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This may be somewhere else on this board but I thought this might be a good place for a radio commentary (listen to the whole thing):
610 Whiner Line
Schaubie was RIGHT!
A true fan supports their team, through the good through, the bad, no matter what.
All you 'fans' who left early were probably the same ones that left last year vs the titans when Sage brought us back from being 21 points down in the 4th quarter.
I stay for my team and I get there early for my team and I scream like crazy when we are on defense for my team.
Go Texans!
Cap'n Texan
I've got a friend who says that you are not a "true fan" unless you get a team logo tattoo, buy the $250 jersey, and go to every game. I guess everyone has different standards for being a so-called "true fan".
After reading all 7 pages of this (thus far), there are a couple of trends I see developing and felt compelled to address.
1. Schaub did noting wrong - I respectfully disagree. IMHO, after listening to the whole thing, I felt Schaub may mean well, but he SHOULD have bit his lip on EVER calling out ANY fan. Whether you agree with his sentiments or not, it's an area into which he should NOT venture. I felt he was out-of-line, especially given the amount of support this mediocre team has received. The Texans don't have a lousy home record this season due to lack of fan support.
2. "Real Fans" - I hear this phrase every year and it's getting tiresome. While I stay to the bitter end, I'm a die-hard and that's just me. The paying customer has the right to boo, yell, and leave at their discretion. All this garbage about "you never hear this in Pittsburgh, K.C., etc." is just that... GARBAGE. If you've never heard a fanbase boo ANY of the 32 teams, I suggest you are listening with jaded ears. (The same goes for blowout wins OR losses - it happes at ALL stadiums)
This team has never finished over .500, and can't seem to play two halves this season. Our QB looks like the "golden arm" when he's protected and has a well-defined pocket, but under duress (like many other QB's), he deterioates rapidly and predictably. Of his multiple turnovers last game, I only blame him for the "Pick 6" one, as that is HIS coverage to read.
You are a fan if you say you are. Nothing else is required.
Db did you not get the memo about "The Texan Purity Test"?yep, that's my standard, as well. I have no preconceived notions about the definitions of a fan other than what you stated, and find it rather sad to see fans calling each other out when we all root for a sucktastic team the past eight seasons.
Whats very interesting to me is that the Sunday Night Football Game where the Colts were down by 17 late in the game at INDY, how full were the stands there??
The answer is they were completely filled still, and saw no signs of people leaving early. Imagine if that was us being played in our stadium, i guaruntee you that the stands would be half empty. Hell even in our most lopsided victory of the year, we still had half empty crowds at the end.
No excuse really. They are both night games, same time zone, both cities had work the next day. The fact is Indy fans care more about there football team then Houston does.
You would he said, the next person to leave early he'll hurt or shoot them.
9 pages because schaub said the fans should've stayed. anybody disagree with his assessment? its very easy to be a fan when things are going well (cue the year 8 brigade) but the sign of good fans are how they react when things aren't going so well and the team needs the fans and (eventhough its not a popular thing to say) truth be told, the majority of texans fans have left down the team as often as the team has left us down
Whats very interesting to me is that the Sunday Night Football Game where the Colts were down by 17 late in the game at INDY, how full were the stands there??
The answer is they were completely filled still, and saw no signs of people leaving early. Imagine if that was us being played in our stadium, i guaruntee you that the stands would be half empty. Hell even in our most lopsided victory of the year, we still had half empty crowds at the end.
No excuse really. They are both night games, same time zone, both cities had work the next day. The fact is Indy fans care more about there football team then Houston does.
Whats very interesting to me is that the Sunday Night Football Game where the Colts were down by 17 late in the game at INDY, how full were the stands there??
The answer is they were completely filled still, and saw no signs of people leaving early. Imagine if that was us being played in our stadium, i guaruntee you that the stands would be half empty. Hell even in our most lopsided victory of the year, we still had half empty crowds at the end.
No excuse really. They are both night games, same time zone, both cities had work the next day. The fact is Indy fans care more about there football team then Houston does.
Im sorry but how many people stayed in their seats during the Texan Titan games where Bironas had a record number of FG. Majority of people had left.
So give me a valid excuse why you leave a game so early........who iam asking .....these are probably the same people who arrive late as well.
lol at everyone lashing out....All Matt did was answer the dude. The guy asked why you should stay till the end and Matt said real fans stick with their team, good and bad. I didn't hear a lecture to the fans and I didn't hear him say anything he shouldn't have stated. We always see people say, "I wish we had more than a cliché from our athletes" but when they give them something more sophisticated than "It's gut-check time", "we should just go out and execute", or "the fans are our 12th man", we come apart at the seams. Houston doesn't deserve sound bytes more in depth than a Biggio special aparently.
I thought we had a forum of tough minded Texans but it looks like we have "emotions on a sleeve metrosexual guy" who's gonna lash out like 'leave Brittney alone' guy.
lol at everyone lashing out....All Matt did was answer the dude. The guy asked why you should stay till the end and Matt said real fans stick with their team, good and bad. I didn't hear a lecture to the fans and I didn't hear him say anything he shouldn't have stated. We always see people say, "I wish we had more than a cliché from our athletes" but when they give them something more sophisticated than "It's gut-check time", "we should just go out and execute", or "the fans are our 12th man", we come apart at the seams. Houston doesn't deserve sound bytes more in depth than a Biggio special apparently.
I thought we had a forum of tough minded Texans but it looks like we have "emotions on a sleeve metrosexual guy" who's gonna lash out like 'leave Brittney alone' guy.
lol at everyone lashing out....All Matt did was answer the dude. The guy asked why you should stay till the end and Matt said real fans stick with their team, good and bad. I didn't hear a lecture to the fans and I didn't hear him say anything he shouldn't have stated. We always see people say, "I wish we had more than a cliché from our athletes" but when they give them something more sophisticated than "It's gut-check time", "we should just go out and execute", or "the fans are our 12th man", we come apart at the seams. Houston doesn't deserve sound bytes more in depth than a Biggio special apparently.
I thought we had a forum of tough minded Texans but it looks like we have "emotions on a sleeve metrosexual guy" who's gonna lash out like 'leave Brittney alone' guy.
lol at everyone lashing out....All Matt did was answer the dude. The guy asked why you should stay till the end and Matt said real fans stick with their team, good and bad. I didn't hear a lecture to the fans and I didn't hear him say anything he shouldn't have stated. We always see people say, "I wish we had more than a cliché from our athletes" but when they give them something more sophisticated than "It's gut-check time", "we should just go out and execute", or "the fans are our 12th man", we come apart at the seams. Houston doesn't deserve sound bytes more in depth than a Biggio special apparently.
I thought we had a forum of tough minded Texans but it looks like we have "emotions on a sleeve metrosexual guy" who's gonna lash out like 'leave Brittney alone' guy.
so basically what you advocate is for him to have just said, we luv u, go ahead and split 'cause buddy, "you are the 12th man", because as a paying customer "the ball's in your court". I certainly did "drop the ball" last Sunday so "it's gut-check time" for sure but we have the Jags coming up and "they don't pull any punches", so if "they want to play hardball", I must "execute better" and have to "answer the bell" come Sunday because I need to "pull my share", since "this is a team sport". Good question, that one was "right over the plate" even though it was a little too much "Monday-Morning Quarterback" for me.Good points, but this issue seems similar to his play on the field.
One half, Schaub plays great, and the other half he struggles and leaves you scratching your head.
It appears his poor decision making from time to time on the field is spilling over into interviews. Schaub should have just stayed away from the topic all together.
I could be connecting one too many dots here but I call'em like I see'em.
lol at everyone lashing out....All Matt did was answer the dude. The guy asked why you should stay till the end and Matt said real fans stick with their team, good and bad. I didn't hear a lecture to the fans and I didn't hear him say anything he shouldn't have stated. We always see people say, "I wish we had more than a cliché from our athletes" but when they give them something more sophisticated than "It's gut-check time", "we should just go out and execute", or "the fans are our 12th man", we come apart at the seams. Houston doesn't deserve sound bytes more in depth than a Biggio special apparently.
I thought we had a forum of tough minded Texans but it looks like we have "emotions on a sleeve metrosexual guy" who's gonna lash out like 'leave Brittney alone' guy.
so basically what you advocate is for him to have just said, we luv u, go ahead and split 'cause buddy, "you are the 12th man", because as a paying customer "the ball's in your court". I certainly did "drop the ball" last Sunday so "it's gut-check time" for sure but we have the Jags coming up and "they don't pull any punches", so if "they want to play hardball", I must "execute better" and have to "answer the bell" come Sunday because I need to "pull my share", since "this is a team sport". Good question, that one was "right over the plate" even though it was a little too much "Monday-Morning Quarterback" for me.
so basically what you advocate is for him to have just said, we luv u, go ahead and split but buddy "you are the 12th man", but "the ball's in your court", "drop the ball". "It's gut-check time" for sure but we have the Jags coming up and "they don't pull any punches", so if "they want to play hardball", I must "execute better" and have to "answer the bell" come Sunday because I need to "pull my share", since "this is a team sport". Good question, that one was "right over the plate" even though it was a little too much "Monday-Morning Quarterback" for me.
How much of this is on Matt? The play calling was changed in the second half and the O line stunck up the place. The D went bye bye IMO.
Well I finally got up and walked out after the pick6...I just could not take it anymore...Sooner or later we all will cross that line when we said we would never do it, and well Sunday was that day.
I cannot explain why, it was like I just couldn't stand it anymore and that I had to go. So I looked at my wife and said I'm thru...she gave me a look like what took me so long.
Anyways, nobody is a bigger fan than the next guy...some are just more obsessed by it, by thinking they have to be the best, buy all the stuff, tats, facepaint...yadda yadda.. we are all fans the same, just some need to be more outgoing.
No idea what I will feel on the 13th, just not sure how much I can take anymore of this season...
No excuse really. They are both night games, same time zone, both cities had work the next day. The fact is Indy fans care more about there football team then Houston does.
lol at everyone lashing out....All Matt did was answer the dude. The guy asked why you should stay till the end and Matt said real fans stick with their team, good and bad. I didn't hear a lecture to the fans and I didn't hear him say anything he shouldn't have stated. We always see people say, "I wish we had more than a cliché from our athletes" but when they give them something more sophisticated than "It's gut-check time", "we should just go out and execute", or "the fans are our 12th man", we come apart at the seams. Houston doesn't deserve sound bytes more in depth than a Biggio special apparently.
I thought we had a forum of tough minded Texans but it looks like we have "emotions on a sleeve metrosexual guy" who's gonna lash out like 'leave Brittney alone' guy.
They had more snaps because our D went bye bye and so did the O line. Agree?The play calling wasn't really changed until after the Colts took the lead. The problem was the Texans only took 7 snaps in the 3rd quarter. When you're behind in the 4th with 8 minutes left, is when the playcalling changed, my man.
It is interesting that fans leaving early are being focused on here when...
Kubiak needs another year...
Kris Brown can miss field goals...
Schaub throws ints...
Mediocre play by Dunte...
And I can go and on...
But, fans leave early, that needs to be addressed because that is key to the Texans winning!
Regardless of fans in the stands or not, the coaches and players should deliver because they are paid to do so from the fans, whether there or not, that pay the ticket prices.
I understand the issue with Houston fans, but it is pointless discussion when said team flops around half the game laying rotten eggs.
Schaub needs to focus on what he can control, which is his play on the field.
Thank you for posting that!
I think it's sad that we have some people on here who are just poo-poo'ing this and trying to act like it's no big deal.
so basically what you advocate is for him to have just said, we luv u, go ahead and split 'cause buddy, "you are the 12th man", because as a paying customer "the ball's in your court". I certainly did "drop the ball" last Sunday so "it's gut-check time" for sure but we have the Jags coming up and "they don't pull any punches", so if "they want to play hardball", I must "execute better" and have to "answer the bell" come Sunday because I need to "pull my share", since "this is a team sport". Good question, that one was "right over the plate" even though it was a little too much "Monday-Morning Quarterback" for me.
lol at everyone lashing out....All Matt did was answer the dude. The guy asked why you should stay till the end and Matt said real fans stick with their team, good and bad.
I find it hard to believe otherwise intelligent people are nitpicking Schaub's comments to this extent. I'm so disappointed in the fan base.& all he needed to say was, "it hurts... I'd be lying if I said anything different. We really view the fans as the 12th man, and when they leave us like that, it's like losing Andre or Steve, or Mario... whatever chance we had of winning gets a lot smaller. "
"I'm not blaming the fans for us not winning the game. But it just like losing OD in the 4th Qtr you know... how do you prepare for something like that?"
Schaub needs to focus on what he can control, which is his play on the field.
I find it hard to believe otherwise intelligent people are nitpicking Schaub's comments to this extent. I'm so disappointed in the fan base.
And by the same token, maybe we should stick to what we can control, & that's being in the stands, trying our damndest to intimidate the other team.
I find it hard to believe otherwise intelligent people are nitpicking Schaub's comments to this extent. I'm so disappointed in the fan base.
It's just an idiotic rant to take Schaub's comments out of context like this...it reminds me of your political takes. You may call it like you see it but try to mix a little cheese in with your indignant whine.Sorry, but I'm disappointed that you can't see how some people would be offended by the "fair weather fan" card, when there's been no fair weather - just a bunch of dumbasses standing out in the rain to watch a crappy football team. He could pretty much say whatever he wants, but the fair weather fan comments are horseshit, no matter who says it, and even moreso when it comes from him.
You call it like you see it, so do I.
It's just an idiotic rant to take Schaub's comments out of context like this...it reminds me of your political takes. You may call it like you see it but try to mix a little cheese in with your indignant whine.