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Cushing suspended 4 games for violating policy on performance-enhancing substances

Anyone hoping that this is an accidental positive test because of some harmless dietary supplement that happens to be on the banned list is going to be disappointed I think.

Cushing was very careful and direct about what he put into his body. No way was this an accident.



Guess we can add liar to his list of accomplishments?

"I've passed every drug test out there and still have," Cushing said during his 2009 draft news conference. "I'm not that kind of guy."
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Posted this last night, I think, but can't find it
 
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awtysst said:
See here is where we disagree. I do not cheer for players, I cheer for the Texans. I don't care who is on the Texans. I don't care either way for Cushing. I have never met the guy and likely never will. I care about the Team, so when I read stories like this I wonder how the TEAM will be affected. I don't care how Cush personally will be affected. I don't care if his feelings are hurt or if he feels the fan base has turned on him. Quiet frankly I do not care bout any of the players. I care solely about the Team. No player is above the team and no player is irreplaceable. I will be a Texans fan long after Cush or any of the current players have retired.
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I thought about that too. Why did he put himself before the team? How does this affect the team? Like I said, I had lots of thoughts on this issue. I just couldn't, rather didn't want to take the effort to articulate it. What's done is done.
 
gtexan02 said:
Anyone hoping that this is an accidental positive test because of some harmless dietary supplement that happens to be on the banned list is going to be disappointed I think.

Cushing was very careful and direct about what he put into his body. No way was this an accident.
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Actually the more I think about this, the more I think it could very well be an accidental positive of some secondary banned substance. And by secondary I mean one of the hundreds of strange ancillary drugs on the banned list that aren't actually steroids.

Cushing being the workout and diet fanatic that he is has got to know all of the testing times for the different drugs. Surely he has been using the short ester compounds to avoid testing positive. If not, then he really is a dumb ****er. To know that much about diet and exercise and not even know which steroids to avoid.

So I'm thinking that he knew exactly what he was doing with steroids and somehow, from a doctor or some accessory drug, got one of the other strange banned substances that lasts a lot longer in your blood/fat cells. The other possibility is that he was taking a form of nandrolone in college, which is the steroid that lasts up to 2 years in your blood, and he tested positive for it way after the fact.

Ok so let me break this down for my own benefit.


Option 1: Cushing has been using long-ester steroids at some point in the last 6-12 months and tested positive for those. This would mean he is literally a ****ing retard, considering that there are equivalents that only stay in your system for 3 days.


Option 2: He tested positive for a super-long ester steroid that he was taking in college. This is the kind that Stephan Bonnar tested positive for a few years ago. Any athlete in a tested organization taking these compounds is a ****ing *****.

Option 3: He was using the short-ester steroids properly so he didn't test positive for those, but popped for an ancillary drug that he wasn't aware of or wasn't aware of the time they remain in your system (I don't think information on many ancillaries is as well known as the detection time for the actual steroids). This is the option I'm hoping for because it means he was smart about what he was using and most likely got burned either by his doctor or by some obscure drug mixed in with something he was taking that he thought was legit.


I have a couple more thoughts. To begin with, yeah, I don't think there is any way he is not taking steroids or at least has taken them at some point in the last couple years. One thing about steroids is you don't just stay on them. You take them for a couple months and then you come off after getting your results.

Another thing is that there are tons of over-the-counter supplements that have substances on the NFL banned list. It is entirely possible, I would say likely even, that Cushing was taking one of these types of things and got burned. Many of this type of supplement, the ones that are designed for muscle-building, contain chemical derivatives of male hormones. The thing is that when the NFL or whoever "tests" for a certain compound, they are not actually testing for that and only that compound. Derivative compounds that are not banned can trigger positives for other compounds that are banned. This kind of thing has been going on since the whole "Andro" affair in the 90s.

And since I'm rambling, I'll go on. These days there are actually a lot of different OTC supplements that are similar in potency to steroids. The difference is that they are getting much, MUCH more dangerous, because they have extra molecular components attached to them that get filtered out by the liver and kidneys. Long story short, many legal supplements actually give a lot of the same results as steroids but will destroy your body 5x faster, and many of these are not yet banned by the NFL because they keep producing new ones with cutting edge technology. If you think that NFL players avoid steroids because they are illegal, you can be damn sure that they are taking these cutting-edge legal supplements and ****ing up their body a lot faster with them. And on that topic, this is one of the many reasons I think steroids should be legalized in the normal world and in sports, because making them illegal causes that much more damage to the health of the players who have to take the dangerous OTC stuff to keep up.

:rant:
 
wagonhed said:
Everyone that plays football is risking their long term health. Football is life for Cushing (I'm guessing) and he has dedicated himself to it. So yes, I hope he continues to use, because he is a grown man and has made the choice for himself to play football and I hope he does what it takes to be the absolute best at what he does. If he never uses again he will be at a huge disadvantage and in all likelihood become a mediocre or even bad player compared to what is the norm in the NFL. I don't think he wants that for himself, as a person, and neither do I.
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(sigh)

How can I respond to this post without dragging the character of the poster into question? It's a bit of a tightrope walk, indeed.

You are "OK"...no, scratch that...You are DESIRING for him to continue to use so that he will not be at a disadvantage? Seriously?!?

You want to win so badly that you desire for a man to potentially die an early death if it meant he fulfills your desires (which you then go on to say that it's what he'd like for himself, as well).

I think the biggest laugher in all this is that you've openly, and proudly, co-signed Brian Cushing into your opinion on taking enhancement drugs.

Let your profanity-laced tirade begin, in 3...2......1..........
 
wagonhed said:
Actually the more I think about this, the more I think it could very well be an accidental positive of some secondary banned substance. And by secondary I mean one of the hundreds of strange ancillary drugs on the banned list that aren't actually steroids.

Cushing being the workout and diet fanatic that he is has got to know all of the testing times for the different drugs. Surely he has been using the short ester compounds to avoid testing positive. If not, then he really is a dumb ****er. To know that much about diet and exercise and not even know which steroids to avoid.

So I'm thinking that he knew exactly what he was doing with steroids and somehow, from a doctor or some accessory drug, got one of the other strange banned substances that lasts a lot longer in your blood/fat cells. The other possibility is that he was taking a form of nandrolone in college, which is the steroid that lasts up to 2 years in your blood, and he tested positive for it way after the fact.

Ok so let me break this down for my own benefit.


Option 1: Cushing has been using long-ester steroids at some point in the last 6-12 months and tested positive for those. This would mean he is literally a ****ing retard, considering that there are equivalents that only stay in your system for 3 days.


Option 2: He tested positive for a super-long ester steroid that he was taking in college. This is the kind that Stephan Bonnar tested positive for a few years ago. Any athlete in a tested organization taking these compounds is a ****ing *****.

Option 3: He was using the short-ester steroids properly so he didn't test positive for those, but popped for an ancillary drug that he wasn't aware of or wasn't aware of the time they remain in your system (I don't think information on many ancillaries is as well known as the detection time for the actual steroids). This is the option I'm hoping for because it means he was smart about what he was using and most likely got burned either by his doctor or by some obscure drug mixed in with something he was taking that he thought was legit.


I have a couple more thoughts. To begin with, yeah, I don't think there is any way he is not taking steroids or at least has taken them at some point in the last couple years. One thing about steroids is you don't just stay on them. You take them for a couple months and then you come off after getting your results.

Another thing is that there are tons of over-the-counter supplements that have substances on the NFL banned list. It is entirely possible, I would say likely even, that Cushing was taking one of these types of things and got burned. Many of this type of supplement, the ones that are designed for muscle-building, contain chemical derivatives of male hormones. The thing is that when the NFL or whoever "tests" for a certain compound, they are not actually testing for that and only that compound. Derivative compounds that are not banned can trigger positives for other compounds that are banned. This kind of thing has been going on since the whole "Andro" affair in the 90s.

And since I'm rambling, I'll go on. These days there are actually a lot of different OTC supplements that are similar in potency to steroids. The difference is that they are getting much, MUCH more dangerous, because they have extra molecular components attached to them that get filtered out by the liver and kidneys. Long story short, many legal supplements actually give a lot of the same results as steroids but will destroy your body 5x faster, and many of these are not yet banned by the NFL because they keep producing new ones with cutting edge technology. If you think that NFL players avoid steroids because they are illegal, you can be damn sure that they are taking these cutting-edge legal supplements and ****ing up their body a lot faster with them. And on that topic, this is one of the many reasons I think steroids should be legalized in the normal world and in sports, because making them illegal causes that much more damage to the health of the players who have to take the dangerous OTC stuff to keep up.

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How do you have all this information? Are you a user of the stuff?

Because I sit here and see that you rattled off quite a bit of stuff that would take me an entire day to research and cross-reference. If you are a user, which I don't know that you are (but hey, look at how passionate you are about it) then it makes sense as to why your viewpoint is slanted differently than the average poster on here who is discouraged today.

If you don't use, are you near someone who does? Or have you been in environments (workout gyms, competitions of some kind, etc.) where you've picked up on this information?

I can't fathom why you are so uniquely opposite-minded on this.
 
GP said:
(sigh)

How can I respond to this post without dragging the character of the poster into question? It's a bit of a tightrope walk, indeed.

You are "OK"...no, scratch that...You are DESIRING for him to continue to use so that he will not be at a disadvantage? Seriously?!?

You want to win so badly that you desire for a man to potentially die an early death if it meant he fulfills your desires (which you then go on to say that it's what he'd like for himself, as well).

I think the biggest laugher in all this is that you've openly, and proudly, co-signed Brian Cushing into your opinion on taking enhancement drugs.

Let your profanity-laced tirade begin, in 3...2......1..........
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Why do you even bother? I welcomed him (and still do) to this site but he's hellbent on offending everybody. He has little regard for human life and very little respect for others. It's definitely laughable, GP.
 
GP said:
(sigh)

How can I respond to this post without dragging the character of the poster into question? It's a bit of a tightrope walk, indeed.

You are "OK"...no, scratch that...You are DESIRING for him to continue to use so that he will not be at a disadvantage? Seriously?!?

You want to win so badly that you desire for a man to potentially die an early death if it meant he fulfills your desires (which you then go on to say that it's what he'd like for himself, as well).

I think the biggest laugher in all this is that you've openly, and proudly, co-signed Brian Cushing into your opinion on taking enhancement drugs.

Let your profanity-laced tirade begin, in 3...2......1..........
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Waaaaaahhhh.

I never said I want Brian to do something against his will. I support whatever decisions he makes. My GUESS is that he won't want to stop using steroids just because of that, and I support that fully.

I've never claimed to speak for him either, so don't put words in my mouth. Obviously he feels that taking steroids is the right thing to do if he has been doing it. And beyond that, I haven't given my opinion as to what I think about taking PEDs, all I've said is that it is a reality in the NFL, and every other sport, and that if you want to compete they are pretty much necessary. My opinion is that they should be legal because I believe in personal freedom and I don't want to see guys get even more messed up with bullshit legal knockoff supplements.

In other words, you need to learn how to read, and not put your retarded interpretations into other people's mouth.
 
wagonhed said:
I never said I want Brian to do something against his will.

I've never claimed to speak for him either

In other words, you need to learn how to read, and not put your retarded interpretations into other people's mouth.
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You said this:

I don't think he wants that for himself, as a person, and neither do I.
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How is this NOT speaking for him? LOL!!! That's a statement you would make about the general welfare and quality of life of a person, i.e. "I really hope my friend stops being an alcoholic because the doctor says his liver is almost gone. I don't think he wants that for himself, as a person, and neither do I." You don't use that statement when the thing you desire is for him to continue introducing chemicals that might harm himself. Do you?

Oh yeah, and you better check yourself using the word "retarded" on here.
 
GP said:
How do you have all this information? Are you a user of the stuff?

Because I sit here and see that you rattled off quite a bit of stuff that would take me an entire day to research and cross-reference. If you are a user, which I don't know that you are (but hey, look at how passionate you are about it) then it makes sense as to why your viewpoint is slanted differently than the average poster on here who is discouraged today.

If you don't use, are you near someone who does? Or have you been in environments (workout gyms, competitions of some kind, etc.) where you've picked up on this information?

I can't fathom why you are so uniquely opposite-minded on this.
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I knew the ad hominems would come out, and I'm altogether unsurprised that it comes from you.

Fine, we can make this about why I know so much about steroids. First of all, it's none of any of your business whether or not I've used them or are using them now, but you can feel free to ask Arlington Texan if I look like I'm on steroids. LOL.

First of all, all of this information is widely available on the internet. I happen to be knowledgable on the subject for many reasons which I'm not afraid to admit. The first of which is that I was roommates with someone in the military who sold steroids to other people in the military on a large scale, and I had a couple really good friends that used, and some who I helped administer it to. I've also known ex and current college players that used. So yes, I've poked a guy in the ass with a needle, and that is part of why I know so much about them. Do you have a problem with that? Would you like to rebuke the facts I've shared about steroids based on that?

Oh by the way, that long post CloakNNNDagger made about steroids confirmed everything I had been saying earlier in the thread, and he's a doctor.

My viewpoint is based on the facts about steroids, facts that basically noone knows and the public is completely ignorant of thanks to government anti-drug propaganda. Fact is the public opinion of steroids is based on lies.

But feel free to continue the personal accusations, they are very relevant to this thread.
 
Cushing can play in the preseason games so it will be interesting to see how he plays then before the 4 game ban goes into effect
 
NitroHonda said:
Why do you even bother? I welcomed him (and still do) to this site but he's hellbent on offending everybody. He has little regard for human life and very little respect for others. It's definitely laughable, GP.
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I'm sorry if factual information about steroids is offensive to you. I'm also sorry for not jumping on your hateful anti-Cushing bandwagon.

As to respect for others, aren't you the guy that told me to go play with my small penis earlier in the thread? :lol:
 
wagonhed said:
Waaaaaahhhh.



In other words, you need to learn how to read, and not put your retarded interpretations into other people's mouth.
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wagonhed said:
I knew the ad hominems would come out, and I'm altogether unsurprised that it comes from you.

Fine, we can make this about why I know so much about steroids. First of all, it's none of any of your business whether or not I've used them or are using them now, but you can feel free to ask Arlington Texan if I look like I'm on steroids. LOL.

First of all, all of this information is widely available on the internet. I happen to be knowledgable on the subject for many reasons which I'm not afraid to admit. The first of which is that I was roommates with someone in the military who sold steroids to other people in the military on a large scale, and I had a couple really good friends that used, and some who I helped administer it to. I've also known ex and current college players that used. So yes, I've poked a guy in the ass with a needle, and that is part of why I know so much about them. Do you have a problem with that? Would you like to rebuke the facts I've shared about steroids based on that?

Oh by the way, that long post CloakNNNDagger made about steroids confirmed everything I had been saying earlier in the thread, and he's a doctor.

My viewpoint is based on the facts about steroids, facts that basically noone knows and the public is completely ignorant of thanks to government anti-drug propaganda. Fact is the public opinion of steroids is based on lies.

But feel free to continue the personal accusations, they are very relevant to this thread.
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Nice try.....:potkettle:
 
wagonhed said:
I'm sorry if factual information about steroids is offensive to you. I'm also sorry for not jumping on your hateful anti-Cushing bandwagon.

As to respect for others, aren't you the guy that told me to go play with my small penis earlier in the thread? :lol:
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If you can find it.

:lol:
 
wagonhed said:
Ok, so asking me if I take steroids isn't a personal accusation? How is la-la-land treating you?
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Nice deflection. You accused people of personal attacks while you are engaging in them yourself. It's pretty simple, but I guess I am in la-la-land with my head buried in the sand.
 
powerfuldragon said:
yeah wagonhed, you don't share my opinion so i hate you.

so ner.
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It's pretty simple PD, if you don't agree with him you're a dumbass, how dare we respect the opinons of others.

NitroHonda said:
He has insulted enough of my friends here on this board since day one of his arrival. We all know this but him... not even worth trying to mess with a joke.
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All he does is insult everyone or be condescending. But he is self proclaimed expert in EVERYTHING don't you know. And reminds a good portion of us that we are retarted on a routine basis. :rolleyes:

I'd rather read Johnsonfan.
 
Hardcore Texan said:
Nice deflection. You accused people of personal attacks while you are engaging in them yourself. It's pretty simple, but I guess I am in la-la-land with my head buried in the sand.
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Ok, yeah, I've been less than nice to a few people in this thread. Same goes for you and a bunch of other people in this thread. So as far as personal attacks, sure, I've participated.

What's your point? I didn't use personal attacks to try to prove that someone else was wrong. I've offered relevant and factual information to support all my points in here.

You, Nitro, and GP are simply attacking me because you don't like me, you don't actually have anything relevant or factual to say about my posts. As per usual.
 
I love Cushing and people make mistakes
however, doing steroids or masking for steroids is illegal and unethical in a competitive atmosphere where livelihoods and bodies are on the line

I will wait to judge Brian until it all comes out
but his actions have hurt the Texans and the NFL
if he tested positive he needs to be punished

steroids are a big deal
I don't think they have a place in sports and the only way you can keep I out is to punish those that try and get over on the rest of the league
 
Hardcore Texan said:
It's pretty simple PD, if you don't agree with him you're a dumbass, how dare we respect the opinons of others.

All he does is insult everyone or be condescending. But he is self proclaimed expert in EVERYTHING don't you know. And reminds all that we are retarted routinely. :rolleyes:

I'd rather read Johnsonfan.
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Hey man, if you think you've got better information about this topic than I do or than CND does, go ahead and speak up. Otherwise stop wasting everyone's time with the whining.
 
wagonhed said:
Ok, yeah, I've been less than nice to a few people in this thread. Same goes for you and a bunch of other people in this thread. So as far as personal attacks, sure, I've participated.

What's your point? I didn't use personal attacks to try to prove that someone else was wrong. I've offered relevant and factual information to support all my points in here.

You, Nitro, and GP are simply attacking me because you don't like me, you don't actually have anything relevant or factual to say about my posts. As per usual.
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Fact: you said you hope he continues to use steroids. But my post aren't relevant.

Don't like you? I don't know you, as far as how you come off on a message board, I'd rather not get into it, let's just say you treat everyone as if they are beneath you. I get it you are a smart guy, why do you use your intelligence to try and belittle others. It's pretty small-minded.
 
wagonhed said:
Hey man, if you think you've got better information about this topic than I do or than CND does, go ahead and speak up. Otherwise stop wasting everyone's time with the whining.
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CND has been around here a long time and very helpful to a lot of posters, contributing to the board in a positive way, don't put yourself in his category.

I never once claimed to have more info that someone else....unlike you, I haven't insulted any as you have accused me of, I on the other have told you like it is. Call it whining or whatever you like, no skin off of my teeth.

I think it sucks that he used and he will be gone for 4 games that's my revelance to the thread. He cost the team! You think he should keep cheating and just not get caught. The only thing I took issue with until you ramped up the insults yet again.
 
wagonhed said:
Ok, yeah, I've been less than nice to a few people in this thread. Same goes for you and a bunch of other people in this thread. So as far as personal attacks, sure, I've participated.

What's your point? I didn't use personal attacks to try to prove that someone else was wrong. I've offered relevant and factual information to support all my points in here.

You, Nitro, and GP are simply attacking me because you don't like me, you don't actually have anything relevant or factual to say about my posts. As per usual.
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You've been riding your Radio Flyer a few years too long. Why or how could I, the retard, have anything factual to say?

Excuse me, I have some corn to shuck from my bunghole. It looks yummy.
 
GP said:
How is this NOT speaking for him? LOL!!! That's a statement you would make about the general welfare and quality of life of a person, i.e. "I really hope my friend stops being an alcoholic because the doctor says his liver is almost gone. I don't think he wants that for himself, as a person, and neither do I." You don't use that statement when the thing you desire is for him to continue introducing chemicals that might harm himself. Do you?

Oh yeah, and you better check yourself using the word "retarded" on here.
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Ok dude. You need to wake up and realize that people in the NFL use steroids. If Brian Cushing pledges to never use any drug that might harm his body ever again, he will fade away into obscurity. If that's what he wants, fine with me. He can be like Frank Okam and Amobi Okoye who care about other things more than they care about football. There's certainly nothing wrong with that, and I have better feelings towards those two than a lot of people on this board.

But I think anyone that thinks Cushing wants to take that route is on crack. I think we all know what Cushing wants to do, and that is play football and be the best. If that turns out wrong and he quits football and go back to school, I'll eat my words. But I'm not banking on it.
 
It may well have been that Cushing got nailed for using some type of masking agent.

By the way, those of you who think Clay Matthews is clean look at his arms early in his career -
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Hardcore Texan said:
CND has been around here a long time and very helpful to a lot of posters, contributing to the board in a positive way, don't put yourself in his category.

I never once claimed to have more info that someone else....unlike you, I haven't insulted any as you have accused me of, I on the other have told you like it is. Call it whining or whatever you like, no skin off of my teeth.

I think it sucks that he used and he will be gone for 4 games that's my revelance to the thread. You think he should keep cheating and just not get caught. The only thing I took issue with until you ramped up the insults yet again.
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So are you attacking me or are you attacking my information? If you are attacking my information than you are attacking CND's as well because he corroborated much of what I said early in the thread and would likely corroborate much of the rest of what I've said as well. If you're attacking me as a person, which I think it's pretty obvious that you are, well, why don't you take it to PMs because it isn't adding anything to the thread and I don't have any interest in trying to defend myself further against you.
 
wagonhed said:
Ok dude. You need to wake up and realize that people in the NFL use steroids. If Brian Cushing pledges to never use any drug that might harm his body ever again, he will fade away into obscurity. If that's what he wants, fine with me. He can be like Frank Okam and Amobi Okoye who care about other things more than they care about football. There's certainly nothing wrong with that, and I have better feelings towards those two than a lot of people on this board.

But I think anyone that thinks Cushing wants to take that route is on crack. I think we all know what Cushing wants to do, and that is play football and be the best. If that turns out wrong and he quits football and go back to school, I'll eat my words. But I'm not banking on it.
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I think he just got finished with his sociology within the last week based on his facebook.
 
Look back through my post in this thread and get back to me. I disagreed with your opinion and then you went off and you don't like people giving you back the same tone you treat others with.
 
I haven't read the entire thread, but of the posts I have read I have one thought:

Do not assume he has taken steroids until it has been shown that he tested positive for steroids. He tested positive for a banned substance and there are numerous substances on that list. I think it would be wise to hold off judgement until all the info comes out on this.

The dude has a work ethic second to none, and it's easy to sit back and say he's juicing rather than simply busting his ass. Let's all wait and see how this plays out.
 
so everyone sees this

noxiousdog said:
Merriman sat out the first 4 games of 2006. When he came back, his performance was good enough that he finished third in the balloting for 2006 Associated Press Defensive Player of the Year.

In 2007, Merriman finished the season with 68 total tackles, with 54 solo and 14 assisted tackles, performing to his usual caliber by tallying 12.5 sacks.

2008 he tore knee ligaments, and last year was also injury riddled. The idea that he wasn't the same guy after steroids (well, after he got caught) is silly. The idea he wasn't the same after ripping up his knee is the correct story.
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"I believe we presented compelling evidence during the appeal process to challenge the test results, and I disagree with and am disappointed by the suspension," Cushing said in the statement. "Bound by the decision of the league, I regret the situation it presents to the Texans' organization, my teammates, and our fans. My dedication to a championship season in 2010 continues undeterred."
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http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=5172060
 
I'lll go ahead and say it: I hope Cushing keeps using too. I don't buy the "but he's destroying his body" argument. Dude's a professional football player. Playing football destroys your body. His job is to ram himself into people as hard as possible. He has to wear as much protection as a riot officer when he goes to work because otherwise he could die with 70,000 people watching. We are asking him to sacrifice years off of his life, or at the very least we ask him to severely hamper his quality of life in his later years (see Earl Campbell).

Don't tell me that you don't like steroids for the health issues. If you were really concerned about Cushing's health, you'd prefer that he was an accountant somewhere.

Society in general turns a blind eye to roids and then feigns horrified outrage when someone gets caught. It's bothered me since the 90's baseball controversy, when the same people that cheered McGwire and Sosa on all of a sudden turned into Inquisitioners.

Society assumes that everyone is clean because we apply the legal standard of innocence over common sense. Look, it's circumstantial evidence that there were never more than 8 guys in the NFL over 300 lbs since the 20's, and today the average lineman weighs over 300 lbs. This does not conclusively prove that steroids are more frequent in today's NFL. Nevertheless it's a pretty big flashing neon sign that something may not be right with this picture.

We want our athletes to run faster, hit harder, and jump higher. We pay them millions for tiny differences in these abilities, and we proclaim them community heroes when they are good enough. The double standard when it comes to steroids in sports irritates me to no end.
 
False Start said:
I wonder if he can try the same thing the Williams boys did in Minnesota? Maybe delay the suspension.
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this is what happened with the Williams

The case centered on the players’ positive drug-test results for the NFL-banned substance Bumetanide. They maintained this was caused by their having consumed StarCaps, an over-the-counter dietary supplement. StarCaps contained Bumetanide, but did not list it as an ingredient on the label. (Hence, the case is commonly referred to as the “StarCaps” case.)
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http://www.texanstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?p=1427861#post1427861

I don't know if this is kind of the same situation as Cushing's
 
Dan B. said:
I'lll go ahead and say it: I hope Cushing keeps using too. I don't buy the "but he's destroying his body" argument. Dude's a professional football player. Playing football destroys your body. His job is to ram himself into people as hard as possible. He has to wear as much protection as a riot officer when he goes to work because otherwise he could die with 70,000 people watching. We are asking him to sacrifice years off of his life, or at the very least we ask him to severely hamper his quality of life in his later years (see Earl Campbell).

Don't tell me that you don't like steroids for the health issues. If you were really concerned about Cushing's health, you'd prefer that he was an accountant somewhere.

Society in general turns a blind eye to roids and then feigns horrified outrage when someone gets caught. It's bothered me since the 90's baseball controversy, when the same people that cheered McGwire and Sosa on all of a sudden turned into Inquisitioners.

Society assumes that everyone is clean because we apply the legal standard of innocence over common sense. Look, it's circumstantial evidence that there were never more than 8 guys in the NFL over 300 lbs since the 20's, and today the average lineman weighs over 300 lbs. This does not conclusively prove that steroids are more frequent in today's NFL. Nevertheless it's a pretty big flashing neon sign that something may not be right with this picture.

We want our athletes to run faster, hit harder, and jump higher. We pay them millions for tiny differences in these abilities, and we proclaim them community heroes when they are good enough. The double standard when it comes to steroids in sports irritates me to no end.
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You make a compelling argument but I disagree all the way around. I enjoy watching high school football alot too and it's definitely not a prevalent there. I will never agree to the use of steriods no matter the argument. People elect to play football and people elect to use steroids and I don't condone the latter just because I am football fan. Sorry, I have to put quality of life over a game.
 
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