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???Looked for this in the NFL section, alas it's in the Texans section for some reason. Brock is down with a knee injury.
If Osweiler somehow works out in Cleveland, it's on our coaches...
I wouldn't be surprised is he's mediocre to average there.
Our team had multiple problems. The running game and special teams sucked too.
If Osweiler somehow works out in Cleveland, it's on our coaches...
Well, yes. But more than the coaches, it could be the system. More than just Oz, it's often the case, if a player goes to the wrong club/system, he's a bust. If he goes to the right club/system, he's in the HOF.If Osweiler somehow works out in Cleveland, it's on our coaches...
Well, yes. But more than the coaches, it could be the system. More than just Oz, it's often the case, if a player goes to the wrong club/system, he's a bust. If he goes to the right club/system, he's in the HOF.
The problem is he got worse as the year moved along.New OL, new receivers, new RB, TEs we didn't know we had, first time OC, first time starting QB... what could go wrong?
Gonna disagree. Osweiler had plenty of chances to show he could be an NFL QB and just did not. I'm definitely not a huge fan of OBrien but even with situations at other positions, I saw little that shouted the $37 million dollar man was even an average QB.If Osweiler somehow works out in Cleveland, it's on our coaches...
Gonna disagree. Osweiler had plenty of chances to show he could be an NFL QB and just did not. I'm definitely not a huge fan of OBrien but even with situations at other positions, I saw little that shouted the $37 million dollar man was even an average QB.
As many WTF passes and many in the dirt (and almost all short), I can't help but think of this video when I picture Osweiler any more.Gonna disagree. Osweiler had plenty of chances to show he could be an NFL QB and just did not. I'm definitely not a huge fan of OBrien but even with situations at other positions, I saw little that shouted the $37 million dollar man was even an average QB.
As many WTF passes and many in the dirt (and almost all short), I can't help but think of this video when I picture Osweiler any more.
HOW OSWEILER THROWS
Hey Doc you should know to avoid anything that makes you nauseous!As many WTF passes and many in the dirt (and almost all short), I can't help but think of this video when I picture Osweiler any more.
HOW OSWEILER THROWS
WTF happened to Osweiller though? I remember the majority of his passes being really accurate and on target in pre season. And I don't think it matters that it was pre season. We're talking about accuracy. It just completely went away once week 3 happened and it never came back. His slow release and wind up was already bad enough.
I didn't watch Osweiler in Denver but for maybe one game. There is never a time that I have seen him be accurate. I remember thinking that we were probably in big trouble during the preseason.
Definitely the hair they never had.Makes you wonder what Rick and Bill saw.
I didn't watch Osweiler in Denver but for maybe one game. There is never a time that I have seen him be accurate. I remember thinking that we were probably in big trouble during the preseason.
Makes you wonder what Rick and Bill saw.
He beat New England, therefore he's a winner? When the chips were down, he played his best?
One thing about Kubiak and evaluating Kubiak's young QBs, Kubiak protects his young QBs and only tries to put them in a position (play calling) where they can succeed. As Kubiak QBs, what you saw with Keenum, you saw with with Osweiler. You see a lot of play action roll outs and boot legs. With drop backs Kubiak calls plays with quick easy reads, check downs with options of getting rid of ball quickly and easily. Nothing to complicated, not a full playbook.
Everyone likes to point to the Denver vs New England game. The above is exactly what Kubiak did to win the game. He put Osweiler in a position not to make any mistakes and let the running game and defense win the game. And they did.
"You see a lot of play action roll outs and boot legs. With drop backs Kubiak calls plays with quick easy reads, check downs with options of getting rid of ball quickly and easily. Nothing to complicated, not a full playbook."
So very simple. Makes you wonder why everyone doesn't do it that way.
Nobody does the out route better.It was about mixing it up & keeping defenses guessing. Making pass plays look like rub plays, a great play action/ bootleg game... timely mixing in downfield strikes.
Not just anyone could do it.
Because according to a select bunch of posters here, and I quote, "players that leave the Texans go on to win the super bowl. Caca, poo poo, pee pee..."What the hell is the fascination with Osweiler still? HE'S NOT A TEXAN ANY LONGER!!!!!!
Is he a Texan now? NO! It needs to be moved to the NFL section
Won't change the past but he's not a Texan anymore
can we change the title of this thread to "Texans dump Stinky" and either move it to NFL section or lock and archive it?
What the hell is the fascination with Osweiler still? HE'S NOT A TEXAN ANY LONGER!!!!!!
What the hell is the fascination with Osweiler still? HE'S NOT A TEXAN ANY LONGER!!!!!!
Yet you're still clicking, reading and responding.
Can we please move this to the NFL forum?
Seeing Osweiler's name in the Texans forum is like seeing Colin Kapernik's name daily in the PFT site.
& lots of slants. Don't forget there were lots of slants that kept the chains moving. He'd bring them from everywhere so they were difficult to defend. Left side, right side, the slant, the TEs coming off the line.
& just in case someone got smart & played Andre for a quick slant, he ran past them for an easy go route.
Brock Osweiler takes blame for 'poor decisions, poor throws' with Texans
ByAaron Wilson
June 15, 2017
In his most candid remarks since being traded to the Browns where he's drawn solid reviews from coach Hue Jackson as he competes for a starting job with Cody Kessler and rookie DeShone Kizer, Osweiler discussed where he regressed with the Texans after signing a four-year, $72 million contract.
"The best part is I'm getting coached hard on my fundamentals," Osweiler told Cleveland reporters. "And I believe firmly that when your fundamentals and your feet are right as a quarterback, you're going to make great decisions and you're going to throw accurate footballs.
"I think that's something that slid last season. I'm not going to go into great detail on that, but they did. My fundamentals slid, and because of that, you saw some poor decisions and some poor throws. If you go back to 2015, I feel like my fundamentals were pretty tight."
Osweiler was essentially sold to the Browns in exchange for the Texans sending them a 2018 second-round draft pick and a 2017 sixth-round draft pick, netting a 2017 fourth-round pick in the exchange as Cleveland assumed responsibility for his $16 million guaranteed base salary. The Texans saved $10 million in salary-cap space and $16 million in cash this season.
Osweiler won one playoff game with the Texans last season, beating an Oakland Raiders team that was without injured starting quarterback Derek Carr. However, he was intercepted three times in their AFC divisional-round loss to the eventual Super Bowl champion New England Patriots.
Benched late in the season and replaced by Tom Savage before Savage suffered a concussion in the regular-season finale that forced Osweiler back onto the field, the towering quarterback finished the regular season with 15 touchdowns and 16 interceptions for a 72.2 passer rating.
In his final season with the Denver Broncos prior to joining the Texans as a free agent, Osweiler went 5-2 as a starter and passed for 1,967 yards, 10 touchdowns and six interceptions and an 86.4 passer rating.
"I think I did a pretty good job in 2015 of protecting the ball," Osweiler said. "Last year, I didn't do such a good job. So coming into this camp and this team and this system, I had a very large focus on making great decisions with the football, and I feel like for the most part, I've done that this camp."
I was told he was a troublemaker, a cancer, and had a bad attitude.
Of course, this was only when certain people were in face saving mode.
Don't get me wrong, Brock still sucks, but there was a lot of BS getting thrown around at the end of last year.
BS? You can think what you want. I heard otherwise from several reliable sources within the organization.
You might ask Rick and McNair. It's hard to admit your multi-million dollar baby was a mistake.What was the logic of starting Osweiler in round 2 if he was such a problem?
You might ask Rick and McNair. It's hard to admit your multi-million dollar baby was a mistake.
Not before the end of the season.But they already had admitted it, then they did again after the season
Well apparently Osweiler wasn't good at slants and we took them out of the playbook. Would be something the FO should have picked up on when watching his tape.
Well apparently Osweiler wasn't good at slants and we took them out of the playbook. Would be something the FO should have picked up on when watching his tape.
Not before the end of the season.