But somehow you believe all 25,000 students at Harvard (and those that came before them) are in lockstep in their beliefs. It's hard to take you seriously. Damn hard.
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I have no doubt who David from the inner city is.
BTW, the majority of students are in lockstep with the administration of those schools.
IDGAF what you think of me. Just so I can be clear.
Because you know zip about him. Or most of the people you have ridiculous takes on. Stroud, for an example. Nigerians, Clemson athletes, blah, blah.
I quote because I think it's toxic to let these BS takes just lay there. What do the drive by visitors think? Do they want to join a forum that leaves this stuff unfettered? I consider these posts your essays. And I'm writing in the margins when necessary (This is totally made up BS).
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Porky
Hall of Fame
Maybe CJ will change agents and hire redneck Bob from deep east Texas. He will have a helmet with two full beer cans and a straw while discussing CJ’s contract with Cletus at his concrete pond. Would that help?
Porky
Hall of Fame
I agree. We don’t want our kids goin’ to some high edumacation place. I don’t have a ladder. They might get learnt with them things with words in ‘em. What do they call them things anyway? Books or sumthin like dat. Nah…no way is my boy gonna be learnt by them people tryin to put things like “science” and “math” in his head. They just gonna mess with his head and he’ll think he knows more than dear ole dad.No sirree Bob. My boy Jim Bob Don is gonna get learnt by me on the finer things in life like like cow chip throwin’ and makin babies en stuff. And I will learnt him some big bidness like runnin moonshine and growing marshmallows…or is it marijuana…so he can own his own business one day.
TexansBull
Hall of Fame
As your post illustrates top talent demands top pay days.
You get paid based on your body of work.
Why would you have a problem with that?
Mahomes did the same thing.
The Chiefs chose to pay. The Browns chose to pay. They weren’t held hostage in any way.
TexansBull
Hall of Fame
CJ is going to break the bank. No doubt about it.
And it looks like he is worth every penny.
And it looks like he is worth every penny.
I dont have a problem with guys getting paid. But I'm also realistic enough to realize that it shrinks the championship window. This is why every 7-8 yrs I would find a new QB. The main reason the Texans future is bright is Stroud's on his rookie deal and if David from the inner city will work with Cal the window should stay open for 7-8 yrs. I've got little faith David will work with Cal, but maybe Stroud will make him work with Cal.
I love the history there. Enjoyed touring “Old Ironsides”
TexansBull
Hall of Fame
Stay on point here.
You don’t mind people getting paid but if it’s a Mulugheta client than it’s different?
I don’t like how the Watson deal went down, and the track record of his clients, but if Caserio says we are open for business with anyone than it is what it is. Big boy pants come on and you got to deal with who you got to deal with.
If we tie, it's on you.
Texansphan
Football connoisseur
Ultimately, Stroud holds the whip with DM. After all, he isn't his owner, just his agent.
Stroud can just as easily get another one of those.
DM renegotiates after yr 3 instead of yr 4. My issue is this shortens the championship window.
Sweech
Onside Kick Specialist
I just don't think it's true that the only SuperBowls won will be by rookies on their starting contracts.
I think Stroud (on his trajectory) is getting paid regardless of agent and we can still win during that.
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Sweech
Onside Kick Specialist
I actually agree with steelb on this one. He is a racist, or at the very least utilizes racism as a business construct.
Decim8
Veteran
I thought that’s normal, didn’t Justin Herbert and burrow get an extension after year 3?
And Carson Wentz..
And Jared Goff..
And Patrick Mahomes..
And Kyler Murray..
And Josh Allen..
Why? How? I could just as easily make a baseless accusation that you are a racist for accusing David Mulugheta of racism.
He has stated that he will not accept an athlete not of color as a client
edit: In his own words
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Yeah, but Mulafromtheinnercity did it first. Not chronologically first, but in principal.
No, JB. Mulugheta did not say "He would only accept black players."
He said, "I, along with every other black NFL agent, only represent black players. Unlike our white counterparts, we don’t have the luxury of representing the entire NFL pool of athletes."
Can you see the difference? Here is an article from the Washington Post a couple of years ago that explains what Mulugheta and other black agents are referring to.
"In conversations with 10 Black agents for this story, several pointed to deeply rooted and unconscious biases they confront. Elite players are inundated by White authority figures throughout their amateur careers, from the recruiter in their living rooms to the Power Five conference coaches they play for to the athletic directors running the programs. When it’s time to pick a representative, Black agents say, players and their families tend to go with what they know.
“They are comfortable with their own people,” Barnes said. “When it comes to having a Black person handle all of your business that’s considered that important, changing your life, they’re just not comfortable in turning that type of authority over to a Black person.”
A Black representative at a leading sports agency, who spoke on the condition of anonymity to discuss private negotiations, recalled landing a meeting with a well-known college quarterback. As he made his pitch, he said, the player’s father sat there “with an interesting look on his face.”
“I don’t think they knew who was coming to the meeting at that time,” the agent said. “It’s hard to get the conversation to get to the meeting. It just doesn’t happen. I don’t know why — well, we all know why.”
Yes, there is latent racism involved with black agents, including Mulugheta, not being able to sign white players. But it's not coming from the agents.
TexansBull
Hall of Fame
That’s called human nature. People gravitate to their “community.”
LGBT tend to flock towards other LGBT, Jews to Jews, East Asian to East Asian, Black to Black, White to White, Indian to Indian, etc.
They even did a study that good looking people tend to gravitate towards other good looking people.
The real issue is that the racism card is being used to hide the real motive- money.
Mulugheta and other black agents want the bigger piece of the pie that white players in the NFL represent - the white QB contract.
Let’s go ahead and attach a face with the allegation - Is Peyton Manning racist? Is Tom Brady? Is Burrow? Herbert? Is JJ Watt?
Who does Mahomes have as an agent? Two white guys. I will let you figure that one out.
BullRushTX
To'oTo'o A'go-go
Harris looked really good last game, so I hope he's turned the corner. I'm not really sure what to expect from Hewitt and Littleton when they have to cycle in. I know Hewitt is great on special teams.
Porky
Hall of Fame
I would say it’s very poorly worded and he probably should have put a sock in it, but that’s not a racist statement. As others have pointed out, he is stating that white athletes don’t sign with a black agent, so the pool he is left with is black athletes. I have no idea how true that is. But one thing I know from my travels through life. We are all the same, so it’s sad that white athletes don’t sign with black agents and Vice versa. I treat everyone the same. Period. If we all did that in both deed and thought, we would live in a much better and kinder world.
SnakeEyes
Under NRG
Texans are riding high after 2 great games. We have the talent to win this game easy. If we have a fall off, we lose. I think our talent will shine through and we win a surprisingly close game. I'll say by 3...this is a trap game no question. I hope Meco and the staff will keep the team up and ready after 2 emotional wins.
Speedy
Former Yeller Dweller
Texansballer74
The Marine
He is not racist.
Number19
Hall of Fame
Doesn't it take two to tango? Simply don't take calls from DM before you are ready to negotiate.
Number19
Hall of Fame
But teams should operate within a viable financial structure. Once a player reaches a point where he is demanding payment outside this structure, the team should move on from that player.
Look at the history of how many QB's have won SBs in the last 10 years that weren't in the 1st 6-7 years of their career. Love your optimism.
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Number19
Hall of Fame
Is being charged with "racism" a bad thing?
Many years ago I ran for Congess. And was called a "racist". Why? Because I ran as a Constitutionalist. Why is this "racist". Because I campaigned on reducing the size of government by eliminating agencies beneficial to minorities (among other cuts). And for this I was called a "racist".
It's the new normal, created by DM. They've got 3-4'yrs to win a SB. They're on the clock.
I wish it worked that way.
Other than Mahomes who on this list has won a SB and who on this list is in real contention to win a SB?
You could make any accusations you want to make. You could also choose to bury your head in the sand.
Yeah, black coaches don't recruit black players.
SnakeEyes
Under NRG
They are riding high and they have the ability to hang with almost every team. And they know that. Which is what a trap game is. A game you get overconfident your going to win and mistakes are made.
Texansballer74
The Marine
I thought this was the game day thread. Why the bleep are we talking about David?
Sweech
Onside Kick Specialist
Because he won't take white clients. That's a racist business practice. Any other business that employed such practices would be shunned. If you believe because he is black that absolutely zero. None. Zilch. Nada white people want to use him, an agent famously known for getting his clients the $$$ then that's cool. I think that's a wholly naive belief that out of such an incredibly large pool of players none would have him as their agent. I don't doubt the idea or belief that it may be tougher attracting those clients because of external factors (including racism against him) but to think he isn't at this point of his career essentially making that happen...well I guess we'd have a difference in opinion there.
If he isn't his business practices are. Again if you believe that it's white people (every single one in the league and in the NCAA) who won't hire him then that's a heck of a belief that I don't share.
I would say being charged with it is bad if it's true. I'm sorry you were accused of it when it wasn't, but that doesn't really have anything to do with me or my opinions as I don't think you're racist.
Sweech
Onside Kick Specialist
I mean going from rookie contract to now saying 7 years is quite the stretch no? Like at that point we're talking about 29 year old CJ Stroud and it's a wholly different argument, in fact it's almost doubling the years of the rookie contract.
In fact you're stating 3-4 year window, but then somehow saying 7 here.
Would just love some consistency for this discussion.
Usually contracts can be written that defers money so that teams have a chance to win a championship for 6-7 yrs. 3 off of the rookie deal and 3 off of the deferred yrs. Sometimes this can be stretched out one more yr.
Porky
Hall of Fame
Hopefully, Singletary has found something with this line and system. They balled last week in the run game. BTW - I've been way more impressed with Deiter than I figured. Patterson did reasonably well, (and this is more anecdotal with my somewhat untrained eye) but it seems to me that Deiter has done even better and has really turned C into a strength.
Sweech
Onside Kick Specialist
I get that and I get that you think it won't happen, but so far we can at least say what we expect from CJ...isn't close to what he'll give. He seems to always exceed expectations. I think if he continues on this path he deserves the max and will get the max, but I don't think it's outside the realms of possibility that it's backloaded like Mahomes' was.
So until it happens we can probably still imagine a 6-7 year window.
Just my .02 though
htownfan32
Hall of Fame
Goff. Lions are legit.
And for the life of me, Josh Allen should be as well, but I cannot figure out why the Bills suck so hard
Sweech
Onside Kick Specialist
My bad. I'll drop it.
Sweech
Onside Kick Specialist
Bills honestly kind of comes down to bad luck. Unlucky with injuries to some key players (especially on defense) and unlucky on turnovers. One of those seasons where anything Allen throws that could be a pick has almost always been a pick, he just isn't catching the luck with defenders dropping them.