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Speedy said:
Hope this was tongue-in-cheek. One, CJ needs to face these next 2 teams because he'll likely see one or both next month. And two, Mills ain't having success moving anything.
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I agree.

I'm hoping it's unfamiliarity that's slowing S2roud's game. Playing these teams now may help him speed up in January.
 
thunderkyss said:
No... what doesn't kill you makes you stronger. This team doesn't need to be doing any sparring or shadow boxing right now. They need to put in some work & get ready to play big boy football in January.
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Throw in the towel. It's not going to get better. They don't have the physical or mental toughness to compete. CJ especially lacks the mental toughness. Two delay of game penalties after Dell went out. His head wasn't in it. This guy may not be who we all thought/hoped he was.
 
banned1976 said:
Throw in the towel. It's not going to get better. They don't have the physical or mental toughness to compete. CJ especially lacks the mental toughness. Two delay of game penalties after Dell went out. His head wasn't in it. This guy may not be who we all thought/hoped he was.
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Hopefully his mamma was watching & gave him a tongue lashing after the game.
 
austins23 said:
I don’t think the Oline has the physical or mental toughness…
Mixon, the WRs and CJ imo do.
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I thought the OL played really well today against probably the best defense in the NFL. They only allowed 1 sack and that's because Stroud needlessly ran out of bounds behind the LOS. I just hate that The Texans are basically in the same position they were in last yr. With Nico being the only receiving threat. Mxon is a better weapon than they had at RB last yr.

BTW, Schultz sucks.
 
steelbtexan said:
I thought the OL played really well today against probably the best defense in the NFL. They only allowed 1 sack and that's because Stroud needlessly ran out of bounds behind the LOS. I just hate that The Texans are basically in the same position they were in last yr. With Nico being the only receiving threat. Mxon is a better weapon than they had at RB last yr.

BTW, Schultz sucks.
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Oh no I agree, was speaking for the oline in general…for the past two years
 
Slowik isn’t the answer at OC. He needs to go. Will he? What I am hearing at least says no.

One toss to a RB. Stupid. KC threw six passes to RB’s. When you are down to scraps at WR, throw to the RB who BTW is good at that.

Count ‘em…Four quick screens to WR’s and every single one for a loss.

That’s just the start of my ire for Slowik. If he comes back…he needs to come back with some real answers instead of doing the same ole ****. watching Andy Reid run rings around Bobby wasn’t fun. The difference is so stark a blind squirrel could see it.
 
Porky said:
Slowik isn’t the answer at OC. He needs to go. Will he? What I am hearing at least says no.

One toss to a RB. Stupid. KC threw six passes to RB’s. When you are down to scraps at WR, throw to the RB who BTW is good at that.

Count ‘em…Four quick screens to WR’s and every single one for a loss.

That’s just the start of my ire for Slowik. If he comes back…he needs to come back with some real answers instead of doing the same ole ****. watching Andy Reid run rings around Bobby wasn’t fun. The difference is so stark a blind squirrel could see it.
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My big gripe with Slowik is there seems to be some concept he’s fixated on each week that he calls all game but fails miserably. Last week it was the pitch left run calls, this week it was the WR screens. Its like he is mercilessly jamming the square peg into a round hole putting this team in 3rd and long situations drive after drive.

I get it, the idea sounded good in the film room and you spent a lot of time practicing it all week. But you’ve gotta adjust when it’s not working!
 
TheRealJoker V2 said:
My big gripe with Slowik is there seems to be some concept he’s fixated on each week that he calls all game but fails miserably. Last week it was the pitch left run calls, this week it was the WR screens. Its like he is mercilessly jamming the square peg into a round hole putting this team in 3rd and long situations drive after drive.

I get it, the idea sounded good in the film room and you spent a lot of time practicing it all week. But you’ve gotta adjust when it’s not working!
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Agreed. I don’t know maybe it’s me…but I follow all the teams and I was thinking about the teams that run the west coast. Rams. 49ers. Miami. Texans. Might be a couple others not coming to mind. None of those teams are lighting it up on offense. All of those teams have regressed. Minnesota might be an outlier, but even they have lost some steam as the season is progressing.

Have defenses finally caught on? I’m not saying don’t use west coast elements. Andy Reid does, but he is so creative and varied. If Bobby stays, he needs to figure this out. If he rolls out the same offense next year with only a few minor wrinkles, I’m not optimistic. We need some wholesale change. I just worry Bobby isn’t the guy to do it. Kubes needs to come off the couch and help Bobby. Maybe be a consultant. I seriously doubt Kubes wants to FT coach again, but if we are going to run the WC…I can’t think of a better guy to go nuts and bolts deep to try to find ways to make significant tweaks that will make a real difference in 2025.
 
steelbtexan said:
I thought the OL played really well today against probably the best defense in the NFL. They only allowed 1 sack and that's because Stroud needlessly ran out of bounds behind the LOS. I just hate that The Texans are basically in the same position they were in last yr. With Nico being the only receiving threat. Mxon is a better weapon than they had at RB last yr.

BTW, Schultz sucks.
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I'm glad you said that Steel because I also thought the Oline played atleast marginally better, and I mean after K. Green came in to play RG.
Yea and when CJ ran out of bounds instead of just throwing the ball away I thought of D.Carr.
 
Porky said:
Agreed. I don’t know maybe it’s me…but I follow all the teams and I was thinking about the teams that run the west coast. Rams. 49ers. Miami. Texans. Might be a couple others not coming to mind. None of those teams are lighting it up on offense. All of those teams have regressed. Minnesota might be an outlier, but even they have lost some steam as the season is progressing.

Have defenses finally caught on? I’m not saying don’t use west coast elements. Andy Reid does, but he is so creative and varied. If Bobby stays, he needs to figure this out. If he rolls out the same offense next year with only a few minor wrinkles, I’m not optimistic. We need some wholesale change. I just worry Bobby isn’t the guy to do it. Kubes needs to come off the couch and help Bobby. Maybe be a consultant. I seriously doubt Kubes wants to FT coach again, but if we are going to run the WC…I can’t think of a better guy to go nuts and bolts deep to try to find ways to make significant tweaks that will make a real difference in 2025.
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Even though it's part of the game, the teams you listed have had key offensive skill players out for a big part of their season.
 
Porky said:
Agreed. I don’t know maybe it’s me…but I follow all the teams and I was thinking about the teams that run the west coast. Rams. 49ers. Miami. Texans. Might be a couple others not coming to mind. None of those teams are lighting it up on offense. All of those teams have regressed. Minnesota might be an outlier, but even they have lost some steam as the season is progressing.

Have defenses finally caught on? I’m not saying don’t use west coast elements. Andy Reid does, but he is so creative and varied. If Bobby stays, he needs to figure this out. If he rolls out the same offense next year with only a few minor wrinkles, I’m not optimistic. We need some wholesale change. I just worry Bobby isn’t the guy to do it. Kubes needs to come off the couch and help Bobby. Maybe be a consultant. I seriously doubt Kubes wants to FT coach again, but if we are going to run the WC…I can’t think of a better guy to go nuts and bolts deep to try to find ways to make significant tweaks that will make a real difference in 2025.
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The 1st paragraph is what's happening around the NFL. Unless teams have elite playmakers at the skill positions then big plays are unlikely to happen. Collins and Mixon are the only elite playmakers on offense.

Rams- Williams/Kupp/Pua

49ers- Kittle/McCaffrey/Aiyuk/Deebo

Miami- Hill/Waddle/Achane/Smith

Minny- JJ/Addison/Hockenson/Jones

Saints- Olave/Kamara/Rasheed/Moreau/Johnson

Packers- Jacobs/Kraft/Reed/Wicks/Watson etc... number of WR's.

Texans- Nico Mixon.

Thing is these teams with these types of playmakers aren't scoring that many more points than the Texans are and that's what has me not putting all of the blame on Slowik. This is also why I'm hoping they draft Warren and add an underrated playmaker (Young guy with speed) Bo Melton. Add Feliciano if they dont want to pony up for Trey Smith and draft a guy like Milum in the 1st or Savaiinaea in the 2nd rd and give Stroud/Slowik their best chance for success. I would probably draft 2 OL at some point.
 

I was watching this video explaining how there is a cyclical shift to defences currently having the upper hand in confusing the QB after ~15-20 years of the offensive side of the ball being in the ascendency.

I was intrigued at what Andy Reid did against us on Saturday, our defence is in your face before you can launch the ball long, and our DBs are some of the best at adjusting with the ball in the air to threaten the takeaway. Watching Mahomes check down to Kelce and DHop and dink and dunk us down field, the way the read is man vs zone and the explaination they Pat is waiting for eye contact to confirm the read etc. very efficient in moving the ball and if you can find the zone at the chains consistently and don’t offer up the INT under pressure, you can see how that can build a 13-1 record whilst everyone says how much you’ve dropped off.
 
welsh texan said:

I was watching this video explaining how there is a cyclical shift to defences currently having the upper hand in confusing the QB after ~15-20 years of the offensive side of the ball being in the ascendency.

I was intrigued at what Andy Reid did against us on Saturday, our defence is in your face before you can launch the ball long, and our DBs are some of the best at adjusting with the ball in the air to threaten the takeaway. Watching Mahomes check down to Kelce and DHop and dink and dunk us down field, the way the read is man vs zone and the explaination they Pat is waiting for eye contact to confirm the read etc. very efficient in moving the ball and if you can find the zone at the chains consistently and don’t offer up the INT under pressure, you can see how that can build a 13-1 record whilst everyone says how much you’ve dropped off.
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Interesting video, but regarding the Chiefs. In a league where games are normally decided by a handful of plays, they are at a tremendous advantage with the questionable calls that tend to go their way giving them a handful of “do overs” each game.

Its hard enough to stop Patrick Mahomes once. Even more so when he gets a mulligan or three.[
 
TheRealJoker V2 said:
Interesting video, but regarding the Chiefs. In a league where games are normally decided by a handful of plays, they are at a tremendous advantage with the questionable calls that tend to go their way giving them a handful of “do overs” each game.

Its hard enough to stop Patrick Mahomes once. Even more so when he gets a mulligan or three.[
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The league protects its best players. Brady got the same treatment. The guys before that are before my time, was it always the same?

I’m pretty sure that if there was a grand conspiracy afoot the championships would be divided between NY and LA teams pretty much exclusively.

Some of the calls were hard to take, the hit to the helmet didn’t seem forcible and happened with a flailing arm through a crowd, but rules is rules. The weird holding call on 3rd and long that gave an automatic 1st down was really odd. It’s not like Pat was getting hit much this game anyway, was clearly their plan to get the ball out before the pass rush could get home.
 
welsh texan said:
The league protects its best players. Brady got the same treatment. The guys before that are before my time, was it always the same?

I’m pretty sure that if there was a grand conspiracy afoot the championships would be divided between NY and LA teams pretty much exclusively.

Some of the calls were hard to take, the hit to the helmet didn’t seem forcible and happened with a flailing arm through a crowd, but rules is rules. The weird holding call on 3rd and long that gave an automatic 1st down was really odd. It’s not like Pat was getting hit much this game anyway, was clearly their plan to get the ball out before the pass rush could get home.
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It is not about the rules, it’s the consistency that’s not being applied across the league. And if it’s about the league protecting its best players, then Lamar Jackson, Josh Allen and several others should get the same freaking treatment.

I don’t care what anyone says, right is right and wrong is wrong. The league should not be allowed to dictate who wins period.
 
welsh texan said:
The league protects its best players. Brady got the same treatment. The guys before that are before my time, was it always the same?

I’m pretty sure that if there was a grand conspiracy afoot the championships would be divided between NY and LA teams pretty much exclusively.

Some of the calls were hard to take, the hit to the helmet didn’t seem forcible and happened with a flailing arm through a crowd, but rules is rules. The weird holding call on 3rd and long that gave an automatic 1st down was really odd. It’s not like Pat was getting hit much this game anyway, was clearly their plan to get the ball out before the pass rush could get home.
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I'm OK with making rules to protect QBs because let's face it, no one wants see Carson Wentz and Davis Mills battle it out, but if you're going to make those rules then you need to protect ALL of the freaking QBs, not just a select few. If they want to make bullshit calls to protect the great Mahomes to keep people away from him and keep him safe, then they better do the same damn thing for Stroud, or Richardson, or Nix, or Maye or any freaking QB. This preferential treatment bullshit for a select few is just that, bullshit.
 
I agree that rules should be evenly applied. I also think a lot of this is anecdotal. When our mindset is already well the refs are in the tank for Pat…we are no longer a neutral, completely subjective watcher.

My personal take was that the hit on Pat was a foul to the letter of the law, but I would prefer to see a little subjectivity brought in. the arm chop down on the helmet was due to going for the ball, was minor, did not result in injury or greatly impact the play. In short…let ‘‘em play. But..to the rule book that was clearly a penalty. They called it, so I can’t ***** that a penalty was called.

There were several instances where I thought fouls were either phantom calls, or should have been called. One of those was a foul on the Texans never called…and which led directly to a TD. So, no it wasn’t 100% in the Chiefs direction.

I don’t think anyone is in the tank for the Chiefs, but I do think teams and players that are consistent, that tend to play clean, and have a history of excellence get more of a benefit of the doubt than those who aren’t.

It’s simple psychology. Our brains favor excellence and good behavior. Think of it like a teachers pet. She knows all the kids are equal and thinks she treats them all the same. Tommy is such a good little boy 99% of the time, is always sweet, and brought me an apple today. So, I know he stayed too long in the bathroom and I just punished Jonny for the same thing yesterday, but I’m going to let Tommy slide this time because Jonny has a history of doing these types of things. And it’s mostly on the subconscious level but it’s 100% there.
 
If they call the game even Porky, I would not be in here complaining at all. The problem is the skit is so darn obvious. I seen the Chiefs offensive linemen routinely blocking in the back, holding and jumping the gun.

I see other quarterbacks get hit in the head all the times and these refs are not throwing the darn flag. There’s no consistency that’s why fans across the league are saying this skit is rigged.
 
Seems to me that CJ is getting happy feet.
This could be due to several factors - the main one being he has no confidence in his Oline but from what I have seen, he has become more conscious of the pass rush and this is greatly detracting from the quality of play we saw from him last season.
We definitely need to get a strong ground game going to take the pressure off him and open up the passing game. I say this as we have no consistent passing game right now.
Just want to get some other opinions on this.
 
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Texansphan said:
Seems to me that CJ is getting happy feet.
This could be due to several factors - the main one being he has no confidence in his Oline but from what I have seen, he has become more conscious of the pass rush and this is greatly detracting from the quality of play we saw from him last season.
We definitely need to get a strong ground game going to take the pressure off him and open up the passing game. I say this as we have no consistent passing game right now.
Just want to get some other opinions on this.
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It's worse than that. A franchise QB beats the rush more times than not. At the very least he burns them so bad, at least once, that it changes their whole philosophy about rushing the passer. With many QBs you need to control your rush, not allow the QB to get outside the pocket. Lamar Jackson for one. Pat Mahomes for another, for an entirely different reason.

Then you've got a bunch of clowns that you want to leave the pocket because he's going to do something stupid in your favor. Like run the wrong way for 10+ yards, step out the back of the end zone, hold on to the ball while running out of bounds for a loss.

As long as you've got that 2nd type, it doesn't matter how many weapons he's got, doesn't matter how much you spend on the OL, & it doesn't matter how dynamic your RB is. Because that guy touches the ball on every single snap. You're going to rush him with abandon. Pin your ears back on every snap. You don't have to wait for 3rd & long or obvious passing situations. As long as he's got the ball in his hands, if you get him off his spot he's going to do something to help you.
 
thunderkyss said:
It's worse than that. A franchise QB beats the rush more times than not. At the very least he burns them so bad, at least once, that it changes their whole philosophy about rushing the passer. With many QBs you need to control your rush, not allow the QB to get outside the pocket. Lamar Jackson for one. Pat Mahomes for another, for an entirely different reason.

Then you've got a bunch of clowns that you want to leave the pocket because he's going to do something stupid in your favor. Like run the wrong way for 10+ yards, step out the back of the end zone, hold on to the ball while running out of bounds for a loss.

As long as you've got that 2nd type, it doesn't matter how many weapons he's got, doesn't matter how much you spend on the OL, & it doesn't matter how dynamic your RB is. Because that guy touches the ball on every single snap. You're going to rush him with abandon. Pin your ears back on every snap. You don't have to wait for 3rd & long or obvious passing situations. As long as he's got the ball in his hands, if you get him off his spot he's going to do something to help you.
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A dual question for the board.
I haven't lost hope for CJ by a long shot.
He has talent - we have all seen that.
He has a long way to go in his development as he is still only 23.
So the questions are, can we say this is a sophomore slump? Or are there those in here that think he is fool's gold?
 
Texansphan said:
A dual question for the board.
I haven't lost hope for CJ by a long shot.
He has talent - we have all seen that.
He has a long way to go in his development as he is still only 23.
So the questions are, can we say this is a sophomore slump? Or are there those in here that think he is fool's gold?
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Some people wanted to give Mills 4 years. I say if Stroud doesn’t improve at the end of this season or next then he’s probably is who he is. But I want to see him with a new OC though. I don’t think Slowick is good.
 
Texansphan said:
A dual question for the board.
I haven't lost hope for CJ by a long shot.
He has talent - we have all seen that.
He has a long way to go in his development as he is still only 23.
So the questions are, can we say this is a sophomore slump? Or are there those in here that think he is fool's gold?
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Sophomore slumps for sure, plus the beaten he’s encountered all season long. Hopefully he’s not David Carr’d.
 
We probably lost a prime time game next year with the Christmas Day performance.

Which I ain’t mad at.

I like my Sunday 12:00PM games.

No more Thursday night games. No more 3 games in 2 weeks.

I really don’t care one way or the other for Monday night or Sunday night games either.

If the media and other teams don’t notice us that’s fine too.
 
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