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Sentiment Check: Which QB Are You Selecting With The #1.2 Overall Pick (March 8, 2023)

If You Were GM, Which QB Are You Selecting With The #1.2 Overall Pick

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Corrosion said:
I'm not taking any of those QB's at 1-2 or 1-12.

Give me Will Anderson or Jalen Carter at 2.

At 12 I'm open to a list of players at any number of positions (WR,OT,Edge,TE).



I'll take Hooker in the 2nd round and let him sit a year behind Mills or Garoppolo if they manage to ink him to a deal.

I don't believe in any of these 1st round QB's.
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I am leaning this way as well. Give me Hooker and lets see if he can overtake Jimmy G. Give Jimmy a two year deal since Caserio has been saying they see the team in two year windows. If Hooker can heal up and learn the system enough to overtake Jimmy G within two seasons great. If he can’t then either Jimmy G is playing well enough to stay QB on a successful team or the Texans need to find another QB.

Either way the Texans stockpile talent at positions with less questions with their firsts this season. And maybe even get an opportunity to trade down and acquire more premium picks next season.

I’d even trade up to the back 5 picks or so in the first to secure Hooker and a fifth year option.
 
Since the post says which QB would you take at 1.2 then the option to trade back probably shouldn't be there. Without the trade option, the QB I'd take at 1.2 is CJ Stroud because I see him as the cleanest prospect. His game tape shows he can make all the throws and his ball placement is unmatched by any of the guys in the poll. He is not a statue and has always been able to navigate a pocket, which I like more than scrambling around off script (yes he can do that if needed). Plus, all QBs will struggle at times with pressure so I'm not too worried about that. My expectation is as they grow they recognize those types of things along with the coaches doing other things to offset pressure.
 
I voted CJ Stroud but I am also concerned about his agent and influencers. My preference is to trade back and sign Jimmy G., draft Clayton Tune or O'Connell in the 4th to sit and learn a couple of years with Mills as the back-up. I just don't think Young is going to be able to remain healthy.
 
Toro Bravo said:
I voted CJ Stroud but I am also concerned about his agent and influencers. My preference is to trade back and sign Jimmy G., draft Clayton Tune or O'Connell in the 4th to sit and learn a couple of years with Mills as the back-up. I just don't think Young is going to be able to remain healthy.
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Agree with Tune, but won't Max Duggan be better than O' Connell?
 
I think Max Duggan could potentially make a fine WCO offense QB with some coaching and seasoning. Certainly not a guarantee. But If you're going to take a guy late, he's my leading candidate. He's got a Brock Purdy vibe to me and the WCO if QB friendly. There are some others in there as well, like Stetson Bennett, Tune, O'Connell, et al.

I'd only do that if we sign Jimmy. Even then, I'd probably go with Richardon, Levis, or Hooker. Hooker might be the safest of this group of 3, but probably the lowest ceiling.

I'm pretty much down with whatever Demeco and the guys decide to be perfectly honest with one exception. Definitely big no on Lamar and I don't think it's feasible anyway.

But If they take CJ or Bryce, I'm happy.

If they sign Jimmy and still take a QB high, I'm happy. If they sign Jimmy, and take a guy late like Max, that's fine too. We can get into the QB game again in 24 if Max doesn't show to be the guy.

Hell, I'm also ok if they get a JAG like Mike White or Minchew and then still grab a guy in the draft.

I'm still on my honeymoon with Meco, so I'm good with any of that. We'll send a postcard from Hawaii.
 
Doing mocks, trading down, acquiring some extra two's and taking Hooker mid second seems like a better team building strategy, and signing JimmyG or Cooper or such. Edge and TE are deep, got to grab the good IOL in 2nd though, pretty good falloff. Strength does seem to be in lower 1 and second round to get good value, so I will take a Hooker and extra 2nd's. In terms of the guys in the list, Young seems to have the best ceiling, but worried as hell on 1.2 lasting.
 
If I had to pick one out of the four listed, I'd go with Bryce Young. I'd be as concerned about his durability and height as everyone else but of the four I feel like the intangibles are there for him to be a better than average quarterback in the NFL. Which really isn't saying much for any of them.

Oddly, the one I fear the most if he were to go to an AFC South opponent is the one I think has the least amount of accuracy and that's Anthony Richardson. If someone were to nab him and turn him into a decent thrower he could be better quarterback than Cam Newton ever was. He has elite athletic ability for any position.
 
I want Levis but not at 2. I'm all for signing Garoppolo and picking the best possible pass rusher at 1.2, then trying to maneuver into a slightly higher spot than 1.12 to get Levis if need be. Hell he might be there at 1.12.

That's my plan and I'm sticking to it.
 
Levis wasn't good at the combine. I was already "meh" on him, and even more meh today. I wouldn't take Levis until 33, but that's just me. I feel bust for him, but there is a chance he puts it together. Worth a shot at 33 if he falls. But if Hooker is also there, I like Hooker better even with the ACL.
 
I'm looking at the scheme for the QB. In this scheme first and foremost is processing. Where to go with the ball. If you have great skill players you don't need a GREAT QB. You need one who can process like crazy and make the throws. I don't want any of the 4 at 1.2. I don't want Hooker. He was in a gimmick offense where he made one read. Jimmy G is no athletic wonder, but if he had stayed healthy the 49ers probably would have been in the Super Bowl. Mr. Irrelevant Rookie almost got them there because he can process quickly. 1.2 best defensive player. Then WR, TE, RB, C , more D. Sign Jimmy G, pray he doesn't get hurt. Mills was actually pretty good the end of his 1st season. Pep ruined him. Maybe he can be another Jimmy G without the injuries. Build the team first. If it doesn't work this year then at least your skill positions are built and trade up for a QB next year.
 
Xopher said:
I'm looking at the scheme for the QB. In this scheme first and foremost is processing. Where to go with the ball. If you have great skill players you don't need a GREAT QB. You need one who can process like crazy and make the throws. I don't want any of the 4 at 1.2.
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Not sure I understand. Young is elite in these intangibles and are the reason he is rated #1. It is certainly reasonable to have doubts about Young because of his size and frame; and to have concern about his shoulder injury. But not for his football IQ and processing.
 
The1ApplePie said:
He and Richardson have the same flaws, but Richardson is the freak of nature.

I voted Richardson, just because I think Young goes at No. 1. Would be happy with Young, Stroud, or Richardson.
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I would still take AR #1 also, because I saw his throwing mechanics in depth at the combine. Obviously some risk, but he's like this generation's version of Bo Jackson for the QB class, talent wise. I just wouldn't pass up on that. Indy should take him with Steichen now HC.
 
Xopher said:
I'm looking at the scheme for the QB. In this scheme first and foremost is processing. Where to go with the ball. If you have great skill players you don't need a GREAT QB. You need one who can process like crazy and make the throws. I don't want any of the 4 at 1.2. I don't want Hooker. He was in a gimmick offense where he made one read. Jimmy G is no athletic wonder, but if he had stayed healthy the 49ers probably would have been in the Super Bowl. Mr. Irrelevant Rookie almost got them there because he can process quickly. 1.2 best defensive player. Then WR, TE, RB, C , more D. Sign Jimmy G, pray he doesn't get hurt. Mills was actually pretty good the end of his 1st season. Pep ruined him. Maybe he can be another Jimmy G without the injuries. Build the team first. If it doesn't work this year then at least your skill positions are built and trade up for a QB next year.
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That is all well and good, but this is probably (or hopefully) the last chance to land an elite QB prospect. Unless you think the Texans or Browns are going to suck next year. You only get a good QB by drafting one. Williams from USC is awesome, but he's going No. 1.

Caserio is done if the team sucks again. DeMeco is walking into a team that has fired two new coaches in a row. Neither are hitching their wagons to Jimmy G, even if he can stay healthy. It is going to be QB at No. 2, just a question of who.
 
ben.aires.smith said:
I would still take AR #1 also, because I saw his throwing mechanics in depth at the combine. Obviously some risk, but he's like this generation's version of Bo Jackson for the QB class, talent wise. I just wouldn't pass up on that. Indy should take him with Steichen now HC.
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I have a soft spot for dual threat QBs, so I'd like Richardson just fine.

Young would be best, but he ain't making it to two. Wouldn't mind Stroud either, really polished player.

If Richardson never becomes an elite passer, but is a Jalen Hurts or Lamar Jackson type, he is still worth No. 2 overall.
 
The1ApplePie said:
I have a soft spot for dual threat QBs, so I'd like Richardson just fine.

Young would be best, but he ain't making it to two. Wouldn't mind Stroud either, really polished player.

If Richardson never becomes an elite passer, but is a Jalen Hurts or Lamar Jackson type, he is still worth No. 2 overall.
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Not a given Young goes #1. We shall see. But if he doesn't, I think it will be Richardson not Stroud that does. Richardson is the guy some team could fall in love with, despite the lack of experience, while Stroud doesn't have elite upside potential worth moving up for. JIMO.
 
Porky said:
Levis wasn't good at the combine. I was already "meh" on him, and even more meh today. I wouldn't take Levis until 33, but that's just me. I feel bust for him, but there is a chance he puts it together. Worth a shot at 33 if he falls. But if Hooker is also there, I like Hooker better even with the ACL.
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Yeah, he had sketchy accuracy at the combine and that was very concerning. Lower ranked prospects like Stetson and Bagent showed much better accuracy.
 
The1ApplePie said:
That is all well and good, but this is probably (or hopefully) the last chance to land an elite QB prospect. Unless you think the Texans or Browns are going to suck next year. You only get a good QB by drafting one. Williams from USC is awesome, but he's going No. 1.

Caserio is done if the team sucks again. DeMeco is walking into a team that has fired two new coaches in a row. Neither are hitching their wagons to Jimmy G, even if he can stay healthy. It is going to be QB at No. 2, just a question of who.
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The top 4 next year are better than any of the top 4 this year. Williams, Maye, Penix, Ewers. This year is an extremely poor QB draft . Young is just the best of a bad QB draft. There is enough draft capital next year to move up. It also depends on who needs a QB next year. If the Colts, Raiders, and Carolina draft one this year, who needs one next year? Maybe Chicago?
 
Xopher said:
The top 4 next year are better than any of the top 4 this year. Williams, Maye, Penix, Ewers. This year is an extremely poor QB draft . Young is just the best of a bad QB draft. There is enough draft capital next year to move up. It also depends on who needs a QB next year. If the Colts, Raiders, and Carolina draft one this year, who needs one next year? Maybe Chicago?
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In theory, I agree with this. Mostly I just don't want them taking Young or Stroud. However, trading up next year isn't as easy as it sounds. If both Houston and Cleveland have somewhat decent to good seasons, then both those number 1 picks next year don't add up as much as our two picks this year do. In all probability you have to turn two round one picks into one round one pick, and probably add in something else if a bidding war ensues.
 
Xopher said:
The top 4 next year are better than any of the top 4 this year. Williams, Maye, Penix, Ewers. This year is an extremely poor QB draft . Young is just the best of a bad QB draft. There is enough draft capital next year to move up. It also depends on who needs a QB next year. If the Colts, Raiders, and Carolina draft one this year, who needs one next year? Maybe Chicago?
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Isn't that the case every year?
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Thorn said:
In theory, I agree with this. Mostly I just don't want them taking Young or Stroud. However, trading up next year isn't as easy as it sounds. If both Houston and Cleveland have somewhat decent to good seasons, then both those number 1 picks next year don't add up as much as our two picks this year do. In all probability you have to turn two round one picks into one round one pick, and probably add in something else if a bidding war ensues.
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I can understand that. If Young were to have been in next year's draft he would probably be the 3rd QB taken. Stroud the 5th, or flip them. Neither one would be the 1st or 2nd. So it isn't like you have to target 1 QB in next year's draft. You can target 2 or 3 and get better than Young and Stroud
 
Rich Schmidt said:
Doing mocks, trading down, acquiring some extra two's and taking Hooker mid second seems like a better team building strategy, and signing JimmyG or Cooper or such. Edge and TE are deep, got to grab the good IOL in 2nd though, pretty good falloff. Strength does seem to be in lower 1 and second round to get good value, so I will take a Hooker and extra 2nd's. In terms of the guys in the list, Young seems to have the best ceiling, but worried as hell on 1.2 lasting.
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That's what I'm hoping for but I expect the Texans to stand pat with the 1.2 position and drafting one of three players...Young, Jalen Carter or
Lucky said:
What happened to the Will Levis fan club? Dude is lonely up there.
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He threw at the combine. I watched all of the QB's throwing and the TE's. Levis didn't look good. I was expecting a "rocket" arm but it didn't look any more powerful than AR's.
 
Xopher said:
I can understand that. If Young were to have been in next year's draft he would probably be the 3rd QB taken. Stroud the 5th, or flip them. Neither one would be the 1st or 2nd. So it isn't like you have to target 1 QB in next year's draft. You can target 2 or 3 and get better than Young and Stroud
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And that therein is the argument. Take a potentially elite pass rusher or a pretty good quarterback. But...the Texans might be good enough in 2023 to not be able to get one of those top quarterbacks in '24. Would you rather have a bird in the hand or two in the bush?
 
banned1976 said:
And that therein is the argument. Take a potentially elite pass rusher or a pretty good quarterback. But...the Texans might be good enough in 2023 to not be able to get one of those top quarterbacks in '24. Would you rather have a bird in the hand or two in the bush?
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You take an elite pass rusher. With 2 1st round picks next year you can get one of the top three QBs next year which are better than the top 2 this year. You may have to add a 3rd rounder, but you will get one of the top 3. The Browns and Texans will have mid 1st round picks at best. You're telling me you can't trade up to 3 with 12 and 16 and a 3rd rounder?
 
Xopher said:
You take an elite pass rusher. With 2 1st round picks next year you can get one of the top three QBs next year which are better than the top 2 this year. You may have to add a 3rd rounder, but you will get one of the top 3. The Browns and Texans will have mid 1st round picks at best. You're telling me you can't trade up to 3 with 12 and 16 and a 3rd rounder?
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Tend to agree. Let the other QB hungry teams have the QBs in this one and that should reduce the competition for one next year for the Texans.
 
Xopher said:
You take an elite pass rusher. With 2 1st round picks next year you can get one of the top three QBs next year which are better than the top 2 this year. You may have to add a 3rd rounder, but you will get one of the top 3. The Browns and Texans will have mid 1st round picks at best. You're telling me you can't trade up to 3 with 12 and 16 and a 3rd rounder?
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No, I'm not telling you that. I'm simply looking at both sides of the coin.

I doubt the Texans will have three or four teams drafting ahead of them next year that need a quarterback. But it is possible, just like something happens to one or more of the quarterbacks that make them less desirable than they are right now.
 
Xopher said:
... You're telling me you can't trade up to 3 with 12 and 16 and a 3rd rounder?
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Maybe not. You're just about breaking even on the value chart, but the chart goes into the trash on the high picks. Maybe 4 or 5 is closer to what is realistic.
 
Here is the other part of this. You draft an elite pass rusher. You draft a WR, TE, RB. Skill positions are fixed. Draft a C or sign a Free Agent. Let Lovie do what he needs to fix the D. The skill positions are much improved. If Slowik says "Hey I can fix this Mills kid myself or I really think a bridge QB can help me fix him" Great. Sign a bridge QB. The offensive players learn the scheme this year. So either Mills balls out and QB situation solved (Probably not the case) Will the Texans improve this year? Yes. Will they improve so much that the 2 1st rounders next year will prohibit them from getting a QB better than the top 2 this year? Nope.

I am sick of hearing "The Texans need a QB. Let's go draft the best of this pile of junk!"
 
Thorn said:
In theory, I agree with this. Mostly I just don't want them taking Young or Stroud. However, trading up next year isn't as easy as it sounds. If both Houston and Cleveland have somewhat decent to good seasons, then both those number 1 picks next year don't add up as much as our two picks this year do. In all probability you have to turn two round one picks into one round one pick, and probably add in something else if a bidding war ensues.
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I can't foresee any team with the first pick in 2024 trading off of Caleb Williams. #2 might be equally as stingy about Drake Maye. If you're not 1 or 2 you are out of luck. In other words, IMO, if Caleb Williams was in this draft, Chicago would not be trading the #1 pick. They would be trading Justin Fields instead.
 
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Number19 said:
Maybe not. You're just about breaking even on the value chart, but the chart goes into the trash on the high picks. Maybe 4 or 5 is closer to what is realistic.
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I agree, but I was looking at the worst case scenario when the top 3 drafting teams all want a QB so I said move to 3. More than likely they wouldn't need to move that high.
 
Texian said:
I can't foresee any team with the first pick trading off of Caleb Williams. #2 might be equally as stingy about Drake Maye. If you're not 1 or 2 you are out of luck.
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Okay then you have Penix, Ewers and Maybe KJ Jefferson who all might be better than Young and Stroud. Also, someone always rises. Was anyone looking at Richardson at the beginning of the season? This is one of the worst QB drafts in recent memory and people just want to take the best of the junk
 
Xopher said:
The top 4 next year are better than any of the top 4 this year. Williams, Maye, Penix, Ewers. This year is an extremely poor QB draft . Young is just the best of a bad QB draft. There is enough draft capital next year to move up. It also depends on who needs a QB next year. If the Colts, Raiders, and Carolina draft one this year, who needs one next year? Maybe Chicago?
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This class was super hyped until a month or two ago. The hot thing can change on a whim.
 
Xopher said:
Okay then you have Penix, Ewers and Maybe KJ Jefferson who all might be better than Young and Stroud. Also, someone always rises. Was anyone looking at Richardson at the beginning of the season? This is one of the worst QB drafts in recent memory and people just want to take the best of the junk
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How do you figure? No way Penix, Evers or Jefferson are even in the same ballpark.
 
beerlover said:
How do you figure? No way Penix, Evers or Jefferson are even in the same ballpark.
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From the way I understand it, it's Williams, Maye and everyone else. From what little I've seen of Williams, he looks like the real deal. Legitimately has a game that resembles Patrick Mahomes.It will be fun tracking him next year. He's Bryce Young with better size and arm.

 
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ben.aires.smith said:
From the way I understand it, it's Williams, Maye and everyone else. From what little I've seen of Williams, he looks like the real deal. Legitimately has a game that resembles Patrick Mahomes.It will be fun tracking him next year. He's Bryce Young with better size and arm.

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DraftBuzz says he's slight of frame and NFL physicality will be an issue.

So, since he's supposedly 6'1", a slight frame is not an issue as it is with Young?
 
Lucky said:
Hey, we have a whole year to hate on Williams. Let's stick to the guys in this draft.
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Except so many are saying we should not draft a qb this year but should wait for next year; or are already saying next years qb class is far superior to any qb in this years class. So I just had to see what the Williams talk was.all about.
 
Number19 said:
DraftBuzz says he's slight of frame and NFL physicality will be an issue.

So, since he's supposedly 6'1", a slight frame is not an issue as it is with Young?
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He's not as slight as Young (take a look at the video). He's listed at 6'1, 215lbs (both look legit) and he's not afraid of contact running the ball, which is another big advantage over Young (better, more willing runner). Williams 2022 playing weight was 20-25 lbs heavier... and throws he makes flushed out of the pocket on the run and out-of-structure are incredible. Young can't make a good proportion of those types of throws. He has a better arm.
 
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