Stupor Bowl Ring Not withstanding Joe Flacco STILL aint that great

[Dread-Head]

2 things won the playoffs and SB for Baltimore:

Red Zone Offense
Red Zone Defense

(COUGH)Refereesnotejectingaplayerwhowouldhavebeenejected100%ofthetimehadhebeenwithanyotherteam(COUGH)ignoringnumerousoffsidesincludingonatwopointconversion(COUGH)obviouspassinterferenceandholdingcallsnotcalled(ahem) Sorry...yeah...best team in the history of the Superbowl. The guys who won via blowouts and with good officiating...were WAY over-rated. Popcorn?

 

[handswarmer]

I said that about RGIII the other day. He doesn't need to run if he doesn't have to. He can be a pocket guy. I think Kaepernick can too. He has a big time arm and seemed to really be able to fit some throws into tight spaces...some to Vernon Davis. We will see on Wilson. Like him but not sure if he can be a guy that is pure pocket. Will always need to roll out as much as possible in my book.

They have what Vick doesn't have: accuracy a pocket presence.

 

[handswarmer]

(COUGH)Refereesnotejectingaplayerwhowouldhavebeenejected100%ofthetimehadhebeenwithanyotherteam(COUGH)ignoringnumerousoffsidesincludingonatwopointconversion(COUGH)obviouspassinterferenceandholdingcallsnotcalled(ahem) Sorry...yeah...best team in the history of the Superbowl. The guys who won via blowouts and with good officiating...were WAY over-rated. Popcorn?

Yoiu must have a pretty good case of the munchies by now....:mariopalm:

 

[Dread-Head]

Yoiu must have a pretty good case of the munchies by now....:mariopalm:

Nope...don't do drugs. Never saw the point. It's been my experience that drugs alter reality to the point where those taking them are prone to believe that "marginal" & "adequate" are synonyms to "exceptional" rather than antonyms.


They causes people to hallucinate and think that the number "5" is actually the number "16" and that last name "Flacco" is spelled "M-O-N-T-A-N-A". I'd never do drugs. The dreadlocks throw lots of people off, but hey DO I appreciate your concern. You're a solid citizen.

SURE you don't want some popcorn?

 

[Dread-Head]

They have what Vick doesn't have: accuracy a pocket presence.

True, but Vick is a more accurate passer than the Michael Vick of old.

 

[thunderkyss]

They have what Vick doesn't have: accuracy a pocket presence.

Respectfully disagree.

Michael Vick looked as good as any of those guys his first year out of prison.

2012, these guys were throwing to wide open receivers because of what their athleticism gains them. As soon as their OCs & HCs try to improve their production from the pocket, we'll see how accurate these guys are.

 

[infantrycak]

Respectfully disagree.

Michael Vick looked as good as any of those guys his first year out of prison.

Doesn't matter how respectfully you disagree but Vick had 13 passing attempts with 6 completions his first year out of prison.

You're looking for 2010 which was his eighth season in the NFL His pocket presence still sucked rocks as he took 34 sacks in 12 games.

Let's do it this way. We all know Vick is a fantastic athlete. We also know Schaub is a pedestrian athlete.

SCHAUB HAS TAKEN A 120 LESS SACKS IN THE SAME NUMBER OF GAMES. Let that sink in 120 less sacks - then tell us about Vick's great pocket presence.

 

[2012Champs]

Doesn't matter how respectfully you disagree but Vick had 13 passing attempts with 6 completions his first year out of prison.

You're looking for 2010 which was his eighth season in the NFL His pocket presence still sucked rocks as he took 34 sacks in 12 games.

Let's do it this way. We all know Vick is a fantastic athlete. We also know Schaub is a pedestrian athlete.

SCHAUB HAS TAKEN A 120 LESS SACKS IN THE SAME NUMBER OF GAMES. Let that sink in 120 less sacks - then tell us about Vick's great pocket presence.

That doesn't even sound right. Schaub at 120 less? My mind is blown

 

[thunderkyss]

Doesn't matter how respectfully you disagree but Vick had 13 passing attempts with 6 completions his first year out of prison.

You're looking for 2010 which was his eighth season in the NFL His pocket presence still sucked rocks as he took 34 sacks in 12 games.

Let's do it this way. We all know Vick is a fantastic athlete. We also know Schaub is a pedestrian athlete.

SCHAUB HAS TAKEN A 120 LESS SACKS IN THE SAME NUMBER OF GAMES. Let that sink in 120 less sacks - then tell us about Vick's great pocket presence.

Anyhow...... whenever it was, the season before he got his second $100M deal, people were talking about how much he grew as a QB. I think it was just that they hadn't seen his speed in a little while.

The league compensated & after he inked that deal, the windows got smaller & he didn't look like such a good QB anymore.

I predict the same thing is going to happen when Russell Wilson, & Collin Kaepernick have to throw into smaller windows.

 

[handswarmer]

Respectfully disagree.

Michael Vick looked as good as any of those guys his first year out of prison.

2012, these guys were throwing to wide open receivers because of what their athleticism gains them. As soon as their OCs & HCs try to improve their production from the pocket, we'll see how accurate these guys are.

Again, infantrycak wrote exactly what I was going o write.

 

[handswarmer]

Making the case For Flacco

http://espn.go.com/blog/afcnorth/index/_/count/16

 

[handswarmer]

Agreed, but some people wouldn't see that. Matt Ryan had an amazing run but most have already forgot about it.

Because when it comes to crunch time,Ryan folds like a lawn chair. He has all the regular season stats with 2 Pro-Bowl WR's and a potential GOAT at TE, yet can't seem to win a playoff game worth a crap....Same with Stafford, Schaub,

Flacco wins

 

[thunderkyss]

Because when it comes to crunch time,Ryan folds like a lawn chair. He has all the regular season stats with 2 Pro-Bowl WR's and a potential GOAT at TE, yet can't seem to win a playoff game worth a crap....Same with Stafford, Schaub,

Flacco wins

Until this season. He hung in there & played tough in the divisional round. He had a good game in the NFC Championship game as well. The team just fell short.

It's funny how some people say, "can't win in the big game" For some, that big game is any game with play off implications, until said QB wins that game. It becomes meaningless & the next game is a big game. The Falcons fail to win a play off game & he can't win in a big game.

He comes back, his team wins the #1 seed in the NFC, still hasn't won a big game. They win their divisional play off game (First Falcon post season victory in a long time), but lose in the Championship game.... still can't win the big game.

eh...

 

[handswarmer]

Until this season. He hung in there & played tough in the divisional round. He had a good game in the NFC Championship game as well. The team just fell short.

It's funny how some people say, "can't win in the big game" For some, that big game is any game with play off implications, until said QB wins that game. It becomes meaningless & the next game is a big game. The Falcons fail to win a play off game & he can't win in a big game.

He comes back, his team wins the #1 seed in the NFC, still hasn't won a big game. They win their divisional play off game (First Falcon post season victory in a long time), but lose in the Championship game.... still can't win the big game.

eh...

Ryan had 2 turnovers in the 3rd qtr and couln't get his team in the ed zone at the end of the game- even with Tony Gonzales, Roddy White and Julio Jones to throw to....

He choked it up....
Number 1 overall pick in 08