SkinsHomer
Practice Squad
For a team that was 30th against the run last year, you guys are banking a lot on a guy who has had one great game.
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SkinsHomer
Practice Squad
I seem to be the only one being treated with respect, your fellow fans are trashing my boys while only 2 are really trying to engage in conversation over there...
As far as I know, it's going to be gorgeous all weekend. Sunny, 80s. Hope it's not too hot for ya, I know you Texans don't know anything about heat
TexansForTheW
Waterboy
For a team that was 30th against the run last year, you guys are banking a lot on a guy who has had one great game.
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One great game.(Arian Foster) Had 97 yards and a TD against the Dolphins last year. 110 yards and 2 td's against the Pats last year. Come here with better ammo. Im sure you didn't watch the preseason either when he ran well against the Saints and Cowboys as well. Im confident Foster will put up well over a 100 yards if your run defense does not improve from what it looked like last week. Difference between the Cowboys and the Texans so far, if we find success in the run game, we are going to commit. Bring more men in the box and we will suck the safeties in and let Andre Johnson run by your corners. Im looking forward to Sunday.
Texan_Bill
Hall of Fame
For a team that was 30th against the run last year, you guys are banking a lot on a guy who has had one great game.
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Ummmm,
You are aware that the Texans tied for 10th against the run last season AND this after a horrible first 3 or 4 games that we got dinged hard, no?? Y'all were ranked 16th against the run. NFL.com Statistics Rushing Defense
For a team that was 30th against the run last year, you guys are banking a lot on a guy who has had one great game.
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If you really know the NFL, you'll know that going on last year's record/trends is not a good bet. Smith and Kubiak have had an overall mindset when acquiring new players: they have to be tough, smart and physical. It hasn't happened over night, but there are signs (even beyond last week's obvious domination of the LOS) that the Texans are reaching critical mass and turning into a real physical football team.
We can't expect Skins fans to know that kind of detailed stuff, but ya'll might be in for a big surprise next week if you think the Skins are the only ones who can play smashmouth ball. It'll be a good test for us, and it should be a great game.
TimeKiller
Guest
Texans O/Redskin D-Shoot, I don't think anybody is going to stop Foster/Leach/OL if they wanna show up like that. Even against a decent D I'm calling Foster for triple digits on the ground and the aerial assault to shape up. I don't think they'll be skipping passing plays to shove it down the throats of a demoralized defense but I do think they'll break a few. Matt and Andre are going to have a big day.
Texans D/Redskins O-Now....even if Shanahan thinks he knows Gary and Jr. thinks he knows Frank bush....WHO IN THE ****ING HELL PLAYS FOR THEIR OFFENSE BESIDES DONOVAN MCNABB?!?!?!? Clinton Portis? Teh-shutzdownd. Please. Who receives passing attempts that's worth the pig they cut up to make the football? McNabb throwing over the line and comically running around to receive the ball as well? Horsey Pie. Redskins won't score 14. Maybe 10. Even if they get a LUCKY bounce or fumble and score 20 points...The Texans have been averaging about 60 points a game for 2 years. Maybe not a steamroll scorefest blowout but I'm looking Texans by a score of 24-13.
Texans D/Redskins O-Now....even if Shanahan thinks he knows Gary and Jr. thinks he knows Frank bush....WHO IN THE ****ING HELL PLAYS FOR THEIR OFFENSE BESIDES DONOVAN MCNABB?!?!?!? Clinton Portis? Teh-shutzdownd. Please. Who receives passing attempts that's worth the pig they cut up to make the football? McNabb throwing over the line and comically running around to receive the ball as well? Horsey Pie. Redskins won't score 14. Maybe 10. Even if they get a LUCKY bounce or fumble and score 20 points...The Texans have been averaging about 60 points a game for 2 years. Maybe not a steamroll scorefest blowout but I'm looking Texans by a score of 24-13.
SkinsHomer
Practice Squad
Ok, one more, then I'm goin to bed.
You guys are calling us dumbasses...what's the difference? Note, I said none of that. I'm not here to talk ****.
The first of many things that make me think you're the same exact type of homer that many of you are calling my boys on our board.
Who cares if Brady was in that game or not? Was he lined up at LB trying to stop Foster?
Not nice.
You mean "their" overconfidence right? That's what I thought, just checkin. A bad Cowboys team, right. They're overrated and played badly against us, I admit they didn't bring their A game, but they're not a bad team. For bad teams, see Tampa Bay.
I see what you did there. I'm glad you caught yourself though.
I'll be more than happy to resume this CONVERSATION tomorrow.
You guys are calling us dumbasses...what's the difference? Note, I said none of that. I'm not here to talk ****.
The first of many things that make me think you're the same exact type of homer that many of you are calling my boys on our board.
Who cares if Brady was in that game or not? Was he lined up at LB trying to stop Foster?
LMFAO at one guy talking about the Texans coming by to look at their trophies. That's like Rocket fan trying to bag on Oklahoma City fan...What dumbasses!!
Not nice.
You mean "their" overconfidence right? That's what I thought, just checkin. A bad Cowboys team, right. They're overrated and played badly against us, I admit they didn't bring their A game, but they're not a bad team. For bad teams, see Tampa Bay.
I see what you did there. I'm glad you caught yourself though.
I'll be more than happy to resume this CONVERSATION tomorrow.
I dont count a game we lost, but the Pats game was a big turning point, IMO.
Texan_Bill
Hall of Fame
Dumbass question, but no, he wasn't. Junior Seau was. Wasn't he a starter?? As I said, the defensive starters played.... Quit buying into BSPN and do some research. YOU seem like a cool enough guy, quit buying into the national media douche.baggery that most fans around the country buy into because of them.... I thought you were better than that.
TexansForTheW
Waterboy
The Cowboys played horrible, horrible, and horrible. That offensive display on Sunday night made me fall asleep. The defense was nothing amazing, it looked like two teams who were trying to lose a game. I think the Redskins will make the playoffs this year. There is a much bigger gap between the Skins and Texans offenses then the Skins and Texan's defenses. Most of your fans have not watched a Texan game this year or anything close to it. You will be surprised come Sunday. I see potential in the Skins because of the offensive system they run.
For a team that was 30th against the run last year, you guys are banking a lot on a guy who has had one great game.
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I can't quite believe no one has caught this yet, but we were 30th in the run last year, but I believe we finished the year 13th against the run.
I think that our running game can continue to flourish, and I have no concerns about our run defense.
Texan_Bill
Hall of Fame
Ummmm,
Y'all were ranked 16th against the run. NFL.com Statistics Rushing Defense
You drunk sumbitch!!
See my post about us against the run, we tied for 10th against the run.........
We finished at 13th in TOTAL defense.
And again, this was after a horrible first three or four games!
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No fun without SkinsHomer!
The Cowboys played horrible, sure, but you would have to credit the Redskins defense.
Coming into this season the Cowboys have had one of the most explosive offenses over the past few seasons.
They have "played bad" and still put up 21 points on teams with lesser defense.
There is a reason the Cowboys could not hit on big plays downfield, with the exception of their final drive and the big pass to Miles Austin.
Andre Johnson is a better WR then anyone on the Cowboys roster could ever hope to be, I'll give you guys that, but I am sure much of the focus of our secondary will be covering him with help from a safety over the top, to take away big play potential. He will probably still have a decent game, as most elite WRs still beat double coverage at times.
As far as Foster. To me the effectiveness of the running game is also going to come down to what the score is in the second half of the game. If the Texans are up, they will use Foster to try and wear down the Skins, set up for playaction. However if the game is tied or the Texans are behind, they will do what any other team would do and abandon the running game altogether.
To me, the biggest X factor in this game is the 'Skins offense. When you have a new coordinator and new QB, there are going to be struggles, but also there will be times where things seem to get on track ahead of time.
If the 'Skins can score 21-24 points on Sunday, I think they will win.
The Texans have a decent offense, but it is not a powerhouse. The 'Skins defense over the past few seasons has held better offenses to under 21 points, but the 'Skins offense was so horrible they could barely muster 17 points themselves.
As a 'Skins fan, I am not worried about our defense, I think we can handle or at least keep the damage to a minimum. It comes down to our offense and if we can put the ball in the endzone three times.
Coming into this season the Cowboys have had one of the most explosive offenses over the past few seasons.
They have "played bad" and still put up 21 points on teams with lesser defense.
There is a reason the Cowboys could not hit on big plays downfield, with the exception of their final drive and the big pass to Miles Austin.
Andre Johnson is a better WR then anyone on the Cowboys roster could ever hope to be, I'll give you guys that, but I am sure much of the focus of our secondary will be covering him with help from a safety over the top, to take away big play potential. He will probably still have a decent game, as most elite WRs still beat double coverage at times.
As far as Foster. To me the effectiveness of the running game is also going to come down to what the score is in the second half of the game. If the Texans are up, they will use Foster to try and wear down the Skins, set up for playaction. However if the game is tied or the Texans are behind, they will do what any other team would do and abandon the running game altogether.
To me, the biggest X factor in this game is the 'Skins offense. When you have a new coordinator and new QB, there are going to be struggles, but also there will be times where things seem to get on track ahead of time.
If the 'Skins can score 21-24 points on Sunday, I think they will win.
The Texans have a decent offense, but it is not a powerhouse. The 'Skins defense over the past few seasons has held better offenses to under 21 points, but the 'Skins offense was so horrible they could barely muster 17 points themselves.
As a 'Skins fan, I am not worried about our defense, I think we can handle or at least keep the damage to a minimum. It comes down to our offense and if we can put the ball in the endzone three times.
buddyboy
Rookie
The Cowboys played horrible, sure, but you would have to credit the Redskins defense.
Coming into this season the Cowboys have had one of the most explosive offenses over the past few seasons.
They have "played bad" and still put up 21 points on teams with lesser defense.
There is a reason the Cowboys could not hit on big plays downfield, with the exception of their final drive and the big pass to Miles Austin.
Andre Johnson is a better WR then anyone on the Cowboys roster could ever hope to be, I'll give you guys that, but I am sure much of the focus of our secondary will be covering him with help from a safety over the top, to take away big play potential. He will probably still have a decent game, as most elite WRs still beat double coverage at times.
As far as Foster. To me the effectiveness of the running game is also going to come down to what the score is in the second half of the game. If the Texans are up, they will use Foster to try and wear down the Skins, set up for playaction. However if the game is tied or the Texans are behind, they will do what any other team would do and abandon the running game altogether.
To me, the biggest X factor in this game is the 'Skins offense. When you have a new coordinator and new QB, there are going to be struggles, but also there will be times where things seem to get on track ahead of time.
If the 'Skins can score 21-24 points on Sunday, I think they will win.
The Texans have a decent offense, but it is not a powerhouse. The 'Skins defense over the past few seasons has held better offenses to under 21 points, but the 'Skins offense was so horrible they could barely muster 17 points themselves.
As a 'Skins fan, I am not worried about our defense, I think we can handle or at least keep the damage to a minimum. It comes down to our offense and if we can put the ball in the endzone three times.
We have a decent offense, but not a powerhouse? We were the number 1 passing attack last year, WITHOUT out pro-bowl caliber TE. This past Sunday we showed that we can run the ball. Albeit, Foster will most likely never repeat a performance like that, and in fact, he'll probably struggle this year at times, but combine a possible potent running attack with last years number 1 passing attack and you come up with...
a decent offense, but not a powerhouse????
The Cowboys played horrible, sure, but you would have to credit the Redskins defense.
Coming into this season the Cowboys have had one of the most explosive offenses over the past few seasons.
They have "played bad" and still put up 21 points on teams with lesser defense.
There is a reason the Cowboys could not hit on big plays downfield, with the exception of their final drive and the big pass to Miles Austin.
Andre Johnson is a better WR then anyone on the Cowboys roster could ever hope to be, I'll give you guys that, but I am sure much of the focus of our secondary will be covering him with help from a safety over the top, to take away big play potential. He will probably still have a decent game, as most elite WRs still beat double coverage at times.
As far as Foster. To me the effectiveness of the running game is also going to come down to what the score is in the second half of the game. If the Texans are up, they will use Foster to try and wear down the Skins, set up for playaction. However if the game is tied or the Texans are behind, they will do what any other team would do and abandon the running game altogether.
To me, the biggest X factor in this game is the 'Skins offense. When you have a new coordinator and new QB, there are going to be struggles, but also there will be times where things seem to get on track ahead of time.
If the 'Skins can score 21-24 points on Sunday, I think they will win.
The Texans have a decent offense, but it is not a powerhouse. The 'Skins defense over the past few seasons has held better offenses to under 21 points, but the 'Skins offense was so horrible they could barely muster 17 points themselves.
As a 'Skins fan, I am not worried about our defense, I think we can handle or at least keep the damage to a minimum. It comes down to our offense and if we can put the ball in the endzone three times.
Welcome aboard. I thought you were making a lot of sense, and I was actually lulled into the impression that you were a true football fan, until I got to the bolded statements. You have very obviously not watched many Texans games, or know much about our team at all. Your 'skins have not faced a team with a dyanamic offense as ours since the triplett days.
Ok, my mistake, however the NFL measures offense in terms of yardage, not scoring. You can gain a lot of yards and come away with three or zero points depending on the defense you are going against. If you are pinned on your own 10 yard line, or 20 even, you can rack up a good 50 yards of offense on that drive and still come away with no points.
I believe Houston was #11 in Scoring offense in 2009. Am I off there too?
Like I said, I am talking about points, not how much yardage the Texans will rack up.
I believe a couple of years ago the Lions under Mike Martz made a dramatic improvement in their passing offense according to yardage, but it didn't translate into many points or wins.
Vinnie
with an I E
The Cowboys played horrible, sure, but you would have to credit the Redskins defense.
Coming into this season the Cowboys have had one of the most explosive offenses over the past few seasons.
They have "played bad" and still put up 21 points on teams with lesser defense.
There is a reason the Cowboys could not hit on big plays downfield, with the exception of their final drive and the big pass to Miles Austin.
Andre Johnson is a better WR then anyone on the Cowboys roster could ever hope to be, I'll give you guys that, but I am sure much of the focus of our secondary will be covering him with help from a safety over the top, to take away big play potential. He will probably still have a decent game, as most elite WRs still beat double coverage at times.
As far as Foster. To me the effectiveness of the running game is also going to come down to what the score is in the second half of the game. If the Texans are up, they will use Foster to try and wear down the Skins, set up for playaction. However if the game is tied or the Texans are behind, they will do what any other team would do and abandon the running game altogether.
To me, the biggest X factor in this game is the 'Skins offense. When you have a new coordinator and new QB, there are going to be struggles, but also there will be times where things seem to get on track ahead of time.
If the 'Skins can score 21-24 points on Sunday, I think they will win.
The Texans have a decent offense, but it is not a powerhouse. The 'Skins defense over the past few seasons has held better offenses to under 21 points, but the 'Skins offense was so horrible they could barely muster 17 points themselves.
As a 'Skins fan, I am not worried about our defense, I think we can handle or at least keep the damage to a minimum. It comes down to our offense and if we can put the ball in the endzone three times.
To begin with, Romo sucks, and to my second point have you watched Jacoby Jones? Not to mention that Walter fella. There's also this kid named Anderson that's caught a ball or two.
Tailgate
Fall of Hame
And in comes the running game. Thats been the missing link for 3rd and shorts, extending drives, and efficiency in the redzone.
Last week it was all run. The passing game was out of sync. I am anxious to see both parts come together. It could be downright scary.
I'm anxious to see both parts, fall apart....I mean....just sayin' haha....
I think it will be a pretty good game though either way, and I hope both teams bring the intensity, because both teams just got a huge win over divisional rivals, so either team could be seen as walking into a "trap" game.
Oh and hey I went to the Skins/Texans game in Houston in 2006(my best friend moved to Houston a few years ago) I really like the stadium. I was in the corner in the upper deck, and the view was fantastic. I got to watch Andre Johnson completely abuse on of our cornerbacks on a big TD pass from Carr. Of course then the game kind of turned in our favor, but still....that is history now!
Vinnie
with an I E
Exactly, see the Texans v. Colts to start the season as an example.
TexansForTheW
Waterboy
The Cowboys played horrible, sure, but you would have to credit the Redskins defense.
Coming into this season the Cowboys have had one of the most explosive offenses over the past few seasons.
They have "played bad" and still put up 21 points on teams with lesser defense.
There is a reason the Cowboys could not hit on big plays downfield, with the exception of their final drive and the big pass to Miles Austin.
Andre Johnson is a better WR then anyone on the Cowboys roster could ever hope to be, I'll give you guys that, but I am sure much of the focus of our secondary will be covering him with help from a safety over the top, to take away big play potential. He will probably still have a decent game, as most elite WRs still beat double coverage at times.
As far as Foster. To me the effectiveness of the running game is also going to come down to what the score is in the second half of the game. If the Texans are up, they will use Foster to try and wear down the Skins, set up for playaction. However if the game is tied or the Texans are behind, they will do what any other team would do and abandon the running game altogether.
To me, the biggest X factor in this game is the 'Skins offense. When you have a new coordinator and new QB, there are going to be struggles, but also there will be times where things seem to get on track ahead of time.
If the 'Skins can score 21-24 points on Sunday, I think they will win.
The Texans have a decent offense, but it is not a powerhouse. The 'Skins defense over the past few seasons has held better offenses to under 21 points, but the 'Skins offense was so horrible they could barely muster 17 points themselves.
As a 'Skins fan, I am not worried about our defense, I think we can handle or at least keep the damage to a minimum. It comes down to our offense and if we can put the ball in the endzone three times.
Wait so you just called our offense decent.? Well if our offense is leaps in bounds above your Redskin's offense, then that makes your O what? And your hopeful for 24 points? That was comical.
The Pencil Neck
Hall of Fame
The Cowboys played horrible, sure, but you would have to credit the Redskins defense.
Coming into this season the Cowboys have had one of the most explosive offenses over the past few seasons.
They have "played bad" and still put up 21 points on teams with lesser defense.
There is a reason the Cowboys could not hit on big plays downfield, with the exception of their final drive and the big pass to Miles Austin.
Andre Johnson is a better WR then anyone on the Cowboys roster could ever hope to be, I'll give you guys that, but I am sure much of the focus of our secondary will be covering him with help from a safety over the top, to take away big play potential. He will probably still have a decent game, as most elite WRs still beat double coverage at times.
As far as Foster. To me the effectiveness of the running game is also going to come down to what the score is in the second half of the game. If the Texans are up, they will use Foster to try and wear down the Skins, set up for playaction. However if the game is tied or the Texans are behind, they will do what any other team would do and abandon the running game altogether.
To me, the biggest X factor in this game is the 'Skins offense. When you have a new coordinator and new QB, there are going to be struggles, but also there will be times where things seem to get on track ahead of time.
If the 'Skins can score 21-24 points on Sunday, I think they will win.
The Texans have a decent offense, but it is not a powerhouse. The 'Skins defense over the past few seasons has held better offenses to under 21 points, but the 'Skins offense was so horrible they could barely muster 17 points themselves.
As a 'Skins fan, I am not worried about our defense, I think we can handle or at least keep the damage to a minimum. It comes down to our offense and if we can put the ball in the endzone three times.
Welcome to the board, man.
You've got a good defense but it's going to face a sterner test than it got last week.
To me, this is no longer the Cowboy team that could play bad and expect to put up 21 points even though the Cowboys THINK they're still that team. This Cowboy team that you played was exactly the same Cowboy team we played in the preseason: a poorly coached, unfocused team. The fact that you guys held them to 7 points wasn't that big of a surprise.
We, of course, think our offense is much, much more potent than the Cowboy offense. Last year, we didn't have a true running threat until the last couple of games when Foster came in and showed how it should be done and Schaub still threw for 4770 yards (leading the league) and AJ caught over 1500 yards (leading the league) and when Owen Daniels went down, he was leading the league in catches and yards for all tight ends. Schaub is usually great against blitzes and people were biting on his run fakes even when he didn't have a running game. We had problems in the Red Zone because of that lack of a running game and we think we've fixed that.
We don't expect to run for 200 yards a game. But Schaub averaged 290 yards a game last season and with a 100 yard a game back, we're going to be hard to stop.
On the other side of the ball, your offense is a work in progress and I don't think it's anywhere near the level of the Colts. I like Donovan McNabb and I like Clinton Portis. But I don't think that the poor showing they had last week was entirely because of how great the Cowboy defense is. I don't think McNabb has the targets he needs and I don't think the whole offense has gelled, yet.
I think you're going to find our defense better than you expect. We do have some young corners but we've got a good pass rush and we were knocking Manning around last week and we weren't dialing up our blitzes because it was Manning. Manning only got his yards after we went into prevent and he was able to tear us up underneath.
So... I'm feeling really good about our chances against you guys.
But, I totally understand you feeling good about your chances against us.
Ok. I see you want to talk stats? The Texans were 10th in scoring offense last year. That includes being 30th in rushing yds per game. The 'skins were 26th in scoring last year, including 27th in rushing and 16th in passing.
Defensively the Texans were 17th in scoring defense to
Washingtons 18th. Houston was tied for 11th in rush defense, while Washington was 16th. The one advantage Washington had was in pass defense, where they were 10.6 yds per game better than the Texans.
And you have improved your team how?
TexansForTheW
Waterboy
All week im sure Redskin fans were talking about how overrated the Cowboys were. The Redskins win and now the Cowboys are a great team that the Redskins beat. I am confused, which one is it?
Houston_Fanatic
Maximum
No, you are exactly right. We can move the ball but have struggled in the red zone. With a tougher defense against the run this week I think we still struggle when we get inside the 20.
Oh - and thanks for beating the Cowgirls..... that was sweeeet.
I am hoping our team has matured and doesn't have a letdown after our win over the colts - we'll see on Sunday - should be a great game!
The Pencil Neck
Hall of Fame
We were 10th in scoring without a running game. That lack of a running game hurt us in the Red Zone. We've got a running game this year.
We scored 24.2 points a game last year. The Cowboys scored 22.6 points a game last year. And the Redskins scored 16.6 points a game last year.
We will be scoring more than that this year.
TexansForTheW
Waterboy
Donovan McNabb is a wildcard. We run the same system against the Cowboys a few weeks earlier and we picked them apart. Redskins could not move the ball to save their lives. I dont understand the confidence they have on offense when the only touchdown they scored was by a fluke play at the end of the half on a fumble return. Keep telling yourself the Cowboys defense is better. Our pass rush is better, we lead the league in run defense, and we gave up two td's and 150 passing yards playing a prevent defense that was soft in the flats, which allowed Indy to SLOWLY move the ball down the field and kill there own clock.
Texan_Bill
Hall of Fame
The Cowboys played horrible, sure, but you would have to credit the Redskins defense.
Coming into this season the Cowboys have had one of the most explosive offenses over the past few seasons.
They have "played bad" and still put up 21 points on teams with lesser defense.
There is a reason the Cowboys could not hit on big plays downfield, with the exception of their final drive and the big pass to Miles Austin.
Andre Johnson is a better WR then anyone on the Cowboys roster could ever hope to be, I'll give you guys that, but I am sure much of the focus of our secondary will be covering him with help from a safety over the top, to take away big play potential. He will probably still have a decent game, as most elite WRs still beat double coverage at times.
As far as Foster. To me the effectiveness of the running game is also going to come down to what the score is in the second half of the game. If the Texans are up, they will use Foster to try and wear down the Skins, set up for playaction. However if the game is tied or the Texans are behind, they will do what any other team would do and abandon the running game altogether.
To me, the biggest X factor in this game is the 'Skins offense. When you have a new coordinator and new QB, there are going to be struggles, but also there will be times where things seem to get on track ahead of time.
If the 'Skins can score 21-24 points on Sunday, I think they will win.
The Texans have a decent offense, but it is not a powerhouse. The 'Skins defense over the past few seasons has held better offenses to under 21 points, but the 'Skins offense was so horrible they could barely muster 17 points themselves.
As a 'Skins fan, I am not worried about our defense, I think we can handle or at least keep the damage to a minimum. It comes down to our offense and if we can put the ball in the endzone three times.
I'm so worried about Moss and 67 year old Joey Galloway!!!
This comes down to the "the Teacher v. the Student" (Shanahan v. Kubiak)..... sorta!!!! It really comes down to which can come up with a little wrinkle that the other can't.....
On paper the Skins have a better defense.... Well, do they really??? I'm not so sure.
The fun part is this..... That's why they play the games.
The game the game winds up with the Texans winning 27-21....
Thank you! 'Skins fan is talking out his ass, and while he is certainly entitled to do so, I appreciate the help in dispelling his delusions...
Texan_Bill
Hall of Fame
Playbook is on again, NFLN!!
I don't know that it will be a question of being lax. We weren't lax against NYJets last year, we just got our butts whipped.
Washington was doing some pretty "innovative" things on defense Sunday night, with a seasoned group of guys. & our passing game isn't in sync.
Say, that reminds me. McNabb kicked our ass 4 years ago. Mario & Demeco both were on that team. Granted Mario has more help this time around, but McNabb is quite capable of putting up 400 yards on our defense.
It's not that I think we can't beat them. Just that it's going to take more than just effort.
GuerillaBlack
Hall of Fame
You're comparing the (younger) McNabb team that had just went to the Super Bowl, with the current (older) McNabb team that went 4-12 last year? Mario and DeMeco were both rookies back then, too. Oh, and the Texans definitely didn't come out with any fire against the Jets last season.
I'm not being disrespectful when I say this but Washington doesn't have to weapons to stay with the Texans. The main reason is Portis. He doesn't scare anyone anymore. He goes down to easily and he's slow. Kyle will do nice things at some point but I don't think its going to be this year.
I've been over to extremeskins lurking and the one thing I've noticed is that skins fans seem to think that Dallas was a legitimate team. They looked terrible in the preseason. Is their talent on par with the Texans? Maybe. But they have ZERO discipline. You saw that on the last drive of the half and the game. If they don't completely lose their minds in those two cases the game is over. The Cowboys are a team that will shoot themselves in the foot every time they get a chance because they don't have any sort of discipline. We know a thing or two about that. We've seen meltdowns the size of which people in Washington could only imagine.
Kyle is installing a new system... Mcnabb is learning a new system as are all of the Skins. Next year y'all can be a force to be reckoned with but I don't think this is the year. Defensively you'll stay in a lot of games and have a shot to win (Houston heard that for a long time, we feel your pain) but you're not going to routinely put up 3 TDs a game. If Mcnabb was capable of running wild I would give him a shot to shake things up but I don't think that y'all want him running all over the field with that ankle.
The Texans on the other hand played the game the Colts wanted them to... they ran the ball... and STILL put up 34 pts. Our offense wasn't clicking and we only got one turnover. Mcnabb is inaccurate (I don't believe he completed 50% of his passes last week) and I think y'all will turn the ball over two times at least. The offense looked pretty good (with the exception of the Saints game) this preseason and we have no real reason to believe that Schaub and Co forgot how to pass the ball. They were just not in rhythm part of that was a problem getting into the rhythm because we ran so much.
On defense. I think we're ok. If we were going to be shoving 8 in the box all night I might feel differently but I don't think you see Mccnab run to Marios side very much and I'm really not worried about 2010 version of Portis. That means you will see safety help and maybe even a safety (Pollard?) covering Cooley on occasion. One thing that Bush has done this year has been mix up the line more. Mcnabb is coming into a system he doesn't know real well and you've got to believe his first job is to identify Mario. Well we watched Mario moving all over the line presnap. It is an advantage that is usually reserved for the 3-4 in that it is confusing.
On defense for you guys. I don't know. If Kubes comes out and runs the ball 3x for 15 yards on the first drive. You're in trouble. If you bring 8 in the box you're going to get killed with play action... if you sit back Arian will hit 150.
Its weird to be in this situation (ask anyone on the board, i've been called the debbie downer of the board for years...) but Washington isn't that far ahead of where we were when we were 2-14. They are probably in our 6-10 year (though I think y'all win more than we did because you don't have the Colts 2x a year). Developmentally though, you're in the same place. New system... some new personnel...
As for the coaching difference. Y'all know our offense... some of it... but we have some wrinkles too. So we know our gameplans... That means that our defense is going to face what your offense hopes to be in 2 or 3 years(in practice this week). Your defense gets to face what we were 2 or 3 years ago offensively.
I don't think it will be a blowout. The 12th man will come into play as long as its reasonably close. But I think if Houston loses this game they do so out of either immaturity or because they look ahead. Oh yeah... if we turn the ball over we're in trouble (and the sky is blue).
Don't worry though. We're going to kill the cowpies when they come in town.
Mike
I've been over to extremeskins lurking and the one thing I've noticed is that skins fans seem to think that Dallas was a legitimate team. They looked terrible in the preseason. Is their talent on par with the Texans? Maybe. But they have ZERO discipline. You saw that on the last drive of the half and the game. If they don't completely lose their minds in those two cases the game is over. The Cowboys are a team that will shoot themselves in the foot every time they get a chance because they don't have any sort of discipline. We know a thing or two about that. We've seen meltdowns the size of which people in Washington could only imagine.
Kyle is installing a new system... Mcnabb is learning a new system as are all of the Skins. Next year y'all can be a force to be reckoned with but I don't think this is the year. Defensively you'll stay in a lot of games and have a shot to win (Houston heard that for a long time, we feel your pain) but you're not going to routinely put up 3 TDs a game. If Mcnabb was capable of running wild I would give him a shot to shake things up but I don't think that y'all want him running all over the field with that ankle.
The Texans on the other hand played the game the Colts wanted them to... they ran the ball... and STILL put up 34 pts. Our offense wasn't clicking and we only got one turnover. Mcnabb is inaccurate (I don't believe he completed 50% of his passes last week) and I think y'all will turn the ball over two times at least. The offense looked pretty good (with the exception of the Saints game) this preseason and we have no real reason to believe that Schaub and Co forgot how to pass the ball. They were just not in rhythm part of that was a problem getting into the rhythm because we ran so much.
On defense. I think we're ok. If we were going to be shoving 8 in the box all night I might feel differently but I don't think you see Mccnab run to Marios side very much and I'm really not worried about 2010 version of Portis. That means you will see safety help and maybe even a safety (Pollard?) covering Cooley on occasion. One thing that Bush has done this year has been mix up the line more. Mcnabb is coming into a system he doesn't know real well and you've got to believe his first job is to identify Mario. Well we watched Mario moving all over the line presnap. It is an advantage that is usually reserved for the 3-4 in that it is confusing.
On defense for you guys. I don't know. If Kubes comes out and runs the ball 3x for 15 yards on the first drive. You're in trouble. If you bring 8 in the box you're going to get killed with play action... if you sit back Arian will hit 150.
Its weird to be in this situation (ask anyone on the board, i've been called the debbie downer of the board for years...) but Washington isn't that far ahead of where we were when we were 2-14. They are probably in our 6-10 year (though I think y'all win more than we did because you don't have the Colts 2x a year). Developmentally though, you're in the same place. New system... some new personnel...
As for the coaching difference. Y'all know our offense... some of it... but we have some wrinkles too. So we know our gameplans... That means that our defense is going to face what your offense hopes to be in 2 or 3 years(in practice this week). Your defense gets to face what we were 2 or 3 years ago offensively.
I don't think it will be a blowout. The 12th man will come into play as long as its reasonably close. But I think if Houston loses this game they do so out of either immaturity or because they look ahead. Oh yeah... if we turn the ball over we're in trouble (and the sky is blue).
Don't worry though. We're going to kill the cowpies when they come in town.
Mike
Allstar
Bona fide
I know GB already touched on this, but seriously? Why would you bring up the last Eagles game? You are talking a 4-years younger McNabb on a completely different team. Not even a "completely different team" in a sense of "that was four years ago, they're a different team now" sort of way, I mean that was the 2006 Eagles, and this is the 2010 Redskins (who won 4 games last year). Not only that, but it was our first game under Kubiak, our first game after a 2-14 season, and Mario and Demeco's very first game in their rookie year.
Texan_Bill
Hall of Fame
GB.... While I didn't sign on to the skins boards, you should know that I had your back on this board!!!! What asshats over there my brother!!
You handled yourself really well!!!!!!!!!!!! REP if I could!!!!!!!!!
You handled yourself really well!!!!!!!!!!!! REP if I could!!!!!!!!!
GuerillaBlack
Hall of Fame
Thanks man! It's been a interesting reading what they think of us over there. I think the euphoria of the Cowboys win has settled and more realistic predictions have started coming in. I just don't see how Washington beats us, unless we play down to their level. The Texans have more talent at just about every position over Washington.
How long did it take you to get on the board? I registered this morning still can't post. (I did the email confirmation)
Mike
GuerillaBlack
Hall of Fame
I think I registered Sunday after the Colts game and during the Sunday night game, I could post.
GuerillaBlack
Hall of Fame
This will be McNabb's reaction after the game:
Texan_Touchdown
Noob
IMO, I didn't see their game, but if they we're blitzing get ready for 5 step drop screens, and draws.
Personally, I think Arian is a good enough pass blocker to pick up the blitz but we need Owen to have a good game. Their safeties, IMO, can't cover Owen all night. Set the run up with some quick pass's.
I would definitely come out with play action, with Johnson deep or Jacoby across the middle with some space in between the safeties and LB's. Something that will put us in position with quick points. Because our run game will be much better in the second half against their 3-4 Defense. Arian will get 100+ but not more than 150+. Honestly, i think if we get in the 15 we can run the ball all the way in. Arian has proven that he can run the ball in the RZ.
McNabb isn't a great QB, but he's good enough to win a game if it comes down to him making the last play. We have to contain him in the scramble. Our pass defense I think will bend but not bust. A lot of man on the Corners, because we will probably have a LB spy most of the game.
Prolly Closer than my prediction And i'm going 10 point favor, Texans.
Personally, I think Arian is a good enough pass blocker to pick up the blitz but we need Owen to have a good game. Their safeties, IMO, can't cover Owen all night. Set the run up with some quick pass's.
I would definitely come out with play action, with Johnson deep or Jacoby across the middle with some space in between the safeties and LB's. Something that will put us in position with quick points. Because our run game will be much better in the second half against their 3-4 Defense. Arian will get 100+ but not more than 150+. Honestly, i think if we get in the 15 we can run the ball all the way in. Arian has proven that he can run the ball in the RZ.
McNabb isn't a great QB, but he's good enough to win a game if it comes down to him making the last play. We have to contain him in the scramble. Our pass defense I think will bend but not bust. A lot of man on the Corners, because we will probably have a LB spy most of the game.
Prolly Closer than my prediction And i'm going 10 point favor, Texans.
RagingBull
Hall of Shame
Fine. Texans are ranked #3 In scoring offense for 2010. How ya like them apples?
pbat488
gig 'em
For a team that was 30th against the run last year, you guys are banking a lot on a guy who has had one great game.
(ducks)
Ummmm,
Y'all were ranked 16th against the run. NFL.com Statistics Rushing Defense
He's talking about us gashing the Colts 30th ranked rush defense from last year in Week 1!!!
Lay off the A-1 Bill it's makin' your brain go to mush!!!
This won't be a cakewalk. Their coaches know our defense probably better than they know their own. They certainly know our offense. It's the same one they use.
I don't like this game. I'd say it feels like a trap, but it's only a trap game if the team you're going against really sucks. And while the Redskins didn't exactly impress last week, they have experienced talent who have had success against us in the past. Haynesworth knocked Schaub out in the not-so-distant past. Myers doesn't do so good against great big DTs like Fat Albert.
Do you guys recall that McNabb put up 300+ yds and 3 TDs against us when last we saw him - did I mention he did that HERE? Mario, Antonio, and Amobi need to stay in his face like they did PM and maybe make McFive make the mistatkes.
While I love DeMeco the Tackling Machine, he's not exactly stellar when it comes to coverage. Look for the Shanahans to try and exploit this all day.
Also look for them to use our aggressiveness against us with screens and draws to Portis. The thought of that scares me. We haven't exactly been outstanding against those kinds of plays.
I think we can win it. I think we SHOULD win it.
But Matt has to be on his game from the first series; if Schaub comes out cold like he did Sunday with underthrows (I've talked about his weak arm before and got shouted down) and throwing into coverage... it could be a bad day for the good guys.
GuerillaBlack
Hall of Fame
Why do people bring up what McNabb did four seasons ago, when he was much younger and on a much better Eagles squad that just went to the Super Bowl? He's not much older, has a bum ankle, and is playing on a team that went 4-12 last year. Not to mention Richard Smith was our DC back then. COMPLETELY different circumstances now. In fact, who on our defense, besides Mario and DeMeco, were even on the team back then?
Texan_Touchdown
Noob
Who from 2006 is still on our team? Besides Johnson.