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Knowing how low Caserio set the bar for Cleveland, the Atlanta bar was probably close to being the same if not the same (no players).
Prove it
Can we stop with "huge" haul. It's a haul but it's far from huge.
You’re the Texans today.
Caserio was bound by the restrictions of the NTC that he had to operate under. I'm sure he would have loved to have gone gangster on them.
Boy they seem really happy, the whole 20% of them
not well recieved by the faithful browns fans
Cleveland got fleeced!!!!
"cap hell for 3 years and no draft capital"................ NICE one cleveland!!!!!!
Right on! Caserio could have easily said, we have to have a minimum Russell Wilson type deal but because DW4 is 7 years younger we will need 1 extra 1st RD pick. So that's (3) 1st RD draft picks ; 2 2nd RD draft picks (2022 and 2023) and include 3 players from your active roster, a 1st RD draft pick, a 2nd RD draft pick and a day 3 draft pick. But he didn't.
The chart gave an apples-to-apples comparison and showed just how badly Caserio got screwed. But if you don't like the chart, Caserio could have just said we need a Russell Wilson type deal minimum and add 1st RD pick because DW4 is 7 years younger than Wilson. Better?
I understand why you don’t want to answer the question
Caserio set the bar high at 3 #1 picks. I believe I heard on the radio that this had happened only three times in the history of the NFL. If I remember correctly, you can't call this a low bar.
Seeing just how bad we got screwed today, I would've preferred Mayfield being included as part of the trade for 2 reasons. 1) you should at least be able to get what Indy got for Wentz if you traded him. 2) you would be able to keep Mayfield from going to Indy.
I agree with what you're saying, with the exception of one question. Did Caserio have the support of the owners to take that position? The whole Watson fiasco was embarrassing to the team, city, fans & most importantly, the owners. Since the owners would've had to pay Watson's salary for another year & continue to listen to all the media pundits go on & on repeating the story, it would seem to me they may have not supported such a move & just wanted him out of here. Even though, forcing him to waive the NTC for at least two teams is exactly what I would've done had I been in Caserio's position. It's true his NTC gave him some leverage, but the Texans also had the leverage of sitting him on the bench through the prime of his career, if the billionaire owners had supported such a move. But, that's just my opinion.
Why are you attacking the poster?
You can have a 2022 1st RD draft pick that is in the top half of the draft or a 2024 1st RD draft pick that will likely be #25 or lower. Which will it be? BTW you can trade the 2022 pick and parlay it into a half a dozen draft picks by 2024.
At least they have talent. Basically 2 1k backs and a prime edge rusher.
I suggested he use it as leverage. Just as Watson did with his NTC. You really think Watson would risk losing another year of his career? Watson wanted out as bad as we wanted him gone. I’m sure he’s chomping at the bit to get back on the Field. you Guys would make horrible negotiators.
Qb's have always had the leverage, especially top notch ones. Its a wonder how they've been brainwashed into thinking they don't. Brady, Manning,and a host of others could've forced the hand of organizations,but didn't. Going forward, we're going to see more ntc for qb's because they are the single most important players in sports.
TBF, Burger is gone after one 'use' so not good example. If you draft or trade a 2022 pick for a player you have use of that player barring injury for entire season. That is extremely valuable but more so if you are one guy away or if that player has a year that brings you to next level. No one in this draft do I see doing that. 2023? Perhaps Stroud or Young as QB could take the roster in 2023 to SB but so could Mills. Go on, laugh.
If you’d have said you’d prefer the 2024 pick I’d know I was wasting my time.
Maybe nothing is done until the settlements are taken care of.
Yet here we are
Please explain
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When everything jumped off, posters expected him to be on the cel and it didn't happen. Honestly, the Texans probably expected this also and when it didn't happen, it got awkward really quick. Culley answering questions, Caserio talking about silicon valley, Cal playing Xbox. I said from the beginning, make him play and if he refuses, get into his money or make the nfl step up. By being passive aggressive, it just strung along for no reason. Caserio did what he could based on maybe from the family. Now, there are no excuses with the draft capital they received,but we all know that if you don't draft a high end qb, everyone will be fired in 3 years.
He values those 1st round picks as much as anyone. He built his team using them. Just not in the draft.this is a question of value…and I’ve been saying this since the Clowney trade. Value is relative. You “could” trade for this or that is subject to what value the other party places on the asset. The rams have repeatedly shown they don’t value 1st round draft picks in the same way fans and other GM’s do…their GM wore a “$&@# those 1st round draft picks” T-shirt to the SB parade for god sake
hard to imagine he’d do and/or feel the same way & have the same thought process if his team wasn’t in the position it was.
They also had a bigger head start
Just to add, the Washington team got Saints entire draft and half of the next year draft and they didn't win anything. The Rams got a haul for the RG3 trade and in less than 3 years, .500 fisher was fired. Only time will tell on both sides. Maybe both teams win,maybe both lose, or maybe its a draw
