Penn State Child Molestation Case

[Joe Texan]

The fact that these children were quite young, and Boys to boot, and the time line was long, Every last MF that saw or knew about this with out going to the police should rot in Jail, If I was that bonehead student that saw it first I would have beat the daylights out of the stupid pervert and asked the cops to get that carcas of the campus.

 

[pbat488]

sooo..

an older woman that chases a younger man is called a cougar, right?

does that mean an older man that chases a younger man is called a nittany lion?











i'm going to hell

edit: hopefully I can kick the **** outta jerry sandusky while i'm there though

 

[The1ApplePie]

My point is this that it's asinine to legally punish Paterno when he fulfilled his legal responsibility.

legally you are right

Morally? Different story

 

[PsychoLove]

You may take as many personal shots at me as you like. What he did was the right thing according to the law because that was where his legal responsibility ends. Legally he did what he had to do. Unless the law doesn't matter then there shouldn't be one.

Paterno should have known that if the accused were still working there, a cover up was happening and contacted authorities. Tell me how many more got "victimized" because of his silence?

 

[Honoring Earl 34]

The thing that really disturbs me is Sandusky himself . I have a friend in law enforcement who told me that the reason they post sex and age on the sex offender site is that's the offender's flavor . Sandusky knew how to scheme because he was a DC . This dude schemed this whole foundation up to bring the chicks to the chicken hawk . I can't help but think about the FBI profiling Jack The Ripper saying he couldn't have done it by himself that he needed an accompllice , a little man . The guy started that foundation in 1977 and was comfortable enough to be in the PSU shower with a boy . He should never be allowed in public again , he is a danger to society .

 

[toronto]

legally you are right

Morally? Different story

Co-signed. You've got someone raping, molesting little boys and you've become aware. To say that telling the AD is 'sufficient' makes my skin crawl.

If, and that is an important word, IF these allegations (and the line is so damn long I don't know how this will ever be proven to be false) are true, there are a lot of PSU folks that need to go behind bars, and if I am a PSU fan, I turn in that ****ing white pom pom and boycott games until Paterno and the entire staff, administration, hell the mascot too are all replaced.

Unless of course they're complete and total idiots that still believe despite a damning pile of evidence that Paterno is still a decent man. I'll choose to believe the Attorney General and others that suggest otherwise.

This makes the SMU scandal look like petty theft. This is as bad as it gets. I can't imagine what ex-PSU LBs like Shane Conlan are thinking right now.

 

[Double Barrel]

Everybody needs to die... including the grad student and his father. Eff them all. You could not pay me enough money to turn a blind eye to a ten year old getting anally raped. Douse them all with gasoline and let them burn. Sick mother****ers.

This X 10000000∞

**** his legacy.

His new legacy? I swept rape and molesting kids under the rug and am going straight to hell.

QFT.

Personal shame is more damaging than what any of these members could hope for.

What a bunch of horse ****. If the guy had a conscience that would bother him for the rest of his life, he would have had a conscience to report this abuse to the police.

NBA lockout can't end soon enough...

The bosses who just sat back did protect the brand. Blame them they SAT BACK. Not everyone goes to the cops nor is it required.

You are morally obligated to protect children, man. If you cannot comprehend this basic premise, then you still have a lot to learn. No offense intended in any sort of way.

 

[Hookem Horns]

I can't imagine what ex-PSU LBs like Shane Conlan are thinking right now.

Did you see Matt Millen (former PSU LB) on his ESPN sports show this morning? The dude was so pissed and upset that he bust out into tears on the air. He said his inner feeling is go to take care of this himself, which I took as him wanting to kill his former position coach and friend.

Here is the video of that ..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3ix4jlXNDd8

 

[Arsenal]

What a bunch of horse ****. If the guy had a conscience that would bother him for the rest of his life, he would have had a conscience to report this abuse to the police.

NBA lockout can't end soon enough...

You're full of it. He doesn't care what you think. He doesn't even know you exist. I'm sure he has enough conscience to feel remorse for what this entire ordeal has brought. I'm sure in hindsight, he would've notified the authorities. However, you can get hung up on morality. I'm about legality. You are correct the NBA lockout can't end soon enough but the season totally being scrapped is far more likely than games actually being played at this point.

 

[Double Barrel]

You're full of it. He doesn't care what you think. He doesn't even know you exist. I'm sure he has enough conscience to feel remorse for what this entire ordeal has brought. I'm sure in hindsight, he would've notified the authorities. However, you can get hung up on morality. I'm about legality. You are correct the NBA lockout can't end soon enough but the season totally being scrapped is far more likely than games actually being played at this point.

I never insinuated that he cares what I think, troll.

You're not about "legality". Stupidity, perhaps...

 

[Dan B.]

No we will burn him at the stake. I think many posters here are parents and therefore are thinking about this like it involves their children. I am not burdened by the role of being a parent. If Joe did fulfill his responsibility by notifying his superior then I don't understand the irrational urge to legally punish him if he did fulfill his legal responsibility. I'm not saying he shouldn't have called the police or should but in this situation. Going above his responsibility of calling the police is a personal choice. A choice he has to live with. Personal shame is more damaging than what any of these members could hope for.

says a lot about you that you think this way. I'd watch out for kids outside of my own...hell, the kid I take care of isn't my kid. It's another Man's kid. If I saw a rape, murder, child porn or any harmful act to another human being I'd do my part as a human being and do the right thing. Contacting your boss and then nothing happening after the fact isn't the right friggin' thing. That's low character stuff.

No kidding.

I don't have children, but I imagine being that kid. Try it.

Forced to submit to anal rape, you turn around and see another coach watching you. That coach... turns and walks away (to call his dad and go home). He saw you getting raped and then left you alone with the rapist. I have no idea how McQueary slept that night -- or any night since. How he couldn't even call 911 is beyond me.

 

[The1ApplePie]

You're full of it. He doesn't care what you think. He doesn't even know you exist. I'm sure he has enough conscience to feel remorse for what this entire ordeal has brought. I'm sure in hindsight, he would've notified the authorities. However, you can get hung up on morality. I'm about legality. You are correct the NBA lockout can't end soon enough but the season totally being scrapped is far more likely than games actually being played at this point.

I'm pretty sure even NAMBLA calls this morally irreprehensible

 

[Arsenal]

I never insinuated that he cares what I think, troll.

You're not about "legality". Stupidity, perhaps...

You're acting like a child just because I'm not joining the lynch mob. Take a look in the mirror before you claim I'm about stupidity. Just because you don't want to see that I'm about legality doesn't mean you have the right to tell me what I'm about.

 

[toronto]

Did you see Matt Millen (former PSU LB) on his ESPN sports show this morning? The dude was so pissed and upset that he bust out into tears on the air. He said his inner feeling is go to take care of this himself, which I took as him wanting to kill his former position coach and friend.

Here is the video of that ..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3ix4jlXNDd8

I'm glad he broke down - maybe if more famous alumni start feeling that sick to their stomach they'll all team up and get that 84 year old schmuck disguised as a good man the hell out of there and start the painful process of bleaching every last square inch of that place, anywhere where Sandusky stepped or sat.

For the man to know this **** went down, then go about the only damn thing he cared about, which was becoming the winningest coach ever, tarnishes every last accomplishment he made, even the school's admirable graduation rate.

 

[gwallaia]

I wonder how many former Penn State players knew what was happening and never said anything?

 

[toronto]

You're acting like a child just because I'm not joining the lynch mob. Take a look in the mirror before you claim I'm about stupidity. Just because you don't want to see that I'm about legality doesn't mean you have the right to tell me what I'm about.

Are you an uncle? Cousin? What if this had happened to a buddy of yours that had a kid and you personally witnessed it, or was told by a reliable person what had happened. You seriously wouldn't go to the cops? Really?

This is not about joining a lynch mob. Read all 20 pages+ of the attorney general's report, then come back here and try and say that again with a straight face. People are going to jail over this, its simply a matter of how many and for how long.

I'm quite confident that god-loving parents that have waved the PSU pom-pom and drank Paterno's kool-aid their entire lives are in personal turmoil right now - they know damn well they can't support him or the program, not with this on their watches.

 

[toronto]

I wonder how many former Penn State players knew what was happening and never said anything?

I'll bet anything most of them have already been subpoened as the legal vultures begin to circle. Expect class action lawsuits galore once the criminal charges have been laid.

 

[Joe Texan]

SMU paid a player and got the death penalty Pen State should be banned from football for 30 years

 

[Double Barrel]

You're acting like a child just because I'm not joining the lynch mob. Take a look in the mirror before you claim I'm about stupidity. Just because you don't want to see that I'm about legality doesn't mean you have the right to tell me what I'm about.

Can you read? Is that above your basic skill set?

Like toronto mentioned, take the time to read 20 pages+ of the attorney general's report before you start flaming people like a worthless troll.

Bleating "I'm about legality" tells me what you're all about, chump.

 

[Arsenal]

Are you an uncle? Cousin? What if this had happened to a buddy of yours that had a kid and you personally witnessed it, or was told by a reliable person what had happened. You seriously wouldn't go to the cops? Really?

This is not about joining a lynch mob. Read all 20 pages+ of the attorney general's report, then come back here and try and say that again with a straight face. People are going to jail over this, its simply a matter of how many and for how long.

I'm quite confident that god-loving parents that have waved the PSU pom-pom and drank Paterno's kool-aid their entire lives are in personal turmoil right now - they know damn well they can't support him or the program, not with this on their watches.

I agree that the program should get the death penalty by the NCAA and the banned period should be longer than SMU (which was technically 1 year but SMU decided to sit out the next year). I also agree that people will and should go to prison let alone jail.

However, Paterno shouldn't and I'm only speaking about Paterno and always have been. Now, yes I am a cousin of young children but no matter because I'm not one to put myself in another's shoes. Though, I will call the authorities in that situation if I witness such things. However, Paterno fulfilled his legal responsibility and by me calling the police I would have beyond what I was legally supposed to do. People are confusing morals with the law.

 

[toronto]

SMU paid a player and got the death penalty Pen State should be banned from football for 30 years

As I said before, SMU is NOTHING compared to this. USC, Miami, Ohio St., you name the school that has been through NCAA sanctions and they all pale in comparison to what may have happened inside the walls of the Happy Valley football program.

There is a big difference between point shaving, paying players, tattoo issues and frigging child molestation/rape, followed by a MASSIVE cover-up.

The fact that the university then had the balls to tell reporters to NOT ask Paterno questions about this mess and leave it to football only, then realizing that would never happen, cancel it, says a lot about the people there. Even now, with all of this out there, they're still trying to stick their heads in the ground and pray it'll go away. Newsflash to PSU administration. The denial period is now over and you're all ****ed.

 

[toronto]

I agree that the program should get the death penalty by the NCAA and the banned period should be longer than SMU (which was technically 1 year but SMU decided to sit out the next year). I also agree that people will and should go to prison let alone jail.

However, Paterno shouldn't and I'm only speaking about Paterno and always have been. Now, yes I am a cousin of young children but no matter because I'm not one to put myself in another's shoes. Though, I will call the authorities in that situation if I witness such things. However, Paterno fulfilled his legal responsibility and by me calling the police I would have beyond what I was legally supposed to do. People are confusing morals with the law.

You're entitled to your opinion and I'm not going to bash you, there looks like enough here to take care of that. I'll tell you I strongly disagree - Paterno's legal responsibility is one thing, but the man spouting off for decades about his love of god and caring for kids. If that were all true, he goes to the authorities and turns in his friend, realizing how sick that person may have been.

He's lost a lot, if not all of his credibility/legacy, and believe me, that's ALWAYS been all he's ever cared about. The man is frigging 84 years old and still coaching - even Bobby Bowden gave in and moved on, kicking and screaming.

 

[Arsenal]

Can you read? Is that above your basic skill set?

Like toronto mentioned, take the time to read 20 pages+ of the attorney general's report before you start flaming people like a worthless troll.

Bleating "I'm about legality" tells me what you're all about, chump.

Still shouting insults like a 4 year old? I can read but there is a difference between what is and isn't worth reading. I have read a few pages so far. However, it doesn't concern me. What concerns me is figuring where's Paterno's responsibility and I don't need to read the whole report for my answer. I haven't been trolling or flaming instead I was giving a different viewpoint. I guess that's trolling though. Calm down ffs.

 

[Vinny]

I agree that the program should get the death penalty by the NCAA and the banned period should be longer than SMU (which was technically 1 year but SMU decided to sit out the next year). I also agree that people will and should go to prison let alone jail.

However, Paterno shouldn't and I'm only speaking about Paterno and always have been. Now, yes I am a cousin of young children but no matter because I'm not one to put myself in another's shoes. Though, I will call the authorities in that situation if I witness such things. However, Paterno fulfilled his legal responsibility and by me calling the police I would have beyond what I was legally supposed to do. People are confusing morals with the law.

Personally I'm not confusing morals with the law. I'm disappointed and outraged with the morality of the people trusted to protect the children. I don't give a crap about hiding behind technicalities in the law - That's what morally vacant people do....and that's what the outrage is about. Moral vacancy. There is no confusion on my behalf.

 

[Double Barrel]

Still shouting insults like a 4 year old? I can read but there is a difference between what is and isn't worth reading. I have read a few pages so far. However, it doesn't concern me. What concerns me is figuring where's Paterno's responsibility and I don't need to read the whole report for my answer. I haven't been trolling or flaming instead I was giving a different viewpoint. I guess that's trolling though. Calm down ffs.

You're just as sick in the head as Paterno for justifying these non-actions.

You hide behind legality, but that is nothing but a shadow to what is truly important in life.

If that makes me a "4 year old shouting insults" in your tiny little brain, so be it. Your opinion of me is worthless.

You'll be gone soon anyway.

 

[toronto]

Personally I'm not confusing morals with the law. I'm disappointed and outraged with the morality of the people trusted to protect the children. I don't give a crap about hiding behind technicalities in the law - That's what morally vacant people do....and that's what the outrage is about. Moral vacancy. There is no confusion on my behalf.

I can only imagine how a PSU diehard that always loved Paterno, but is a parent and coming to the harsh reality of this, is dying inside. They know, no matter how hard they try to rationalize it, that this is something you can't rationalize or hide from.

I watched every second of Millen and to me, this is a rational reaction of a parent and person that can't live with himself, knowing he used to look up to what may go down as a monster.

Or worse, maybe he walked around in the shower naked around Sandusky, and is coming to grips that the son of a ***** was enjoying that in a way he can't possibly comprehend.

 

[srrono]

see no evil - hear no evil - speak no evil = enablers

 

[TimeKiller]

Legality. Ha. We all break laws moron. Nobody is calling for my head for speeding to get home earlier. Some words on a piece of paper somewhere is what you and Pappy Slappy can hide behind. The MONSTER he tried to hide will ALWAYS be visible.

You hear something? What is it. Oh, it's a guy raping a kid. What on the face of the planet would stop you from a) kicking the **** outta that guy b) calling the police and my goodness c) disassociate with the monster who raped children in YOUR house?

Legally Joe Paterno might be in the clear. Morally he's got a thousand pound weight strapped to his back. Socially, he's ****ed.

 

[GlassHalfFull]

I agree that the program should get the death penalty by the NCAA and the banned period should be longer than SMU (which was technically 1 year but SMU decided to sit out the next year). I also agree that people will and should go to prison let alone jail.

However, Paterno shouldn't and I'm only speaking about Paterno and always have been. Now, yes I am a cousin of young children but no matter because I'm not one to put myself in another's shoes. Though, I will call the authorities in that situation if I witness such things. However, Paterno fulfilled his legal responsibility and by me calling the police I would have beyond what I was legally supposed to do. People are confusing morals with the law.

My turn to nitpick what you are saying. There is also no law against your calling the police. You make it sound like he would have been doing something wrong by taking the next step. He may not be legally culpable, but he still should have made the call.

 

[Honoring Earl 34]

My turn to nitpick what you are saying. There is also no law against your calling the police. You make it sound like he would have been doing something wrong by taking the next step. He may not be legally culpable, but he still should have made the call.

There's a story about it happening in 1998 and the mother of the boy was paid off and the DA on the case has never been found .

 

[HTown2ATX]

You'll be gone soon anyway. e:

LOL....best use of a smiley.


Arsenal, by the law, yes, he did what he had to do, the bare minimum. It is not illegal for him to call someone or follow up with the situation after he reported it. More should have been done.

Even though you admittedly don't have nor necessarily like kids as you have posted before, which is fine, you still sound ludicrous for acting as though he fulfilled his obligations in full as a human, law and morality aside. These were kids man, kids. You make sure someone pays for that.

Admitting that and joining a lynch mob are 2 different things. And obviously people who are parents like me, DB, Vinny, GHF, Nitro, Srrono, etc., are going to be more sensitive to the issue but we are still making logical arguments and not just flailing with hyberbole IMO.

It just boggles my mind that someone wouldn't have demanded more from someone like Joe Pa who IS Penn St, not just a coach. Sandusky STILL was allowed on campus and had an office and would work out there, etc, all these years later but the school would not allow him to bring kids to the facility anymore, so he clearly had been found out, yet Joe Pa, and everyone else, turned a blind eye. That's solid fuqed up right there. So yes, in my mind, Joe knew what happened as he let his AD know, yet still looked this fuq in the eye on campus in some unofficial role for ow many years later. Joe Pa is not an *****, you know that if the AD had called the cops Sandusky would have been raped and murdered in jail by now. That didn't raise any bells to Joe Pa...this is a complerte cluster FAIL on Joe Pa and everyone else and honestly I hope anyone not criminally charged is civilly sued for every penny they earn to where there grandkids are poor.

Joe Pa's legacy is trash, Penn St is dead and the NCAA has yet another nail in what I hope is its coffin as an organization honestly. I'm honestly surprised I am so composed in this discussion. The things I want to do to Sandusky are just sick, even I'm shocked. I think for the first time my imagination has outdone anything I have ever heard while listening to Metal...and that's saying alot with some of the **** I jam lol.

 

[Honoring Earl 34]

LOL....best use of a smiley.


Arsenal, by the law, yes, he did what he had to do, the bare minimum. It is not illegal for him to call someone or follow up with the situation after he reported it. More should have been done.

Even though you admittedly don't have nor necessarily like kids as you have posted before, which is fine, you still sound ludicrous for acting as though he fulfilled his obligations in full as a human, law and morality aside. These were kids man, kids. You make sure someone pays for that.

Admitting that and joining a lynch mob are 2 different things. And obviously people who are parents like me, DB, Vinny, GHF, Nitro, Srrono, etc., are going to be more sensitive to the issue but we are still making logical arguments and not just flailing with hyberbole IMO.

It just boggles my mind that someone wouldn't have demanded more from someone like Joe Pa who IS Penn St, not just a coach. Sandusky STILL was allowed on campus and had an office and would work out there, etc, all these years later but the school would not allow him to bring kids to the facility anymore, so he clearly had been found out, yet Joe Pa, and everyone else, turned a blind eye. That's solid fuqed up right there. So yes, in my mind, Joe knew what happened as he let his AD know, yet still looked this fuq in the eye on campus in some unofficial role for ow many years later. Joe Pa is not an *****, you know that if the AD had called the cops Sandusky would have been raped and murdered in jail by now. That didn't raise any bells to Joe Pa...this is a complerte cluster FAIL on Joe Pa and everyone else and honestly I hope anyone not criminally charged is civilly sued for every penny they earn to where there grandkids are poor.

Joe Pa's legacy is trash, Penn St is dead and the NCAA has yet another nail in what I hope is its coffin as an organization honestly. I'm honestly surprised I am so composed in this discussion. The things I want to do to Sandusky are just sick, even I'm shocked. I think for the first time my imagination has outdone anything I have ever heard while listening to Metal...and that's saying alot with some of the **** I jam lol.

If I was Joe I'd be dropping dime because you know who enables a freak ?

 

[Arsenal]

My turn to nitpick what you are saying. There is also no law against your calling the police. You make it sound like he would have been doing something wrong by taking the next step. He may not be legally culpable, but he still should have made the call.

You are correct but I'm not against taking the next step. That next step is a personal choice because he doesn't have to do so. I'm not trying to sound like I'm condemning the idea of notifying the authorities and if I am then I sincerely apologize. My point was he may haven't met his moral responsibility but morality is subjective because what's moral for one may not be for another. The bare mininum was met therefore I don't think he should be legally punished.

 

[NitroGSXR]

You are correct but I'm not against taking the next step. That next step is a personal choice because he doesn't have to do so. I'm not trying to sound like I'm condemning the idea of notifying the authorities and if I am then I sincerely apologize. My point was he may haven't met his moral responsibility but morality is subjective because what's moral for one may not be for another. The bare mininum was met therefore I don't think he should be legally punished.

I can agree with the bolded. I fully expect his punishment to be illegally vicious.

 

[BattleRedToro]

You are correct but I'm not against taking the next step. That next step is a personal choice because he doesn't have to do so. I'm not trying to sound like I'm condemning the idea of notifying the authorities and if I am then I sincerely apologize. My point was he may haven't met his moral responsibility but morality is subjective because what's moral for one may not be for another. The bare mininum was met therefore I don't think he should be legally punished.

Actually, I believe you are wrong. The State of Pennsylvania has a code that requires all school personnel to report child abuse. Joe Paterno as a coach of a publicly funded state university would fall under this mandatory requirement. He failed to report this to the proper authorities within the required 48 hour time period. By the way, the Athletic Director is not considered the proper authority. I hope that charges will be filed on these grounds.

 

[GlassHalfFull]

Actually, I believe you are wrong. The State of Pennsylvania has a code that requires all school personnel to report child abuse. Joe Paterno as a coach of a publicly funded state university would fall under this mandatory requirement. He failed to report this to the proper authorities within the required 48 hour time period. By the way, the Athletic Director is not considered the proper authority. I hope that charges will be filed on these grounds.

I actually wondered if this was the case. Glad to hear it is.

 

[Arsenal]

Actually, I believe you are wrong. The State of Pennsylvania has a code that requires all school personnel to report child abuse. Joe Paterno as a coach of a publicly funded state university would fall under this mandatory requirement. He failed to report this to the proper authorities within the required 48 hour time period. By the way, the Athletic Director is not considered the proper authority. I hope that charges will be filed on these grounds.

I know about this but the attorney general has said that Paterno fulfilled his legal responsibility. That's why they won't be going after him for right now if at all.

 

[Honoring Earl 34]

I know about this but the attorney general has said that Paterno fulfilled his legal responsibility. That's why they won't be going after him for right now if at all.

This will then be a civil case .

 

[AcresHomesTexan]

http://boston.barstoolsports.com/

 

[BattleRedToro]

I know about this but the attorney general has said that Paterno fulfilled his legal responsibility. That's why they won't be going after him for right now if at all.

The Attorney General is full of crap if he only reported it to his Athletic Director. If pressure mounts for the Attorney General, who will be up for reelection in 2012, don't be surprised if her story changes. I'm hoping the people of Pennsylvania put the pressure on her. I hope child advocacy groups campaign in the press for charges to be filed against Paterno and McQueary.

 

[Honoring Earl 34]

http://www.pennlive.com/midstate/index.ssf/2011/11/former_centre_county_da_ray_g.html

Gricar was also the county’s top prosecutor when many of the other inappropriate acts were alleged to have happened. But before the allegations brought by a boy in Clinton County in 2009, the 23-page grand jury presentment says police were only ever notified once: in 1998.

According to those who were present during that investigation, Gricar seemed to be the one who made the decision not to prosecute.

We’ll probably never know why.

Gricar disappeared April 15, 2005, after taking a day off work to drive to Lewisburg. His disappearance has been the subject of a lot of speculation.

His laptop hard drive, which was found dumped in the Susquehanna River near where his car was parked in Lewisburg, was too badly damaged by water to be read

 

[Arsenal]

The Attorney General is full of crap if he only reported it to his Athletic Director. If pressure mounts for the Attorney General, who will be up for reelection in 2012, don't be surprised if her story changes. I'm hoping the people of Pennsylvania put the pressure on her. I hope child advocacy groups campaign in the press for charges to be filed against Paterno and McQueary.

We'll find out soon enough. The AG said he did what he had to do according to state law. If she does turn around and go after him. That's a bs political move. Then again, the AD maybe the proper authority. What proof do you have that the AD isn't? That's the only reason why the AG would make such an initial statement like that.

 

[BattleRedToro]

This will then be a civil case .

Meehan seeks federal probe of Penn State-sex scandal

Dear Secretary Duncan,

I share your sentiment that the allegations of misconduct at Pennsylvania State University are heartbreaking. Given the disturbing nature of these allegations, I am writing to respectfully urge you direct the Department of Education to conduct a full investigation into whether federal law was broken in the failure to properly report allegations of sexual abuse at Penn State.

...

 

[eriadoc]

What concerns me is figuring where's Paterno's responsibility and I don't need to read the whole report for my answer.

First off, Paterno's moral responsibility as an adult, an educator, an authority figure, and just a HUMAN ****ING BEING is to call the ****ing cops as soon as he hears something like that. Furthermore, there's some indication at this point that educators are legally required to notify CPS if they see or hear evidence of child abuse.

Paterno can burn in hell just like Sandusky, and in my less charitable moments, I hope someone sends them both there soon.

 

[BattleRedToro]

We'll find out soon enough. The AG said he did what he had to do according to state law. If she does turn around and go after him. That's a bs political move. Then again, the AD maybe the proper authority. What proof do you have that the AD isn't? That's the only reason why the AG would make such an initial statement like that.

No, it was a BS political move not to properly enforce the law in the first place.

 

[Arsenal]

No, it was a BS political move not to properly enforce the law in the first place.

First and foremost, it can't be proven amongst us for there isn't enough clarification. The AG knows though because she is in the thick of it. If she says he has did what he is supposed to then there is something she knows that you don't. She has nothing to gain politically by not going after Paterno. He's an old football coach with a severly tarnished legacy already. No matter the overall outcome of him and the whole situation.

 

[Vinny]

http://boston.barstoolsports.com/

wow, thats awful. For those of you that didn't click the link, Paterno held a bizarro pep rally on his yard today

“We want Joe!” (students chanting)

“And I want you!” Paterno said. “It’s hard for me to tell you how much this means to me. You guys have lived for this place. I’ve lived for people like you guys and girls. I’m just so happy to see that you feel so strongly about us and about our school. And as I said, I don’t know if you heard me or not, is, you know, the kids who were victims or whatever they want to say, I think we all ought to say a prayer for them. It’s a tough life when people do certain things to you. But anyway, you've been great. You’ve been really great.”

“Who are we?!”

“Penn State!”

20 Victims? The Penn State Story Gets Worse by the Hour

UNIVERSITY PARK, Pa. – Fox 29 has learned the number of child-abuse in the Penn State sex-abuse scandal involving ex-coach Jerry Sandusky has more than doubled in the past day, and is closer to 20 victims……………………Sources tell Fox 29 since a press conference on Monday, the number of potential victims has more than doubled in the case…………….On Monday, state officials publicized two phone numbers for past victims to call, and within a day, it seems investigators have new leads.

http://www.beyondusports.com/20-victims-penn-state-story-worse-hour/

 

[JCTexan]

Can't we at least hear what Joe has to say or do we just not care that much? I think we can.

Where did I say that? Read the thread let's not put words in the mouth of others either.

I didn't mean for it to seem like I was putting words in your mouth. For that I apologize.

Since Paterno was the one who notified the athletic director of what happened, don't you think it would be safe to assume he knew as much as the AD? So why would anyone care what he has to say?

 

[Vinny]

“All that is needed for evil to triumph is for good men to do nothing.”​

Advocates for priest-abuse victims saw parallels in how the university and the Roman Catholic church handled similar problems.

"Here we are again," said John Salveson, former president of the Pennsylvania chapter of the Survivors Network of those Abused by Priests. "When an institution discovers abuse of a kid ... their first reaction was to protect the reputation of the institution and the perpetrator."

"They didn't even try to find out the identity of the kid that was being raped in the shower," he said. "Their solution to this was to not let Sandusky into the shower anymore. It's just stunning to me that no one called the police."

State police Commissioner Frank Noonan said that although Paterno may have met his legal requirement to report suspected abuse by Sandusky, "somebody has to question about what I would consider the moral requirements for a human being that knows of sexual things that are taking place with a child."

He added: "I think you have the moral responsibility, anyone. Not whether you're a football coach or a university president or the guy sweeping the building. I think you have a moral responsibility to call us."

The grand jury report said McQueary was in the locker room that night to put away some new sneakers when he heard "rhythmic, slapping sounds" and looked into the showers.

He reportedly saw a naked boy, about 10 years old, with his hands against the wall as Sandusky subjected him to anal sex. McQueary left immediately and first contacted his father before calling Paterno the next morning and then meeting at Paterno's home.

Exactly what was said during that meeting is unclear from the grand jury record, which states that Paterno called Curley the next day to tell him McQueary had seen Sandusky "in the Lasch Building showers fondling or doing something of a sexual nature to a young boy."

http://abcnews.go.com/Sports/wireStory/official-paterno-stop-abuse-14901094#.TroBdvSArWI

 

[bigfan77801]

I used to have respect for Joe Pa, now I want him (and every other person involved in the cover-up) tossed in into the General Population in whatever prison they ended up in. I also would like to see the shower room burned to the ground, as fire is the only thing that can cleanse it.