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Mollywhopper said:
Are you kidding me.. I called it several days ago..






You're childlike predictable..

If you'd like, just ask and I'll tell you when you're ready for your binky..
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You would think being a paper boy you would understand definitions well enough to understand the meaning of the word OUTLiER? I guess you don't so that tells me a lot about your level of intelligence.

Posts like this confirm who you really are. Thanks for putting this out there for all to see.
 
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"The worst rule in football"? I'm sure it took a whole brain trust and big bucks to come up with this rule change. Meanwhile, still no one knows what a catch is..............:toropalm:

Take note NFL: XFL, USFL to dump the worst rule in football
Posted by Mike Florio on February 15, 2023, 11:02 AM EST


When Homer Simpson believed his heart would soon explode due to the ingestion of the venom of a poison blowfish, he imparted three pieces of advice to his son, Bart. Specifically, Homer shared three sayings for getting by in any workplace setting.
One, “Cover for me.” Two, “Great idea, boss.” And, three, “It was like that when I got here.”

That last line becomes the best excuse for the NFL’s adherence to the outdated rule that makes a fumble in the field of play that exits the end zone a turnover, with the defense getting the ball at its 20.

My assault on the rule is one of the chapters in Playmakers. I won’t rehash my complete and total hatred of the rule here. It’s stupid. It’s dumb. It’s nonsensical. It’s counterintuitive. If the ball goes out of bounds at the one-inch line, the offense gets possession at the spot of the fumble. If it touches the goal line before going out of bounds, the defense gets possession — not at the spot of the fumble but with 20 yards of free field position.

Via the folks at FootballZebras.com (who actually like the rule, referring derisively to those who properly regard it as an abomination as “the mob”), the XFL and UFSL will adopt the proper version of this rule for 2023. Possession reverts to the offense at the spot of the fumble.

The only defense to the NFL’s version of the rule is that’s the way it’s always been. So what? Once upon a time, a pass that landed incomplete in the end zone also triggered a touchback for the defense. And that rule went away.

The fact that the Competition Committee has never seriously considered changing the rule doesn’t count as an endorsement of it. If/when that rule ever is applied when more than 100 million people are watching the Super Bowl, it will change before the next season. Guaranteed.

That’s how the NFL rolls. Ignore a problem that’s hiding in plain sight until it creates an embarrassment that forces a change. The NFL is typically reactive, not proactive, regarding the flaws in its rulebook.

There’s another reason why there hasn’t been a groundswell to change the rule. For every team that is screwed by its application, another team benefits.

The game would benefit by ditching this rule. Good for the XFL and USFL to embrace reason and common sense. Hopefully, the NFL will wake up and change the rule — before it’s applied in a Super Bowl and millions of casual, drive-by fans express dismay, followed by outrage.
 
Travis Kelce and Mahomes: I just heard a small bit of audio from those two at their parade. WTF are they blabbing on about being wrote off? No one wrote KC off. They were considered a top 5 team and a favorite to win it all along with a few other teams. They HAVE to be drunk?
 
Texazan said:
Travis Kelce and Mahomes: I just heard a small bit of audio from those two at their parade. WTF are they blabbing on about being wrote off? No one wrote KC off. They were considered a top 5 team and a favorite to win it all along with a few other teams. They HAVE to be drunk?
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Just Jane pounding her chest saying to Tarzan "You thought I couldn't call the elephants!"
 
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Former Philadelphia Eagles captain Chris Maragos awarded $43.5 million in medical malpractice case | CNN

Former Philadelphia Eagles captain Chris Maragos has been awarded $43.5 million in a lawsuit against his doctors over a career-ending knee injury.
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Former Philadelphia Eagles captain Chris Maragos has been awarded $43.5 million in a lawsuit against his doctors over a career-ending knee injury.

The jury at the Philadelphia County Court of Common Pleas found that orthopedic surgeon James Bradley and Rothman Orthopaedics were negligent in the medical malpractice case, causing harm to two-time Super Bowl-winning safety and forcing him to end his NFL career prematurely.

Bradley was found to be 67% negligent ($29.2 million) and Rothman Orthopaedics 33% ($14.3 million), according to court documents.

“This case and this jury may have changed the course of history by now forcing these team doctors and trainers to stop worrying about when a player might return to play and start thinking about the next 50 years of a player’s life,” Maragos’ lawyer, Dion G. Rassias, said in a statement.

The case centered around a meniscus tear that Maragos’ representatives said Bradley and Rothman Orthopaedics failed to treat and the decision to advance his rehabilitation from injury, which caused further damage to his knee.
 
Boris said:
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Former Philadelphia Eagles captain Chris Maragos awarded $43.5 million in medical malpractice case | CNN

Former Philadelphia Eagles captain Chris Maragos has been awarded $43.5 million in a lawsuit against his doctors over a career-ending knee injury.
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Former Philadelphia Eagles captain Chris Maragos has been awarded $43.5 million in a lawsuit against his doctors over a career-ending knee injury.

The jury at the Philadelphia County Court of Common Pleas found that orthopedic surgeon James Bradley and Rothman Orthopaedics were negligent in the medical malpractice case, causing harm to two-time Super Bowl-winning safety and forcing him to end his NFL career prematurely.

Bradley was found to be 67% negligent ($29.2 million) and Rothman Orthopaedics 33% ($14.3 million), according to court documents.

“This case and this jury may have changed the course of history by now forcing these team doctors and trainers to stop worrying about when a player might return to play and start thinking about the next 50 years of a player’s life,” Maragos’ lawyer, Dion G. Rassias, said in a statement.

The case centered around a meniscus tear that Maragos’ representatives said Bradley and Rothman Orthopaedics failed to treat and the decision to advance his rehabilitation from injury, which caused further damage to his knee.
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What actually happened was that during the surgery, the surgeon repaired a torn posterior cruciate ligament. However, there previous damage to the meniscus which he felt would be OK with anticipated rehab. Some surgeons feel that players can many times play through meniscus damage without making it worse. This has not been my experience, and stated as much when Clowney was allowed to do so.
 
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CloakNNNdagger said:
What actually happened was that during the surgery, the surgeon repaired a torn posterior uciate ligament. However, there previous damage to the meniscus which he felt would be OK with anticipated rehab. Some surgeons feel that players can many times play through meniscus damage without making it worse. This has not been my experience, and stated as much when Clowney was allowed to do so.
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why not repair the meniscus at the same time?

does "ok w/anticipated rehab" mean the meniscus damage could possibly heal itself with proper time & care?
 
Boris said:
why not repair the meniscus at the same time?

does "ok w/anticipated rehab" mean the meniscus damage could possibly heal itself with proper time & care?
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The meniscus should have been addressed by trim or excision, whichever appropriate. Continuing to play with a torn meniscus, however, will likely have long-term effects on the ability of that cartilage to heal on its own. Low-grade meniscus tears can often heal without surgery, and these are the only ones that should be attempted for rehab. His tear was known to be an old one which had not healed over a long period of time had it been diagnosed properly..............a tear which by that time if not healed, would not be expected to heal without surgical intervention. Continuing to play with a significant torn meniscus, however, will likely have long-term effects on the ability of that cartilage to ever heal on its own...............and can extend to irreparable damage to the knee joint.

As far as rehab............Maybe for you. But unlikely for a big heavy elite NFL player.
 
Texazan said:
Travis Kelce and Mahomes: I just heard a small bit of audio from those two at their parade. WTF are they blabbing on about being wrote off? No one wrote KC off. They were considered a top 5 team and a favorite to win it all along with a few other teams. They HAVE to be drunk?
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Well I heard some more of it and boy how embarrassing.
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I'm not sure which is worst. The minute it appears a team might be a playoff team and their fans start whining about their team not getting any respect from the media or players on good teams pulling the "no respect, we were written off, everyone counted us out" card.
 
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Finally, something possibly happening with this dirt bag. When details first came out, I was surprised how Goodell stayed out of this one. [Although I shouldn't have been.] Kamara and ckedthree others were indicted Thursday on charges of conspiracy to commit battery and battery resulting in substantial bodily harm [knocked unconscious, including orbital (eye socket) fractures, . Kamara is accused of punching a man eight times, and the incident was caught on camera. This occurrence was back on Feb 5 of last year. Oct 14, a civil lawsuit was filed, photos, video.............and no response from the NFL.

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Alvin Kamara indicted in Las Vegas battery case
Posted by Josh Alper on February 16, 2023, 4:24 PM EST
 
Texazan said:
Travis Kelce and Mahomes: I just heard a small bit of audio from those two at their parade. WTF are they blabbing on about being wrote off? No one wrote KC off. They were considered a top 5 team and a favorite to win it all along with a few other teams. They HAVE to be drunk?
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Small slights that gave them the motivation they needed:

1) Tyreek trade, being told they can’t duplicate their previous performance without Hill.

2) Burrowhead. This is probably the most legitimate gripe they have, but to be fair Burrow was 3-0 against them heading into the conference championship this year. But easy to see why they took it personally.

3) Betting underdogs in the Super Bowl. Somebody has to be an underdog and it wasn’t all that significant.

End of the day, they are a dynasty team looking for any sort of motivational fuel they can. they aren’t used to criticism like a team such as the Texans routinely receives because they are so successful.
 

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Moats says that the Eagles are putting Hurts in a position to be injured.
"You keep doing that QB sneak, your guys are going down low, your quarterback is sitting right up here, up top. Headshotted. It's bad, it's dirty, it's not a good thing but you want a person to stop running that play that's what you do. Because you hit Jalen Hurts one time legitimately in the face as the ball carrier, because that's what he is, you go down there and put that Riddell (referring to the helmet brand) on him like he's a real running back and I can assure you they would not be calling that QB sneak as frequently."
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That injury potential is the reason he thinks the play will be made illegal.
"The other alternative is when they start pushing you to find a way to get your helmet right where his knee is so when they are pushing him forward his knee is driving into your helmet. That's the thing they don't want. It is not the most savory but it's an effective way and that's why I think they'll change the rule first before they allow that because if I'm a DC that's the answer to it."
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his podcast Not Just Football with Cam Heyward, Heyward spoke to co-host Hayden Walsh and guest Mina Kimes, about the play. Kimes asked Heyward if the unstoppable play makes him angry as a defender.
"It's illegal, they're never set. If you watch, the O-lineman are never set," Heyward said.
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He is next asked if the rules should be changed.
"I'm triggered. Yes, it should be changed, they are never given time, they hurry up to the ball and no one is ever set. They are rolling forward, I have this on tape, we can watch it. I'm always p----d off in these fourth downs because it's always so skewed to the offense. I'm just confused why they switched the rule, it used to be a penalty to push your guy forward. Nobody really noticed until the Eagles were like oh this is unstoppable."
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TheRealJoker said:
Small slights that gave them the motivation they needed:

1) Tyreek trade, being told they can’t duplicate their previous performance without Hill.

2) Burrowhead. This is probably the most legitimate gripe they have, but to be fair Burrow was 3-0 against them heading into the conference championship this year. But easy to see why they took it personally.

3) Betting underdogs in the Super Bowl. Somebody has to be an underdog and it wasn’t all that significant.

End of the day, they are a dynasty team looking for any sort of motivational fuel they can. they aren’t used to criticism like a team such as the Texans routinely receives because they are so successful.
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It still is Burrowhead as long as the refs aren't rigging games.
 
If the NFL attempts to circumvent their Federal exempt agreement, nothing would make me happier than the NFL getting emasculated by the Feds.

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Would the NFL ever make the Super Bowl to a PPV event?
Posted by Mike Florio on February 17, 2023, 9:54 AM EST


Twice in the past two years (August 2021 and this week), former ESPN president John Skipper suggested that the Super Bowl eventually will become a pay-per-view event. Twice in response, we pointed out on Twitter that this potential shift comes with one major risk.

If/when the NFL ever removes the Super Bowl from free, over-the-air TV, Congress may immediately strip the NFL of its critically important broadcast antitrust exemption.

Here’s how it works. The NFL, as underscored by the American Needle decision from the Supreme Court in 2010, consists of 32 distinct businesses. The league cannot engage in collective business practices and strategies, such as fixing prices or setting non-player compensation.

The NFL enjoys two important antitrust exemptions. First, the federal labor laws allow these 32 businesses to use one set of employment rules for players because it operates as what’s known as a “multi-employer bargaining unit.” Second, a specific act of Congress from the early 1960s created an exemption for the NFL from the prohibition on selling broadcast rights to its games as a group.

Without the broadcast antitrust exemption, the league couldn’t say to the networks, “You buy a package of our games and we decide which games you get.” Instead, the networks would do business directly with the teams, like NBC does with Notre Dame.

There would be a Cowboys package and, at the other end of the spectrum, a package for the least interesting team. It would potentially result in fewer total dollars, and it would test the limits of the willingness of the owners to continue to share revenues.

If/when the NFL were to decide to take the Super Bowl away from the people, why wouldn’t Congress react by stripping the NFL of its broadcast antitrust exemption?

There’s another reason for the NFL to shy away from chasing PPV dollars. If the league charges $100 or whatever to watch the Super Bowl, there’s no way 100 million people will tune in. And that’s huge for the NFL. It justifies a large chunk of the billions the networks pay.

That said, the NFL for the first time has sent a major prime-time package to, essentially, a PPV platform, with Thursday Night Football on Amazon Prime. And if only 25 million people pay $100 each for the Super Bowl, that’s $2.5 billion in revenue. From one game.

At a certain point, the revenue outweighs the consequences. At a certain point, a league obsessed with making as much money as possible will have to at least consider the pros and cons of making the ultimate direct-to-consumer cash grab.

Maybe if they did, the playing surface for the Super Bowl wouldn’t be as shitty as it was five days ago.
 
CloakNNNdagger said:
Not smart.............a great way to get your runner injured/killed.

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Sean Payton Will Use “Rugby Scrum” Play Until NFL Changes Rule
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He's probably implementing it to break Wilson so he has a reason to jettison him from the roster. Several source said he took the job "in spite of" Russell Wilson. I think he'll give the QB a year to prove himself, but all bets are off after that. I doubt he's willing to ruin his legacy with a mediocre player obsessed over his own image.
 
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If the NFL attempts to circumvent their Federal exempt agreement, nothing would make me happier than the NFL getting emasculated by the Feds.

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Would the NFL ever make the Super Bowl to a PPV event?
Posted by Mike Florio on February 17, 2023, 9:54 AM EST


Twice in the past two years (August 2021 and this week), former ESPN president John Skipper suggested that the Super Bowl eventually will become a pay-per-view event. Twice in response, we pointed out on Twitter that this potential shift comes with one major risk.

If/when the NFL ever removes the Super Bowl from free, over-the-air TV, Congress may immediately strip the NFL of its critically important broadcast antitrust exemption.

Here’s how it works. The NFL, as underscored by the American Needle decision from the Supreme Court in 2010, consists of 32 distinct businesses. The league cannot engage in collective business practices and strategies, such as fixing prices or setting non-player compensation.

The NFL enjoys two important antitrust exemptions. First, the federal labor laws allow these 32 businesses to use one set of employment rules for players because it operates as what’s known as a “multi-employer bargaining unit.” Second, a specific act of Congress from the early 1960s created an exemption for the NFL from the prohibition on selling broadcast rights to its games as a group.

Without the broadcast antitrust exemption, the league couldn’t say to the networks, “You buy a package of our games and we decide which games you get.” Instead, the networks would do business directly with the teams, like NBC does with Notre Dame.

There would be a Cowboys package and, at the other end of the spectrum, a package for the least interesting team. It would potentially result in fewer total dollars, and it would test the limits of the willingness of the owners to continue to share revenues.

If/when the NFL were to decide to take the Super Bowl away from the people, why wouldn’t Congress react by stripping the NFL of its broadcast antitrust exemption?

There’s another reason for the NFL to shy away from chasing PPV dollars. If the league charges $100 or whatever to watch the Super Bowl, there’s no way 100 million people will tune in. And that’s huge for the NFL. It justifies a large chunk of the billions the networks pay.

That said, the NFL for the first time has sent a major prime-time package to, essentially, a PPV platform, with Thursday Night Football on Amazon Prime. And if only 25 million people pay $100 each for the Super Bowl, that’s $2.5 billion in revenue. From one game.

At a certain point, the revenue outweighs the consequences. At a certain point, a league obsessed with making as much money as possible will have to at least consider the pros and cons of making the ultimate direct-to-consumer cash grab.

Maybe if they did, the playing surface for the Super Bowl wouldn’t be as shitty as it was five days ago.
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Their greed knows no bounds.

They abuse taxpayer funds to build their playgrounds, and then they want to screw fans even more with this nonsense? Absolutely disgusting.

If/when the SB becomes pay-per-view is when I'm out of being an NFL fan. Maybe I'll just morph into one of those old-timers that enjoys HS football because they are truly playing for the love of the game and competitiveness.
 
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He's probably implementing it to break Wilson so he has a reason to jettison him from the roster. Several source said he took the job "in spite of" Russell Wilson. I think he'll give the QB a year to prove himself, but all bets are off after that. I doubt he's willing to ruin his legacy with a mediocre player obsessed over his own image.
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Wilson's dead cap numbers for the next three seasons..

2023 - $107M
2024 - $85M
2025 - $49.6M

There really is no Denver Broncos 'in spite of' Russ for the foreseeable future.
 
Reich is building a solid coaching staff in Carolina. One perk of having previous HC experience I guess. Caldwell was an important hire in particular. Previous HC with successful experience though may be more of a consultant than full time coach like his Dolphins tenure due to age/health?

Thomas Brown and Deuce Staley are ascending young coaches/former players. We’ll get to see what Easterby may have saw in Mccown when he gets his hands on the Panthers new QB.

And on the defensive side got Ejiro Evero who interviewed for Texans HC job this cycle and had a solid unit in Denver last season.

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Panthers announce the hiring of Thomas Brown as offensive coordinator

The Panthers have made the hiring of Thomas Brown official.
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CloakNNNdagger said:
Eric Bieniemy has finally interviewed and has won a new position.............not as HC, but as a sideways move to OC..............for the chaos-riddled Washington Commanders. Perfect marriage! Two entities unlikely to see success anytime soon.
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Trying to figure out how someone can characterize an OC for a 2 time Super Bowl champion as someone not likely to see success?

Maybe Bieniemy can light a fire under Carson Wentz? No one else has been able to.
 
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Trying to figure out how someone can characterize an OC for a 2 time Super Bowl champion as someone not likely to see success?

Maybe Bieniemy can light a fire under Carson Wentz? No one else has been able to.
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Having grown up in KC and having maintained contacts in the Chiefs organization, this is the information that I have received. Besides poor interviewing, playcalling (as much as it's been debated) has not been under his pervue independently............he has definitely been involved in game planning, but actual decision-making with in-game playcalling has been Reid's. Furthermore, there has been great concern that if Bieniemy were to be turned loose without his uber-elite offensive cast, he would not be able handle the responsibility to a successful end.
 
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Rather than what you hear, what is it that you see? A guy that's been in the organization for a decade and has been a part of turning everything around. Why would Reid keep a guy around for 10 years if he's dragging the team down?

A guy can be around for too long. And Bieniemy probably is at the point of needing to blaze his own trail. Reid assistants have had a mixed bag of success after leaving his supervision. But Bieniemy's influence in the running game is unquestioned. 8th in the league with 7th round rookie leading the way. So he's gotten production without elite talent. And his fiery temperament could very well be the spark to get the moribund Washington offense out of the dregs.

Sometimes it's better to use your eyes rather than your ears.
 
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Lucky said:
Rather than what you hear, what is it that you see? A guy that's been in the organization for a decade and has been a part of turning everything around. Why would Reid keep a guy around for 10 years if he's dragging the team down?

A guy can be around for too long. And Bieniemy probably is at the point of needing to blaze his own trail. Reid assistant's have had a mixed bag of success after leaving his supervision. But Bieniemy's influence in the running game is unquestioned. 8th in the league with 7th round rookie leading the way. So he's gotten production without elite talent. And his fiery temperament could very well be the spark to get the moribund Washington offense out of the dregs.

Sometimes it's better to use your eyes rather than your ears.
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Bieniemy has been in the 'running' for head coach several years now. Bypassed every time.

Maybe this move will free up any doubts about him, or reinforce them. idonno:
I wish him success. Especially in their division. :D

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Lucky said:
Trying to figure out how someone can characterize an OC for a 2 time Super Bowl champion as someone not likely to see success?

Maybe Bieniemy can light a fire under Carson Wentz? No one else has been able to.
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Besides stake his own claim, he may be there to guide Sam Howell. Wentz will need to redo his contract if he wants to stay around, the Commanders can cut him and save $26M with no dead money.
 
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