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kingtexan said:
Didn't I hear he was in on one of the drug and rape situations his brother recently did?

Maybe he was bad after all ...
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Pretty sick stuff.

Darren Sharper, brother Jamie, subject of 2011 sexual misconduct probe in Miami Beach, police say


Manuel Torres, NOLA.com | The Times-Picayune. By Manuel Torres,
on February 20, 2014 at 12:12 PM, updated February 20, 2014 at 1:55 PM

Darren Sharper and his brother, Jamie, were investigated for sexual misconduct in Miami Beach in 2011, according to a police report detailing allegations made by two women.

The case led to no charges, after a doctor's examination found no evidence of sexual battery, the document say.

But police released the report Thursday, as it confirmed that Darren Sharper is now the subject of a new sexual battery investigation in Miami Beach. The revelation raises to eight the number of ongoing investigations of sexual crimes in recent months involving the former New Orleans Saints star safety.

Miami Beach Police Detective Vivian Hernandez confirmed that police has opened a criminal probe involving Sharper. The investigation was prompted by a complaint made earlier this year, Hernandez said, but she said the department could not release any details because the investigation is ongoing.

The previous investigation of Sharper in Miami Beach was prompted by a March 18, 2011, incident involving two Georgia women who were in Miami on spring break, according to the report from that 2011 probe.

The report said the women had gone to Sharper's condo, where other men were also present, and fallen asleep on a couch. One of the women said she woke up around 6 a.m. to find either Sharper or his brother, Jamie, "behaving inappropriately by exposing his penis and attempting to bring it close to her face," the police report said.

The woman told the man to leave her alone, and the man did, the police narrative said. The woman told police she then fell asleep again and woke up shortly after to find the same man, either Darren or Jamie Sharper, "attempting to lift her dress."

At this point the woman awoke the other Georgia woman and they both noticed their underwear has been removed while they were asleep, the report said.

The Georgia women were taken to a rape treatment center, but a doctor's examination found no evidence of sexual battery, so the case was closed, according to the report.

Authorities say Sharper is a resident of Miami Beach.

Sharper is to be arraigned Thursday (Feb. 20) in Los Angeles on rape and drug charges involving two women in separate incidents. He's also under investigation in five other alleged rapes, including one in New Orleans, two in Arizona and two in Nevada.

Sharper's attorney in New Orleans has said her client did nothing wrong. His attorney in California has said Sharper will be exonerated of the charges there. Jamie Sharper could not be reached for comment.
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I'm confused. The Texans defense was not good last year. The Texans sucked last season and you would think that the guys getting signed like Sharpton, Smith, Mitchell, McClain, Mays, and Braman wouldn't be in much demand.

I'm not all that concerned about how many are going out the door but why is there such a market for Texans defenders? Particularly guys that we're making no effort to keep?
 
Hervoyel said:
I'm not all that concerned about how many are going out the door but why is there such a market for Texans defenders? Particularly guys that we're making no effort to keep?
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Salary cap and some people's need to spend. Reid drafted Mays. Braman special teams. Ignoring injury history. Greater fools. Mitchell is young and projects well to a 4-3.

Some of these prices are just high, imo. Doubling downtrending guy's salaries. Not smart. Smarter budgeting when building allows for splashy need signings when you're closer to the prize.
 
I feel so bad for AJ we are in full rebuilding mode. If McNair thought we were retooling and contending he's wrong. We got a lot of holes to fill let alone improve at most positions.
 
Big Lou said:
I feel so bad for AJ we are in full rebuilding mode. If McNair thought we were retooling and contending he's wrong. We got a lot of holes to fill let alone improve at most positions.
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If the coaching was so bad, maybe we don't need a whole new roster. :kitten:
 
Big Lou said:
I feel so bad for AJ we are in full rebuilding mode. If McNair thought we were retooling and contending he's wrong. We got a lot of holes to fill let alone improve at most positions.
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That's why I keep saying (And constantly get flamed for it) trade Dre now while he has some value.
 
infantrycak said:
He deserves the contract he agreed to, there is no indication he wants to leave and the Texans will receive nothing near his value in trade. It makes zero sense.
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He is on the wrong side of 30 and his contract just escalates going forward. Trade him now, appreciate what he gave and move on.

Its the circle of life Simba.
 
infantrycak said:
He deserves the contract he agreed to, there is no indication he wants to leave and the Texans will receive nothing near his value in trade. It makes zero sense.
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I have never gotten scale quite correct between

1- the old player to take joy in sending away
2- the old player who is allowed to in relative terms allow to stay, leave or whatever with little notice or interest.
3- the old player who deserves to be traded for peanuts to a contender.
 
DX-TEX said:
He is on the wrong side of 30 and his contract just escalates going forward. Trade him now, appreciate what he gave and move on.

Its the circle of life Simba.
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Maybe if you would do a modicum of research it would help. His cap hit goes up just 500k in 2015 and then goes down a mil below his 2014 cap hit in 2016.

Instead of your proposal, in 2016 the smart thing would be restructure and extend him for 3 years to finish in Houston at high end #2 money which halves or more his cap hit.

FYI - The stretch AJ is entering is when Jerry Rice led the league in receiving 2 years and then led in receptions the 3rd (and then played another 8 seasons). He's 32, he's not dead. He'd have had another 1500 yd season last year if he hadn't had two monkeys fornicating a football rather than throwing it to him and he still ended up with 1407 yds.

And you want to give him up for what, a 2nd? Yeah, you're nucking futs.
 
DX-TEX said:
He is on the wrong side of 30 and his contract just escalates going forward. Trade him now, appreciate what he gave and move on.

Its the circle of life Simba.
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Andre decided he wanted to be a part of what we've got here. He hitched his wagon to Bob McNair & by extension, Gary Kubiak & Bill Obrien. He saw better than we ever have what was going on down on Kirby & he hitched his wagon to that pony not once, but 3 times.

I'm sure things have not worked out the way he wanted them to, but I'm sure he's willing to accept that.
 
DX-TEX said:
That's why I keep saying (And constantly get flamed for it) trade Dre now while he has some value.
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If, & only if, AJ asks to be traded would I trade him. He's still putting up incredible numbers & commands the attention of the opposition's #1 CB in every game. I understand what you mean, but AJ has to ask for it first.

I'm as frustrated as anyone on this board over how this off season is going thus far, but I have to believe they have a plan for turning this team around in short order. I'm not going to quit complaining about the fact we've lost 6 players (only 4 that I wanted to keep) so far with Tate to be added shortly & the only FA we've tried to bring in was a 1 year wonder. With all the media out there, we haven't been linked to any free agents or scheduled any visits. I would've been perfectly happy if we had just signed a starting RT. Another year of Newton is going to force me to glue some hair on my head so I can pull it out.:headhurts:
 
--DT Earl Mitchell: UFA Dolphins; $16M/4 yrs, $9M guaranteed.
--ILB Darryl Sharpton: UFA Redskins; terms unknown.
--DE Antonio Smith: UFA Raiders; $9M/2 yrs.
--ILB Joe Mays: UFA Chiefs; $6M/2 yrs.
--RB Ben Tate : UFA Browns

--DE Terrell McClain: Not tendered as RFA/Cowboys; 3 yrs, terms unknown.
--OLB Bryan Braman: Not tendered as RFA/Eagles; 2 yrs, terms unknown.

7 so far. The last 2 do not count towards Compensatory picks. So 5 so far.

May be Owen and Wade next....
 
As of this moment, Houston & St. Louis are the only two teams in the entire NFL that have not added even one player in free agency! I sure hope something happens next week. With no updates or communications from the front office, I'm starting to lose some of the excitement about the new regime.

Yea, yea, I know, I need to be patient. After all, we're only 35 days into free agency.:sarcasm::facepalm:
 
Hottoddie said:
As of this moment, Houston & St. Louis are the only two teams in the entire NFL that have not added even one player in free agency! I sure hope something happens next week. With no updates or communications from the front office, I'm starting to lose some of the excitement about the new regime.

Yea, yea, I know, I need to be patient. After all, we're only 35 days into free agency.:sarcasm::facepalm:
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They are doing the right thing by not spending on this years FA's. They aren't close , have no QB and are in cap hell. Might as well take your lumps in year 1 clearing the cap while getting your new coach and QB some on the job training.


I don't expect any significant FA signings this season .... maybe a couple bargain guys like Joe Mays was last season. Capable NFL talent on the cheap.
 
Corrosion said:
They are doing the right thing by not spending on this years FA's. They aren't close , have no QB and are in cap hell. Might as well take your lumps in year 1 clearing the cap while getting your new coach and QB some on the job training.


I don't expect any significant FA signings this season .... maybe a couple bargain guys like Joe Mays was last season. Capable NFL talent on the cheap.
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I agree they shouldn't (and didn't have the money) have gone hog wild, but there were several very good RT's available. Even though the better ones would've cost a little more, they were in their 20's & O'Linemen can typically play at a high level into their mid thirties. That would've made signing a RT a good investment. No matter who we put at QB, they won't succeed if they can't stay upright.
 
Hottoddie said:
I agree they shouldn't (and didn't have the money) have gone hog wild, but there were several very good RT's available. Even though the better ones would've cost a little more, they were in their 20's & O'Linemen can typically play at a high level into their mid thirties. That would've made signing a RT a good investment. No matter who we put at QB, they won't succeed if they can't stay upright.
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Maybe they feel good enough about Brennan Williams coming back and are planning on getting a RT somewhere in the draft which there are plenty of. I mean we did spend a 3rd round pick on Williams, and he does have NFL bloodlines. He might be the answer at that position, so why spend millions on a FA.
 
Corrosion said:
They are doing the right thing by not spending on this years FA's. They aren't close , have no QB and are in cap hell. Might as well take your lumps in year 1 clearing the cap while getting your new coach and QB some on the job training.


I don't expect any significant FA signings this season .... maybe a couple bargain guys like Joe Mays was last season. Capable NFL talent on the cheap.
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At this point this has to be the strategy. It makes sense. Now, do you trust them to make the right cheap one or two years signings is a whole different question?
 
Corrosion said:
They are doing the right thing by not spending on this years FA's. They aren't close , have no QB and are in cap hell. Might as well take your lumps in year 1 clearing the cap while getting your new coach and QB some on the job training.


I don't expect any significant FA signings this season .... maybe a couple bargain guys like Joe Mays was last season. Capable NFL talent on the cheap.
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There are no lumps to take, unless you cut Schaub, Andre, Jjo, Duane Brown, Arian, & Cushing. That's where our cap hell is. That's where our dead money is.

If we wait until next season to cut these players, there will be:

$13M . Brian Cushing
$7.0M. Andre Johnson
$7.0M. Matt Schaub
$5.0M. Duane Brown
$5.0M. Arian Foster
$3.8M. Johnathan Joseph

$40.8M next year if we don't cut these players now. Rebuilding doesn't start until you cut these players, at least Cushing, Andre, & Matt.

Those contracts are why we are in "cap hell"
 
steelbtexan said:
Not 1 above avg player in the bunch. Several below avg guys who may or nay not make it out of TC.
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Pretty sure they all make it out of camp, but I agree for the most part. I like Braman, but 610 was talking about him possibly having fell back into the bad crowd again and there being some concerns.

Hope he does well in Philly ... kid had heart.
 
steelbtexan said:
Not 1 above avg player in the bunch. Several below avg guys who may or nay not make it out of TC.
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Well you've collected a flock with your hyperbole. Smith, Mitchell and Tate are headed off to be starters. Smith and Mitchell are also both above average. Tate I would agree is average as a starter. In comparison to all the RBs in the NFL he is well above average.
 
infantrycak said:
Well you've collected a flock with your hyperbole. Smith, Mitchell and Tate are headed off to be starters. Smith and Mitchell are also both above average. Tate I would agree is average as a starter. In comparison to all the RBs in the NFL he is well above average.
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You've got to remember that Steelb is gonna be filled with hate as long as McNair owns the Texans... :kitten:
 
infantrycak said:
Well you've collected a flock with your hyperbole. Smith, Mitchell and Tate are headed off to be starters. Smith and Mitchell are also both above average. Tate I would agree is average as a starter. In comparison to all the RBs in the NFL he is well above average.
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Really, Smith is 32 yrs old and I can nae you 20 DE's I would take over him off of the top of my head. Mitchell wasn't even a good NT. Did you take a look at PFF's stats on avg gain running between the tackles? Ever wonder why Cushing struggles with injuries? Could it be that Mitchell cant keep OL off of Cushings knees?

Tate has the ability to be great, but he's.

1. Injury prone
2. Isn't good at catching the ball out of the backfield.
3. A fumbler

I hope Tate does well and he could be a steal for the Browns.

If the Texans have all of these above avg players how did they finish 2-14. I for one am glad they are letting people go and turning a new leaf.
 
JB said:
You've got to remember that Steelb is gonna be filled with hate as long as McNair owns the Texans... :kitten:
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Wrong,

I don't hate the owner. I just question his will to win over his will to make $$$$. This is shown by the lack of accountability. Why should anybody be held accountable when the owner keeps cashing those checks?

Obviously 3, 1-1's in 11 yrs should make fans question the owners leadership and the direction the franchise is headed.

That only seems reasonable to me. To you I'm a hater.
 
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steelbtexan said:
Wrong,

I don't hate the owner. I just question his will to win over his will to make $$$$. This is shown by the lack of accountability. Why should anybody be held accountable when the owner keeps cashing those checks?

Obviously 3, 1-1's in 11 yrs should make fans question the owners leadership and the direction the franchise is headed.

That only seems reasonable to me. To you I'm a hater.
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Seriously? You're trying to knock him for having 1-1 in the first year of an expansion franchise?

Christ, the last 1-1 was 7 drafts ago. They've only picked higher than 15th once in the last five drafts.

Get some therapy. Or drink a beer or three.

People wonder why the sports gods have cursed this town? Maybe it's because of the fans...
 
steelbtexan said:
Really, Smith is 32 yrs old and I can nae you 20 DE's I would take over him off of the top of my head.
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Smith is a solid player. Not anything special, but not a JAG either IMO. He's also slotted to be an interior rusher for Oakland, not a DE.

steelbtexan said:
Mitchell wasn't even a good NT. Did you take a look at PFF's stats on avg gain running between the tackles?
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That's probably because he's not a NT. He's a 3' tech pass rusher who was miscast as a NT in a system that didn't suit his skill set. I'm fairly confident he will have a good year in Miami and people around here will be stunned. He was no slouch coming out of college. Just misused.

steelbtexan said:
Ever wonder why Cushing struggles with injuries? Could it be that Mitchell cant keep OL off of Cushings knees?
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Pretty sure he struggled with injuries because he took a cheap-shot clip from behind for his first injury and misread a cut-block on his second injury. Neither play involved Mitchell so I fail to see where he fits into that equation.

steelbtexan said:
Tate has the ability to be great, but he's.

1. Injury prone
2. Isn't good at catching the ball out of the backfield.
3. A fumbler

I hope Tate does well and he could be a steal for the Browns.
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I agree on Tate. He's definitely a physical talent, but he has plenty of areas to improve on.
 
steelbtexan said:
Wrong,

I don't hate the owner. I just question his will to win over his will to make $$$$. This is shown by the lack of accountability. Why should anybody be held accountable when the owner keeps cashing those checks?

Obviously 3, 1-1's in 11 yrs should make fans question the owners leadership and the direction the franchise is headed.

That only seems reasonable to me. To you I'm a hater.
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I don't think you're a hater, that's why I put up the :kitten:

I do think you don't look at things objectively. Not many franchises have been to the SB in the first 12 years of their existence. I think Bob McNair is trying his best to provide this city with a winner. One that will win multiple super bowls. He's also having to learn. Thinking that he is in it only for the dollars is ludicrous. He wants to win as bad as you do. Unfortunately on the advice of people he trusted he made a bad decision on the two GM's he's hired. He did stick with both for too long, but turning them over too fast would be even worse. He's a hell of a lot better owner than Bud was

But you can keep on with your negativity, keeps things lively on here
 
steelbtexan said:
Ever wonder why Cushing struggles with injuries? Could it be that Mitchell cant keep OL off of Cushings knees?
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I totally agree with this. Totally legit argument.

Look everybody you can see Earl Mitchell end Cushing's 2012 season at this link.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o8iwf8J2LNw


In 2013 Mitchell ended Cushing's season by letting a RB run right into Cush's knee.

http://www.houstontexans.com/news/a...e-injury/501ffdde-8d38-4d0b-ba85-892f493eb11c

The most impressive part was that Mitchell managed to do this while not even being on the field for either play. Get that guy as far away from Houston as you can or Cushing may never play another down!
 
dc_txtech said:
The most impressive part was that Mitchell managed to do this while not even being on the field for either play. Get that guy as far away from Houston as you can or Cushing may never play another down!
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If Mitchell had been good enough he would have been in the game and Cushing wouldn't have been injured. :cool:
 
JB said:
I don't think you're a hater, that's why I put up the :kitten:

I do think you don't look at things objectively. Not many franchises have been to the SB in the first 12 years of their existence. I think Bob McNair is trying his best to provide this city with a winner. One that will win multiple super bowls. He's also having to learn. Thinking that he is in it only for the dollars is ludicrous. He wants to win as bad as you do. Unfortunately on the advice of people he trusted he made a bad decision on the two GM's he's hired. He did stick with both for too long, but turning them over too fast would be even worse. He's a hell of a lot better owner than Bud was

But you can keep on with your negativity, keeps things lively on here
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It is true I do set high expectations. I also do this in my life. How long should I wait before you believe he's in it for the $$$$? How long is it going to take him to learn to build a winner or want to win as bad as you think he does? A decade, 20 yrs, IYO, You know the owner is in his 70's he probably doesn't have more than 20 yrs left. Although his did is over 100 and I believe still living.

I'm just looking for a time frame that you would change your mind. Also Bud was one of McNaire best friends/business mentors. So they may be more alike than you or I would like to admit.
 
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