Texans vs. Eagles Matchups

[dat_boy_yec]

It's weird how this thread started out talking about reason's each team would win. Yet what I see is everybody making comparisons. Our DL is better then yours, our QB is way better than yours. Your QB couldn't hold our QB's jockstrap. I'm surprised nobody's come out and laid it out with my mascot can kick your mascot's ass. (Which by the way Toro can kick your mascot's ass. There I did it.) Okay being serious though I'm gonna try to break this thing down for the Texans as how I haven't gotten around to watching the Eagles preseason yet.

Texans O vs. Eagles D. The Eagles D is very good and very aggressive, it is the latter that will lead to their downfall. It is true that we are implementing the ZBS and that will help our running game, but Trotter is excellent againts the run, but the key to the ZBS is taking advantage of the D's aggressiveness to open up holes. Once the d- moves a certain direction is is our line's job to stretch the field this is how our holes become open. Already I see a weakness to exploit in the Eagles D. Kearse and Howard always rush upfield to get to the QB so stretching them should not present a problem. Trotter and the DT's will be key for our running game. However I don't think we'll gash the Eagles with our running, but we'll have a solid rushing performance.

Many of you say don't put stock into the pre-season, but some things carry over to the regular season. One of our big plays came from a TE screen to Putzier the Eagles D is very susceptible to this. Watching the Denver game I saw a ton of variations of the screen pass. To FB's TB's and TE's I'm sure the Eagles will try to prepare for them, yet because of their aggressive nature I think these plays will cause the most damage. This will affect the safety and LB play. The Eagles will have to adjust to keep from being ripped open by our screens this will minimize their effectiveness in coverage allowing our passing game to breathe easier. Also while Trotter is great against the run he is still a liability in coverage so I see some passes being completed up the middle. I don't think they will really hurt the Eagles, but it should help to keep them honest.

I don't expect to see to many bootlegs in this game. Kearse and Howard are simply to quick off the edge and our tackles won't be quick enough to push them inside. I'm sure we'll try bootlegging once in a great while to try to catch them off-guard, but I just can't see the boot-leg being too effective against the Eagles D.

This game is gonna present a great challenge to the Eagles, because what the Texans are actually good at is what the Defense will have problems with. Screens this will be key in the game.

 

[flylikeaneagle]

That's 1 INT per game.... I'd hate knowing that my QB was going to throw 1 INT per game......

He's still at:

2,943 Pass attempts with 66 INTs.... 2.24 percentage and leads the NFL (active QBs). 2nd lowest of ALL-TIME.

 

[Green Bird]

It's weird how this thread started out talking about reason's each team would win. Yet what I see is everybody making comparisons. Our DL is better then yours, our QB is way better than yours. Your QB couldn't hold our QB's jockstrap. I'm surprised nobody's come out and laid it out with my mascot can kick your mascot's ass. (Which by the way Toro can kick your mascot's ass. There I did it.) Okay being serious though I'm gonna try to break this thing down for the Texans as how I haven't gotten around to watching the Eagles preseason yet.

Texans O vs. Eagles D. The Eagles D is very good and very aggressive, it is the latter that will lead to their downfall. It is true that we are implementing the ZBS and that will help our running game, but Trotter is excellent againts the run, but the key to the ZBS is taking advantage of the D's aggressiveness to open up holes. Once the d- moves a certain direction is is our line's job to stretch the field this is how our holes become open. Already I see a weakness to exploit in the Eagles D. Kearse and Howard always rush upfield to get to the QB so stretching them should not present a problem. Trotter and the DT's will be key for our running game. However I don't think we'll gash the Eagles with our running, but we'll have a solid rushing performance.

Many of you say don't put stock into the pre-season, but some things carry over to the regular season. One of our big plays came from a TE screen to Putzier the Eagles D is very susceptible to this. Watching the Denver game I saw a ton of variations of the screen pass. To FB's TB's and TE's I'm sure the Eagles will try to prepare for them, yet because of their aggressive nature I think these plays will cause the most damage. This will affect the safety and LB play. The Eagles will have to adjust to keep from being ripped open by our screens this will minimize their effectiveness in coverage allowing our passing game to breathe easier. Also while Trotter is great against the run he is still a liability in coverage so I see some passes being completed up the middle. I don't think they will really hurt the Eagles, but it should help to keep them honest.

I don't expect to see to many bootlegs in this game. Kearse and Howard are simply to quick off the edge and our tackles won't be quick enough to push them inside. I'm sure we'll try bootlegging once in a great while to try to catch them off-guard, but I just can't see the boot-leg being too effective against the Eagles D.

This game is gonna present a great challenge to the Eagles, because what the Texans are actually good at is what the Defense will have problems with. Screens this will be key in the game.

Would be valid. Except the Eagles, by far, run more screens on offense than any other team in the NFL. I'm thinking that their defense has seen it once or twice in practice, and the offensive and defensive coaches actually talk about this to each other.

What else?

 

[dat_boy_yec]

Eagles O vs. Texans D. I hate admitting this, but McNabb's skills at spreading the ball is really gonna hurt. That being said McNabb's unfamiliarity with Stallworth should play a part in the game. That being said I think our secondary will step up and make it harder to find the open receiver. The key matchups here will be up front though. Williams, and I don't care what anybody says, get's a great push upfield and while he has not had great success disengaging I can see the Eagles putting their TE on him on quite a few plays taking an option away from their passing game. I don't think the Eagles line is that great, I think McNabb bails them out of a lot of situations and I see Peek and Babin playing alot in this game because Philly is known as a passing team so they will treat a majority of down's as pass down and put alot of pressure on McNabb. The thing I think will give the Eagles the most trouble is that they don't know what we will throw at them. First Mario can drop into coverage, there aren't alot of DE's, strike that there's only one other DE that I've seen do that in the NFL so this alone will be an added dimension on our D. However our biggest difference maker will be the 3-4 we only played one down in this front during the pre-season so the Eagles aren't familiar with how we will run that scheme. Hell, I'm not familiar with how we will run that front so McNabb will not know what to expect, this is something that will really put the Eagles in a disadvantage. Unfamiliarity with our Defense will be a key this game as well.

 

[thunderkyss]

Dan Marino does not belong there then? or WARREN MOON?

Big difference between Marino & Moon.

Marino avg'd over 3800 yards/year for 16 years. McNabb is avg'ing 2700 right now, over 7 years.

Moon avg'd over 2900 yards/year for a 17 year career, while only playing 3 games in the final 2 years of that 17 year career.

Marino & Moon were both leaders of their teams......... McNabb is barely a cheerleader.

 

[Green Bird]

Eagles O vs. Texans D. I hate admitting this, but McNabb's skills at spreading the ball is really gonna hurt. That being said McNabb's unfamiliarity with Stallworth should play a part in the game. That being said I think our secondary will step up and make it harder to find the open receiver. The key matchups here will be up front though. Williams, and I don't care what anybody says, get's a great push upfield and while he has not had great success disengaging I can see the Eagles putting their TE on him on quite a few plays taking an option away from their passing game. I don't think the Eagles line is that great, I think McNabb bails them out of a lot of situations and I see Peek and Babin playing alot in this game because Philly is known as a passing team so they will treat a majority of down's as pass down and put alot of pressure on McNabb. The thing I think will give the Eagles the most trouble is that they don't know what we will throw at them. First Mario can drop into coverage, there aren't alot of DE's, strike that there's only one other DE that I've seen do that in the NFL so this alone will be an added dimension on our D. However our biggest difference maker will be the 3-4 we only played one down in this front during the pre-season so the Eagles aren't familiar with how we will run that scheme. Hell, I'm not familiar with how we will run that front so McNabb will not know what to expect, this is something that will really put the Eagles in a disadvantage. Unfamiliarity with our Defense will be a key this game as well.

So from your points, anyone outside of the NFC East will give the Eagles trouble because they are not familiar with them?

 

[dat_boy_yec]

Would be valid. Except the Eagles, by far, run more screens on offense than any other team in the NFL. I'm thinking that their defense has seen it once or twice in practice, and the offensive and defensive coaches actually talk about this to each other.

What else?

I don't know what screens the Eagles run, but I would imagine their variations are different then ours. This is a strategic game. The screens I've seen the Texans run have different options. The screen to Putzier had two screen options Putzier was not the first option. Even if the Eagles talk about it when their on the field will they be able to read our play, will they play the screen. If they do that takes away from their aggressiveness, because if you guard the screen then the running game can open up. That is the whole point of establishing the run. Even if not effective it makes them stay aggressive against the run. If they let up against the run that's when the run will hurt them.

 

[Green Bird]

Big difference between Marino & Moon.

Marino avg'd over 3800 yards/year for 16 years. McNabb is avg'ing 2700 right now, over 7 years.

Moon avg'd over 2900 yards/year for a 17 year career, while only playing 3 games in the final 2 years of that 17 year career.

Marino & Moon were both leaders of their teams......... McNabb is barely a cheerleader.

2700 yards over 17 years = 45,900 yards.

Good enough?

 

[thunderkyss]

LMAO!!!! I knew that all had to end. Yeah, back to the trash talking. You would not put Bulger in the Top 5 in the NFC?

Maybe..... I say top 10 easy, because I don't generally think best in the NFC, or Best in the AFC........ that's lame to say out of 16 QBs, I'm in the top 10...

So I say top 10, knowing it doesn't mean much..... not thinking about it too much.

 

[Green Bird]

I don't know what screens the Eagles run, but I would imagine their variations are different then ours. This is a strategic game. The screens I've seen the Texans run have different options. The screen to Putzier had two screen options Putzier was not the first option. Even if the Eagles talk about it when their on the field will they be able to read our play, will they play the screen. If they do that takes away from their aggressiveness, because if you guard the screen then the running game can open up. That is the whole point of establishing the run. Even if not effective it makes them stay aggressive against the run. If they let up against the run that's when the run will hurt them.

Oh yes. The vaunted Texans running game.

With Dominick Da.....

Wait.

 

[DallasTX_EaglesFan]

Check it out. The Eagles have never lost to a Houston team. Ever.

1972 - Eagles 18 Oilers 17

1979 - Eagles 26 Oilers 20

1982 - Eagles 35 Oilers 14

1988 - Eagles 32 Oilers 23

1991 - Eagles 13 Oilers 6 (House of Pain game)

1994 - Eagles 21 Oilers 6

2002 - Eagles 35 Texans 17

 

[thunderkyss]

2700 yards over 17 years = 45,900 yards.

Good enough?

Let's see him play for 17 years before we fit him for that gold Jacket

 

[dat_boy_yec]

So from your points, anyone outside of the NFC East will give the Eagles trouble because they are not familiar with them?

WRONG!!! Think about it. How much game film of our team do the Eagles have? Pre-season. Is it customary to run all your plays in defense? NO! So you know what that means first game of the season there is simply no way the Eagles will know everything we will run. Most other teams you can look at films of past seasons and know what they run, because you have a large source of information to draw upon. However this is the first game of the season they don't have a single real game to break us down on yet. It's not like they can go on what we did last season. Any game, you prepare by watching film, there is no real film to watch on our team. That'll change as the season progress and other teams study our REGULAR season games, but it's just logical the Eagles don't know what they're gonna really face.

 

[Green Bird]

Let's see him play for 17 years before we fit him for that gold Jacket

You can see him Sunday, at his best. Live and up close.

 

[Green Bird]

WRONG!!! Think about it. How much game film of our team do the Eagles have? Pre-season. Is it customary to run all your plays in defense? NO! So you know what that means first game of the season there is simply no way the Eagles will know everything we will run. Most other teams you can look at films of past seasons and know what they run, because you have a large source of information to draw upon. However this is the first game of the season they don't have a single real game to break us down on yet. It's not like they can go on what we did last season. Any game, you prepare by watching film, there is no real film to watch on our team. That'll change as the season progress and other teams study our REGULAR season games, but it's just logical the Eagles don't know what they're gonna really face.

So...

This would hold true for the Texans as well?

 

[dat_boy_yec]

Oh yes. The vaunted Texans running game.

With Dominick Da.....

Wait.

Funny, it'll be even funnier after we hurt your rush D ranking.

 

[GP]

Hey, Eagles Fan!

Tell Jabar Gaffney to bring his A-Game this Sunday. Oh, wait a second...he was cut. My bad.

Great job by your scouts! Keep up the great work.

 

[E-A-G-L-E-S Eagles]

WRONG!!! Think about it. How much game film of our team do the Eagles have? Pre-season. Is it customary to run all your plays in defense? NO! So you know what that means first game of the season there is simply no way the Eagles will know everything we will run. Most other teams you can look at films of past seasons and know what they run, because you have a large source of information to draw upon. However this is the first game of the season they don't have a single real game to break us down on yet. It's not like they can go on what we did last season. Any game, you prepare by watching film, there is no real film to watch on our team. That'll change as the season progress and other teams study our REGULAR season games, but it's just logical the Eagles don't know what they're gonna really face.

They have ways of getting around that...especially since the system they are implementing is the same as Denver's...how about looking at some Denver tape from last year to get an idea of Kubiak's blocking schemes and game plans? Also, I love how all of you Texan fans think that the Texans will be able to implement this blocking scheme and new offense perfectly in its first regular season game. As with all systems, it takes some time to get a new system down. I'm not saying it will be an easy game for the Eagles, but I'm looking for a decent amount of misreads, missed assignments, and broken off patterns by the Texans leading to a number of mistakes and some turnovers.

 

[dat_boy_yec]

So...

This would hold true for the Texans as well?

Gee, Andy Reid has been in Philly for how long now? Is he suddenly going to implement a brand new offensive scheme? No, we got tons of film we can review to get ready for your schemes, because you're still running the same scheme from all those years.

 

[GP]

So...

This would hold true for the Texans as well?

Nope. Andy Reid has been your coach for a loooooooong time. We'll just watch last year's tapes of all your games. You have zero film on Kubiak as a head coach. I guess you can watch some of the old Broncos footage when Kubiak was there, but Kubiak's smart enough to throw in a lot of wrinkles to the gameplan that he might not have been able to utilize under Shanahan's system.

I must admit: It'll be a great game, but I think we have the edge with the hunger to prove people wrong.

 

[Green Bird]

Hey, Eagles Fan!

Tell Jabar Gaffney to bring his A-Game this Sunday. Oh, wait a second...he was cut. My bad.

Great job by your scouts! Keep up the great work.

Seeing that he was the #2 WR in Houston last year....

Your #2 couldn't even make it in Philly.

 

[dat_boy_yec]

They have ways of getting around that...especially since the system they are implementing is the same as Denver's...how about looking at some Denver tape from last year to get an idea of Kubiak's blocking schemes and game plans? Also, I love how all of you Texan fans think that the Texans will be able to implement this blocking scheme and new offense perfectly in its first regular season game. As with all systems, it takes some time to get a new system down. I'm not saying it will be an easy game for the Eagles, but I'm looking for a decent amount of misreads, missed assignments, and broken off patterns by the Texans leading to a number of mistakes and some turnovers.

Are you serious? Did you see our game against Denver. Our game and schemes have tons of variation from the Denver game plan. I guess that's an advantage to us though, that you think you're playing the Broncos. I'm sure we'll make some mistakes, but I'm sure they'll have their game together.

 

[GP]

They have ways of getting around that...especially since the system they are implementing is the same as Denver's...how about looking at some Denver tape from last year to get an idea of Kubiak's blocking schemes and game plans? Also, I love how all of you Texan fans think that the Texans will be able to implement this blocking scheme and new offense perfectly in its first regular season game. As with all systems, it takes some time to get a new system down. I'm not saying it will be an easy game for the Eagles, but I'm looking for a decent amount of misreads, missed assignments, and broken off patterns by the Texans leading to a number of mistakes and some turnovers.

An interesting note: I think our team, in this preseason, has been highly efficient and has had few turnovers compared to the teams we have faced. The ratio is looking beter for us than it has for our opponents. One of the things that has been 100% better this preseason is the turnover ratio for our team: We've turned it over very few times, and we have forced a lot of turnovers which we did NOT do well all season last year.

One of Kubiak's skills has been in making our team understand that stupid penalties and turnovers will cost us the game, and those have been wayyyyy down. I don;t have to look at the actual stats...I follow this team close enough to tell you FOR SURE that we will not be turning the ball over like we did last year.

 

[dat_boy_yec]

Seeing that he was the #2 WR in Houston last year....

Your #2 couldn't even make it in Philly.

Didn't make it back here either. So what's your point, this ain't last yr.'s team.

 

[blockhead83]

Just saw the sportsnation poll over at ESPN, roughly ~85% of the voting populace is predicting an Eagles win. That would make an upset all the much sweeter.

As far as us adopting a new scheme, running into lots of broken plays and misreads etc... that's really a minimal concern. There's so much roster attrition in today's NFL that you'll always have players playing in and learning a new scheme every year. We've been practicing these plays under this scheme for months now and should be able to make a largely accomplished appearance this Sunday. Most miscues should be placed largely on Car....err the players shoulders, not the inexperience in the new scheme.

Here's to a good game.

 

[Green Bird]

Nope. Andy Reid has been your coach for a loooooooong time. We'll just watch last year's tapes of all your games. You have zero film on Kubiak as a head coach. I guess you can watch some of the old Broncos footage when Kubiak was there, but Kubiak's smart enough to throw in a lot of wrinkles to the gameplan that he might not have been able to utilize under Shanahan's system.

I must admit: It'll be a great game, but I think we have the edge with the hunger to prove people wrong.

Yes. Because, as anyone who's ever seen a game knows that hunger is what wins in the NFL. And the Eagles aren't hungry at all.

FYI - I don't care how many times you change coaches in Houston. No O-Line + Bad QB play doesn't make much of a difference.

 

[Green Bird]

Didn't make it back here either. So what's your point, this ain't last yr.'s team.

Just using Texans logic.

 

[GP]

Seeing that he was the #2 WR in Houston last year....

Your #2 couldn't even make it in Philly.

And YOUR team was dumb enough to take him? That makes your team look even worse. I thought you guys were the cream of the crop? And you take a guy WE cut loose? Tsk, tsk. I thought you guys had higher standards.

All you need to know is this: Gaffney, Bradford (with the Lions, now), etc., were all "Dom Capers guys," and we all, as fans, could see that it was a bad fit.

You don;t have that luxury now. You're facing a whole new team, an honest-to-goodness contender. I couldn't say that the past four years. You would have come in here, talked your smack, and I would have mumbled under my breath, "Yep. You're right." Not now. I admit we might lose, but it won;t be a laugher that I think you guys think it will.

 

[Green Bird]

Great job by your scouts! Keep up the great work.

Yes because the Texans' scouting system is much better!

Seeing they chose the best player available in the draft in Reggie Bu....

What was that?

 

[dat_boy_yec]

Yes. Because, as anyone who's ever seen a game knows that hunger is what wins in the NFL. And the Eagles aren't hungry at all.

FYI - I don't care how many times you change coaches in Houston. No O-Line + Bad QB play doesn't make much of a difference.

Interesting you bring that up. How many sacks has your O-line given up. Last I checked you had 12.5 Sacks compared to our what was it? FOUR.

 

[flylikeaneagle]

Oh yeah my fellow Eagles fans, do not start thinking this is going to be a blow out and such. Texans will fight hard in this game and they play good teams very well. Trust me on this one. There is no such thing as a sure win. Anything can happen. Yes, the Eagles are better on paper but on any given Sunday.... anything can happen. The Texans will be tough.

 

[Green Bird]

You don;t have that luxury now. You're facing a whole new team, an honest-to-goodness contender. I couldn't say that the past four years. You would have come in here, talked your smack, and I would have mumbled under my breath, "Yep. You're right." Not now. I admit we might lose, but it won;t be a laugher that I think you guys think it will.

We know you're a contender.

Each year, you contend for that #1 draft pick.

FYI - No one said anything about a laugher. A win in the NFL is a win.

 

[GP]

Yes. Because, as anyone who's ever seen a game knows that hunger is what wins in the NFL. And the Eagles aren't hungry at all.

FYI - I don't care how many times you change coaches in Houston. No O-Line + Bad QB play doesn't make much of a difference.

That Eagles team is NOT hungry. Well, maybe for Campbell's Chunky Soup...but that's it. They are "maintaining" and coasting. Trying to ride the coattails of their previous successes. I don;t see much of anything new in that team except taking on another head case WR in Donte Stallworth.

Andy's losing control, mental control of his team. He came in and righted a ship that was sinking. He did a great job. But the Eagles have flattened out, they are (in my opinion) not a real factor anymore. Donovan can sometimes will them to a victory, but it's getting to be a rarity.

They got away from running the ball last year. Donovan is STILL angry and bitter about T.O., and you can tell he really hasn't let it go yet...he still makes comments and he still chooses to address it when asked by a reporter. He's a class guy, don't get me wrong, but that T.O. situation really wrecked him and his focus. He "used to be" the guy who had fun, who was just playing a game. Now, he's trying to prove something. Too much pressure.

You guys are struggling to find WRs...even Joe Horn said "I like Donte, but he was just not getting it done here. If Philly can get him to do something, it would be a miracle. I guess it can happen. We'll see." I mean, for a guy to dog a teammate like that, on his way out, is a BIG indicator that the Eagles are ONCE AGAIN taking on another head case like they did with T.O.

Sorry, the Eagles are old news. The Giants and Cowboys are clearly better than your team. You will likely beat out Washington this year, but that's it.

 

[Green Bird]

Interesting you bring that up. How many sacks has your O-line given up. Last I checked you had 12.5 Sacks compared to our what was it? FOUR.

Again, what is it with these preseason stats?

See, folks. This is what I'm talking about. When players who aren't even on the roster today screw up, you want to use it to boost your argument.

OK. You want preseason stats? McNabb was sacked once in the preseason.

Juqua Thomas, our #4 DE, led the league in sacks.

 

[GP]

Yes because the Texans' scouting system is much better!

Seeing they chose the best player available in the draft in Reggie Bu....

What was that?

You follow no other team but your own. You are going to find that the guys on this board, and the ladies on this board, too, are true fans of the game and not just our own team. Visitors consistently tell us that we have a pretty good grasp on all things NFL. Not bragging, but I am saying that you are not running into a place here where people make neat avatars and can only crack out the "Yeah, $%^#!@ we are going to kick some butt this weekend. WE RULE!!!!!!!!!!" I have been to other boards, and I see 3rd-grade conversations. Not here. A visitor quickly sees that we're not just about the smack talk. We can bring the heat with serious debate, too.

Here's a quick tutorial to get you up-to-speed on what THIS YEAR's Texans team looks like:

Wali Lundy, 6th Round pick gets 59 or 60 yds and a TD in 1st pre-season game against the Chiefs.

Reggie Bush, 2nd pick overall, gets 59 or 60 yds. and no TD on same amount of carries (and their receiving yds. were identical, too).

Same results. Less money. AND, we got a freak of nature who will last longer than Reggie due to the career lifespan of RBs vs. DEs. AND, dominant teams have dominant DEs (Panthers, for example). A dominant DE makes the entire team better.

Kubiak's system affords the owner of a team to spend his money elsewhere rather than on the superstar running back. The zone blocking scheme for the Texans provides late-round guys like Terrell Davis the fortune of becoming just as big of a producer as the Reggie Bush's pf the world.

We made the right choice for what we're trying to accomplish: Stop the Colts.

 

[thunderkyss]

You can see him Sunday, at his best. Live and up close.

I'm in section 608, Row P............. it'll be Live, but no very up close.........

 

[flylikeaneagle]

Mario Williams was the right pick for the Texans... at the time.

 

[flylikeaneagle]

I'm in section 608, Row P............. it'll be Live, but no very up close.........

Me too. Cannot wait. Section 5-something-something.....

 

[Green Bird]

That Eagles team is NOT hungry. Well, maybe for Campbell's Chunky Soup...but that's it. They are "maintaining" and coasting. Trying to ride the coattails of their previous successes. I don;t see much of anything new in that team except taking on another head case WR in Donte Stallworth.

Yes, because they don't want to prove that last season was a fluke. So they are maintaining. And surely you'd want to go in and completely overhaul the core of a team that took you to 4 straight NFC Championship Games because that's how you improve.

Andy's losing control, mental control of his team. He came in and righted a ship that was sinking. He did a great job. But the Eagles have flattened out, they are (in my opinion) not a real factor anymore. Donovan can sometimes will them to a victory, but it's getting to be a rarity.

He got rid of the team's problems from last year. Flattened out? Explain.

They got away from running the ball last year.

With your top 2 RB on Injured Reserve, it tends to happen

Donovan is STILL angry and bitter about T.O., and you can tell he really hasn't let it go yet...he still makes comments and he still chooses to address it when asked by a reporter.

If you're asked a question, don't you usually answer it? Stupid argument

He's a class guy, don't get me wrong, but that T.O. situation really wrecked him and his focus. He "used to be" the guy who had fun, who was just playing a game. Now, he's trying to prove something. Too much pressure.

Should have been at training camp this year. Same ole' Donovan!

You guys are struggling to find WRs...even Joe Horn said "I like Donte, but he was just not getting it done here. If Philly can get him to do something, it would be a miracle. I guess it can happen. We'll see." I mean, for a guy to dog a teammate like that, on his way out, is a BIG indicator that the Eagles are ONCE AGAIN taking on another head case like they did with T.O.

I'm not sure what kind of head case he was. Except the fact that he was tired of losing. Donte Stallworth and Reggie Brown? I'm fine with that. Brian Westbrook coming out of the backfield, and L.J. Smith at TE? I think we're find at receiver. As for Joe Horn, I'm assuming that he would like to be the one "upgrading" to a new team. Anyone who bashes a former teammate on his way out, you have to question his motive.

Sorry, the Eagles are old news. The Giants and Cowboys are clearly better than your team. You will likely beat out Washington this year, but that's it.

The Giants are competitive. The Cowboys are just another production of ESPN. The same way they kept picking Indianapolis to beat New England in the playoffs in 2003 and 2004

09/10/2006

 

[thunderkyss]

Interesting you bring that up. How many sacks has your O-line given up. Last I checked you had 12.5 Sacks compared to our what was it? FOUR.

Again, what is it with these preseason stats?

See, folks. This is what I'm talking about. When players who aren't even on the roster today screw up, you want to use it to boost your argument.

OK. You want preseason stats? McNabb was sacked once in the preseason.

Juqua Thomas, our #4 DE, led the league in sacks.

It also shows me that Phillies OL isn't & hasn't been much better than ours. IF it were, then you wouldn't see McNabb running around the backfield for 16 seconds before finding an open reciever.

McNabbs Mobility helps the Oline stats.

 

[Green Bird]

You follow no other team but your own. You are going to find that the guys on this board, and the ladies on this board, too, are true fans of the game and not just our own team. Visitors consistently tell us that we have a pretty good grasp on all things NFL. Not bragging, but I am saying that you are not running into a place here where people make neat avatars and can only crack out the "Yeah, $%^#!@ we are going to kick some butt this weekend. WE RULE!!!!!!!!!!" I have been to other boards, and I see 3rd-grade conversations. Not here. A visitor quickly sees that we're not just about the smack talk. We can bring the heat with serious debate, too.

Here's a quick tutorial to get you up-to-speed on what THIS YEAR's Texans team looks like:

Wali Lundy, 6th Round pick gets 59 or 60 yds and a TD in 1st pre-season game against the Chiefs.

Reggie Bush, 2nd pick overall, gets 59 or 60 yds. and no TD on same amount of carries (and their receiving yds. were identical, too).

Same results. Less money. AND, we got a freak of nature who will last longer than Reggie due to the career lifespan of RBs vs. DEs. AND, dominant teams have dominant DEs (Panthers, for example). A dominant DE makes the entire team better.

Kubiak's system affords the owner of a team to spend his money elsewhere rather than on the superstar running back. The zone blocking scheme for the Texans provides late-round guys like Terrell Davis the fortune of becoming just as big of a producer as the Reggie Bush's pf the world.

We made the right choice for what we're trying to accomplish: Stop the Colts.

Actually, I follow the entire league very closely. I can see outside of my team, unlike most on this board.

Preseason? Preseason? Please stop the preseason argument. Anyone can clearly see that a team that needs upgrading at every (and I mean every) position would naturally take the best available player. No, not the Texans.

One thing that fails to get noticed about Kubiak's system is that you have to have talent across the offensive line for it to work. It may be true that you can plug any RB in there and get 1,000 yards, but if you've got crap up front, it doesn't work.

It's going to take a lot more than a 2nd rate rookie DE to stop the Colts. Start with prayer and poisoning their pre-game meal.

 

[GP]

We put our top guy on I.R. and didn't even sweat it. Seriously. We were sad for Domanick because he has been a great player, but you should see the talk around here (and it isn't "denial"). We see the results already: We can put less-known guys in at RB and get the same results every time.

How so? Because we have a blocking system that makes winners out of most anybody. Denver consistently puts in no-name guys..guys who were NEVER on any other team's draft boards...and they crank out the yards and TDs.

Heck, they even let two guys swap carries and they STILL produce.

I'm sorry your team doesn't have a modern blocking scheme that allows you to plug-and-play any number of running backs. Must stink to have the whole weight of the running game resting on two guys' shoulders. How smart is that? "Uh oh. Our running backs are gone. Well, I guess that's it, isn't it? Better start throwing the ball now. Can't wait until next year to get those guys back. THEN we'll be back in first place."

And the Cowboys are NOT a production of ESPN. I hate them, but I cannot lie: Their backup QB (Romo) was having no problem working with the talent around him: That team will battle the Giants for the top place in the NFC East.

 

[Green Bird]

It also shows me that Phillies OL isn't & hasn't been much better than ours. IF it were, then you wouldn't see McNabb running around the backfield for 16 seconds before finding an open reciever.

McNabbs Mobility helps the Oline stats.

Yes, because Philly gave up 68 sacks a year ago, and McNabb has been sacked more than any other QB in the league since coming in.

Oh wait.

 

[Green Bird]

We put our top guy on I.R. and didn't even sweat it. Seriously. We were sad for Domanick because he has been a great player, but you should see the talk around here (and it isn't "denial"). We see the results already: We can put less-known guys in at RB and get the same results every time.

How so? Because we have a blocking system that makes winners out of most anybody. Denver consistently puts in no-name guys..guys who were NEVER on any other team's draft boards...and they crank out the yards and TDs.

Heck, they even let two guys swap carries and they STILL produce.

I'm sorry your team doesn't have a modern blocking scheme that allows you to plug-and-play any number of running backs. Must stink to have the whole weight of the running game resting on two guys' shoulders. How smart is that? "Uh oh. Our running backs are gone. Well, I guess that's it, isn't it? Better start throwing the ball now. Can't wait until next year to get those guys back. THEN we'll be back in first place."

And the Cowboys are NOT a production of ESPN. I hate them, but I cannot lie: Their backup QB (Romo) was having no problem working with the talent around him: That team will battle the Giants for the top place in the NFC East.

See what I'm talking about folks? This is the kind of talk that makes you guys the punchline in the NFL. You can have a modern blocking scheme, or a futuristic blocking scheme. You still need the talent, which you don't have.

 

[GP]

Actually, I follow the entire league very closely. I can see outside of my team, unlike most on this board.

Preseason? Preseason? Please stop the preseason argument. Anyone can clearly see that a team that needs upgrading at every (and I mean every) position would naturally take the best available player. No, not the Texans.

One thing that fails to get noticed about Kubiak's system is that you have to have talent across the offensive line for it to work. It may be true that you can plug any RB in there and get 1,000 yards, but if you've got crap up front, it doesn't work.
It's going to take a lot more than a 2nd rate rookie DE to stop the Colts. Start with prayer and poisoning their pre-game meal.

You follow teams closely, and you repeat the same outdated information that ESPN feeds you? Shame on you.

We no longer have a bad o-line. You're pulling out last year's soundbites. We have a true Center in Flanagan, a guy who is known to be a field general in the huddle. We shuffled guys around all year last year, playing a guy at center that admittingly didn't even remotely come close to playing center. We have a LT in Charles Spencer who has been BLASTING first string competition. We have tight ends who chip block, mis-direct, and get the ball up the seam (which we've never had). We have bootlegs that threw the Chiefs all over the field and opened up passing lanes like crazy. We have a deefnse that is going to better than yours. Bank on it.

Our o-line is not the same. Not by a mile. You haven't done your homework, but that's OK: You'd make a great a reporter. They still have us playing a 3-4 defense. Oh, did you think we were running a 3-4, too? Sorry. We are now in a 4-3 where we are forcing turnovers, getting sacks, and pressuring other teams' first-string QBs to make bad throws.

Yeah, you know our team realllllllly well.

 

[GP]

See what I'm talking about folks? This is the kind of talk that makes you guys the punchline in the NFL. You can have a modern blocking scheme, or a futuristic blocking scheme. You still need the talent, which you don't have.

Yeah, where's Jabar Gaffney when you need him?

Oh, that's right: The Eagles have spotted that "great talent" and signed him up "quickly" so no other team could steal him away from the all-knowing and all-seeing Eagles management.

The sign of a truly desperate team is when they think they can turn guys' careers around, or save them from their own destruction like they tried with T.O. When you see signings like that, you know the end is near. They are trying to cut corners because the team is spiraling downward.

Get those batteries into the freezer and get them all bricked up for when the Cowboys or Santa comes to town. Get that rusty ice-pick ready for some opposing team fan's car tire when they're not looking. See, I follow other NFL team closely jsut like you say you do.

 

[infantrycak]

It is true that we are implementing the ZBS and that will help our running game, ...

No, it isn't--the Texans have been a ZBS for 2 years now. In our 3rd year we will hopefully do it better (and with back side cut blocks) but we are not just now implementing it.

 

[Jerome_Brown_99]

2003 rushing yards:
BrianWestbrook: 613 yards 5.2ypc
Corell Buckhalter: 542 yards 4.3ypc
Duce Staley: 463 yards 4.8ypc
D. McNabb: 355 yards 5.0ypc

I never said Duce was your leading rusher in 2003. I said youu haven't had a running game since DuceStaley..... obviously, that year you had a running game was prior to 2003. 1600 yards isn't much of a running game, coming from 3 running backs...... it's not the kind of thing you plan around.

'sides tater, if you knew what you were talking about(being an Eaglesfan) you'd know when & if Buckhalter(your best runner) ever lead your team in rushing.



You know what has even less bearing on how Sunday's game is going to turn out??

the 2004 season.

So whatever you thought you had in 2004, forget about it. Right now, the 2005 bottom of the NFC East barrell is who you are. & Since the AFC is much tougher than the NFC, I'll say your 6-10 season is the equivalent to our 2-14.

and another thing. Let's look at SF to see if we can predict how the iGGles season will turn out.

They've been on a steady decline since not being able to satisfy the most explosive player ever to play the game of football(Terrell Owens in case you're slow........... or an Eagles fan). It only took them 2 seasons to get the #6 pick in the draft.

You guys picked up JeffGarcia................ you should be picking about 6 in the '07 draft.

Great, we haven't had a top 10 rushing team since 2003. Oooooo!!!!!!!!!!

In 2004 we were in the superbowl while the Texans were deciding who they wanted in the draft. That was one of the most explosive offenses in the whole NFL - you can't use that as an argument.

As far as 05, we had the following starters out for the season:

QB - McNabb - All-Pro
RB - Westbrook - Pro-Bowl
LT - Thomas - Pro-Bowl
WR - Owens - All-Pro
WR - Pinston - Starter
OC - Fraley - Starter
LT - Herremans - backup LT and current starter
RB - Buckhaulter - Starter
K - Akers - All-Pro
CB - Sheppard - All-Pro

And that doesn't even consider players that played the whole season injured, such as:

DT - Walker - Starter
DT - Rayburn - Starter

To be Frank, 05 was a lost cause. There were more pro-bowlers out that single season then the Texans have had in their existance. Add to that fact that Owens was being the cancer he is, and demanded so many passes, and of course the Eagles had problems. He's gone, and thus, we can run our normal offense again.

The fact that you think we didn't have much of a running game because we rotated 3 backs just shows your lack of football intel. We had a FEARED running game. In fact, the reason we lost the 03 NFCCG was because Westy was hurt. We have him and we're in the super bowl - something the Texans can't even begin to talk about.

As far as your 2 win season being equal to our 6 win season... BWAHAHAHAHAHA!!!! Look, when you lose 6 pro-bowlers to injury in one year get back to me. In fact, when your team has 6 pro-bowl players on it, get back to me.

No, you know what, when your team wins 6 games without JUST it's starting QB (who is completely inferior to McNabb in every way) get back to me.

And Owens the most explosive player ever? Look up our scoring offense from 03 vs 04. You won't find much of a difference.

And "steady decline"? HAHHAHAHAHA

1 losing season since 1999 equals a "steady decline?"

Well I guess that makes the Texans born LOSERS doesn't it.

Jeff Garcia? He's a former pro-bowler thats fighting for a backup position. He's nothing.

 

[E-A-G-L-E-S Eagles]

We put our top guy on I.R. and didn't even sweat it. Seriously. We were sad for Domanick because he has been a great player, but you should see the talk around here (and it isn't "denial"). We see the results already: We can put less-known guys in at RB and get the same results every time.

How so? Because we have a blocking system that makes winners out of most anybody. Denver consistently puts in no-name guys..guys who were NEVER on any other team's draft boards...and they crank out the yards and TDs.

Heck, they even let two guys swap carries and they STILL produce.

I'm sorry your team doesn't have a modern blocking scheme that allows you to plug-and-play any number of running backs. Must stink to have the whole weight of the running game resting on two guys' shoulders. How smart is that? "Uh oh. Our running backs are gone. Well, I guess that's it, isn't it? Better start throwing the ball now. Can't wait until next year to get those guys back. THEN we'll be back in first place."

And the Cowboys are NOT a production of ESPN. I hate them, but I cannot lie: Their backup QB (Romo) was having no problem working with the talent around him: That team will battle the Giants for the top place in the NFC East.

Let's look at two of those "no name late rounders" who actually left the Broncos to play in another system...Clinton Portis (2 seasons with the 'skins 2831 yards and 16 rushing TDs) and Reuben Droughns (1 season with Cleveland 1232 yards and 2 TDs). Both players put up comparable numbers while in Denver. It MUST all be the scheme. They are just plain good runners! +Denver actually has an assemblance of an O-line with former pro-bowlers.

 

[Jerome_Brown_99]

No, it isn't--the Texans have been a ZBS for 2 years now. In our 3rd year we will hopefully do it better (and with back side cut blocks) but we are not just now implementing it.

Ummm, thats not a plus. If they hadn't been in a zone bblocking system, at least you could argue there was potential. Since they have been, and have been so bad, and are starting a rookie LT, the OL will still stink this year.

Your OL has been the worst in football, and will continue to be so.