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[Pick 67] Davis Mills QB Stanford

Earl34

All Pro
Perhaps you should ask Cully. How do you expect me to know what is in his mind? And, I don't particularly like their game planning strategy. Mills has shown he is at his best in an uptempo game and I think they should have been doing this from the start of the game.
I agree with your up tempo comment. Well, you mentioned it "might not be a bad coaching decision". So, I'm asking you what was gained that would lead you to believe it might not be a bad coaching decision.
 

Number19

Hall of Fame
I agree with your up tempo comment. Well, you mentioned it "might not be a bad coaching decision". So, I'm asking you what was gained that would lead you to believe it might not be a bad coaching decision.
If you forget about the losses, even with the down tempo game planning, Mills is posting some encouraging stats:

Mills ranks 14th in completion percentage at 67%; and contrary to the popular perception of him mostly dinking and dunking, Mills is tied for 17th in CAY (average air yards per completion) at 5.6 yds. He's tied for 24th in TD percentage at 3.3%.
https://www.profootballnetwork.com/qb-power-rankings-2021/

This is certainly something to build on going into next off season.
 

thunderkyss

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I agree with your up tempo comment. Well, you mentioned it "might not be a bad coaching decision". So, I'm asking you what was gained that would lead you to believe it might not be a bad coaching decision.
Maybe reinforces the idea that talent alone won’t get you far in the NFL. He needs to learn defenses on a whole other level, he needs to learn to manipulate the defense with his eyes, he needs to work on his play fake.
 

76Texan

Hall of Fame
If you forget about the losses, even with the down tempo game planning, Mills is posting some encouraging stats:

Mills ranks 14th in completion percentage at 67%; and contrary to the popular perception of him mostly dinking and dunking, Mills is tied for 17th in CAY (average air yards per completion) at 5.6 yds. He's tied for 24th in TD percentage at 3.3%.
https://www.profootballnetwork.com/qb-power-rankings-2021/

This is certainly something to build on going into next off season.
What you really want to talk about is Air Yard per Attempt (AYA) where Mills ties for 30th.

Mills completed a fair number of meaningless passes against prevent defenses, especially after the Texans had trailed by a ton or two.
 

76Texan

Hall of Fame
If you forget about the losses, even with the down tempo game planning, Mills is posting some encouraging stats:

Mills ranks 14th in completion percentage at 67%; and contrary to the popular perception of him mostly dinking and dunking, Mills is tied for 17th in CAY (average air yards per completion) at 5.6 yds. He's tied for 24th in TD percentage at 3.3%.
https://www.profootballnetwork.com/qb-power-rankings-2021/

This is certainly something to build on going into next off season.
While you're so proud of Mills' CAY, did you have time to note that he was ranked dead last in that same article?
 

Number19

Hall of Fame
While you're so proud of Mills' CAY, did you have time to note that he was ranked dead last in that same article?
Yes. In the other thread (Week 9 @ the Fish #52) where I originally posted this link, I mentioned this. I also mentioned that this ranking also emphasizes qb rushing yards and qb rushing td's.

Did you notice that #30 Justin Fields had worse numbers for YPG, TD%, INT%, and Completion%; yet is ranked higher? The difference is rush yards and rush TDs.

My post was not commenting on Mills ranking. I was answering Earl34's question what I found encouraging in Mills' performance that could be carried into next year.

I stand by Mills' passing statistics. I also stand by my evaluation that Mills has a lot to improve on but his performance is not "stinky" or "horrid".
 

TheRealJoker

Hall of Fame
Mills has been through the worst situation of any rookie QB starting games this season. He’s dealt with easily the toughest schedule of defenses. He’s had a patchwork OL due to injuries and they weren’t really pulling their weight when healthy anyway. He’s had no support from the running game. The playcalling hasn’t helped him do much more than he has done. And he has also had key receiving targets miss time (Nico/Danny).

That being said, he hasn’t proven one way or the other he deserves to be the starter or that he deserves more time to ride out any growing pains. The best thing for him long term is to let Tyrod take over so he can absorb what he has learned from the bench before he is put back on the field again, hopefully against an easier slate of opponents if this season.
 

OptimisticTexan

2021 Building Block 1 / Go Texans
Maybe reinforces the idea that talent alone won’t get you far in the NFL. He needs to learn defenses on a whole other level, he needs to learn to manipulate the defense with his eyes, he needs to work on his play fake.
First thing he needs to learn standing behind his OL bookended by TE’s who have no idea how to block, and RB’s who couldn’t find the hole even if the barn doors were swung wide open…..is survival!!!

It’s like watching the QB’s in Fast Times At Ridgemont High and Waterboy.

If there was one very solid thing I would’ve had him work on…..perfecting the art of the “Hard Count”. Defenses were/are so eager to blitz this offense that a well delivered “Hard Count” could tally up some easy yards in penalties.
 

Lucky

Trust Me. I Know What I'm Doing.
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That being said, he hasn’t proven one way or the other he deserves to be the starter or that he deserves more time to ride out any growing pains. The best thing for him long term is to let Tyrod take over so he can absorb what he has learned from the bench before he is put back on the field again, hopefully against an easier slate of opponents if this season.
Mills has struggled, along with the rest of the team. I just think pulling him now, going against the 31st ranked defense, and giving the reins back to Taylor is both unfair and punitive. Mills deserves a shot against the Fins. Let's find out if Mills can step up vs a mediocre defense.
 

Thorn

Dirty Old Man
Mills has struggled, along with the rest of the team. I just think pulling him now, going against the 31st ranked defense, and giving the reins back to Taylor is both unfair and punitive. Mills deserves a shot against the Fins. Let's find out if Mills can step up vs a mediocre defense.
Taylor does not have a future in the NFL except as a backup and/or emergency QB, Mills might be able to do more. Given the current state of things, I'd just as soon let Mills keep starting and learning.
 

thunderkyss

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First thing he needs to learn standing behind his OL bookended by TE’s who have no idea how to block, and RB’s who couldn’t find the hole even if the barn doors were swung wide open…..is survival!!!
I'd like to see how the OL performs against a good defense with Tyrod at QB. The QB still makes the primary protection calls. It's very well he is telling the OL something they know isn't right but they have to make the best of the situation. I'm not saying that is the case, but... time will tell.

If there was one very solid thing I would’ve had him work on…..perfecting the art of the “Hard Count”. Defenses were/are so eager to blitz this offense that a well delivered “Hard Count” could tally up some easy yards in penalties.
Completely agree.
 

thunderkyss

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Taylor does not have a future in the NFL except as a backup and/or emergency QB, Mills might be able to do more. Given the current state of things, I'd just as soon let Mills keep starting and learning.
I agree this game should be competitive, even with Mills. But I think Mills will benefit most by taking the bench for a few games.
 

steelbtexan

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Mills has been through the worst situation of any rookie QB starting games this season. He’s dealt with easily the toughest schedule of defenses. He’s had a patchwork OL due to injuries and they weren’t really pulling their weight when healthy anyway. He’s had no support from the running game. The playcalling hasn’t helped him do much more than he has done. And he has also had key receiving targets miss time (Nico/Danny).

That being said, he hasn’t proven one way or the other he deserves to be the starter or that he deserves more time to ride out any growing pains. The best thing for him long term is to let Tyrod take over so he can absorb what he has learned from the bench before he is put back on the field again, hopefully against an easier slate of opponents if this season.
I'm thinking now that he's played the tough defenses, let's see how he does against lesser defenses.
 

banned1976

sleeper mode
Quite honestly, whereas several weeks ago (when Taylor went down) I thought the quarterback situation was the worst of the Texans problems, I now find it to be one of the least of the Texans' problems moving forward. Which, btw, doesn't mean I think the Texans, with Mills, is set for the future - far from it. I just believe the Texans have deep rooted, systemic issues within the structural hierarchy of the organization. As Mercilus stated, it starts from the "50,000 foot level" and goes all the way down to the support staff.

Forget Mills. He's a minor player in all this. All benching him does now is help people forget about the major issues, especially when/if the Texans start beating up on other crappy teams in the league. I'd rather that not happen. I feel like the only real hope the fans have at this point is that the McNair's become so embarrassed that it compels them to start to confront the bigger problems facing this organization. Instead of some farcical shame of a due diligence exercise; actually conduct one for real.
 

steelbtexan

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Chance to prove they're worth another contract.
You know, the guys you thought Caserio was good for bringing in?
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Where did you get this from.

I predicted a 4 win team. I didn't think there would be much of anything good that was going to come from the on the field product. I was hoping that some of the vet FA's would have some trade value at the deadline and we all know that didn't happen.

I was also hoping they could find 2-3 guys out of the FA signing group and 2-3 guys out of the draft that could be part of the future. Mission accomplished.
 

76Texan

Hall of Fame
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Where did you get this from.

I predicted a 4 win team. I didn't think there would be much of anything good that was going to come from the on the field product. I was hoping that some of the vet FA's would have some trade value at the deadline and we all know that didn't happen.

I was also hoping they could find 2-3 guys out of the FA signing group and 2-3 guys out of the draft that could be part of the future. Mission accomplished.
Did you predict a 4-win team with Mills as the starting QB?
Honest question.
 


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