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Moulds Trade Official

Señor Stan said:
Didn't someone from the Chronic claim the Texans were going to take a receiver with their 2nd round pick? This trade will definately put that to rest.
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John McClain said that if the Texans weren't able to land Moulds, that we would probably take a WR with the 2nd round pick. Now that this deal has taken place, or assuming it will, it's no longer a position of need.
 
Thats how id like to see it as well michaelm. Something like:

Ashton Youboty
Daryn Colledge
Cedric Griffen

or

Richard Marshall
Daryn Colledge
Will Blackmon

or

Donte Whitner
Daryn Colledge
Darnell Bing

or

Tye Hill
Daryn Colledge
DeMario Minter

or any combination of those.
 
O.G. is gonna be a legend from now on in the Texans message board community. Anytime somebody mentions his name it'll have "And the starter of the longest thread in Texans Bull Pen History". Lucky you :highfive:
 
Grid said:
I think Moulds would be a lock as our #2 receiver. He still commands a double team in Buffalo.. and that is what we need..someone who can take pressure off of AJ.
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Sorry guys, I wasn't clear, I meant he was the 3rd or 4th target receiver by our scouting department in free agency. He's going to be a starter no doubt.
 
dont know if this is old but....

Bills | Team close to trading Moulds
Thu, 30 Mar 2006 20:00:18 -0800

Megan Manfull, of the Houston Chronicle, reports the Houston Texans are close to finalizing a trade that will land them Buffalo Bills WR Eric Moulds. The Texans have agreed to pay Moulds $14 million over four years, in a deal that includes a $5 million signing bonus. All that is left now is for the Texans to work out trade compensation with the Bills. The Texans are offering a fifth-round draft pick. The Bills are asking for a fourth-round pick.


Texans | Team close to landing Moulds
Thu, 30 Mar 2006 19:55:30 -0800

Megan Manfull, of the Houston Chronicle, reports the Houston Texans are close to finalizing a trade that will land them Buffalo Bills WR Eric Moulds. The Texans have agreed to pay Moulds $14 million over four years, in a deal that includes a $5 million signing bonus. All that is left now is for the Texans to work out trade compensation with the Bills. The Texans are offering a fifth-round draft pick. The Bills are asking for a fourth-round pick. Moulds will arrive in Houston Monday, April 3, to meet with Texans officials. He is slated to become the Texans' No. 2 receiver and start opposite WR Andre Johnson. Agent Greg Johnson and Texans general manager Charley Casserly said no more progress will be made toward a deal until Monday, April 3.








so nothing happens til monday guys, take the weekend off, good job on the thread, lets all meet back here lets say monday round noon?
 
grid i agree with the majority of your combos there...daryn colledge would be the perfect fit for the new zone blocking scheme that kubiak is bringing in...there is just one problem...every interview i've read of colledge's mentions nothing about the texans...he says the teams most interested in him are the broncos, falcons, and cards...the texans however have been reported to have high interest in jonathan scott...he now will most likely be our 2nd round pick...unless jonathan joseph from south carolina drops to round 2...you know mcnair loves his gamecocks
 
I decided to get in on the longest thread in Texans message board history, so here I am. I definitely have to agree with what's been said so far, Moulds would challenge Andre to actually put forth a little effort to keep his number 1 receiver spot with another bona fide receiver in town. That would give 2 great receivers on opposite sides of the field, beginning to fit the mold of what works in the NFL nowadays and give our opponents fits. As far as the draft, what do you guys think the odds are that Michael Huff(SS, Texas)is available early 2nd round to shore up the secondary, a la Cowboys with Roy Williams? I think adding Huff to the secondary with Dunta and P-Buc would take pressure off of those guys to play as close to the line in run coverage and focus more on the passing game, which was an issue with Buchanon last year. Well, that's all i got for now, good thread so far fellas, keep it up.
 
Now we get to see once and for all that the skill positions can't do squat without a line. Maybe after this year we will finally use a high draft pick on a lineman.

Oh wait, we will blame Carr for not being able to throw the ball while lying on his back half-a-second after the ball's snapped. Then we'll waste our third #1 overall pick on a QB AGAIN and it will distract us from the real problem yet one more year. Every year we manage to find some excuse for not fixing our problem.
 
Huff's a top 10 pick most likely.

Can you think of a better duo of WR's in the NFL right now? Holt and Bruce maybe. That's the best I got off the top of my head.

Johnson and Moulds. Wow!! :woot2
 
Erratic Assassin said:
Now we get to see once and for all that the skill positions can't do squat without a line. Maybe after this year we will finally use a high draft pick on a lineman.

Oh wait, we will blame Carr for not being able to throw the ball while lying on his back half-a-second after the ball's snapped. Then we'll waste our third #1 overall pick on a QB AGAIN and it will distract us from the real problem yet one more year. Every year we manage to find some excuse for not fixing our problem.
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Lets get past the draft first shall we?
 
Erratic Assassin said:
Now we get to see once and for all that the skill positions can't do squat without a line. Maybe after this year we will finally use a high draft pick on a lineman.

Oh wait, we will blame Carr for not being able to throw the ball while lying on his back half-a-second after the ball's snapped. Then we'll waste our third #1 overall pick on a QB AGAIN and it will distract us from the real problem yet one more year. Every year we manage to find some excuse for not fixing our problem.
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Dude, go kick your dog or something.
You have to be a real pessimist not to be able to enjoy this offseason.
Sure, they haven't made a bunch of OL moves, but there should be improvement.
 
So we have a head coach and OC who know a thing or two about building quality O-lines calling the shots, one of the top free agent centers coming in, and 3 picks in the early 2nd and 3rd rounds to use (in part) on the O-line and people still are claiming that nothing's been done with the line?

That line's going to look quite nice next season. Especially when defenses have to fear the run and pass on every down.
 
Erratic Assassin said:
Now we get to see once and for all that the skill positions can't do squat without a line. Maybe after this year we will finally use a high draft pick on a lineman.

Oh wait, we will blame Carr for not being able to throw the ball while lying on his back half-a-second after the ball's snapped. Then we'll waste our third #1 overall pick on a QB AGAIN and it will distract us from the real problem yet one more year. Every year we manage to find some excuse for not fixing our problem.
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I would agree with all of that except that we have a new coaching staff and we just got Flanagan. Apparently, the coaches make all the trade and draft decisions on this team anyway, so now that Capers and Co. are gone things will be different. Time to let the anger go. They're right this time: Carr will have no excuses.
 
Make no mistake, I want Moulds, but I'm worried...It makes sense that part of the reason he wants out of Buffalo is that they have no real QB. Why would he want to come to a team in the Texans with an unproven signal caller (when he could be in Philly) unless the organization throws tons of money his way? Just have to wait and see...
 
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Moulds trade rumor called untrue

A report that the Eagles were one of two teams possibly closing in on a deal with the Buffalo Bills for wide receiver Eric Moulds is incorrect, a league source said yesterday.

ESPN.com reported that "the Texans and Eagles appear to have the lead, and both teams are expecting quick decisions." The league source said the Eagles have not had any trade discussions for Moulds.

WIP-AM (610) and the Houston Chronicle reported that the Texans had reached an agreement with Moulds on a new deal, and the league source said it was possible that Houston was close to making a trade with Buffalo for the receiver.

The Bills, after Moulds refused to rework the final year of his contract, gave the wide receiver permission to seek a trade. Eagles coach Andy Reid admitted interest in Moulds at the NFL owners meetings Wednesday, saying it was an issue the team was in the process of weighing.

Greg Johnson, a representative for Moulds, said he could not comment on the matter. Earlier in the week, Johnson told reporters that Moulds would prefer to play for the Eagles.
 
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Report: Moulds to sign with Texans

Eric Moulds' next NFL destination could be known soon.

A source close to the Buffalo receiver yesterday denied reports that he has agreed to contract terms with the Houston Texans, pending a trade. The Houston Chronicle, though, reported in today's editions that Moulds has indeed agreed to a 4-year, $14 million contract, and is expected to arrive there on Monday.

Yesterday, ESPN.com reported that the Texans and the Eagles were the front-runners to acquire the 10-year veteran, who caught 81 passes last season for 816 yards and four touchdowns. Moulds, who turns 33 in July, has been given permission to seek a trade by Buffalo, which wanted him to restructure his current contract for salary-cap reasons.

Greg Johnson, one of Moulds' agents, said earlier this week that Moulds' preference was to play for the Eagles. The Birds have seemed only mildly interested, however. On Wednesday, Eagles coach Andy Reid said the team was "kind of going through that evaluation process right now."

Eagles officials did not return calls last night.
 
Texans | Team close to landing Moulds
Thu, 30 Mar 2006 19:55:30 -0800

Megan Manfull, of the Houston Chronicle, reports the Houston Texans are close to finalizing a trade that will land them Buffalo Bills WR Eric Moulds. The Texans have agreed to pay Moulds $14 million over four years, in a deal that includes a $5 million signing bonus. All that is left now is for the Texans to work out trade compensation with the Bills. The Texans are offering a fifth-round draft pick. The Bills are asking for a fourth-round pick. Moulds will arrive in Houston Monday, April 3, to meet with Texans officials. He is slated to become the Texans' No. 2 receiver and start opposite WR Andre Johnson. Agent Greg Johnson and Texans general manager Charley Casserly said no more progress will be made toward a deal until Monday, April 3.
:yahoo: :drool: :ok: :yahoo:
 
whiskeyrbl said:
Texans | Team close to landing Moulds
Thu, 30 Mar 2006 19:55:30 -0800

Megan Manfull, of the Houston Chronicle, reports the Houston Texans are close to finalizing a trade that will land them Buffalo Bills WR Eric Moulds. The Texans have agreed to pay Moulds $14 million over four years, in a deal that includes a $5 million signing bonus. All that is left now is for the Texans to work out trade compensation with the Bills. The Texans are offering a fifth-round draft pick. The Bills are asking for a fourth-round pick. Moulds will arrive in Houston Monday, April 3, to meet with Texans officials. He is slated to become the Texans' No. 2 receiver and start opposite WR Andre Johnson. Agent Greg Johnson and Texans general manager Charley Casserly said no more progress will be made toward a deal until Monday, April 3.
:yahoo: :drool: :ok: :yahoo:
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Ok, so we gotta wait until Mon. Darn, I was hoping to have this done today!
 
4/14 and 5 is good, especially if they can make it a 5th rounder. Give me that over what Givens and Burleson got any day.

I've noticed, with only one real exception (Weaver), that the Texans aren't throwing the bosses money around like they have in the past. I wonder if Bob is giving the negotating team more 'help' this year in terms of cost control ...
 
Erratic Assassin said:
Now we get to see once and for all that the skill positions can't do squat without a line. Maybe after this year we will finally use a high draft pick on a lineman.
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Do the 33rd or 65th selections count as early, or does it have to be a first, or do you just like to complain?:crying:
 
If somehow, Winston or McNeil are there at 33 - you never know - or Scott at 65, problem partialy solved. Actually, if Youboty was there at 33 and Scott @ 65, that wouldn't piss me off either.

If you look at the Texans roster now, Tackle is probably the most pressing need with only a recovering Wade, Wand, and Pitts --- and Weigert (maybe) at the position.
 
aj. said:
If somehow, Winston or McNeil are there at 33 - you never know - or Scott at 65, problem partialy solved. Actually, if Youboty was there at 33 and Scott @ 65, that wouldn't piss me off either.

If you look at the Texans roster now, Tackle is probably the most pressing need with only a recovering Wade, Wand, and Pitts --- and Weigert (maybe) at the position.
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IMHFO, assuming we draft RB at #1 and given our FA moves, OT has got to be the most pressing need at #33 unless something insane happens like a stud CB.
 
Mr Shush said:
He'll never see that $7.1m - the Bills would cut him rather than pay it, and no other team would trade for him unless they had a new deal in place.
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The Texans have agreed to pay Moulds $14 million over four years in a deal that includes a $5 million signing bonus.

$14mil - $5mil(bonus)= $9 million/4yrs= $2.25 million

For 2006, Moulds will recieve $2.25 million(salary)+ $5 million(bonus)= $7.25 million.

I understand that Buffalo had no intention of paying him. But the magic number for Moulds is, and it always has been the $7.1 million he was scheduled to make. With all these low ball deals rumored to be offered to him, I was just saying I don't understand why Moulds would take those deals, especially when he just entered the FA market. It didn't make since. If I were Him, I'd rather be cut, than sign with the worst team in the NFC East, and the worst team in the AFC South, if I wasn't going to get my money. Especially after seeing Glenn get $20million over 5 years, and Givens get $24mil over 4 years. Heck, even looking at those numbers, it's hard to believe we've got him for $14mil over 4 years.... that is dirt cheap considering he was only slightly less productive than Glenn, and more productive than Givens.

I understand Givens is younger, but that is a lot of jack.... And Terrell got $24 mil over 3 years, or something like that, and he is the same age as Moulds.

The only way I believe that these numbers are believable, is because they work out to $7 million for 2006. I understand the Texans likes the 4 years to spread it out, but if I was Moulds, I would have been pretty firm on 3 years........ that's probably all he's going to play, and it'll bring his base up to $3 million.... only another $0.75 mill for the Texans and their cap. the bonus hit would go from $1.25 million a year to $1.6million.... Maybe there are some incentives in their, that aren't showing up yet.

Either way, I think it's a good deal... great, almost. I don't feel so bad about losing Gaffney. & I'm glad we passed on Givens, even thought they are both younger.
 
thunderkyss said:
Heck, even looking at those numbers, it's hard to believe we've got him for $14mil over 4 years.... that is dirt cheap considering he was only slightly less productive than Glenn, and more productive than Givens.
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Over the three year period Glen has been in Dallas, Moulds has been slightly less productive..... Over his career, he's actually been more productive.
 
thunderkyss said:
it's hard to believe we've got him for $14mil over 4 years.... that is dirt cheap considering he was only slightly less productive than Glenn, and more productive than Givens.

I understand Givens is younger, but that is a lot of jack.... And Terrell got $24 mil over 3 years, or something like that, and he is the same age as Moulds.
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The cost of living is much cheaper here than anywhere else and he will end his career with 4 yrs of single coverage.

I am geek!!!! :drool:

So who gets to wear #80?
 
If this works out, it helps the draft alot. It lets us use #33, #65,#66, and one of our 2nd day picks on depth at Oline. These moves help improve our protection morre than any #1 overall OT does. If we get Moulds, we dont need a #2 WR in the draft. Cowart and Kalu allow us to maybe pick up some later round steals at LB and DE, or wait for next year all together. Good offseason by the FO IMO. :twocents:
 
BREAZE said:
The cost of living is much cheaper here than anywhere else and he will end his career with 4 yrs of single coverage.

I am geek!!!! :drool:

So who gets to wear #80?
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Pretty sure AJ still gets 80. I think Moulds is 88.
 
Bills, Agent Trade Not Done
WGR Newsroom - Thursday, March 30, 2006 - 5:11 PM


Eric Moulds, for the time being, is still a Buffalo Bill. Reports that a contract extension between Moulds and the Texans has been reached are false, according to the agent for Moulds - Harry Henderson.

WGR Radio was also in touch with the Bills. Scott Berchtold, the club's vice president of communications, said reports of the trade are false.

Talks continue between the front runners for Moulds, Philadelphia and Houston, and a deal could be completed down the road

Here is the link... http://www.wgr550.com/fullstory.php?id=1484

Not sure what to make of it.
 
Grid said:
I think Moulds would be a lock as our #2 receiver. He still commands a double team in Buffalo.. and that is what we need..someone who can take pressure off of AJ.
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Grid I have been seeing this and not quite sure I understand. Can you elaborate on the pressure that AJ has had?
 
The Chronicle's article came out later than that one. Also, is Henderson the name of the agent? According to the Chronicle, Moulds' agent is Greg Johnson. Maybe Henderson is another rep?
 
aj. said:
4/14 and 5 is good, especially if they can make it a 5th rounder. Give me that over what Givens and Burleson got any day.

I've noticed, with only one real exception (Weaver), that the Texans aren't throwing the bosses money around like they have in the past. I wonder if Bob is giving the negotating team more 'help' this year in terms of cost control ...
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Agreed. It was strange to see Ferens name in print though a couple of days ago.
 
Can you elaborate on the pressure that AJ has had?
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I'm not Grid, but surely you've seen all the double coverage that AJ has had on him? I believe by adding a legit #2, (and from some perspectives) a contender for #1, we spread that coverage out and give our receivers more of an opportunity to be open. Or am I misunderstanding your question?
 
FirstTexansFan said:
I'm not Grid, but surely you've seen all the double coverage that AJ has had on him? I believe by adding a legit #2, (and from some perspectives) a contender for #1, we spread that coverage out and give our receivers more of an opportunity to be open. Or am I misunderstanding your question?
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I have not seen hardly any double coverage at the line over the course of his career. I have seen on occasions a Safety shading over to AJ. The problem with AJ is his drops and a feeble passing attack. I have not seen AJ have any problems with defenders at the line.

In theory having a #2 is good for a #1. I just do not think any defense has needed to double AJ because they had to repect our running attack. There is no question that this will not be a concern for the Texans moving forward.
 
chuckm said:
check out the avatars for these guys .... birdsfannum1 & mlm142
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Just checked it out. LOL..... only in Philly.

Looking at their board sure makes me glad that I'm on this one. Theirs isn't so user-friendly.
 
I posted last night (from KFFL.com) that the rumors of his signing were untrue...and one second after I posted it there was a NEW post at KFFL.com that said it was pretty much a done deal. A poster ragged me for it, saying I was "way behind" and didn't know what I was talking about.

Now I come here this morning and see that someone a few minutes ago has posted the same thing I posted last night.

I am ready for this whole ordeal to be over with so we can move on.

Have we ever had this kind of message board action for an old guy who wants to play for another team (Eagles) more than he does for us? I guess Pace might come close.
 
At first, I was like "Why do we have to wait until Monday? The Front Office too good to work on the weekends?!?!?" Then I realized that they will be spending most of the weekend with Reggie in Southern Cal.....Priorities,lol.:ok:
 
Assuming we get Moulds and Bush, can you imagine the freaking confusion the Texans will cause to opposing defenses w/Moulds,AJ,DD, and Bush all on the field? Not to mention a decent tight end...
Un-freaking-believable.
If this deal goes down, i'll be salivating until Aug/Sep. :drool:
 
As far as AJ getting pressured is concerned:

He had great concentration two years ago and was pulling down Carr's moon rocket passes...making unreal grabs in pressure situations.

Last year he had high expectations placed upon him and yet he didn't get off to a fast start, because our whole team was broken, and so he got frustrated and never regained his focus (Remember the Sunday night game when he basically erupted like Mt. St. Helens?).

The key to AJ getting in a groove is getting the ball to him early. Whether or not he is doubled is not the problem...it's getting him confidence early on so he stays focused and plays to his potential.
 
gpshafer_1976 said:
I posted last night (from KFFL.com) that the rumors of his signing were untrue...and one second after I posted it there was a NEW post at KFFL.com that said it was pretty much a done deal. A poster ragged me for it, saying I was "way behind" and didn't know what I was talking about.

Now I come here this morning and see that someone a few minutes ago has posted the same thing I posted last night.

I am ready for this whole ordeal to be over with so we can move on.
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...and that report dates from yesterday before the Chronic's report came out. Oh well, I'll let someone else worry about this. I'm gonna enjoy the weekend confident that Moulds is on board.
 
Frak The Jags said:
At first, I was like "Why do we have to wait until Monday? The Front Office too good to work on the weekends?!?!?" Then I realized that they will be spending most of the weekend with Reggie in Southern Cal.....Priorities,lol.:ok:
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I have this feeling that Buffalo is also giving time for Eagles to make a final play for Moulds. Or maybe it is not as a done deal as we have been lead to believe. Nothing is a "done deal" until all parties sign on the dotted line.

Only time will tell, which SUCKS!!!
 
I don't know, after getting burned by Beltran & Pace, I usually am all skiddish in believing it until it is over. That is until I read the Chronicle this morning. He really sounds excited about coming here. I believe the idea of possibly not being double covered every single play is a big part of it. I love the "He's excited about the possibility of them drafting Reggie Bush.":stirpot:
 
i think this offseason has been the best in franchise history with the possibility of the draft just adding to our talent...but i think the best part about it is how espn, the nfl network, and other big time sports media aren't talking about us...trust me this is a good thing...i maybe too optomistic but i'm predicting a huge turn around like what the san diego chargers did in 04 after drafting philip rivers...they made the playoffs that year after having the top pick in the draft...i see us a very similiar position...now that we have a coach who understands offense and that you have to build a team in both the free agency and the draft we have the talent i think to go far this year
 
jacquescas said:
so nothing happens til monday guys, take the weekend off, good job on the thread, lets all meet back here lets say monday round noon?
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Monday could be a great day indeed. I don't have to work. I'll be at Minute Maid watching the 'Stros start their World Series drive off with a win against the JV Marlins. And the Texans add Moulds, giving them 2 of the top 20 wideouts. I should play the lottery that day too.
 
Sportsfan said:
Assuming we get Moulds and Bush, can you imagine the freaking confusion the Texans will cause to opposing defenses w/Moulds,AJ,DD, and Bush all on the field? Not to mention a decent tight end...
Un-freaking-believable.
If this deal goes down, i'll be salivating until Aug/Sep. :drool:
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Well, with a Kubiak offense it would cause confusion. Imagine if the team still employed Capers.....

The Texans are lined up with Johnson and Mathis wide to the left. Moulds is wide right. Bush and Davis are in the backfield. Bush goes in motion to the right. Carr takes the snap. It's Davis over the tackle for 2 yards.
 
TexanBacker93 said:
Well, with a Kubiak offense it would cause confusion. Imagine if the team still employed Capers.....

The Texans are lined up with Johnson and Mathis wide to the left. Moulds is wide right. Bush and Davis are in the backfield. Bush goes in motion to the right. Carr takes the snap. It's Davis over the tackle for 2 yards.
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It's funny because it's true. :brickwall
 
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