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The Actual And Real 2016 Texans' Talk Mock Draft Extravaganza

Make it Fackrell then. I agree.

With the 70th pick in the 2016 Texans Talk Mock Draft, the Baltimore Ravens select:

Kyler Fackrell, OLB, Utah State

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The New York Giants (Texian) are now on the clock.
 
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3-72 Chicago (steelbtexan) - on the clock
3-73 Miami (thunderkyss) - in the hole

Might be wishful thinking, but it would be nice to get to the Texans pick tonight, as we did last night.
 
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Lucky said:
3-72 Chicago (steelbtexan) - on the clock
3-73 Miami (thunderkyss) - in the hole

Might be wishful thinking, but it would be nice to get to the Texans pick tonight, as we did last night.
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You GD right I'm in the hole.
 
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I'll give it an hour and a half and then you'll have to wait on me until tomorrow. When your morning starts at three, you have to end it by nine.
 
Marshall said:
I'll give it an hour and a half and then you'll have to wait on me until tomorrow. When your morning starts at three, you have to end it by nine.
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Do you want to send me a list of players in case it gets moving again?
 
Lucky said:
Do you want to send me a list of players in case it gets moving again?
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No. It's too close to the end of the clock and I'll definitely post before 7AM if it manages to get to me tonight, which I highly doubt at this point. I have my eye on three guys, but there are five picks to go.
 
With the 72nd pick in the TT Mock Draft the Chicago Bears select Jonathan Bullard DT/DE Florida.

A DL of Hicks/Goldman/Bullard with Ferguson and Gaston in reserve should keep OL off of high priced FA talented LB's Houston/Freeman/Trevathan/McPhee. The front seven weakness last yr has become a strength and can now compete against the Packers/AD/Stafford lead teams.

Bullard is a fine athlete with an exceptional burst and has a non stop motor. The Bears are going to challenge for the division this yr with Cutler being better protected and a much improved defense.
 
With the 73rd pick in the 2016 NFL Draft, the Miami Dolphins make a fashion statement. In a move to forever remove dreadlocks from the NFL, the Dolphins select Isaac SeeYoMama (Seumalo)

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No more dreads.
 
I haven't done a proper write up for any of my Bucs' picks thus far, so bear with me while I explain my mindset going into this draft.

I watched quite a bit of the Bucs' last year and I noticed three main issues:

1. The offensive line was terrible and also very young.
2. The defense was horribly coached and schemed, though talented.
3. Their receivers didn't play that well and outside of Mike Evans, they don't have talent for the future.

This off season they signed J.R. Sweezy at G from Seattle. Good signing for them, they needed it. They have two right tackles (one obviously played left tackle) and they didn't play at all well last year. Cherilus has been better in his past and Doctson was much better prior to last year. I took Ronnie Stanley in the 1st round for them, as I think Cherilus is as good as gone as soon as he doesn't HAVE to play (think Newton). I think Doctson can actually improve, or atleast return to his decent playing status.

They also signed Robert Ayers, DE from the Giants and Brent Grimes, CB from the Dolphins. Ayers is kind of in the same mold as their other DEs, although he is a better pass rusher. They've got solid DEs, they just don't have dynamic pass rushers, so that's a need. CB is often listed as a need, but honestly I think they have some talented guys. Their Lovie Smith scheming last year was downright migraine inducive to watch. I think guys like Jonathan Banks, Alterraun Verner, and some of their younger guys could improve simply with better scheming and coaching under Mike Smith, so I actually don't think they need CB as highly as alot of people think. They also have Brent Grimes (as I said), Mike Jenkins, and signed Josh Robinson. They have talent at the position.

Just a little explanation on my thinking to the very few who are interested in it, or the few that want to know a bit more about the Bucs.

Having said that, after taking:

Round 1: Ronnie Stanley, OT, Notre Dame
Round 2: Karl Joseph, S, West Virginia


The Bucs take Malcolm Mitchell, WR, Georgia.

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It's probably not a popular pick as far as value, but I am more and more impressed with Mitchell the more I go back and watch him and think about all he's been through. This is a guy that started out as an excellent athlete and has been through alot of adversity with injuries and has stayed positive. He was a true leader for his team. He learned to excel at the little details of playing receiver after losing his elite athleticism (he's still athletic). Mitchell has excellent work ethic. I like him to play in the slot with Mike Evans and Vincent Jackson on the outside. I think his personality type is great for learning under Jackson, because I think he will earn Jackson's respect almost immediately, and I think he can actually be quite good for Evans, as I think Evans is a bit immature. Mitchell could develop into a #2 receiver, but should see immediate PT in the slot. This is a really good fit IMO and it may be a little early, but I love it. Jameis will too.
 
TexansSeminole said:
I haven't done a proper write up for any of my Bucs' picks thus far, so bear with me while I explain my mindset going into this draft.

I watched quite a bit of the Bucs' last year and I noticed three main issues:

1. The offensive line was terrible and also very young.
2. The defense was horribly coached and schemed, though talented.
3. Their receivers didn't play that well and outside of Mike Evans, they don't have talent for the future.

This off season they signed J.R. Sweezy at G from Seattle. Good signing for them, they needed it. They have two right tackles (one obviously played left tackle) and they didn't play at all well last year. Cherilus has been better in his past and Doctson was much better prior to last year. I took Ronnie Stanley in the 1st round for them, as I think Cherilus is as good as gone as soon as he doesn't HAVE to play (think Newton). I think Doctson can actually improve, or atleast return to his decent playing status.

They also signed Robert Ayers, DE from the Giants and Brent Grimes, CB from the Dolphins. Ayers is kind of in the same mold as their other DEs, although he is a better pass rusher. They've got solid DEs, they just don't have dynamic pass rushers, so that's a need. CB is often listed as a need, but honestly I think they have some talented guys. Their Lovie Smith scheming last year was downright migraine inducive to watch. I think guys like Jonathan Banks, Alterraun Verner, and some of their younger guys could improve simply with better scheming and coaching under Mike Smith, so I actually don't think they need CB as highly as alot of people think. They also have Brent Grimes (as I said), Mike Jenkins, and signed Josh Robinson. They have talent at the position.

Just a little explanation on my thinking to the very few who are interested in it, or the few that want to know a bit more about the Bucs.

Having said that, after taking:

Round 1: Ronnie Stanley, OT, Notre Dame
Round 2: Karl Joseph, S, West Virginia


The Bucs take Malcolm Mitchell, WR, Georgia.

It's probably not a popular pick as far as value, but I am more and more impressed with Mitchell the more I go back and watch him and think about all he's been through. This is a guy that started out as an excellent athlete and has been through alot of adversity with injuries and has stayed positive. He was a true leader for his team. He learned to excel at the little details of playing receiver after losing his elite athleticism (he's still athletic). Mitchell has excellent work ethic. I like him to play in the slot with Mike Evans and Vincent Jackson on the outside. I think his personality type is great for learning under Jackson, because I think he will earn Jackson's respect almost immediately, and I think he can actually be quite good for Evans, as I think Evans is a bit immature. Mitchell could develop into a #2 receiver, but should see immediate PT in the slot. This is a really good fit IMO and it may be a little early, but I love it. Jameis will too.
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Really like your thought process, Stanley/SWeazy/Deitrich-Smith/Marpet/Smith has the makings of a really good OL

The CB's while they aren't superstars are really good.

I really like Mitchell and think he's as good as Shepard. I want the Texans to draft him if they decide to wait on a WR in the real draft.
 
Shishkabob said:
I'm tired just give me Jerald Hawkins OT LSU
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C'mon man, just getting started , ya know all nighter :wesmantexanfan:

This makes two LSU lineman taken so far. I think he will be a solid starting RT, so good value in thin class, I'm not familiar with who the Raiders OL are bunch of journeyman & later picks so well played.
 
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I'm up and I see you late people actually made it to my pick.

Sticking to my general formula of BPA over need and hating what this does to the Texans pick behind me, The LOS ANGELES RAMS, with the 76th pick in the 2016 NFL PLAYER DRAFT select:

Jeremy Cash SS from Duke.

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This was a tough choice because several really good players have dropped down from where I thought they should go and a player I need is available at about the right time. But now I have to follow my philosophy of BPA.
 
TexansSeminole said:
I haven't done a proper write up for any of my Bucs' picks thus far, so bear with me while I explain my mindset going into this draft.

I watched quite a bit of the Bucs' last year and I noticed three main issues:

1. The offensive line was terrible and also very young.
2. The defense was horribly coached and schemed, though talented.
3. Their receivers didn't play that well and outside of Mike Evans, they don't have talent for the future.

This off season they signed J.R. Sweezy at G from Seattle. Good signing for them, they needed it. They have two right tackles (one obviously played left tackle) and they didn't play at all well last year. Cherilus has been better in his past and Doctson was much better prior to last year. I took Ronnie Stanley in the 1st round for them, as I think Cherilus is as good as gone as soon as he doesn't HAVE to play (think Newton). I think Doctson can actually improve, or atleast return to his decent playing status.

They also signed Robert Ayers, DE from the Giants and Brent Grimes, CB from the Dolphins. Ayers is kind of in the same mold as their other DEs, although he is a better pass rusher. They've got solid DEs, they just don't have dynamic pass rushers, so that's a need. CB is often listed as a need, but honestly I think they have some talented guys. Their Lovie Smith scheming last year was downright migraine inducive to watch. I think guys like Jonathan Banks, Alterraun Verner, and some of their younger guys could improve simply with better scheming and coaching under Mike Smith, so I actually don't think they need CB as highly as alot of people think. They also have Brent Grimes (as I said), Mike Jenkins, and signed Josh Robinson. They have talent at the position.

Just a little explanation on my thinking to the very few who are interested in it, or the few that want to know a bit more about the Bucs.

Having said that, after taking:

Round 1: Ronnie Stanley, OT, Notre Dame
Round 2: Karl Joseph, S, West Virginia


The Bucs take Malcolm Mitchell, WR, Georgia.

Malcolm-Mitchell.jpg


It's probably not a popular pick as far as value, but I am more and more impressed with Mitchell the more I go back and watch him and think about all he's been through. This is a guy that started out as an excellent athlete and has been through alot of adversity with injuries and has stayed positive. He was a true leader for his team. He learned to excel at the little details of playing receiver after losing his elite athleticism (he's still athletic). Mitchell has excellent work ethic. I like him to play in the slot with Mike Evans and Vincent Jackson on the outside. I think his personality type is great for learning under Jackson, because I think he will earn Jackson's respect almost immediately, and I think he can actually be quite good for Evans, as I think Evans is a bit immature. Mitchell could develop into a #2 receiver, but should see immediate PT in the slot. This is a really good fit IMO and it may be a little early, but I love it. Jameis will too.
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I think that's a fantastic pick. Evans can be the Kelvin Benjamin for Winston and Mitchell can be his Rashad Greene, who I think was the real key to their offensive success at FSU.

Jameis is the type of QB that needs a bailout guy. He is not the type to eat the ball or throw it away. Because of his confidence, he will force the ball downfield even if his primary reads are covered. A guy like Mitchell, who has the ability to get himself consistently open at the first two levels, can be the one that Winston can always look to if he's pressured or panicked.
 
Where do yall think the ideal landing position in the NFL for Bullard will be? Yall think he has enough speed to be a 3-4 OLB? Or is he destined to be a "smallish" DT in the NFL?
 
With the 77th selection in the 2016 Texans Talk Mock Draft, the Philadelphia Eagles select:

Xavien Howard, CB, Baylor

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Lucky said:
With the 77th selection in the 2016 Texans Talk Mock Draft, the Philadelphia Eagles select:

Xavien Howard, CB, Baylor

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Xavien is the player I was expecting to pick just before you if Cash had not fallen in my lap.
 
TexansFTW said:
Where do yall think the ideal landing position in the NFL for Bullard will be? Yall think he has enough speed to be a 3-4 OLB? Or is he destined to be a "smallish" DT in the NFL?
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I think OLB is out of the question.

I think his best fit is a one-gap five technique. He could play in some 34 systems, but he would look really good in a 43 Under system like what Atlanta, Jacksonville, and Seattle run.

He could also play three technique DT in some 43 systems.

I think a big reason you see his value fluctuate so much among media guys is because a lot of teams don't know what they would do with him. I think he's a first round talent but he only fits about half the schemes in the league.
 
TexansFTW said:
Another case of the idiot gene taking over before the cash game rolled in.

I was waiting for one of you jamokes to draft him before I hit yall w/ the rape bomb and laughed at you.
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So allegation means he did it. There is a difference between allegation and guilt. We know one which hurts his draft stock, but the other we do not.

Allegations remind me of McCartheism at it's worst, but it's fine if the accuser is part of the right victim group. Just jump right to sentencing and forget the investigation or trial.
 
Marshall said:
So allegation means he did it. There is a difference between allegation and guilt. We know one which hurts his draft stock, but the other we do not.

Allegations remind me of McCartheism at it's worst, but it's fine if the accuser is part of the right victim group. Just jump right to sentencing and forget the investigation or trial.
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No one said you couldn't draft him, only that you should Beware! With the NFL's new tough stance on sexual assault and abuse I'm taking a pass. If he's guilty he will never set foot on a football field again, as it should be.
 
Marshall said:
So allegation means he did it. There is a difference between allegation and guilt. We know one which hurts his draft stock, but the other we do not.

Allegations remind me of McCartheism at it's worst, but it's fine if the accuser is part of the right victim group. Just jump right to sentencing and forget the investigation or trial.
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Not too many rape allegations go down like this. Read up on the details. This isn't a scorned lover coming out weeks / months later making claims. This is a girl going from rape house immediately to hospital / police.

I 100% believe in gold diggers trying to exploit athletes. I take many of these stories with much apprehension and hesitation. But I also possess common sense, and my common sense radar tells me this does not look good. I get that everyone sees stories like this differently and I may very well be wrong. If I was a betting man, I would bet on this unfolding not to Oakman's benefit however. I am a betting man BTW.

Also rape at Baylor is nothing new. This seems to be the status quo with that garbage football team these days. I feel like someone just got sentenced to like 20 years or some crazy number just last year.

But if you want to draft him, go right ahead. He is officially off my board as of today. It's not like he was a model citizen to begin with anyways. I'm sure he was already off BoB and the Texans board too.
 
beerlover said:
C'mon man, just getting started , ya know all nighter :wesmantexanfan:

This makes two LSU lineman taken so far. I think he will be a solid starting RT, so good value in thin class, I'm not familiar with who the Raiders OL are bunch of journeyman & later picks so well played.
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Yeah sorry I didn't due a right up for him I was dead lol. But yea from what I've gathered about the Raiders Oline is its pretty much set everywhere but at rt. Their projected starter going into the season will be out for awhile with injury and the next guy has had injury problems his whole career so taking a solid rt prospect who has had to face the best dlines constantly through his college career seemed like a good plan.

BTW whoever is picking for the Jets. D'Brickashaw Ferguson just announced his retirement leaving a huge hole on your oline
 
Texian said:
No one said you couldn't draft him, only that you should Beware! With the NFL's new tough stance on sexual assault and abuse I'm taking a pass. If he's guilty he will never set foot on a football field again, as it should be.
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Unfortunately the timing couldn't be any worse. The case will not be settled before the draft so I believe he goes undrafted like the LSU Olineman last year. I'm not an Oakman fan by any means but still hope it's not true
 
Texian said:
No one said you couldn't draft him, only that you should Beware! With the NFL's new tough stance on sexual assault and abuse I'm taking a pass. If he's guilty he will never set foot on a football field again, as it should be.
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This has a eerily familiar ring to it. Didn't something similar happen last year right at the draft and the player was exonerated later, but got shafted in the draft?
 
TexansFTW said:
Not too many rape allegations go down like this. Read up on the details. This isn't a scorned lover coming out weeks / months later making claims. This is a girl going from rape house immediately to hospital / police.

I 100% believe in gold diggers trying to exploit athletes. I take many of these stories with much apprehension and hesitation. But I also possess common sense, and my common sense radar tells me this does not look good. I get that everyone sees stories like this differently and I may very well be wrong. If I was a betting man, I would bet on this unfolding not to Oakman's benefit however. I am a betting man BTW.

Also rape at Baylor is nothing new. This seems to be the status quo with that garbage football team these days. I feel like someone just got sentenced to like 20 years or some crazy number just last year.

But if you want to draft him, go right ahead. He is officially off my board as of today. It's not like he was a model citizen to begin with anyways. I'm sure he was already off BoB and the Texans board too.
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My point is that we don't know. We act like Judge Judy and fit the accusation into our own narrative rather than actually investigate.

On the other hand, even if the player is perfectly innocent of the charge, the mere charge has an effect on the players life and employment opportunities. I can't blame teams for choosing someone with no baggage over one with baggage, regardless whether it was earned or not.
 
Marshall said:
This has a eerily familiar ring to it. Didn't something similar happen last year right at the draft and the player was exonerated later, but got shafted in the draft?
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La'el Collins OG. Would have been top half of the 1st and the Cowboys got him undrafted after he was questioned in connection with the murder of a pregnant ex-girlfriend.
 
Marshall said:
My point is that we don't know. We act like Judge Judy and fit the accusation into our own narrative rather than actually investigate.

On the other hand, even if the player is perfectly innocent of the charge, the mere charge has an effect on the players life and employment opportunities. I can't blame teams for choosing someone with no baggage over one with baggage, regardless whether it was earned or not.
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Eh that's just human nature like the 1 guy in here earlier saying he knows strong is an idiot and is pretty much writing him off already, why because of 1 isolated incident with no prior problems. I agree he made an idiot decision, but how many of us made a stupid choice in our early 20s we wish we could take back? Rape however is different and whether he is guilty or not this will follow him
 
infantrycak said:
La'el Collins OG. Would have been top half of the 1st and the Cowboys got him undrafted after he was questioned in connection with the murder of a pregnant ex-girlfriend.
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In all fairness I think after he slipped out of the 1st or 2nd he said he would refuse to sign with any team that drafted him later instead wanted to take a short udfa to hit his next contract quicker
 
PapaL said:
Ah damn. I was going to nominate him for us with our next pick.

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lol. I think him and BoB have bad blood to begin with from when BoB kicked him off the Penn St team. Not sure if this helps his case to get back on BoB's radar, innocent or not.
 
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