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Cushing suspended 4 games for violating policy on performance-enhancing substances
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NitroGSXR
Super Sic #58
The front office has obviously known about this since February. I was scratching my head at the Sharpton pick THEN, but it makes sense now. I'm incredibly disappointed, but I'll reserve opinion until we hear from Cush. He's such a freak about what goes into his body, which is why this is such a surprise. According to the NFL, the rules say the league doesnt disclose what a player tests positive for. Cushing could have tested positive for steroids, other performance-enhancing drugs, a diuretic or nutritional supplements that are banned by the league.
It may not have been 'roids, but still a "banned" substance.
Total bummer, though, no matter the outcome.
It may not have been 'roids, but still a "banned" substance.
Total bummer, though, no matter the outcome.
NFL policy prohibits the league from revealing what he tested positive for. Cushing can "admit" to whatever he wants, or claim he took something unknowingly, but only the NFL knows the truth. Unless someone leaks it, we'll never know the whole truth.
LonerATO
All Pro
That is possible
LonerATO
All Pro
I would venture to say that most people on here already assume that the guy is nothing more then roid talent
Ya know.. I was really disappointed when I heard this news...obviously.
I really wanted to believe that cushing was just a beast of an athlete and a future hall of famer for the Texans...
Honestly though.. even though this makes me worry about his future, and his performance, this doesnt change my feelings on him and this team. As of right now, he is still a young superstar linebacker. Jumping to conclusions and saying that steroid use is the source of all of his success just isnt fair to cushing.
And really...I WANT to believe that he will be cleaned up and continue to dominate the league without the help of steroids. So thats what im going to believe..until he proves otherwise.
I hope that the other Texans fans out there will adopt a similar stance on it. He is a kid.. he made mistakes.. lets not throw him to the wolves because of it. Lets support him and hope that some of the leaders on this team will make sure he stays on the straight and narrow from now on.
This is a huge disappointment.. but its not the end of Cushing's career unless he MAKES it the end of his career. Steroids are a shortcut...everything he has done as a football player is not because he was on steroids. They may have helped but he didnt inject "probowl linebacker" into his veins. He can still do it the right way, and be just as good as he was before. He just needs to work his ass off... which from everything I have seen of him so far, he has no issues with hard work.
I really wanted to believe that cushing was just a beast of an athlete and a future hall of famer for the Texans...
Honestly though.. even though this makes me worry about his future, and his performance, this doesnt change my feelings on him and this team. As of right now, he is still a young superstar linebacker. Jumping to conclusions and saying that steroid use is the source of all of his success just isnt fair to cushing.
And really...I WANT to believe that he will be cleaned up and continue to dominate the league without the help of steroids. So thats what im going to believe..until he proves otherwise.
I hope that the other Texans fans out there will adopt a similar stance on it. He is a kid.. he made mistakes.. lets not throw him to the wolves because of it. Lets support him and hope that some of the leaders on this team will make sure he stays on the straight and narrow from now on.
This is a huge disappointment.. but its not the end of Cushing's career unless he MAKES it the end of his career. Steroids are a shortcut...everything he has done as a football player is not because he was on steroids. They may have helped but he didnt inject "probowl linebacker" into his veins. He can still do it the right way, and be just as good as he was before. He just needs to work his ass off... which from everything I have seen of him so far, he has no issues with hard work.
phantom17
Rookie
Grid- I agree! Give the kid some slack! He is a hard worker with great work ethics, & I think will do just fine without the roids! I hope in the long run, will make him stronger & humble as a person.
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^Depending on exactly when he tested positive
I was about 10 seconds from canceling my Cushing jersey order. But that was when I was in shock. I sat there in my car with my mouth open for a good 5 minutes when i heard the news. Hopefully Cushing has a good explanation. I really liked this guy.
wagonhed
Team Gruden
So much bullshit in this thread. I should probably just leave the board for a few days and ignore it all but I'm not gonna. I'm pissed about Cushing and I'm even more pissed about all the stupid-ass reactions and ignorance in this thread.
Dude weighs freaking 265lbs. If he lost 25 imagine how fast he would be. He'd probably be better in coverage, but not as good at taking on and shedding OL blocks. 240-250 would be better for his longterm health and injuries anyway.
Again, my guess is he popped for testosterone. Assuming he "stops" using (assuming the results aren't from his USC days and he is actually using now), worst case scenario is he loses 20lbs of muscle and becomes a svelt 245lb linebacker with ridiculous motor and instincts.
And yes, what you said is exactly what worries me and pisses me off about this.
FALSE. Steroids do not increase the rate at which injuries heal. In fact, many experienced steroid users work out LESS often while using. Steroids do not heal bone, ligament, tendon, or scar tissue.
There IS no integrity in pro sports. Everyone freaking uses. Brian Cushing isn't the only LB in the league to use steroids. He is just one that was dumb enough to get caught (****ing hell). This is just like the "security theatre" in airports. Pretend like you are doing something when you know you aren't doing ****. Steroids are everywhere in this sport and all the others. The unfair advantage would be to NOT use them.
You're 33 years old, have a child, and still act like this? Wow.
I bet you if we find out the substance it will be a testosterone derivative. I'm just gonna come out and say it, it wasn't a diuretic or whatever else. And yes, HGH actually does have the injury and recovery benefits that people falsey think steroids do.
Why is it not so forgivable? Maybe you didn't see the things I saw in college and whatnot, and don't realize how widespread steroids are. But let me tell you. Steroids are EVERYWHERE in college football, and I don't have any actual experience to know this but basically everyone that pays attention knows that they are EVERYWHERE in pro football too.
Finally someone that knows what they are talking about. That's right, steroids actually increase the risk of injury in many ways. Cushing being on steroids would be the reason he got hurt, not the reason he recovered from injuries faster.
Now this is just bullshit. You are overreacting and clearly know nothing about what steroids do. The "real" Cushing is the exact same thing we know but 245lbs instead of 265. Steroids don't affect your football instincts or your personality.
Dude weighs freaking 265lbs. If he lost 25 imagine how fast he would be. He'd probably be better in coverage, but not as good at taking on and shedding OL blocks. 240-250 would be better for his longterm health and injuries anyway.
Seriously, where are you getting this from? Making up **** because you're mad doesn't make it true. Yes steroids help you build muscle but in the NFL they aren't providing any kind of advantage because everyone ****ing takes them. Ask any person that has ever used them and they will tell you that steroids are absolutely nothing without the right training and work ethic. One of the most widely accepted anecdotes about steroids is that the gains you make from a steroid cycle are 10% about the drugs and 90% about the diet.
Just bury your head back in the sand and pretend that everyone is clean and the best players aren't the ones who use every opportunity they can to get an edge. Then you can continue to be outraged over this.Wow, effin wow! Is that really how you think?
EXACTLY.
Again, my guess is he popped for testosterone. Assuming he "stops" using (assuming the results aren't from his USC days and he is actually using now), worst case scenario is he loses 20lbs of muscle and becomes a svelt 245lb linebacker with ridiculous motor and instincts.
And yes, what you said is exactly what worries me and pisses me off about this.
eriadoc
Texan-American
Dude cheated, plain and simple. If your best rationalization is "everyone else does it" then that's weak, and they're evidently better at cheating than he is.
I agree with some of your points, but none of it gets past the point that he did it to himself. All the reasons, rationalizations, and excuses don't matter. He cheated.
wagonhed
Team Gruden
I'm not saying he shouldn't be suspended, or that he wasn't stupid as all hell. All of the above. And yes, he cheated, but don't expect me to be morally outraged about it. He deserves 4 games for being too stupid to avoid testing positive, but I'm not going to pretend he had some advantage that everyone else didn't, and that that's the only reason he was any good.
eriadoc
Texan-American
I'm not morally outraged about it, but I am pissed that he has jeopardized the team's chances at winning those first 4 games. And again, it's all on him. As far as how good he is, maybe the steroids aren't the only reason he was any good, but I'm now in "Show Me" mode with him. His entire rookie season is a fraud as far as I'm concerned, until he proves otherwise.
I hope he does, because we need him.
wagonhed
Team Gruden
I'm just as pissed as you are. I've had my Cushing jersey that I got last August on my wall since the end of the season and now I'm thinking about taking it down until he comes back from the suspension.
And yeah, I want to see what he does this year. All of us do. But I also don't pretend like his numbers last year don't count. There are hundreds of college linebackers juicing every year that could never come close to doing what Cushing did last year. His rookie season was legit regardless of what happens the rest of his career. Think about it. If steroids gave you such a huge advantage that it could make an average shmuck into an NFL pro bowler, literally everyone would take them. They just don't do all that much.
eriadoc
Texan-American
Conversely, if their absence can turn a guy's career around like Shawne Merriman, then we won't all have the same high opinion of him that we had. Merriman was one of the best LBs in the game on the 'roids, and now he's just a guy. So we'll see. After Manning, McNabb, and Romo carve us up in 3 of the first 4 games, anyway.
powerfuldragon
Enchilada Aficionado.
i won't feign outrage, because it's the NFL.. where else are you gonna see 30+ year olds with the acne of a 16 year old? i hope he comes back pissed off and ready to play.
eriadoc
Texan-American
Yep - just pissed that he put the team in a bad spot.
noxiousdog
Rookie
Merriman sat out the first 4 games of 2006. When he came back, his performance was good enough that he finished third in the balloting for 2006 Associated Press Defensive Player of the Year.
In 2007, Merriman finished the season with 68 total tackles, with 54 solo and 14 assisted tackles, performing to his usual caliber by tallying 12.5 sacks.
2008 he tore knee ligaments, and last year was also injury riddled. The idea that he wasn't the same guy after steroids (well, after he got caught) is silly. The idea he wasn't the same after ripping up his knee is the correct story.
NitroGSXR
Super Sic #58
Point of clarification... I have two boys.
Jackie Chiles
Veteran
Yeah, lets add up all the unrelated crap that Cushing didn't do to make it easier on ourselves. At least Cushing didn't just try to blow up Times Square, so hes got that going for him too. C'mon man, who gives a crap about charges against Ben that have absolutely no relation other than the fact that they are both in the NFL.
As for Cushing....
I hate that he misses the first 4 games of the season.
I hate that I don't know what was real and what was fake from his rookie season.
Most of all though I hate that he proved everyone right that said he was a user. The fact that he went out of his way to deny this and somehow managed to pass the combine test just pisses me off more. This is a black eye for him and the organization. There is a stain on his name now that will be with him to the day he retires.
I loved watching this guy play football last year and when he comes back I'll still be rooting for him but I will never feel the same way about him. I've lost that lovin' feeling and its just a shame.
Kulluminatii
Veteran
Oh wait...guess I can't use that pic now....since he's gone...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IgFwiCApH7E
powerfuldragon
Enchilada Aficionado.
the steroids told him which gaps to shoot. yes.
Malloy
Hall of Fame
So now we have the name, all we need is the band!
GuerillaBlack
Hall of Fame
Seriously? It's like that with every fanbase, including your Cowboys fanbase. A lot of you are acting like Cushing killed your family though. Step away from the ledge. It's disappointing that he used and got caught with whatever banned substance it was. But, his career isn't over...
AnthonyE
Lurker
Didn't Cushing play through some injuries last year? The optimist in me hopes he was using steroids just to speed up the healing process. Because the other option (performance enhancing) would be a huge blow to the defense. Even more than the 4 game suspension would be. Granted, neither reason are acceptable.
AnthonyE
Lurker
I think I just heard on NFLN that he'll be allowed to participate in both.
HJam72
Hall of Fame
headsplint
Rookie
Cushing took roids? Sweet! Too bad he got busted for it. Guaranteed more players than not in the NFL use them. I for one recommend them so we can compete with all the other players in the NFL. just come on Cush..The Urinator...jeez!
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Porky
Hall of Fame
Totally unsubstatiated of course, but in the comments section on Pro Football Talk someone made the following post. Take it FWIW -
My question is this - let's say this is true and he has been juicing since HS. Will his ligaments and joints tend to start having problems, and he will end up injured like Merriman. I don't think the roids/stopping roids killed Merrimans game, it was the injuries....and were the injuries caused/enhanced by the juice?
My question is this - let's say this is true and he has been juicing since HS. Will his ligaments and joints tend to start having problems, and he will end up injured like Merriman. I don't think the roids/stopping roids killed Merrimans game, it was the injuries....and were the injuries caused/enhanced by the juice?
mr. peebs
gig 'em
People make mistakes. I think we all know this. But it's still extremely disheartening to see how fickle and perfidious some on this board are..
As evidenced by the thread in the Draft section about not wanting Cushing before the '09 Draft, his play, attitude, and work ethic won over nearly everyone who was against the pick in the first place. To be honest, even I had concerns about him coming out of college, as I was big on the Clay Matthews wagon. However, the way he came out and took a leadership role on our shell-shocked defense after the first three games and became an instant lightning rod out on the field made me forget all about the rumors swirling around him and just focus on how much better he made our team.
But to see how many users on this board have just completely thrown him under the bus due to the allegations is very sad to see. Nobody has a single clue as to what actually caused him to fail his drug test, and yet everyone immediately knows or assumes the steroids rumors were all true and that he's a cheater and doesn't deserve our sympathy. But seriously, we need to collectively take a breath and a step back from the computer because some of the things people have written just in this thread have been ridiculous.
I've kind of rambled on cause it is 8 in the morning and I have no idea how or why I'm awake after a few hours of sleep, but I just want to know where is the compassion? Where's the forgiveness and the loyalty that us fans all believe we have? Whenever we're talking about people coming from out of town or players drafted to our team, I always see things talking about 'good ole southern hospitality' or something on those lines, and yet, when something like this happens, where does it all go? Where's the basic decency to not kick someone when they're down but to stand by and with them when they need it most?
I don't have the answer, and I guess I'm one of the few, or at least in my mind I suppose, but I just don't understand how we can all love this guy 24 hours ago and now everyone wants to put him to the stake. 21 years old and I'm already jaded with this world, go figure...
Anyways.. the real reason I wanted to post this morning before I started rambling off is that I just wanted to go on the record and say (even though I know he doesn't) if Brian Cushing ever, for whatever reason, checked these boards and somehow came into this thread to see what his fans had to comment, I just want to say that I'm with you. Everyone makes mistakes, and if every time someone made a mistake we just left them out to dry with no support, no good things would ever happen. I've made my share of mistakes, probably a bigger share than most of you proportionate to my age, and I wouldn't of gotten anywhere without the support and love of people close to me. So I just wanted to put it in writing, that you've still got fans out here Cush. You've disappointed us all, but there's plenty of time to make it up to all of us and I'm sure you won't let us down. Stay thirsty my friend.
/rant off
Edit: Go ahead and call me a Smithiak homer or I'm sticking my head in the sand or whatever other names some of y'all come up with, but I've always been loyal to my teams and my players, it kinda comes with the territory of being an A&M fan, so I didn't have any reason to change this time.
As evidenced by the thread in the Draft section about not wanting Cushing before the '09 Draft, his play, attitude, and work ethic won over nearly everyone who was against the pick in the first place. To be honest, even I had concerns about him coming out of college, as I was big on the Clay Matthews wagon. However, the way he came out and took a leadership role on our shell-shocked defense after the first three games and became an instant lightning rod out on the field made me forget all about the rumors swirling around him and just focus on how much better he made our team.
But to see how many users on this board have just completely thrown him under the bus due to the allegations is very sad to see. Nobody has a single clue as to what actually caused him to fail his drug test, and yet everyone immediately knows or assumes the steroids rumors were all true and that he's a cheater and doesn't deserve our sympathy. But seriously, we need to collectively take a breath and a step back from the computer because some of the things people have written just in this thread have been ridiculous.
I've kind of rambled on cause it is 8 in the morning and I have no idea how or why I'm awake after a few hours of sleep, but I just want to know where is the compassion? Where's the forgiveness and the loyalty that us fans all believe we have? Whenever we're talking about people coming from out of town or players drafted to our team, I always see things talking about 'good ole southern hospitality' or something on those lines, and yet, when something like this happens, where does it all go? Where's the basic decency to not kick someone when they're down but to stand by and with them when they need it most?
I don't have the answer, and I guess I'm one of the few, or at least in my mind I suppose, but I just don't understand how we can all love this guy 24 hours ago and now everyone wants to put him to the stake. 21 years old and I'm already jaded with this world, go figure...
Anyways.. the real reason I wanted to post this morning before I started rambling off is that I just wanted to go on the record and say (even though I know he doesn't) if Brian Cushing ever, for whatever reason, checked these boards and somehow came into this thread to see what his fans had to comment, I just want to say that I'm with you. Everyone makes mistakes, and if every time someone made a mistake we just left them out to dry with no support, no good things would ever happen. I've made my share of mistakes, probably a bigger share than most of you proportionate to my age, and I wouldn't of gotten anywhere without the support and love of people close to me. So I just wanted to put it in writing, that you've still got fans out here Cush. You've disappointed us all, but there's plenty of time to make it up to all of us and I'm sure you won't let us down. Stay thirsty my friend.
/rant off
Edit: Go ahead and call me a Smithiak homer or I'm sticking my head in the sand or whatever other names some of y'all come up with, but I've always been loyal to my teams and my players, it kinda comes with the territory of being an A&M fan, so I didn't have any reason to change this time.
CloakNNNdagger
Hall of Fame
Having read this entire thread, I felt the need to at least throw out some facts in order to avoid some common misconceptions that may be surrounding steroids, and what effects it may have on Cushings return.
Steroids have a significant negative impact on the male hormone testosterone. Impotence is very common side effect and may happen during or after steroid use. Steroids shut down the bodys production of testosterone and when it is stopped, the low testosterone levels take a long time to recuperate to normal levels. Many steroid users never regain normal testosterone levels. Thats why commonly there is permanent shrinking of the testicles, decrease in libido, impotence, and the maintenance of man boobs. The man boobs appear because with low testosterone, there is a relative increase of circulating estrogens present........thus bringing out your feminine side.is more likely to occur after stopping steroids, as your body tries to recuperate its natural testosterone levels.
Research is pretty clear that steroids are directly damaging to tendons specifically. To make matters worse, the large increases in strength and weight gain on cycle can cause greater risk of injury to these same tendons. Usually tendons dont have enough time to adjust to the these gains. As an aside, it must be mentioned that the use of steroids can make an athlete (especially a "workout warrior") feel stronger than they actually are, resulting in trying to lift heavier weights than their body is actually capable of, which can lead to muscle tears.
Furthermore, NO injury heals quicker or better while on steroids. Steroids blunt the inflammatory processes which not only are strongly involved in fighting infection but are primary in the basic healing phenomenon.
Again, keep in mind, steroids have a negative feedback mechanism to the production of testosterone. What is interesting is that if you gained muscle off a recent steroid cycle and kept it, it will be very much harder to gain muscle naturally on top of that new muscle. On the other hand, if you damaged your testosterone levels from steroid abuse long term, yes it will be even harder to gain muscle naturally in the future, and almost impossible for some if steroids are discontinued permanently. This is a reason that some athletes are so willing and desperate to find ways to maintain their habit, despite the possible severe consequences of being caught.
IF Cushing has been on steroids, it is to be seen if The Beast returns, or his feminine side appears.
Steroids have a significant negative impact on the male hormone testosterone. Impotence is very common side effect and may happen during or after steroid use. Steroids shut down the bodys production of testosterone and when it is stopped, the low testosterone levels take a long time to recuperate to normal levels. Many steroid users never regain normal testosterone levels. Thats why commonly there is permanent shrinking of the testicles, decrease in libido, impotence, and the maintenance of man boobs. The man boobs appear because with low testosterone, there is a relative increase of circulating estrogens present........thus bringing out your feminine side.is more likely to occur after stopping steroids, as your body tries to recuperate its natural testosterone levels.
Research is pretty clear that steroids are directly damaging to tendons specifically. To make matters worse, the large increases in strength and weight gain on cycle can cause greater risk of injury to these same tendons. Usually tendons dont have enough time to adjust to the these gains. As an aside, it must be mentioned that the use of steroids can make an athlete (especially a "workout warrior") feel stronger than they actually are, resulting in trying to lift heavier weights than their body is actually capable of, which can lead to muscle tears.
Furthermore, NO injury heals quicker or better while on steroids. Steroids blunt the inflammatory processes which not only are strongly involved in fighting infection but are primary in the basic healing phenomenon.
Again, keep in mind, steroids have a negative feedback mechanism to the production of testosterone. What is interesting is that if you gained muscle off a recent steroid cycle and kept it, it will be very much harder to gain muscle naturally on top of that new muscle. On the other hand, if you damaged your testosterone levels from steroid abuse long term, yes it will be even harder to gain muscle naturally in the future, and almost impossible for some if steroids are discontinued permanently. This is a reason that some athletes are so willing and desperate to find ways to maintain their habit, despite the possible severe consequences of being caught.
IF Cushing has been on steroids, it is to be seen if The Beast returns, or his feminine side appears.
A cheater..nothing less than that... say whatever you want, spin it however you want... I am sure some here called Merriman one a few years ago, so please stand true and call Cushing one as well.. Yes, it sucks that one of our own got caught, but he is a cheater, got caught, and now must pay... Your actions now have put a negative spell on my thoughts of how good you really might be.
GP
Go Texans!
Can't believe this just went down. I am just now seeing it.
(sigh)
The only hope is that he gets off the crap, or has been off it for awhile now, and makes a vow to never take it again. I am concerned at exactly how long he's been doing it--Someone said there's rumors of him taking it all the back to his prep school days? Damn. I hope not, but then again...well, ya' know....
It DOES stain his rookie year. And the league should take back his Rookie of the Year award and give it to the person who finished second. Not that it's going to matter, giving an award to the second-best guy so late down the road...but hey, you do the crime you do the time. My two cents.
Think of it this way: NOW we're on the map with the major media outlets.
I am very deflated right now. His skills are undeniable, so the good news is that we know he can play without the roids. But the eventual after-effects that he's going to suffer is my main concern. If he declines steadily over the next several seasons, then it's gonna' really suck having that as part of our team's legacy.
Just when we thought we were getting ahead...we took some steps backward. I don't hate the guy, but I will if he acts like a jive turkey about it instead of manning up and moving on (and moving on the RIGHT way).
(sigh)
The only hope is that he gets off the crap, or has been off it for awhile now, and makes a vow to never take it again. I am concerned at exactly how long he's been doing it--Someone said there's rumors of him taking it all the back to his prep school days? Damn. I hope not, but then again...well, ya' know....
It DOES stain his rookie year. And the league should take back his Rookie of the Year award and give it to the person who finished second. Not that it's going to matter, giving an award to the second-best guy so late down the road...but hey, you do the crime you do the time. My two cents.
Think of it this way: NOW we're on the map with the major media outlets.
I am very deflated right now. His skills are undeniable, so the good news is that we know he can play without the roids. But the eventual after-effects that he's going to suffer is my main concern. If he declines steadily over the next several seasons, then it's gonna' really suck having that as part of our team's legacy.
Just when we thought we were getting ahead...we took some steps backward. I don't hate the guy, but I will if he acts like a jive turkey about it instead of manning up and moving on (and moving on the RIGHT way).
Yep, I called Merriman a cheater, so I am calling Cushing one now.
It does not matter if you think steroids should be allowed in the NFL. Fact is, they are not. Cushing cheated, and got caught. As fans, we have every right to complain. We pay money to watch these guys. We do not exist to be personal suck ups. Loyalty? to the team, not specific players.
It does not matter if you think steroids should be allowed in the NFL. Fact is, they are not. Cushing cheated, and got caught. As fans, we have every right to complain. We pay money to watch these guys. We do not exist to be personal suck ups. Loyalty? to the team, not specific players.
GP
Go Texans!
Yeah, I hear you.
I personally cannot find it within me to turn a blind eye and act like it's no big deal. It stings.
We'd like to think that the guys who are great are great because of hard work and commitment to excellence in all they do on the practice field, the weight room, living a good healthy lifestyle, and on the field on game day. Nobody wants to think that a guy's performance was enhanced by pharmaceuticals. It just rubs the average sports fan in a bad way.
Seriously have a knot in my stomach now.
infantrycak
Hall of Fame
You are correct. May very well be that it is steroids but the NFL has not officially said. Let's not forget the Williams are about to serve 4 game suspensions for what everyone admits was a manufacturer's lie.
BullNation4Life
All Pro
Doesn't matter what he was taking he got busted for PEDs. Only reason you get a 4 game ban without a 3 strike rule. He apparently appealed the suspension in February and lost...
From reports he is attending his aunts funeral. Quite sure this will be addressed Monday and the spin will hit the fan....
this isn't an innocent until proven guilty situation, he is guilty....
BullNation4Life
All Pro
They said it was PEDs...
Kimmy
RealGirls LvFB!
RazorOye
Ayo
In the case of the Williamses and Saints players (Smith, Grant, and Deuce) they were all taking StarCaps in order to cut weight (so they claim). It's a diuretic and contains the bumetanide which is a banned substance according to the NFL - not because it's a PED but because it can mask the use of PED.
So it falls under the steroid abuse policy even though it's not actually a steroid.
In the case of StarCaps, the company did not include it on the product's list of active ingredients and the players claim they were unknowingly taking a banned substance while taking this diuretic.
Now, who knows where the truth lies - maybe they knew, maybe they didn't. I just wanted to point out that in their case even though it wasn't a PED directly, it could mask the use of PED so it is considered as one.
infantrycak
Hall of Fame
How about quoting that and not someone assuming that is what it was?
And again, there are hundreds of things that can pop positive on the NFL testing. Let's wait to find out what it was before rushing to judgment.
Kimmy
RealGirls LvFB!
One of our boys was caught up in that, too. Bryan Pittman, long snapper.
infantrycak
Hall of Fame
Oh and so much for the BS assertions/implications that Texans fans wouldn't be hard on a white player that came up in the Dunta contract negotiation discussions.