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What sucks for me is I should be thrilled, I came into the season trying to be hopeful for the first time in years. 3 wins in a row should have me dancing in the street. Instead I've mustered enough care to just be frustrated. Our offense is continually getting worse and we're barely scraping by against bad teams thanks to the zebras, individual performances and a considerable amount of luck.

At this rate I wont even care at the bye week, and if O'Brien's back next year probably wont even watch.
 
Scooter said:
What sucks for me is I should be thrilled, I came into the season trying to be hopeful for the first time in years. 3 wins in a row should have me dancing in the street. Instead I've mustered enough care to just be frustrated. Our offense is continually getting worse and we're barely scraping by against bad teams thanks to the zebras, individual performances and a considerable amount of luck.

At this rate I wont even care at the bye week, and if O'Brien's back next year probably wont even watch.
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They got you too huh? Smh...that koolaid was sweet! Rockets start this week and Stros are on fire. It’s not all doom and gloom.
 
Blatantly stolen from /r Texans but made me chuckle...

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It is clear. The OZ really is a NFL QB if he doesn't have the BRAIN as his coach. Just think how good DW would be without BOB. The QB guru genius really is a QB killer. Whatever in O'brien's past gave any indication he was head coach material. Again seems like great human being, husband, father, ..... but just because a person are those things doesn't make him NFL head coach material. There are many great human beings, husbands, and fathers but not all should be head coaches.
 
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Scooter said:
What sucks for me is I should be thrilled, I came into the season trying to be hopeful for the first time in years. 3 wins in a row should have me dancing in the street. Instead I've mustered enough care to just be frustrated. Our offense is continually getting worse and we're barely scraping by against bad teams thanks to the zebras, individual performances and a considerable amount of luck.

At this rate I wont even care at the bye week, and if O'Brien's back next year probably wont even watch.
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I'm convinced we have a bad team. I read here, all week, that we have a bad team. But every week, everyone's surprised we played poorly.

I don't all of a sudden think we have a good team because we won 3 in a row. I don't think O'b is going to provide that magic spark to make this team all of a sudden good next Sunday.

If they manage to win another game because the Jags are truly worse than we are, I'll be pleased.

But I won't be shocked if they play poorly & (gasp) lose.
 
Jags and Texans, two teams struggling, same old story. I've been saying all along the jaggies aren't as good as everyone thought. No one in our division is very good. And I'm sure that will help OB I'm sad to say.
 
Texansphan said:
Suddenly I ain't as scared of the Jags as I was three weeks ago.
I have to give Texans a decent chance next week - it depends on Watson's mobility I believe.
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Lol, what you saying. OB gonna roll into Jacksonville and embarrass them for the third week in a row?
 
nice to see our line revert back to their natural state. Can't have them only allowing pressure to Watson on only 20% of his dropbacks what the hell is that got to get those numbers up. All seriousness I didn't get to sit down and analyze the game, had friends over and was grilling, but did we stop giving help to our line? I know the past 2 weeks we were allocating more help in protection, this looked like at first glance our lines worse game of the year.
 
banned1976 said:
The Texans are 3 plays away from being 0-6 this year. Any other season that’s what this team would have been.
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The Texans are 3 plays away from being 6-0 this year... see how easy this is? Games often come down to the wire. We are Not a horrible Team - but we are Not a good team either. Something between 6-10 and 9-7 Sounds about right. But right now I am mostly worried about Watsons Health. He dodn‘t look right last game and with this O-line, there is a real threat that he is broken before long. Either physically or mentally.
 
thunderkyss said:
I'm convinced we have a bad team. I read here, all week, that we have a bad team. But every week, everyone's surprised we played poorly.

I don't all of a sudden think we have a good team because we won 3 in a row. I don't think O'b is going to provide that magic spark to make this team all of a sudden good next Sunday.

If they manage to win another game because the Jags are truly worse than we are, I'll be pleased.

But I won't be shocked if they play poorly & (gasp) lose.
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I agree 100% with above. What is truly sad is with some successful free agent pickups or drafts in the Oline , this team could truly be a contender. The ignorance off the BRAIN TRUST ( personnel, scouts, coaches) is why the Texans are in this situation. We have over 24 million in cap space this year that we could have used to bolster our O line. Anybody know what could be done at this point except maybe bring in more Oline coaches or possibly an OC.
 
By most reports Watson was playing in quiet a bit of pain and discomfort and the OLines performance yesterday didn't help as it was really bad.
So bad I'm thinking that SteelB won't fill in Lamm & Davenports names when he completes his pro-bowl ballot this year.
 
gafftop said:
I agree 100% with above. What is truly sad is with some successful free agent pickups or drafts in the Oline , this team could truly be a contender. The ignorance off the BRAIN TRUST ( personnel, scouts, coaches) is why the Texans are in this situation. We have over 24 million in cap space this year that we could have used to bolster our O line. Anybody know what could be done at this point except maybe bring in more Oline coaches or possibly an OC.
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Been saying this for the last 2 yrs and some posters want to say give these backups some time to come together and become a cohesive unit. How much more time do we give them before we conclude that these guys suck?
 
Rumor is that in the Red Zone Bill's Buttchin takes over symbiote style and starts calling the plays. Would explain alot.
 
Is it just my imagination or does DW seem to stay in pocket more or move forward now when feeling pressure? It seemed that before he seemed to roll out more instead of staying in pocket or moving forward. If it is not my imagination then I would guess that BOB is the one in his ear getting him to do this. Under normal circumstances with an average Oline may be correct especially with a stature passer that BOB likes. But in this situation with an Oline that is absolutely garbage this is not the best advice. Get out of tackle box survey field and react or throw it away. BOB can't think outside the box and adapt. Just my opinion.
 
gafftop said:
Is it just my imagination or does DW seem to stay in pocket more or move forward now when feeling pressure? It seemed that before he seemed to roll out more instead of staying in pocket or moving forward. If it is not my imagination then I would guess that BOB is the one in his ear getting him to do this. Under normal circumstances with an average Oline may be correct especially with a stature passer that BOB likes. But in this situation with an Oline that is absolutely garbage this is not the best advice. Get out of tackle box survey field and react or throw it away. BOB can't think outside the box and adapt. Just my opinion.
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Last year it seems Watson was getting away from pressure by moving... this year even when he runs laterally, he's not getting to the edge
 
JB said:
I would have really liked to see more of Akins/Thomas this past game and not so much Griffin. Didn't Griffin flat out drop a td and have a penalty or two in the RZ?
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I don't recall Griffin dropping a TD this game like he did last. He had a shot at one, but the LB covering him made a good play to break it up. Akins and Thomas both whiffed on a few blocks, that I think kept them off the field more than they should've been.
 
JB said:
I would have really liked to see more of Akins/Thomas this past game and not so much Griffin. Didn't Griffin flat out drop a td and have a penalty or two in the RZ?
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Griffin dropped a TD in the Cowboys game. I think Akins can be a big red zone target. Not sure why he doesn’t get many snaps in the RZ?
 
JB said:
Last year it seems Watson was getting away from pressure by moving... this year even when he runs laterally, he's not getting to the edge
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Last year the middle of our line wasn't getting pushed back into him like it is this year. He could step up, and out then. Now when he goes to step up, he steps into a sack.
 
JB said:
I would have really liked to see more of Akins/Thomas this past game and not so much Griffin. Didn't Griffin flat out drop a td and have a penalty or two in the RZ?
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I agree 100%. I said during game do not throw a ball to 84 especially a contested one. He is too slow and clumsy to win any type of contested ball. Why he is even on the team is a mystery.
To think we used two draft choices on TEs last year when our need was Oline and now we don't even use them. Great ******* strategy BRAIN trust.
 
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Shishkabob said:
Last year the middle of our line wasn't getting pushed back into him like it is this year. He could step up, and out then. Now when he goes to step up, he steps into a sack.
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I beg to disagree. Martin was having a better year, but Allen and X were much worse than Fulton and K
 
JB said:
I beg to disagree. Martin was having a better year, but Allen and X were much worse than Fulton and K
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I would guess that the "QB genius guru god" Bill O'Brain is telling him to stay in pocket. "Trust the pocket DW, listen to me because I know all...." DW don't listen to the BRAIN because he thinks he is in New England with Tom Brady with a real Oline. Don't live in the BRAIN'S make believe world. Trust what YOU see and know. Again just my opinion.
 
JB said:
I beg to disagree. Martin was having a better year, but Allen and X were much worse than Fulton and K
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I remember them letting what essentially is a free rusher go every now and again, but Watson can generally avoid 1 rusher. But this season, this last game and the NE game in particular it has been what appears to be the perfect storm. Our tackles get beat around the edges, the middle won't always let a free guy go(even thought they do quite a bit when there is a blitz, their communication is straight garbage) but they get pushed back deep enough where Watson has no where to go when our tackles get beat.
 
Shishkabob said:
Last year the middle of our line wasn't getting pushed back into him like it is this year. He could step up, and out then. Now when he goes to step up, he steps into a sack.
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In some cases Watson is holding the ball too long.

Defenses have tape on Watson and have adjusted accordingly.

Watson is making a couple of stupid RZ throws a game,

Oh, I almost forgot, the OL still sucks.
 
steelbtexan said:
In some cases Watson is holding the ball too long.

Defenses have tape on Watson and have adjusted accordingly.

Watson is making a couple of stupid RZ throws a game,

Oh, I almost forgot, the OL still sucks.
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Yea there were a couple plays yesterday Watson might have held on to long, but I didn't see anyone open for him to get it to quickly unlike against NE. It looked like Buffalo did a good job of sticking to our receivers early in routes, which let their rush get home quickly. I'm sure there were plays to be made that I didn't see on my initial watch. But their defense seemed to have a very good game plan for going against a team with a poor line.
 
steelbtexan said:
In some cases Watson is holding the ball too long.

Defenses have tape on Watson and have adjusted accordingly.

Watson is making a couple of stupid RZ throws a game,

Oh, I almost forgot, the OL still sucks.
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I agree with above but what really does the 2nd mean. "Have tape" I think it means have tape on BOB's crap offensive scheme. They know how to defend his O scheme. You know DW and Texans screwed when these articles appeared
https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.c...xans-offense-is-a-big-project-this-offseason/
https://texanswire.usatoday.com/2018/09/17/should-seat-texans-hc-bill-obrien-start-warming/

Also one article that had stats showing 2017 vs 2018 of what worked last year and how he isn't even doing that this year because he felt the teams would know what to do. What about f#$%&ng execution does it mean anything. The article said basically what was effective last year was not even being used this year. Here again is an example of THE BRAIN wanting to be the brain and why the Texans are screwed. Sorry BOB you are not the smartest guy on the field. Again just my opinion

Anybody else see the article showing comparison of 2017 vs 2018 play calling and how it has drastically changed?
 
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gafftop said:
I agree with above but what really does the 2nd mean. "Have tape" I think it means have tape on BOB's crap offensive scheme. They know how to defend his O scheme. You know DW and Texans screwed when these articles appeared
https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.c...xans-offense-is-a-big-project-this-offseason/
https://texanswire.usatoday.com/2018/09/17/should-seat-texans-hc-bill-obrien-start-warming/

Also one article that had stats showing 2017 vs 2018 of what worked last year and how he isn't even doing that this year because he felt the teams would know what to do. What about f#$%&ng execution does it mean anything. The article said basically what was effective last year was not even being used this year. Here again is an example of THE BRAIN wanting to be the brain and why the Texans are screwed. Sorry BOB you are not the smartest guy on the field. Again just my opinion

Anybody else see the article showing comparison of 2017 vs 2018 play calling and how it has drastically changed?
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Could this be because Watson is coming off of an ACL and usually guys aren't fully recovered until yr 2? Or that now Watson has cracked ribs and his lung was punctured? That would cause me to change my play calling to try to protect the franchise QB. You? Defenses have obviously made an adjustment trying to keep Watson in the pocket, he does most of his major damage outside the pocket. Watson needs to adjust his game and work on accuracy/reading defenses from inside the pocket. All of this should come with more experience. Further more, in addition to the atrocious OL play Watson seems to be suffering from somewhat of a sophomore slump. It happens to the best of them, the NFL is littered with guys that have gone thru this.

The problem I've got is with all of the running plays up the middle. It's OK to use them to set things up in the 4th qtr. But not in the 4th/OT.

Really what everybody here is b!tching about is the RZ inefficiency and that's not going to be fixed until the OL is fixed. Whether BOB is here or not.
 
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Shishkabob said:
Yea there were a couple plays yesterday Watson might have held on to long, but I didn't see anyone open for him to get it to quickly unlike against NE. It looked like Buffalo did a good job of sticking to our receivers early in routes, which let their rush get home quickly. I'm sure there were plays to be made that I didn't see on my initial watch. But their defense seemed to have a very good game plan for going against a team with a poor line.
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They did a good job.

But Watson needs to throw the ball away in those situations and avoid the sack/hits. This will come hopefully as Watson gains more experience.
 
steelbtexan said:
I have issues with some of BOB's playcalling

But I'm curious what kind of RZ/short yardage plays would like to see called to improve their efficiency?
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Play calling options, with Watson injured and with the OL invisible and and with Griffin missing all 5 of his targets and with the RB type of numbers (Miller averaged just 3.1 yards per carry on 15 runs, gaining only 46 yards.........Blue averaged 3.7 yards per carry on 7 runs, gaining only 26 yards [if you take away his single 17 yard run, he averaged 1.5 yards per carry in the other 6 runs]), are going to become very limited.
 
CloakNNNdagger said:
Play calling options, with Watson injured and with the OL invisible and and with Griffin missing all 5 of his targets and with the RB type of numbers (Miller averaged just 3.1 yards per carry on 15 runs, gaining only 46 yards.........Blue averaged 3.7 yards per carry on 7 runs, gaining only 26 yards [if you take away his single 17 yard run, he averaged 1.5 yards per carry in the other 6 runs]), are going to become very limited.
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Seems elementary to me.
 
steelbtexan said:
They did a good job.

But Watson needs to throw the ball away in those situations and avoid the sack/hits. This will come hopefully as Watson gains more experience.
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My biggest issue with the RZ play calling was running the exact same play to Coutee as last week. I saw it coming when I saw the motion, the Bills obviously saw it coming. Why not give the same look, but run the ball with Miller there or fake it, and throw another pass? You showed that look last week, now change the play to fool the defense off of it.
 
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