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So OB now has someone to take the heat for his conservative ways. I would never believe that the new OC would call plays that OB hasn't already approved given any predetermined situation.
yeah, I was just speaking of this board and he is aligned with neither side of the 'great debate', he is impartial when discussing the Texans
There's no such thing, if he doesn't declare a side he will have the side declared for him depending on which side the facts he talks about support.
yeah, I was just speaking of this board and he is aligned with neither side of the 'great debate', he is impartial when discussing the Texans
There's really not a side.
There's are you going to be fair and atleast give Gaine/BOB a chance to implement their vision with a full draft and a yrs worth of experience for this offseasons young drafted guys.
Lol
There’s a side amigo....
One side thinks O’Brien will pull his head out of his ass and the other not so much.
There's really not a side.
There's are you going to be fair and atleast give Gaine/BOB a chance to implement their vision with a full draft and a yrs worth of experience for this offseasons young drafted guys.
I just wish those that are trying to look at the whole picture, the good, the bad and the ugly, would stop getting labeled as a BoB supporter/hater when we point out facts that one side doesn't want to acknowledge because it doesn't support their narrative.
Lol
There’s a side amigo....
One side thinks O’Brien will pull his head out of his ass and the other not so much.
Let him get the talent he wants in place and a yrs experience for that talent and if they aren't a true contender I will be on board. Last yr was yr 1 of a mini rebuild.
Au contraire mon frere
There is a wall and you're either on one side or the other or straddling. It's there on this forum as surely as it is in the NSZ
Au contraire mon frere
There is a wall and you're either on one side or the other or straddling. It's there on this forum as surely as it is in the NSZ
I just wish those that are trying to look at the whole picture, the good, the bad and the ugly, would stop getting labeled as a BoB supporter/hater when we point out facts that one side doesn't want to acknowledge because it doesn't support their narrative.
I just worry that he knows and can communicate what he wants
#Badmoderation
Facts don't matter much when passionate emotions are involved. Opinions rule and 'mine' is always right
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#Texans hire Carl Smith their QB coach. Spent the last 7-season in Seattle with Russell Wilson. Entering his 29th season in the NFL.
10:15 AM - 5 Feb 2019
Deepi Sidhu
✔@DeepSlant.....
Yates and Deshaun spent the whole offseason together prior to his rookie yearTim Kelly? Cushing? TJ Yates!!??
also worked with bledsoe in NE and Carrol at USCI actually like the Carl Smith hire.. he did a good job with Russell Wilson.
My sentiments exactly.I actually like the Carl Smith hire.. he did a good job with Russell Wilson.
I actually like the Carl Smith hire.. he did a good job with Russell Wilson.
also worked with bledsoe in NE and Carrol at USC
https://twitter.com/PatDStat/status/1092852999754563586
Before his first spring football practices as the head coach at Penn State, Bill O’Brien assembled his entire coaching staff for two days of meetings. One day was devoted to offense, the other defense, and each coach gave a presentation on a different aspect of the game while staff members asked questions.
The coaching industry calls these sessions "self-clinics," and O’Brien is a strong believer in their value. He engaged with each presentation, and during the day of defense-focused lectures that year, he became impressed by a new graduate assistant named Tim Kelly.
It was 2012, and Kelly was working primarily with the Nittany Lions’ defensive linemen. He offered a presentation about pass rush stunts that was "very interactive," according to former Penn State defensive line coach Larry Johnson. As part of Kelly’s lecture, players on screen moved as Kelly, a 6-foot-4 former defensive tackle, clicked through his PowerPoint and showed strong command of the room.
"That helped him (earn favor with O’Brien)," Johnson said of Kelly. "He could stand in front of all these veteran coaches."
In the years since, Kelly and O’Brien developed a stronger working relationship. O’Brien brought Kelly with him to the Texans in 2014 as an offensive quality control coach, a job Kelly held for two years before becoming an assistant offensive line coach, then Houston’s tight ends coach and, finally, O’Brien’s new offensive coordinator.
The team announced Kelly’s promotion on Tuesday afternoon, and it’s unclear whether O’Brien will cede playcalling responsibilities to him. Regardless of how they divide duties, it’s obvious O’Brien believes his offensive system does not need much tweaking, because he chose to install a coordinator who has learned the professional game through his system while remaining loyal to him.
According to people close to Kelly, when O’Brien left Penn State for the Texans, he knew he wanted Kelly on his staff in Houston but wasn’t sure he’d have an available position. While he waited to hear from O’Brien, Kelly accepted a job as a defensive assistant at Elon, packed his things into his car and told one of his former coaches at Eastern Illinois, where he played college football, that he "wasn’t sure if he was going to drive to North Carolina or drive that thing to Texas."
Of course, O’Brien eventually offered a job in the NFL, and Kelly headed to Houston.
"He saw an opportunity to go learn in the NFL," Johnson said. "He would’ve done any job, pencil pushing stuff. … Because he did that, he stayed very loyal to Bill. Look at where he’s at now. A lot of young guys would’ve said, ‘I’m going to go do my own thing.’"
Johnson said Kelly’s promotion is evidence of O’Brien’s continued belief in "The Patriot Way," which, among other things, includes a steadfast belief in promoting from within. Like Kelly, O’Brien jumped to the NFL as a quality control coach, doing so in New England before becoming Bill Belichick’s offensive coordinator.
Those who know the 32-year-old Kelly figure the qualities that make O’Brien believe Kelly is prepared for this coordinator position are the same ones Kelly displayed as a young coach, before and during his time at Penn State: an ability to learn quickly, a willingness to admit what he does not understand and a grasp of how to clearly communicate concepts to players.
"Tim is very astute," said former Penn State tight ends coach John Strollo, who helped Kelly get that graduate assistant job on O’Brien’s staff. "You explain something once, and he gets it. If he doesn’t get it, he’ll ask questions until he does. I knew he’d operate like that, and Billy coming from the Patriots, I knew he’d want a guy like that."
In college, as a defensive tackle, Kelly helped set the Eastern Illinois defense before the snap and made on-field adjustments. He lacked overpowering athleticism but had plenty of football smarts, and his college coaches thought that if he switched to offense, he might have had a chance to play in the NFL like his brother, Titans tackle Dennis Kelly.
But Eastern Illinois, an FCS program, only had 63 scholarships available, and having Kelly switch positions would’ve adversely impacted the team’s depth, so he remained on defense. When his playing career finished, he started coaching. He spent one season each at Illinois-Wesleyan and Minnesota State-Moorhead, where he met his now-wife, Katie, and became defensive coordinator midway through the team’s 2010 campaign. Then he jumped to the FBS level when his college special teams coach, Justin Lustig, recommended him for a graduate assistant position coaching defensive linemen at Ball State.
"We probably had some discussions about where he wanted to go, what he wanted to do," Lustig said of Kelly’s goals then. "I know he didn’t have any grandiose ideas about being an offensive coordinator in the NFL, anything like that. He just did things the right way, taking things one step at a time."
The next obvious step up the industry ladder came after just one season at Ball State, where Strollo worked with and met Kelly. After Strollo joined O’Brien’s Penn State staff, he recommended Kelly for a graduate assistant position coaching offensive linemen. Kelly traveled to Pennsylvania to interview, only for the Nittany Lions’ offensive line coach to end up already having a candidate in mind — but that didn’t matter much. O’Brien would just place Kelly elsewhere on his staff.
"As soon as they met, it was a bromance," Strollo said of Kelly and O’Brien.
At Penn State, Kelly worked under Johnson, the school’s longtime defensive line coach who claimed to have "never been one of those guys that said, ‘You’re a GA, go get me coffee.’" Instead, the two alternated responsibilities between coaching the interior defensive linemen and those on the edge. Kelly had a knack for identifying offensive linemen’s techniques and tendencies that the Nittany Lions could exploit each week, and he liked to demonstrate bag drills that sharpened agility.
"Coach, I still got this," Kelly would jokingly say after hustling through a drill, according to Johnson.
"Slow down now," Johnson would reply.
Kelly’s future was in coaching after all, not playing. And people who worked with him at Penn State figured he could rise through the industry if he stuck with O’Brien.
But when O’Brien left Penn State for the Texans in 2014, Kelly confided in Strollo that he wasn’t sure whether to work at Elon or wait for a call from Houston. Stroll recalled politely asking him: "Are you nuts? You’ve got to stick with this guy. I don’t know what you’re going to be, but you’re going to be something."
In the NFL, Kelly turned out to be an offensive coach for the first time in his career. He told another of his former Eastern Illinois coaches that when he first started working with the Texans, former offensive coordinator/quarterbacks coach George Godsey handed him a six-inch thick playbook that served as a reminder of the tall task ahead. Kelly — who was not available for an interview for this story — was learning a new side of the game while adjusting to football’s highest level. Yet it took just five seasons for Kelly to prove himself worthy of being an offensive coordinator to O’Brien.
Shortly after word of Kelly’s promotion got out on Saturday evening, a phone number with a Houston area code, 713, flashed across Strollo’s phone. He figured it was Kelly. Strollo answered and immediately offered his first reaction to the news.
"That didn’t take long."
Want to know more about new #Texans offensive coordinator Tim Kelly?@aaronjreiss traces his path from coaching a Division II defense to Houston, with a pit stop at Penn State, where Kelly made a presentation that impressed Bill O’Brien. http://theathletic.com/801821
patrickVerified account@PatDStat
#Texans hire Carl Smith their QB coach. Spent the last 7-season in Seattle with Russell Wilson. Entering his 29th season in the NFL.
10:15 AM - 5 Feb 2019
Deepi Sidhu
✔@DeepSlant
Three former #Texans players (T.J. Yates, Brian Cushing, Akeem Dent) are now on this staff. Also former Director of Football Operations Doug West is now assistant to Bill O'Brien.
Wes Welker Leaves the Houston Texans for the San Francisco 49ers to continue his coaching career.
Former Houston Texans offensive assistant Wes Welker will be leaving to the San Francisco 49ers to become their wide receiver coach according to reports. The Houston Chronicle's John McClain first reported that Welker was leaving to the 49ers shortly after the Texans announced their 2019 coaching staff.....
since turning into the all encompassing coaching..... don't think this has been noted yet.
https://footballmaven.io/texans/new...e439QSlTgrYl-gPMt_nkpMVh0VAfcoN1oPKb1WlEgnPBY
Let him get the talent he wants in place and a yrs experience for that talent and if they aren't a true contender I will be on board. Last yr was yr 1 of a mini rebuild.
Since I’m die hard and not going anywhere we shall certainly see.
Great story but nothing in there screams to me that he is ready for the job, but hey I've been wrong before.
Not at all. Do you want a forum that is top-heavy? I would prefer that the few rules (attack the post, not the poster; post a link when quoting from an external site; refrain from profanity if not in the NSFW forum) be observed, but Mods ain't parents.
Not at all. Do you want a forum that is top-heavy? I would prefer that the few rules (attack the post, not the poster; post a link when quoting from an external site; refrain from profanity if not in the NSFW forum) be observed, but Mods ain't parents.
I think they should do the telephone game with every play. BOB whispers the call to Yates who whispers it to Kelly who relays it to Watson. Maybe it will turn into a good play by the end of the relay process.Aaron Wilson@AaronWilson_NFL
Bill O'Brien on @Texans radio 'We’ve had different guys call the plays. I’ve called plays, obviously we had George Godsey call plays. There’s no doubt in my mind that Tim Kelly is ready to call plays and that’s something that will always be, like I said, a collaborative effort'
6:10 PM - Feb 5, 2019
I think with the right additions and a little bit of luck, this team could make it to the SB next year. Fix the CB position and this defense becomes a top 5 defense I think. Fix the o-line and this offense becomes legit.This is what's exciting to me this offseason. They have a real chance to add 3-5 premium talent guys if Gaine nails this offseason. The team isn't that far away from being a true contender. If Gaine has a great offseason I will go as far to say that they will be a contender but not a SB participant next yr. I also dont think their record will be as good next yr even though the team will be in much better shape. 10-6 due to a 1st place schedule.
Great story but nothing in there screams to me that he is ready for the job, but hey I've been wrong before.
Seems like O'Brien is impressed with animated presentations. My PowerPoint and presentation skills are strong. Maybe I should send my resume with an embedded PPT.
Not a fair comparison. More like a power-line worker who becomes a residential electrician.Well based on this I guess I should make my gardener my electrician..... lets see how that works out
The collaborative play call can work, but you have to have one person who is definitely in charge. The outside input can be good and help prevent the play caller from becoming blinded by their tunnel vision. One person has to be steering the ship, though. If it is play call be committee, that is not going to work.I think they should do the telephone game with every play. BOB whispers the call to Yates who whispers it to Kelly who relays it to Watson. Maybe it will turn into a good play by the end of the relay process.
The collaborative play call can work, but you have to have one person who is definitely in charge. The outside input can be good and help prevent the play caller from becoming blinded by their tunnel vision. One person has to be steering the ship, though. If it is play call be committee, that is not going to work.