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steelbtexan said:
Could this be because Watson is coming off of an ACL and usually guys aren't fully recovered until yr 2? Or that now Watson has cracked ribs and his lung was punctured? That would cause me to change my play calling to try to protect the franchise QB. You? Defenses have obviously made an adjustment trying to keep Watson in the pocket, he does most of his major damage outside the pocket. Watson needs to adjust his game and work on accuracy/reading defenses from inside the pocket. All of this should come with more experience. Further more, in addition to the atrocious OL play Watson seems to be suffering from somewhat of a sophomore slump. It happens to the best of them, the NFL is littered with guys that have gone thru this.

The problem I've got is with all of the running plays up the middle. It's OK to use them to set things up in the 4th qtr. But not in the 4th/OT.

Really what everybody here is b!tching about is the RZ inefficiency and that's not going to be fixed until the OL is fixed. Whether BOB is here or not.
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I hear you. The article I saw was a couple weeks ago and was before his latest and not his last injury. It compared the first few games. Basically BOB eliminated the things that worked last year before even trying them this year. His NEW better offensive scheme along with him brain washing him to stay in pocket i think is causing DW to get hit more. DW is not MS, I don't see him getting into fetal position. why did we abandon what worked last year without even trying it. I hear your reason but I don't think that is the only reason. To avoid hits DW must be willing to throw the ball away but if he stays in the tackle box like I am sure BOB is preaching him to do he either gets sacked or gets penalized for intentional grounding.
Also I don't think RZ gets solved with the BRAIN trust we have now. You see how BOB is dealing with it. Runs up the middle or cute little plays. They could have improved the O line this year but you can't fix something when you can't evaluate what you really have.
If you ask them I think they would say they just need time. Give them another 4 years after the most recent 4 year extension.. we will figure it out, Yeah 8 more years and we will have it but I need to know you are committed to me for those 8 years or I can't do it.
 
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LikeMike said:
The Texans are 3 plays away from being 6-0 this year... see how easy this is? Games often come down to the wire. We are Not a horrible Team - but we are Not a good team either. Something between 6-10 and 9-7 Sounds about right. But right now I am mostly worried about Watsons Health. He dodn‘t look right last game and with this O-line, there is a real threat that he is broken before long. Either physically or mentally.
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This Texans turd may consist of more fiber then the other turds in toilet bowl and therefore could float to the top of the water line.....errr, AFC South. But this would hurt the team more in the long run than hoisting the AFC South crown.
 
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Shishkabob said:
Sign Clint Capella and toss jump balls up to him 3 downs in a row?
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We had that in Jevoni Robinson (TE) who's 6-7 @ 248 lbs with a 40"+ vertical jump and 4.5 speed. Former basketball player. We should've found a way to coach this guy up. I mentioned that with his height, wingspan and vertical.....Watson might've had a target he could've thrown a 15'+ jump ball to.
 
steelbtexan said:
I have issues with some of BOB's playcalling

But I'm curious what kind of RZ/short yardage plays would like to see called to improve their efficiency?
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bunch formation trips to the wide side of the field. motion. check that, double motion .. let Deshaun get a better grasp of the coverage .. and then run a stretch draw to the short side with Miller. If that play fails then you set up the bunch for a rub route into the corner/QB sneak ... anything is better than the Buttchin Dive twice, and then the obvious throw on 3rd.
 
Texans coach Bill O'Brien disagrees with Jadeveon Clowney calling Blake Bortles 'trash'
Aaron Wilson , Houston Chronicle Oct. 15, 2018 Updated: Oct. 15, 2018 12:41 pm

When Pro Bowl outside linebacker Jadeveon Clowney called Jacksonville Jaguars quarterback Blake Bortles "trash," after Bortles shredded the Texans' defense last year, the comment created a stir.

The Texans had lost 45-7, the most lopsided defeat in the tenure of coach Bill O'Brien. And Bortles had three touchdowns, zero interceptions and completed 21 of 29 passes for 326 yards and a 143.8 passer rating. He was only sacked once.

Clowney was frustrated and doubled down on the "trash" remark about Bortles days later.

It's a stance from Clowney that O'Brien strongly disagrees with.

"I don't like that," O'Brien said. "I've talked to him about that. We don't believe that. Blake is a very, very good quarterback, smart guy. I've known him for a long time. I have a lot of respect for him."

In the wake of the "trash" comment last year, Jaguars fans sent trash cans to Clowney addressed to NRG Stadium.

Houston Texans defensive end Jadeveon Clowney says he will fill the trash cans Jaguars fans sent him with these toys that he will donate to deserving families around Houston.
Photo: Jadeveon Clowney

Clowney filled up the trash cans with toys and donated them at a Houston shelter: The Mission of Yahweh.
 
banned1976 said:
The Texans are 3 plays away from being 0-6 this year. Any other season that’s what this team would have been.
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And they are 3 plays away from being 6-0 or 5-1.
CloakNNNdagger said:
Texans coach Bill O'Brien disagrees with Jadeveon Clowney calling Blake Bortles 'trash'
Aaron Wilson , Houston Chronicle Oct. 15, 2018 Updated: Oct. 15, 2018 12:41 pm

When Pro Bowl outside linebacker Jadeveon Clowney called Jacksonville Jaguars quarterback Blake Bortles "trash," after Bortles shredded the Texans' defense last year, the comment created a stir.

The Texans had lost 45-7, the most lopsided defeat in the tenure of coach Bill O'Brien. And Bortles had three touchdowns, zero interceptions and completed 21 of 29 passes for 326 yards and a 143.8 passer rating. He was only sacked once.

Clowney was frustrated and doubled down on the "trash" remark about Bortles days later.

It's a stance from Clowney that O'Brien strongly disagrees with.

"I don't like that," O'Brien said. "I've talked to him about that. We don't believe that. Blake is a very, very good quarterback, smart guy. I've known him for a long time. I have a lot of respect for him."

In the wake of the "trash" comment last year, Jaguars fans sent trash cans to Clowney addressed to NRG Stadium.

Houston Texans defensive end Jadeveon Clowney says he will fill the trash cans Jaguars fans sent him with these toys that he will donate to deserving families around Houston.
Photo: Jadeveon Clowney

Clowney filled up the trash cans with toys and donated them at a Houston shelter: The Mission of Yahweh.
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Bull ShiObrien Brotles is hot sizzling garbage and he knows it.
 
gafftop said:
I hear you. The article I saw was a couple weeks ago and was before his latest and not his last injury. It compared the first few games. Basically BOB eliminated the things that worked last year before even trying them this year. His NEW better offensive scheme along with him brain washing him to stay in pocket i think is causing DW to get hit more. DW is not MS, I don't see him getting into fetal position. why did we abandon what worked last year without even trying it. I hear your reason but I don't think that is the only reason. To avoid hits DW must be willing to throw the ball away but if he stays in the tackle box like I am sure BOB is preaching him to do he either gets sacked or gets penalized for intentional grounding.
Also I don't think RZ gets solved with the BRAIN trust we have now. You see how BOB is dealing with it. Runs up the middle or cute little plays. They could have improved the O line this year but you can't fix something when you can't evaluate what you really have.
If you ask them I think they would say they just need time. Give them another 4 years after the most recent 4 year extension.. we will figure it out, Yeah 8 more years and we will have it but I need to know you are committed to me for those 8 years or I can't do it.
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Great reply.

How about 2 more yrs to draft and train up young drafted OL?

BTW, I'm not advocating giving him 2 more yrs.
 
"Oh man, I don't know," Clowney said when asked what he did to draw the penalty. "I tried to congratulate my boy. I said, 'Good game, homeboy.'

"He dapped me up, but the ref threw a flag. I asked the ref why he threw the flag, and he said, 'You were in his face.'"
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http://bbs.clutchfans.net/index.php...bench-key-to-championship-aspirations.293780/



So Clowney says he went up to a guy on the other team he knew and was like “good game”...Him and the guy bumped fists...

Ref threw the flag.
 
banned1976 said:
The Texans are 3 plays away from being 0-6 this year. Any other season that’s what this team would have been.
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Texansballer74 said:
And they are 3 plays away from being 6-0 or 5-1.
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Eh, it is what it is. It took a QB who has 3 picks for every TD pass to beat the Bills, but they made the play. It took a couple of I'm dumber than O'Brien coaching moments to win the 2 before, but, again, they made those plays too. We're 3-3 against teams that are a combined 14-22. Things are looking up.
 
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LikeMike said:
The Texans are 3 plays away from being 6-0 this year... see how easy this is? Games often come down to the wire. We are Not a horrible Team - but we are Not a good team either. Something between 6-10 and 9-7 Sounds about right.
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But what if there are 13 teams worse than we are on our schedule?
 
gafftop said:
I hear you. The article I saw was a couple weeks ago and was before his latest and not his last injury. It compared the first few games. Basically BOB eliminated the things that worked last year before even trying them this year. His NEW better offensive scheme along with him brain washing him to stay in pocket i think is causing DW to get hit more. DW is not MS, I don't see him getting into fetal position. why did we abandon what worked last year without even trying it. I hear your reason but I don't think that is the only reason. To avoid hits DW must be willing to throw the ball away but if he stays in the tackle box like I am sure BOB is preaching him to do he either gets sacked or gets penalized for intentional grounding.
Also I don't think RZ gets solved with the BRAIN trust we have now. You see how BOB is dealing with it. Runs up the middle or cute little plays. They could have improved the O line this year but you can't fix something when you can't evaluate what you really have.
If you ask them I think they would say they just need time. Give them another 4 years after the most recent 4 year extension.. we will figure it out, Yeah 8 more years and we will have it but I need to know you are committed to me for those 8 years or I can't do it.
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Finally found the article it was from SI Below is excerpt : 9/26/2018

For comparison, the Chiefs have used six or seven blockers on a combined 23.2% of Mahomes’s dropbacks. Interestingly they’ve also employed a lot of misdirection concepts, going play-action on 31.3% of Mahomes’s snaps and employing presnap motion 18.8% of the time. O’Brien and his staff masterfully built these misdirection tactics for Watson on the fly last season, but this year, the Texans have used presnap motion on just 5.1% of snaps—a decrease from 16.2% last year— and play-action snaps are down from 38.6% to 27.9%. Most telling, snaps with designed pocket movement, which really suits Watson, are down from 11.6% to 3.7%.

It’s hard to understand why the Texans are drifting away from their tactics specifically tailored for Watson. (O'Brien, understandably, declined to elaborate when I asked.)

Full article https://www.si.com/nfl/2018/09/26/deshaun-watson-houston-texans-bill-obrien

The more time the BRAIN thinks the worse it gets.
 
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DBCooper said:
Just watched the game again.

Our play design (not the execution or even the timing of play call itself) looks like it’s drawn up in crayon after watching the Chiefs vs Patriots yesterday.

Such a contrast.
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Yeah. Can't seem to scheme Hopkins, Fuller, or Coutee open. You'd think Buffalo has the best secondary of a generation.
 
DBCooper said:
Just watched the game again.

Our play design (not the execution or even the timing of play call itself) looks like it’s drawn up in crayon after watching the Chiefs vs Patriots yesterday.

Such a contrast.
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Have to hand it to you. No way I could watch that game again. After the game I immediately erased. I am having a hard time watching the game live once all the way thru to the end.
 
Speedy said:
Eh, it is what it is. It took a QB who has 3 picks for every TD pass to beat the Bills, but they made the play. It took a couple of I'm dumber than O'Brien coaching moments to win the 2 before, but, again, they made those plays too. We're 3-3 against teams that are a combined 14-22. Things are looking

Speedy you should know luck is apart of football. The Giants won a SB off of luck. But I hear ya, we look that freaking bad. I guess we can be excited about how our defense improved.
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thunderkyss said:
Yeah. Can't seem to scheme Hopkins, Fuller, or Coutee open. You'd think Buffalo has the best secondary of a generation.
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It’s like they are playing man and zone all the same time.

How many catches does Hopkins get if he doesn’t use his signature push off?
 
Texansballer74 said:
Speedy you should know luck is apart of football. The Giants won a SB off of luck. But I hear ya, we look that freaking bad. I guess we can be excited about how our defense improved.
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Hey, I'll take luck and ugly all the way to Atlanta. But that doesn't change the facts of a whole lot of things being wrong with this football team. Yeah, they're barely beating some mediocre at best teams with a little luck, but you can't count on luck consistently like that. Eventually you're going to have to play better football. Especially when you start playing better teams.

However, looking at the rest of the schedule, if they could ever figure out their RZ woes, every one of those games are winnable. That's if this o-line doesn't get Watson killed. A lot of average teams on the schedule and not one I don't think we can't beat. But you cant count on luck to win them. You're eventually going to have to start playing better ball.
 
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OptimisticTexan said:
That would be a big helI no, if O'Brien has his say.......and that goes for OC as well b/c absolutely no one could call his highly technical and diversified offense but himself.
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Our line coach will be fired at the end of the season and the brain will take over that duty as well. Who else can design and coach max-protect comebacks and 'block the guy in front of you' run game like our current guru? 2019 ... receivers coach you are now on the hot seat.
 
Scooter said:
Our line coach will be fired at the end of the season and the brain will take over that duty as well. Who else can design and coach max-protect comebacks and 'block the guy in front of you' run game like our current guru? 2019 ... receivers coach you are now on the hot seat.
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2019 he’ll be the HC, OC, Oline Coach, Receivers Coach, and assistant Defensive coordinator....
 
gafftop said:
Finally found the article it was from SI Below is excerpt : 9/26/2018

For comparison, the Chiefs have used six or seven blockers on a combined 23.2% of Mahomes’s dropbacks. Interestingly they’ve also employed a lot of misdirection concepts, going play-action on 31.3% of Mahomes’s snaps and employing presnap motion 18.8% of the time. O’Brien and his staff masterfully built these misdirection tactics for Watson on the fly last season, but this year, the Texans have used presnap motion on just 5.1% of snaps—a decrease from 16.2% last year— and play-action snaps are down from 38.6% to 27.9%. Most telling, snaps with designed pocket movement, which really suits Watson, are down from 11.6% to 3.7%.

It’s hard to understand why the Texans are drifting away from their tactics specifically tailored for Watson. (O'Brien, understandably, declined to elaborate when I asked.)

Full article https://www.si.com/nfl/2018/09/26/deshaun-watson-houston-texans-bill-obrien

The more time the BRAIN thinks the worse it gets.
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I disagree with one of the numbers... if you count the offensive line we have great pre-snap motion numbers :D
 
Re. our new RB PS acquisition, Josh Ferguson:

Rich Schmidt said:
played for the colts, some draft info on him, but underwhelming stats in NFL so think he is a body

http://www.nfl.com/draft/2016/profiles/josh-ferguson?id=2555228
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In college in 2011, in week 3, his tore his hamstring, was placed on IR and missed the rest of the season. He had hamstring issues intermittently throughout his college career. In the beginning of Aug 2017, he sustained a significant hamstring injury and missed most of TC. Then when he returned in Sept, he suffered a significant rib injury that dogged him the rest of the season. This August, he missed the preseason opener with a nagging hamstring, and, still having a hamstring issue then sustained a groin injury missing the majority of the preseason. Then when he returned in Sept, he suffered a significant rib injury that was expected to keep him out at least 4 weeks, and he was waived-injured, reclaimed by the Colts and placed on IR. Eventually, he was given an injury settlement and released.
 
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