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I know you were responding to a post on what moves could be made but I wanted to continue here vs the Week 9 GameDay thread.

I don't think trades are going to get this team over the hump. Do you think these players make this team a SB contender or simply a better team this year? I do see where it's an attempt to address needs since the OL is sucking and the injury bug has hit key players. But coaching has been a head scratcher at times and needs improvement especially the guy we have impersonating an OL coach. Sometimes a team under-performs or gets out-coached but we seem to have lapses multiples times in every game...seems like discipline (focus) is lacking.
I do believe that adding a guy like Slayton or Jakobi Meyers would make a big difference in the way the offense looks. Also a playoff vet like Peat could make a difference. I'm not talking about trading rd 1-3 picks.

I agree the coaching hasn't been great. The OL was basically starting 2 rookies and I'm not sure if Stroud or Scruggs are making the OL calls, but they are both very young and green at doing this. Kenyon hasn't played much, but he's sucked. It's not surprising that the OL has struggled. I'm thinking that Kendrick or Patterson will be upgrades even if Caserio doesn't make a trade to to upgrade the LG spot. Why? Because they've got more experience and the OL coaches have 10 days to get this right. This is really going to come down to whether Stroud or Scruggs can improve at making the OL calls.

Caserio really does need to add a guy like Slayton who can stretch the field. Threats to score anytime they touch the ball (Mixon/Collins/Tank/Slayton) are what this team is missing and will take some pressure off of the OL.
 
Fraud? They're not perpetrating to be anything other than who they are.

The problem is that most of us want to believe they're something they never claimed to be. A Super Bowl Contender.

The offense isn't good. The Jets have a better offense. They pass for more yards, they run for more yards, they score more.
The Jets defense is better than ours. They allow less passing yards, less TDs, they sack the QB more than we do.

The only way anyone can think the Texans are a better team than the NYJets is looking at the W-L record. That's a fallacy on our part, not theirs.

My hope is that they'll be a better team at the end of the season than they were at the beginning. We really can't ask for more than that.
I never expected the Texans to be serious Super Bowl contenders, though I can see why some fans did. Who could blame them? Analysts across the league were hyping the Texans all offseason, praising Caserio’s draft choices and nearly every move he made.

Sure, the stats you're pointing to are accurate – but they’re a reflection of a team that’s seriously underperformed this season. There’s simply no excuse for the offensive line to be this ineffective or for the repeated dropped passes by the receivers. And on defense? Basic fundamentals like tackling and strategic coverage are being missed entirely – there's no reason one of our weakest coverage DBs should be matched up against the opposing team’s top receiver. And then there’s the clock management, which has been abysmal; Ryans isn’t a rookie head coach, after all.

Last year, the Texans were 6-4 after ten games, and that team was exciting to watch. This season, after all the promising offseason moves and another draft, they might be in the same spot, but they look like a weaker version of last year’s team. It’s getting harder and harder to watch.
 
So the NFL trade deadline is tomorrow afternoon, right ? I dunno will Nick make a move ?
I just don't want him to do anything with our 2025 #1 draft pick, which would take a lot of interest out of the '25 Draft for us Texans fans.
And anyway I hope Casserto is most focused on the long-run.
 
So the NFL trade deadline is tomorrow afternoon, right ? I dunno will Nick make a move ?
I just don't want him to do anything with our 2025 #1 draft pick, which would take a lot of interest out of the '25 Draft for us Texans fans.
And anyway I hope Casserto is most focused on the long-run.

You'd rather be interested in the draft than improve the team, if they decide that that would be the way to go?
 
You'd rather be interested in the draft than improve the team, if they decide that that would be the way to go?

The good about this season….I don’t think the Texans would have to give up a RD1 or RD2 in a trade to upgrade a position of need. Sure, there might be a trade target that could demand a RD1, but there are plenty of targets out there on the last year of their contracts that might only command a RD3 or RD4 to secure their services.
 
The good about this season….I don’t think the Texans would have to give up a RD1 or RD2 in a trade to upgrade a position of need. Sure, there might be a trade target that could demand a RD1, but there are plenty of targets out there on the last year of their contracts that might only command a RD3 or RD4 to secure their services.

Ok but that's not the point. I'd far rather be interested in improving the team than having a fun draft lol...
 
You only make a trade if you believe this team has a chance this year.

Otherwise, build through the draft.

There have been several posters who have called this team imposters, frauds, etc. If that’s the case then you don’t make a trade for a player that can improve your team only this year.
 
You only make a trade if you believe this team has a chance this year.

Otherwise, build through the draft.

There have been several posters who have called this team imposters, frauds, etc. If that’s the case then you don’t make a trade for a player that can improve your team only this year.

I don’t think the Texans are imposters….I believe they’ve been hit hard with injuries and bad OL play. The good, the most important players will be back and hopefully Ryans, Slowick, and Slausser will figure out where to put their OL pieces to have the best unit going forward. Also, wouldn’t hurt my feelings if Caserio added a productive piece via trade.
 
You only make a trade if you believe this team has a chance this year.

Otherwise, build through the draft.

There have been several posters who have called this team imposters, frauds, etc. If that’s the case then you don’t make a trade for a player that can improve your team only this year.

Trading for a young guy is a this year only move?
 
Why trade for a young guy with an expiring contract for a draft pick you could have used for a younger guy with on a rookie contract.

If you know you can afford to extend the guy, then do it. Late first round picks sometimes don't pan out. A known quantity is better than an unknown quantity.

I think people get enamored with the unknown and potential. The comps are intriguing, I love reading up on those too. I get it... mystery books are fun to read, suspense movies are fun to watch. But sometimes you have to go with a known product rather than hope for the best.
 
You'd rather be interested in the draft than improve the team, if they decide that that would be the way to go?
If we were on the verge, or even just in the conversation of possible AFC teams to displace the
Chiefs as the 2024-25 AFC SB representative I'd say "pull the trigger" Nick, but that's for a future year. This year concentrate on using the first round pick to build the team for the future.
 
If we were on the verge, or even just in the conversation of possible AFC teams to displace the
Chiefs as the 2024-25 AFC SB representative I'd say "pull the trigger" Nick, but that's for a future year. This year concentrate on using the first round pick to build the team for the future.
Yep. We have to hit a home run with the first as we don't have a second.
 

n 2025, the Texans have a pick in every round but the sixth.
The 2024 NFL Draft concluded on Saturday afternoon, and looking ahead to the 2025 version, Houston has six selections next year.
With their own pick in each of the first four rounds, as well as the seventh, the Texans also have Buffalo's fifth-rounder.
They dealt their own fifth-round choice to the Eagles over the weekend in a trade, and in late August sent their sixth-rounder to the Steelers in exchange for offensive lineman Kendrick Green.
Green Bay hosts the 2025 NFL Draft, which begins Thursday, April 24.



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Trading for a young guy is a this year only move?
IMO, I don't think teams are going to trade a young guy that has flashed potential unless he is backing up a high caliber player that still has years of high production. Even if so, it's going to take multiple picks. There are rumors that the Jets have been receiving calls for Garrett Wilson. What do you think it would take to pull that off?
 
You only make a trade if you believe this team has a chance this year.

Otherwise, build through the draft.

There have been several posters who have called this team imposters, frauds, etc. If that’s the case then you don’t make a trade for a player that can improve your team only this year.
If Caserio made a couple of moves and the team was able to make the AFCCG with a chance to make a SB would you make a couple of moves if those moves didn't include rd 1-2 picks?
 
WR can be fixed by getting Nico back.
Caserio traded for Diggs for a reason, they need to add to the WR corps. Look at the Ravens as an example, they didn't really need another WR having Flowers/Agholor/Bateman and they still went out and got an upgrade in Johnson and they were in much better than the Texans before they made the Johnson trade. Ruiz from the Saints and Slayton from the NYG are the 2 guys I would target if I was in Caserio's shoes.
 
IMO, I don't think teams are going to trade a young guy that has flashed potential unless he is backing up a high caliber player that still has years of high production. Even if so, it's going to take multiple picks. There are rumors that the Jets have been receiving calls for Garrett Wilson. What do you think it would take to pull that off?
As you had said earlier if the trade or trades make a good difference to the path then be so it. Then again on the other hand you don't want OL and/or the Texans future CJ to be broken young or old.
 
I don't know what the cap implications are for the Saints. But a move I could get behind because Ruiz still has 3 years left on his deal and is just age 25.

I just added the Saints C-Erik McCoy to the list of my C targets. Colts C- Ryan Kelly is the other target. Both are solid top performing veterans….something the Texans could use more than a G.
 
Caserio traded for Diggs for a reason, they need to add to the WR corps. Look at the Ravens as an example, they didn't really need another WR having Flowers/Agholor/Bateman and they still went out and got an upgrade in Johnson and they were in much better than the Texans before they made the Johnson trade. Ruiz from the Saints and Slayton from the NYG are the 2 guys I would target if I was in Caserio's shoes.

Johnson was essentially free though. Panthers are paying his salary and all the Ravens gave up was a 5th while the Panthers gave up a 6th and Johnson. Those picks won't be that far apart and that late in the draft is meaningless really
 
Johnson was essentially free though. Panthers are paying his salary and all the Ravens gave up was a 5th while the Panthers gave up a 6th and Johnson. Those picks won't be that far apart and that late in the draft is meaningless really
Yep, I would've made that trade.

Slayton shouldn't be to expensive.

McCoy or Ruiz are going to cost, but I would pay the price because not only are they major upgrades, they're long term solutions IMHO.
 
the stats you're pointing to are accurate – but they’re a reflection of a team that’s seriously underperformed this season. There’s simply no excuse for the offensive line to be this ineffective or for the repeated dropped passes by the receivers.
Agreed. I'm not trying to make excuses. I'm saying we see who they are, why are we still expecting them to play better than they have?
 
I’m of the opinion that the crap they are missing should have been figured out by week 5 or so
Actually, the problem with the interior OL showed up in TC. But instead of addressing it then, “they” decided that the “5 headed monster” would make up for it.

And as much as I like Demeco Ryans, he is wearing me down with his gaslighting. I realize all HCs do that to an extent. But these days, I hate being gaslit by anyone.
 
Actually, the problem with the interior OL showed up in TC. But instead of addressing it then, “they” decided that the “5 headed monster” would make up for it.

And as much as I like Demeco Ryans, he is wearing me down with his gaslighting. I realize all HCs do that to an extent. But these days, I hate being gaslit by anyone.
He’s definitely doing the shuck and jive…
He needs to address the elephant in the room…
“Yes, our Oline has not performed up to the expected level. I will chew their ass in the locker room!”
Let’s see what we get Sunday night
 
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