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Why can Florio quote "F&CK" and get it printed...............and we can't? :rolleyes:

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Jerry Jones provides feisty — and profane — defense of his G.M. abilities
By Mike Florio
Published August 26, 2024 09:30 PM

When he bought the Cowboys in 1989, Jerry Jones had zero qualifications to be the team’s General Manager. But he was the owner, and that’s all that mattered.

Thirty-five years later, Jones has plenty of experience at the job he wasn’t qualified to do. And he recently got feisty — and profane — in defending his current ability to do the job.

“I’ve done it all,” Jones told Clarence E. Hill, Jr. of the new AllDLLS.com. “So I have an ordinate amount of confidence that ****, if anybody can figure out how to get this **** done, I can figure out how to get it done. I’ve been there every which way from Sunday, and have I busted my ass a bunch, a bunch. And there’s nobody living that’s out cutting and shooting that can’t give you a bunch of times they busted their ass. So hell no, there’s nobody that could ******* come in here and do all the contracts . . . and be a G.M. any better than I can.

“Plus, I’m where the buck stops. When it fucks up, I got to cover it. And so there you can’t give anybody enough. Can’t give. There’s nobody can do it.”

He’s right. But there’s also no accountability, because the owner can’t be fired.

Still, he’s accountable to those in the media who would criticize him. Unlike other owners, who meddle while hiding behind General Managers and coach, Jones owns it. And he has for three and a half decades.

“I ******* have had hundreds of [bad days],” Jones said. “I’m emotional about it sometimes. Well, running this thing, that’s who I want to make the last call. Now, when I can’t ******* think, when I’m old and I can’t even do it . . . but I’m a long way from not being able to do it too.”

Why not hire someone else to be the G.M.?

“The reason I don’t let somebody else be the G.M. is because I don’t have anybody that I will let do it to actually do it right,” Jones said. “And they’re gonna have to come to me and because I know where it is that you’re going to pay for it.”

So he does it because he doesn’t trust anyone else to do it. And because he likes it.

“If I didn’t give a ****, if this wasn’t fun for me to do, or interesting for me to do, whatever you want to call . . . the facts are, I really would rather be ******* around like this,” Jones said. “The point is I love this. And you know I do.”

Regardless, the results speak for themselves. For the first 30 Super Bowls, the Cowboys played for the right to play in the Super Bowl 16 times. For the last 28, zero.

No other G.M. would have survived that. And plenty of others from the group Jones deems to be not good enough have won championships.

The bottom line is he does it because he can. Because there’s no one to tell him not to. And because the fans keep giving him their money, time, and attention.

If that would ever end — if the fans would ever organize and ignore the Cowboys until he hires a G.M. — Jones would have a tough decision to make. With the Cowboys still “America’s Team” despite nearly three decades of not-good-enough, he’s more than good enough to keep doing what he’s done.
 
CloakNNNdagger said:
Why can Florio quote "F&CK" and get it printed...............and we can't? :rolleyes:

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Jerry Jones provides feisty — and profane — defense of his G.M. abilities
By Mike Florio
Published August 26, 2024 09:30 PM

When he bought the Cowboys in 1989, Jerry Jones had zero qualifications to be the team’s General Manager. But he was the owner, and that’s all that mattered.

Thirty-five years later, Jones has plenty of experience at the job he wasn’t qualified to do. And he recently got feisty — and profane — in defending his current ability to do the job.

“I’ve done it all,” Jones told Clarence E. Hill, Jr. of the new AllDLLS.com. “So I have an ordinate amount of confidence that ****, if anybody can figure out how to get this **** done, I can figure out how to get it done. I’ve been there every which way from Sunday, and have I busted my ass a bunch, a bunch. And there’s nobody living that’s out cutting and shooting that can’t give you a bunch of times they busted their ass. So hell no, there’s nobody that could ******* come in here and do all the contracts . . . and be a G.M. any better than I can.

“Plus, I’m where the buck stops. When it fucks up, I got to cover it. And so there you can’t give anybody enough. Can’t give. There’s nobody can do it.”

He’s right. But there’s also no accountability, because the owner can’t be fired.

Still, he’s accountable to those in the media who would criticize him. Unlike other owners, who meddle while hiding behind General Managers and coach, Jones owns it. And he has for three and a half decades.

“I ******* have had hundreds of [bad days],” Jones said. “I’m emotional about it sometimes. Well, running this thing, that’s who I want to make the last call. Now, when I can’t ******* think, when I’m old and I can’t even do it . . . but I’m a long way from not being able to do it too.”

Why not hire someone else to be the G.M.?

“The reason I don’t let somebody else be the G.M. is because I don’t have anybody that I will let do it to actually do it right,” Jones said. “And they’re gonna have to come to me and because I know where it is that you’re going to pay for it.”

So he does it because he doesn’t trust anyone else to do it. And because he likes it.

“If I didn’t give a ****, if this wasn’t fun for me to do, or interesting for me to do, whatever you want to call . . . the facts are, I really would rather be ******* around like this,” Jones said. “The point is I love this. And you know I do.”

Regardless, the results speak for themselves. For the first 30 Super Bowls, the Cowboys played for the right to play in the Super Bowl 16 times. For the last 28, zero.

No other G.M. would have survived that. And plenty of others from the group Jones deems to be not good enough have won championships.

The bottom line is he does it because he can. Because there’s no one to tell him not to. And because the fans keep giving him their money, time, and attention.

If that would ever end — if the fans would ever organize and ignore the Cowboys until he hires a G.M. — Jones would have a tough decision to make. With the Cowboys still “America’s Team” despite nearly three decades of not-good-enough, he’s more than good enough to keep doing what he’s done.
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Uh.. you just did quote it. You meant say it, right? That's another forum that we have already been through. Anyway, cursing makes us men.. whoops, better include women so.. adults.
 
badboy said:
I disagree. He may have had that thought with Lance but he should know better by now. But I could insert Pierce for Lance and say the same thing.
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I think having a running back not do well is a little different from watching a QB throw 5 picks versus backups in a single game.
 
Sweech said:
I think having a running back not do well is a little different from watching a QB throw 5 picks versus backups in a single game.
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I was referring to the stubbornness of holding on to a player despite what their productivity shows. Both is true of Jones and Ryans.
 
www.espn.com

Sources: NFL owners to vote for private equity

A move to allow private equity firms to invest as limited partners could free up cash for owners to pursue projects such as stadium renovations and would represent a large shift in how the league has historically operated.
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The owners flew to Minnesota for a special session called by NFL commissioner Roger Goodell, where they are expected to approve allowing the sale of up to 10% of a stake in a franchise to a select number of private equity firms the league has vetted at over the past few months, according to ESPN's Adam Schefter and multiple reports.
 
CloakNNNdagger said:
The Titans have traded Malik Willis to the Packers for a 2025 seventh-round draft pick. So much for the 2nd coming.
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The Titans have waived their #22 pick of the 2021 Draft Caleb Farley after he started in only 2 games of the 12 he even made it on the field for. He came into the League already with back problems (an especially bad problem for a CB.........what were the Vrabel and the Titans thinking). He quickly suffered a torn ACL as a rookie (likely compensatory to his ongoing core problem). He then had more back issues that caused him to miss time in 2022 and all of last season.
 
Colts 2022 3rd round pick TE Jelani Woods who spent all of 2023 on IR for a severe hamstring tear is now going on season-ending IR 2 days following turf toe surgery.
 
Mary Kay Cabot of Cleveland.com is reporting that the Browns are keeping Dorian Thompson-Robinson. and that both Jameis Winston and Tyler Huntley are up for trading.
 
Sweech said:
And only two RBs to my knowledge.

Must be hoping someone offers something for a QB.
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They may try the following with Foreman. If they don't, they will have to look elsewhere quickly. Chubbs even when he can return, is most likely in my opinion not going to be very productive..............certainly not anything like the Chubbs of old. Anticipating bringing Foreman back if solely as a placeholder for Chubbs may be a terrible idea.
 
www.espn.com

49ers place RB Mitchell on IR, out for season

After returning to practice last week following a hamstring injury, 49ers running back Elijah Mitchell's comeback hit a significant roadblock on Tuesday.
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In a bit of a surprise move, the Niners placed Mitchell on injured reserve on Tuesday afternoon and did not use one of their designations for Mitchell to return, which rules him out for the season.
 
Las Vegas police union remains opposed to NFL’s new access policy
By Mike Florio
Published August 28, 2024 09:19 AM

The NFL’s new access policy for certain locations in its stadiums continues to generate a strenuous objection from the Las Vegas police union.

Via Noble Brigham of the Las Vegas Review-Journal, union president Steve Grammas said that the Las Vegas Police Protective Association continues to recommend that its members not comply with procedures that require facial recognition for clearance to enter certain areas of the venue.

Grammas said that the union, the Las Vegas Metropolitan Police Department, and NFL personnel held on Friday a Zoom meeting regarding the issue. No progress was made; Grammas said the officers will not comply with the new procedures.

The Raiders and the NFL have some time to sort it out, but not much. The team’s first two games will be played on the road.

The Raiders open their home schedule on September 22, against the Panthers.

The league will have a problem if the police refuse to work the game. At some point, the NFL and/or the Raiders will need to hire their own private force to secure the premises before, during, and after the game.
 
JB said:
www.espn.com

49ers place RB Mitchell on IR, out for season

After returning to practice last week following a hamstring injury, 49ers running back Elijah Mitchell's comeback hit a significant roadblock on Tuesday.
www.espn.com www.espn.com
In a bit of a surprise move, the Niners placed Mitchell on injured reserve on Tuesday afternoon and did not use one of their designations for Mitchell to return, which rules him out for the season.
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The past 2 seasons, Mitchel has been plagued with continuous hamstring, groin and knee injuries. Now with 2 additional significant hamstring tears within the past month, his chances of making it through 2024 without continuing hamstring problems let alone other injuries would be highly unlikely.
 
This is how most all cities and their fans feel................or should feel.

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No more! Columbus, Cleveland can't keep feeding Browns, Crew money when teams make millions​

The people of Cleveland and Cuyahoga County have given a lot to the Haslam family; they should not be on the hook for anymore.​

Bill DeMora
Guest Columnist

State Sen. Bill DeMora (D-Columbus) represents Ohio’s 25th Senate District, which encompasses areas of Franklin County including Clintonville, Upper Arlington, Grandview Heights, South Linden, Italian Village, Victorian Village, Ohio State University and Northland.

I will start by admitting that I am a lifelong Cleveland Browns fan. I had season tickets from when I was in high school to the day the original Browns left town because of the previous greedy owner.

Earlier this month, the current owners of the Browns came to the city of Cleveland looking for a handout. Even though Cleveland Browns Stadium opened in 1999, the Haslams, who also own the Columbus Crew and co-own the Milwaukee Bucks, decided the stadium was not good enough.

After negotiating and juggling the budget, the city of Cleveland returned with an offer and said they could provide $426 million, nearly half the entire cost to renovate the current stadium completely.
Jimmy Haslam responded that it was not good enough.

Instead, the owners are asking the Cleveland City Council, Cuyahoga County and the State of Ohio to appropriate over 1 billion taxpayer dollars to build a new stadium that isn’t even in Cleveland, but 13 miles away in Brook Park.

This latest ask is alongside the $243 million that the taxpayers of Cuyahoga County have already given to the Browns since 2010. The Browns cost the county’s taxpayers money every time anyone buys alcohol or tobacco with a vice tax and every time they park with a parking tax, in addition to taking $2 million every year out of the general revenue fund, which is largely funded by city income taxes.

The people of Cleveland and Cuyahoga County have given a lot to the Haslam family; they should not be on the hook for anymore.

Cities need to stop giving our taxpayer money to billion-dollar groups​

This problem is not just in Cleveland.

We have dealt with the same in Columbus, giving $200 million to the Haslams so the Columbus Crew could have a brand-new stadium. For decades, local and state governments all over the U.S. have given billions to support the private families or corporations who own our sports teams.

I understand the inclination of elected officials to fund these projects. Apart from generating millions of dollars in revenue for their host cities through ticket sales, restaurants and hotel bookings, professional sports teams also cultivate community spirit and excitement.

But at the end of the day, governments have a bigger responsibility: the responsibility to provide reliable goods and services to their people and do it effectively.

How many kids could be given free breakfast and lunch daily for one billion dollars?

How many affordable housing units could have been built? How many home health care or child care workers, teachers, professors, nurses or mental health professionals could be trained, hired and paid a living wage?

We, as elected officials, need to stop bending the knee for these billionaires every time they want a fancy new stadium.

The owners of these sports teams rake in millions and millions in revenue, so if they decide that a renovation or new stadium is in order, they should make it happen themselves instead of always looking to the government for a handout.

State Sen. Bill DeMora (D-Columbus) represents Ohio’s 25th Senate District, which encompasses areas of Franklin County including Clintonville, Upper Arlington, Grandview Heights, South Linden, Italian Village, Victorian Village, Ohio State University and Northland.
 
CloakNNNdagger said:
Las Vegas police union remains opposed to NFL’s new access policy
By Mike Florio
Published August 28, 2024 09:19 AM

The NFL’s new access policy for certain locations in its stadiums continues to generate a strenuous objection from the Las Vegas police union.

Via Noble Brigham of the Las Vegas Review-Journal, union president Steve Grammas said that the Las Vegas Police Protective Association continues to recommend that its members not comply with procedures that require facial recognition for clearance to enter certain areas of the venue.

Grammas said that the union, the Las Vegas Metropolitan Police Department, and NFL personnel held on Friday a Zoom meeting regarding the issue. No progress was made; Grammas said the officers will not comply with the new procedures.

The Raiders and the NFL have some time to sort it out, but not much. The team’s first two games will be played on the road.

The Raiders open their home schedule on September 22, against the Panthers.

The league will have a problem if the police refuse to work the game. At some point, the NFL and/or the Raiders will need to hire their own private force to secure the premises before, during, and after the game.
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This is a football/NFL related news topic which definitely has political overtones. But I guess it's OK to say I hope the LV police stand firm in their opposition to this. And I hope any privately hired security firm would oppose its use. Perhaps a lawsuit would be in order at some point in the future.
 
CloakNNNdagger said:
This is how most all cities and their fans feel................or should feel.

***************

No more! Columbus, Cleveland can't keep feeding Browns, Crew money when teams make millions​

The people of Cleveland and Cuyahoga County have given a lot to the Haslam family; they should not be on the hook for anymore.​

Bill DeMora
Guest Columnist

State Sen. Bill DeMora (D-Columbus) represents Ohio’s 25th Senate District, which encompasses areas of Franklin County including Clintonville, Upper Arlington, Grandview Heights, South Linden, Italian Village, Victorian Village, Ohio State University and Northland.

I will start by admitting that I am a lifelong Cleveland Browns fan. I had season tickets from when I was in high school to the day the original Browns left town because of the previous greedy owner.

Earlier this month, the current owners of the Browns came to the city of Cleveland looking for a handout. Even though Cleveland Browns Stadium opened in 1999, the Haslams, who also own the Columbus Crew and co-own the Milwaukee Bucks, decided the stadium was not good enough.

After negotiating and juggling the budget, the city of Cleveland returned with an offer and said they could provide $426 million, nearly half the entire cost to renovate the current stadium completely.
Jimmy Haslam responded that it was not good enough.

Instead, the owners are asking the Cleveland City Council, Cuyahoga County and the State of Ohio to appropriate over 1 billion taxpayer dollars to build a new stadium that isn’t even in Cleveland, but 13 miles away in Brook Park.

This latest ask is alongside the $243 million that the taxpayers of Cuyahoga County have already given to the Browns since 2010. The Browns cost the county’s taxpayers money every time anyone buys alcohol or tobacco with a vice tax and every time they park with a parking tax, in addition to taking $2 million every year out of the general revenue fund, which is largely funded by city income taxes.

The people of Cleveland and Cuyahoga County have given a lot to the Haslam family; they should not be on the hook for anymore.

Cities need to stop giving our taxpayer money to billion-dollar groups​

This problem is not just in Cleveland.

We have dealt with the same in Columbus, giving $200 million to the Haslams so the Columbus Crew could have a brand-new stadium. For decades, local and state governments all over the U.S. have given billions to support the private families or corporations who own our sports teams.

I understand the inclination of elected officials to fund these projects. Apart from generating millions of dollars in revenue for their host cities through ticket sales, restaurants and hotel bookings, professional sports teams also cultivate community spirit and excitement.

But at the end of the day, governments have a bigger responsibility: the responsibility to provide reliable goods and services to their people and do it effectively.

How many kids could be given free breakfast and lunch daily for one billion dollars?

How many affordable housing units could have been built? How many home health care or child care workers, teachers, professors, nurses or mental health professionals could be trained, hired and paid a living wage?

We, as elected officials, need to stop bending the knee for these billionaires every time they want a fancy new stadium.

The owners of these sports teams rake in millions and millions in revenue, so if they decide that a renovation or new stadium is in order, they should make it happen themselves instead of always looking to the government for a handout.

State Sen. Bill DeMora (D-Columbus) represents Ohio’s 25th Senate District, which encompasses areas of Franklin County including Clintonville, Upper Arlington, Grandview Heights, South Linden, Italian Village, Victorian Village, Ohio State University and Northland.
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Sounds like the Oilers situation before they left...
 
CloakNNNdagger said:
He'll be flying in with one wing.............
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badboy said:
sports.yahoo.com

Report: Cowboys meeting with ex-Pro Bowl RB Dalvin Cook

Cook is reportedly flying to meet with the Cowboys on Monday.
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Cook is reportedly flying to meet with the Cowboys on Monday.
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RB Dalvin Cook signs with Dallas Cowboys' practice squad

The 29-year-old Cook spent the 2023 season with the Jets and Ravens.
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The 29-year-old Cook spent the 2023 season with the Jets and Ravens.
 
The $62 million cap space makes the Browns the team with the greatest cap space in the NFL...........................BUT.........................
The restructuring means Watson's cap number for the 2025 and 2026 seasons, the final two of his current five-year, $230 million contract, would be $72.935 million. The dead cap number, per Spotrac, would be $172 million in 2025, $99 million in 2026 and $26.9 million in void dead cap.

If Watson has another pathetic season with the Browns (which I see as most likely), the resulting cap hell couldn't happen to a more deserving owner.

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Browns restructure Deshaun Watson’s contract to create more 2024 cap space
By Josh Alper
Published August 29, 2024 08:14 AM


The Browns shouldn’t have any issues with cap space this season.

Field Yates of ESPN reports that the team has restructured the contract of quarterback Deshaun Watson ahead of next week’s start to the regular season. The team converted $44.79 million of his salary for the coming year into a signing bonus.

The move creates $35.832 million in cap space and leaves the Browns with over $62 million in cap space. It also bumps up
Watson’s salary cap hit for each of the next two seasons, but Watson’s fully guaranteed salaries for those seasons mean that the team already had plenty of cap exposure with the quarterback.

Should Watson’s performance not rise above what the Browns have already seen from him, those numbers will be the subject of much hand-wringing in Cleveland.
 
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