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Vince Young Back in the Saddle Again!
- Thread starter MojoMan
- Start date
FirstTexansFan
The Unknown Fan
Sell out!
Thorn
Dirty Old Man
Get a grip folks. VY is the enemy, just like Manning and what's his name in Jacksonville. He doesn't play for the Texans, and isn't going to. Get over it.
If we had a team that could win frigging games maybe we wouldn't have to keep visiting this same **** over and over again.
If we had a team that could win frigging games maybe we wouldn't have to keep visiting this same **** over and over again.
Wolf
100% Texan
exactly
Wolf
100% Texan
no joke.. hell Manning is 15-1 against us
youre a bigger man than most
toronto
Hall of Fame
As long as Adams decides Young is worth the cap hit, and it sure as hell is starting to look like it, VY isn't going anywhere, at least for 2 seasons.
Vinny
shiny happy fan
people calling him this or that doesn't change him. He was the same guy before and after the name calling. It's a reflection of the name callers, not the name calleez.
TEXANRED
Texan-American
I agree with this completely.
All VY does is win games. He makes plays at the crucial points in the game. Matt Schaub? He throws pic 6's and fumbles the football.
Matt Schaub is a between the 20's QB. He puts up a bunch of numbers and some pretty plays, but once he gets into the red zone then forgets what to do with the ball.
VY? scores.
And I hate VY and the Titans and I am saying this.
Silver Oak
All Pro
Mailman said:
horn fans will never be cut from the vy teat.
SheTexan
Hall of Fame
Because Kerry Collins got screwed by the Titans per order of Bud Adams. They were told to make KC look bad. Bud wanted VY in the saddle that bad. The Titans have NEVER been an 0-6 team, they are much better than that. think about it. Dropped passes, RBs sucked, missed calls, crappy defense, then all of a sudden they are playing playoff calibur football. It's not VY, it's the same Titan team that won the division last year playing for VY because they were told to NOT play for KC.
BTW: I heard this from a Titan fan. Seems like it is no secret in Nashville. Bud got what he wanted and KC paid the price. Screwed over bigtime!!! Who's to say KC wouldn't have taken the Titans to another playoff if given an honest chance. Something smells really bad in Nashville, and I think it's Buds lieing, dying ass!!!
Wow, some people really go out of their way to try and bring the guy down.
You can't argue with this though. You are on your own 1 yard line with 2:37 left in the 4th quarter. You must march 99 yards and score a touchdown to win:
2:37
1st and 10 at TEN 1 V.Young pass short right to K.Britt to TEN 7 for 6 yards (D.Rodgers-Cromartie).
2nd and 4 at TEN 7 V.Young pass incomplete short right to B.Scaife.
3rd and 4 at TEN 7 V.Young pass incomplete short right to K.Britt (D.Rodgers-Cromartie).
4th and 4 at TEN 7 V.Young pass short left to K.Britt to TEN 17 for 10 yards (B.McFadden).
1st and 10 at TEN 17 (No Huddle, Shotgun) V.Young pass short middle to B.Scaife to TEN 36 for 19 yards (B.McFadden, A.Wilson).
1st and 10 at TEN 36 (No Huddle, Shotgun) V.Young pass short left to L.Hawkins pushed ob at TEN 38 for 2 yards (B.McFadden).
2nd and 8 at TEN 38 V.Young pass short left to J.Cook ran ob at 50 for 12 yards.
1st and 10 at 50 V.Young pass incomplete deep left to N.Washington.
2nd and 10 at 50 V.Young scrambles right end pushed ob at ARZ 44 for 6 yards (M.Adams).
3rd and 4 at ARI 44 V.Young pass incomplete short right to B.Scaife [D.Dockett].
4th and 4 at ARI 44 V.Young pass short left to L.Hawkins pushed ob at ARZ 31 for 13 yards (M.Adams).
1st and 10 at ARI 31 V.Young pass short left to B.Scaife ran ob at ARZ 26 for 5 yards.
2nd and 5 at ARI 26 V.Young pass incomplete deep left to N.Washington.
3rd and 5 at ARI 26 V.Young pass short middle to J.Cook pushed ob at ARZ 9 for 17 yards (R.Brown).
Timeout #1 by ARZ at 00:21.
1st and 9 at ARI 9 V.Young pass incomplete short middle to B.Scaife.
2nd and 9 at ARI 9 V.Young sacked at ARZ 10 for -1 yards (sack split by C.Campbell and C.Haggans).
Timeout #2 by TEN at 00:11.
3rd and 10 at ARI 10 V.Young pass incomplete short middle to N.Washington.
Timeout #3 by TEN at 00:06.
Timeout #2 by ARZ at 00:06.
4th and 10 at ARI 10 V.Young pass short middle to K.Britt for 10 yards, TOUCHDOWN. 17 19
0:00
You can't argue with this though. You are on your own 1 yard line with 2:37 left in the 4th quarter. You must march 99 yards and score a touchdown to win:
2:37
1st and 10 at TEN 1 V.Young pass short right to K.Britt to TEN 7 for 6 yards (D.Rodgers-Cromartie).
2nd and 4 at TEN 7 V.Young pass incomplete short right to B.Scaife.
3rd and 4 at TEN 7 V.Young pass incomplete short right to K.Britt (D.Rodgers-Cromartie).
4th and 4 at TEN 7 V.Young pass short left to K.Britt to TEN 17 for 10 yards (B.McFadden).
1st and 10 at TEN 17 (No Huddle, Shotgun) V.Young pass short middle to B.Scaife to TEN 36 for 19 yards (B.McFadden, A.Wilson).
1st and 10 at TEN 36 (No Huddle, Shotgun) V.Young pass short left to L.Hawkins pushed ob at TEN 38 for 2 yards (B.McFadden).
2nd and 8 at TEN 38 V.Young pass short left to J.Cook ran ob at 50 for 12 yards.
1st and 10 at 50 V.Young pass incomplete deep left to N.Washington.
2nd and 10 at 50 V.Young scrambles right end pushed ob at ARZ 44 for 6 yards (M.Adams).
3rd and 4 at ARI 44 V.Young pass incomplete short right to B.Scaife [D.Dockett].
4th and 4 at ARI 44 V.Young pass short left to L.Hawkins pushed ob at ARZ 31 for 13 yards (M.Adams).
1st and 10 at ARI 31 V.Young pass short left to B.Scaife ran ob at ARZ 26 for 5 yards.
2nd and 5 at ARI 26 V.Young pass incomplete deep left to N.Washington.
3rd and 5 at ARI 26 V.Young pass short middle to J.Cook pushed ob at ARZ 9 for 17 yards (R.Brown).
Timeout #1 by ARZ at 00:21.
1st and 9 at ARI 9 V.Young pass incomplete short middle to B.Scaife.
2nd and 9 at ARI 9 V.Young sacked at ARZ 10 for -1 yards (sack split by C.Campbell and C.Haggans).
Timeout #2 by TEN at 00:11.
3rd and 10 at ARI 10 V.Young pass incomplete short middle to N.Washington.
Timeout #3 by TEN at 00:06.
Timeout #2 by ARZ at 00:06.
4th and 10 at ARI 10 V.Young pass short middle to K.Britt for 10 yards, TOUCHDOWN. 17 19
0:00
TEXANRED
Texan-American
No offense but if you believe that than I got some ocean front property to sell in Arizona. Real cheap too.
Adams is the owner of the team. Owner. He gets what he wants when he wants. If he wanted to trot out his team in all pink he would. If he wanted VY to start from the word jump it would of happened.
And I guess the moon landing didnt happen either.
toronto
Hall of Fame
This is one funny-ass post.
Thorn
Dirty Old Man
So, Vince Young is currently playing well. Lot's of players have hot streaks, look no further than Steve Slaton last year and this year. The only reason this is a topic is the same old Mario/Vince/Reggie crap that keeps coming up over and over and over again.
The problem I see is if VY is for real, then when Manning retires we still have VY to deal with twice a year. The problem is the Texans themselves, it isn't VY or Manning.
The problem I see is if VY is for real, then when Manning retires we still have VY to deal with twice a year. The problem is the Texans themselves, it isn't VY or Manning.
Goatcheese
Texan
Solid game by VY this week. He played like an actual QB, and made some good throws.
TD
Super Bowl Mascot
Seems like we have seen this before. I'll wait and see how handles losing a few in row before jumping on (back on) the VY bandwagon. He's always a winner when things are going well....its when they didn't that he completely went to crap. I'm not sold on his mental toughness yet.
Huh?
You think an owner told a team to be bad so he could demand the coach play a different player? That makes no sense. Why wouldn't the owner just tell the coach to play whomever he wanted?
So this is what you think happened:
Owner, thinking to himself: Coach wants to start Player A but I want him to start player B. Uhmm, what do I do? Being the owner, I could make the coach start player B. All that would take is a phone call. Uhmm, that would be too easy. Uhm,... I know what I will do - l will tell the coach to make the team play badly for six games, that way I can demand the coach play the player I want. Yeah, that's the ticket.
Napa Auto Parts
Veteran
Man that VY he just keeps winning why cant we have have a "Winner"
All we've got to do is make it to the play-offs.
Just imagine how bad it will be if we finish behind the Titans in the division, when they started 0-6.
DexmanC
Hall of Fame
VY threw for 387, and only ran for SIX????
I knew he was a better passer from what I saw from Monday Night, but
DAMN!!!
GuerillaBlack
Hall of Fame
You top his passing, he'll run on you. You stop his runs, and he'll pass all over you. Dude is good. Let's see if he can do the passing thing consistently in the NFL though. I liked what I saw yesterday, though.
Hey, maybe we can pick him up in the offseason.
Second Honeymoon
Hall of Fame
I wouldn't. It's not a popular opinion but I even held that opinion when VY was in the tank floundering away his career.
Stick with me though. VY would have been good in Houston and that would have meant no Carr re-signing.
So the true tradeoff is this
Schaub and Mario versus VY, 2 2nd Rounders, Carr's cap space and Mario's cap space.
That is the difference. Clearly I would rather have VY over Matt if you are going to give me over 12million in cap space and 2 2nd Rounders. We could have used the cap space to sign Haynesworth and a quality corner.
I love Matt but VY was the right selection...especially now when you see that Vince can play football at a very high level.
Second Honeymoon
Hall of Fame
yup. lots of people around here were drunk on sausage parties and wunderlich scores. piling on. I would say that Vince was good and people would say I was a loser. Apologies accepted.
the people who know football knew that Vince wasn't finished. He just needed to get some things straight and get a chance. He lost his job due to injury and how he handled the demotion/injury. it's not like he was losing it was just tough to bench KC after a 13 win season.
I am proud of Vince for showing all the haters that they know nothing, but I wish he would leave Tennessee. I don't want to play him 2 times a year and manning 2 times a year. That just sucks.
GuerillaBlack
Hall of Fame
So, when is Vince's contract up with the Titans?
Blazing Arrow
Work'n da grill
He has 2 more seasons on his contract but it balloons next season to $14 million. I am pretty sure he will get a nice extension come the end of the season.
Blazing Arrow
Work'n da grill
The Cards had at least one at times two spies on him. They were playing for him to run the entire game. Anytime he even hinted at running they would collapse on the running lanes.
TEXANRED
Texan-American
Really? Why? How many playoffs have we been to with Mario and Schaub? How many W's do we have with Mario and Schaub -vs- VY? This season alone out of 11 starts Schaub has 5 W's. VY has started 5 and won 5.
Neither Mario or Schaub take over a game the way that Young does.
And again, I hate the Titans and Vince but lets at least be truthful to ourselves.
kastofsna
Hall of Fame
football is a team game, btw
SheTexan
Hall of Fame
I didn't say I believed anything, just what was told to me. It's pretty simple really. THe Titan TEAM quit on Kerry Collins. WHY, I don't know nor do I care. They had a tough road their first 6 games, and I still say they are better than an 0-6 team. THey came off the bye with VY at the helm and played the Jags, Buffalo, Niners, Texans and Cards. WOW, I'm really impressed!! 
We'll see how the almighty Vince does against the Colts next week.
We'll see how the almighty Vince does against the Colts next week.
MojoMan
Hall of Fame
I didn't say I believed anything, just what was told to me. It's pretty simple really. THe Titan TEAM quit on Kerry Collins. WHY, I don't know nor do I care. They had a tough road their first 6 games, and I still say they are better than an 0-6 team. THey came off the bye with VY at the helm and played the Jags, Buffalo, Niners, Texans and Cards. WOW, I'm really impressed!!
If the Titans beat the Colts next Sunday, and Vince Young has any kind of a productive game, then everyone will have to bow the knee to the Prince of Vince.
If the Titans beat the Colts on Sunday, the will have followed six consecutive losses without Vince with six consecutive wins with him. If that happens, everyone will need to come clean and admit that this has been quite an accomplishment, and that Vince's contribution to this effort was not inconsequential.
Don't you think?
Second Honeymoon
Hall of Fame
I didn't say I believed anything, just what was told to me. It's pretty simple really. THe Titan TEAM quit on Kerry Collins. WHY, I don't know nor do I care. They had a tough road their first 6 games, and I still say they are better than an 0-6 team. THey came off the bye with VY at the helm and played the Jags, Buffalo, Niners, Texans and Cards. WOW, I'm really impressed!!
don't diminish those wins. the texans lost to two of those teams themselves and the Titans didn't quit on KC. we haven't even won four games in a row as a franchise in 8 years...much less 5 games in a row. don't diminish what they are doing...Vince is playing well and winning while our team is in a meteoric free fall since 5-3.
at first it was the TItans players didn't like Vince and didn't believe in him and didn't want him playing. now that Vince is winning and its time to eat some crow and humble pie for all the haters, its some sort of conspiracy where the players wanted Vince to start so bad they were willing to tank their own season.
it doesn't add up and is pretty ludicrous to be honest.
that being said, ihope you had a great holiday weekend SheTexan. your a good fan and i know it all comes from a good place.
VY's break from football definitely did him some good. That, and he's got the best RB in the league. That never hurts.
The Colts game will be very interesting. Honestly I wouldn't be too shocked if they beat the Colts because the Colts just look due for a loss.
We can downplay who Vince has beaten however the Texans wouldn't have won many of those games. There is no way the Texans would have pulled that game out yesterday the way the Titans did. There would have been a meltdown somewhere along the way. Actually, now that I think about it the Texans were in the same situation vs the Cards. Both had 4th and goal with the game on the line. VY converted, the Texans failed.
It is what it is and my therapist says that it is healthy for me to accept all of this instead of continuing to deny and harbor so many negative emotions.
We can downplay who Vince has beaten however the Texans wouldn't have won many of those games. There is no way the Texans would have pulled that game out yesterday the way the Titans did. There would have been a meltdown somewhere along the way. Actually, now that I think about it the Texans were in the same situation vs the Cards. Both had 4th and goal with the game on the line. VY converted, the Texans failed.
It is what it is and my therapist says that it is healthy for me to accept all of this instead of continuing to deny and harbor so many negative emotions.
toronto
Hall of Fame
I didn't say I believed anything, just what was told to me. It's pretty simple really. THe Titan TEAM quit on Kerry Collins. WHY, I don't know nor do I care. They had a tough road their first 6 games, and I still say they are better than an 0-6 team. THey came off the bye with VY at the helm and played the Jags, Buffalo, Niners, Texans and Cards. WOW, I'm really impressed!!
The Titan team quit on themselves and on their coach. That's what makes the last 5 weeks that much more surreal.
Second Honeymoon
Hall of Fame
they only quit in the Snow Bowl game in Foxboro v. the Pats. It was a monumental quit but still just one game.
There is nothing surreal about what is happening. Vince has some tools that allow him to be a very difficult QB to prepare for and to stop on 3rd Down. He is a tough guy to stop especially when you have to worry about stopping the most explosive player in the league, Chris Johnson.
I saw what a Collins Titans team did in Week2. Fail. I saw what a Young Titans team did in Week 10. Young is good and he better be because they spent a #3 overall pick on him and lots of $$.
I will always hate the team thieving Titans but in the end it won't matter. Because as magical as Vince can be, he will never be able to break the Bud Adams' Curse. If Vince wants to win a championship one day (long way off) he needs to know that he will never win one with the Titans. They will always and forever be one yard short.
Does anyone think Vince would be so great if he didn't have the best running back in the game in his backfield along with one of the top 2 or 3 o-lines in the league? Mediocre Collins went 13-3 with the same team last year. It's not like you could just plug Vince into the Texans and you'd start winning. He'd have an inferior o-line, running attack and defense.
toronto
Hall of Fame
I always chuckle when I see this, because say it went to OT and they lose the coin toss they may lose anyways ya know.
Dan B.
Hall of Fame
Collins also went 0-6 before Vince went 5-0 with the same RB and OL this year.
Of course Vince benefits from having a good offensive line and RB. Anyone would. But he has been able to adapt to the situation that is presented to him this season, unlike his second year when he tried to force things to happen when they weren't there. I just don't see how anyone can deny that he has been extremely good this year since he got back into the starting lineup. This week will tell us a lot.
TheRealJoker
Hall of Fame
Inserting VY back into the lineup forced the Titans to quit screwing around and get back to what they do best which is play Fisherball. VY is averaging 18 passes per game and 144 yards through the air...a stat skewed by the Cardinals game btw.
The Titans are relying mainly on running the ball with the most dangerous player in the league right now, Chris Johnson who is even tougher to defend with a threat to run like VY at QB and an OL that has allowed the fewest sacks in the league while also being # 1 in rushing (that makes them the best statistically methinks)...
VY is doing very well right now because he's in the perfect situation and he has some talents himself. I think that drive was a thing of beauty, I wish that the Texans would call for more short passes especially considering the deficiencies on our OL. I think we could shred defenses, especially when OD was in the lineup, by dinking and dunking down the field and letting our skill players make plays in space. Plus it would mask our deficiencies in the running game and would help open up the deep ball that we're currently trying to force all too often now that OD is out of the lineup.
I hate that the Titans are back to their winning ways because it means that Jeff Fisher is still gonna be their coach...which sucks for us because we're still the weakest in the division when it comes to HCs.
The Titans are relying mainly on running the ball with the most dangerous player in the league right now, Chris Johnson who is even tougher to defend with a threat to run like VY at QB and an OL that has allowed the fewest sacks in the league while also being # 1 in rushing (that makes them the best statistically methinks)...
VY is doing very well right now because he's in the perfect situation and he has some talents himself. I think that drive was a thing of beauty, I wish that the Texans would call for more short passes especially considering the deficiencies on our OL. I think we could shred defenses, especially when OD was in the lineup, by dinking and dunking down the field and letting our skill players make plays in space. Plus it would mask our deficiencies in the running game and would help open up the deep ball that we're currently trying to force all too often now that OD is out of the lineup.
I hate that the Titans are back to their winning ways because it means that Jeff Fisher is still gonna be their coach...which sucks for us because we're still the weakest in the division when it comes to HCs.
TheRealJoker
Hall of Fame
I'm sure a combination of him taking a more hands-on role with the defense combined with injured players in the secondary returning helped them out a lot.