me, it stands out more.. we are the only team with the solid collar with the secondary color.. the packers & pats have a striped collar... every other team has the collar cut with the flywire...

To me it does look like they went with the flywire collar. Look at the width of the collar compared to the other teams that have the flywire..It's the same except our is red...

Seems to me that would be part of the reason for the fattening of that part...

I don't understand why the flywire part can be every color except red?

Why would it have had to have been blue?

The Broncos is orange...The Vikings is purple...

They can't make ours red?


Our Jerseys are cut the same way as the other teams with the flywire collar...You can even see where the seem is...It's in the exact same place...Only difference is ours is red all the way around...

If the other teams had the same color all the way around they'd have the fat collar look like us.

The jerseys are cut the same as the other teams with the new designs...

Seems like the only difference is our collar is colored all the way around.

 

[majestrate]

Nike specifically notes that the Texans uniform does not include Nike's flywire technology in the neckline.

 

[Rey]

Nike specifically notes that the Texans uniform does not include Nike's flywire technology in the neckline.

I know that...

I'm just saying that I don't see why they couldn't have still had it and made the collar red...

If you look at the Pats their collar isn't even cut the same as the other teams...

 

[majestrate]

Oh, I thought you were saying that maybe someone asked Nike to make the flywire red, and that's why the collar looks as wide as those that do have it

I think I need to lay off the forums for the next day or two, until my ability to comprehend written word has returned

 

[Rey]

Oh, I thought you were saying that maybe someone asked Nike to make the flywire red, and that's why the collar looks as wide as those that do have it

I think I need to lay off the forums for the next day or two, until my ability to comprehend written word has returned

Nah....I didn't really word it all that well...

Basically I guess I'm asking why couldn't the Texans have gone with flywire AND kept the red collar? Does it have to have that break in it?

 

[silvrhand]

http://nikeinc.com/nike-football/news/nfl-uniforms-houston-texans#/inline/9269

With a nice interactive what's new functionality.

 

[Premier]

Nah....I didn't really word it all that well...

Basically I guess I'm asking why couldn't the Texans have gone with flywire AND kept the red collar? Does it have to have that break in it?

yes it does, because the part of the collar that is the flywire is one solid piece of material that extends to where the numbers are sewn on.., a new material is used for the collar part around the neck..

so the texans chose to not use the flywire in order to keep the solid secondary color around the entire collar.. the steelers, chiefs, patriots, and texans. are the only teams that use the new elite 51 uniforms without the flywire, but the steelers and chiefs collar is their primary color. while the patriots have a striped collar making the texans the only team with the elite 51 unis and a solid secondary colored collar..

 

[Wolf]

Question is have they Cush Proof the material?

 

[b0ng]

It looks like they have a cape on.

 

[le14]

As other's have stated, I like our Uniforms, just the overall classic simplistic scheme of it and the colors. Steel Blue, White, and Battle Red nothing to flashy and over the top. I don't know about a purchase soon, since Nike and the NFL have stated no to little changes for the first year or two but after that, I'm sure Nike will want to tweek some stuff for most if not all the teams. I do like the Seahawks uniforms, but it seems like it would get old after a while.

But for now, the tee shirts will do, love them so far.