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Moulds Trade Official

johnson will put up career numbers next to moulds. andre is much more talented than a guy like peerless price, and when peerless was lined up next to eric he had nearly 100 catches onne season.
 
GhostRaider2006 said:
I might have agreed with this if AJ was the type of player that displayed alot of ego but the fact is he dosen't really. Every time I have heard someone from the Chronicle, local TV news, and radio describe him the say he is laid back, shy, avoids attention and confrotation, and always does what is best for the team without arguement. Doesn't really scream ego does it. I think at this point anything is possible and as the season unfolds we will know what the players roles on this team will be.
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That is the reason I put "ego" in quotes because Externally he does not appear to have that ego and you want a guy that will do the best for the team, but if you are a professional WR in the NFL, you do not become a #1 WR without having an internal ego/competitive drive to be the best WR on the team. And for that reason you mentioned that he has done everything for the team and ask by the team he has proven he deserves that #1 spot.

He has drawn double and triple teams throughout most of his career especially after he made the probowl... beating out Moulds that year.

That is what I meant by ego and why you cannot do that to him. If he was a WR that dropped everything, did not run good routes, did not fight for extra yards, etc., then you would have an argument... but not now
 
whiterhino said:
johnson will put up career numbers next to moulds. andre is much more talented than a guy like peerless price, and when peerless was lined up next to eric he had nearly 100 catches onne season.
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With all the improvements this offseason, addition of moulds, walter, putzier, Flanagan, David has no excuses and AJ should have no problem getting 100 catches and I see Moulds getting between 60-70 as well.
 
I like the move by the Texans and that they really pursued him and Moulds even said he is excited to play alongside of AJ which is a good sign. It is like having 2 #1's on the field. I am glad we finally brought in a coach who wants to make changes and doesn't just keep the same team together and just move the pieces around. Go Battle Red. This should be a good year especially if we can get a good draft this year. :drool:
 
infantrycak said:
AJ had more yardage than Moulds even in his 1st two years in the league--2003 and 2004 and even though injured last year and getting only 75% as many receptions had more 1st downs. AJ isn't going to be taking 2nd fiddle to Moulds. This is a move to put a threat in to draw attention from AJ and have more playmakers, not to find a better #1--not that it really matters as both with be on the field 99% of the time.
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Very good point. AJ is definately the #1 guy, and rightfully so. Moulds is a very talented veteran receiver who'll give us a reliable target. He'll run clean routes, and most importantly he'll help pull coverage off of AJ. You won't see teams slide coverage over to AJ's side of the field as often because Moulds will be a legitimate threat as the #2. If AJ remains healthy, and the team buys into Kubiak's scheme I think we'll see AJ have a phenomenal year. Just look at what Lee Evans was able to do alongside Moulds in his first two seasons in the NFL.

Lee Evans
2004 48 catches 843 yards 9 TDs 17.6 yd/avg
2005 48 catches 743 yards 7 TDs 15.5 yd/avg
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Lee Evans, 5'10 and 195, is a classic speedster type WR. He stretches the field, and is in no way the same kind of physical freak of nature that AJ is at 6'3" and 220. That's not meant to take anything away from Evans as he is still very talented & will be very successful in this league, but AJ has the same kind of speed as Evans to go along with his tremendous strength & ability to break tackles for more YAC. Thats not even accounting for his leaping ability or his height which help to make him tough to cover around the redzone. I think we could see AJ put up TO or Moss type numbers next season if our offense is clicking. Something like 80+ catches for 1300+yards and 10+ TDs. The thought of those type of numbers being possible make me even more excited for the upcoming season.
 
TexanFan881 said:
AJ and Moulds will be heavily covered and then you throw Mathis in slot and he will outrun everyone and be wide open. With AJ and Moulds, whoever lines up in the slot will be very effective also. I think with AJ and Moulds, Putzier will be in the top 5 in TE catches. He will have barely any attention focused on him. I do have confidence in David Carr, but I think he's the only way this offense could not be as capable as it could be. He's showed sparks of a strong, good QB though throughout his career and with names like Reggie Bush, Dominick Davis, Andre Johnson, Eric Moulds, and Jeb Putzier as targets, I think he will shine next year. I would be suprised if we are not a top 10 ranked offense next year.
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mathis is not going to be in the slot. That is will be Walter's place.
 
Moulds biggest weapon he brings to the Texans is going to be his reputation for being a solid WR. Him on the field is going to free up AJ. One of the best off-season signings to me. This could really help this team move forward.
 
rmartin65 said:
This is going to be great! AJ, Moulds, Walter, Mathis and Armstrong. Scary recieving corp right there.
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So we replace Bradford with Moulds and Gaffney with Walter.

Nice job. The Eagles got rid of T.O. and replaced him with Jabar Gaffney.

Now I know why Eagles fans are so irate. I've been reading their message board and they have few nice things to say. I look forward to their visit.
 
Here is Manfull's chronicle piece.

http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/sports/3760975.html

I would say be careful. Sounds like the agent is trying to hijack the trade. Moulds seems to be excited, but is the agent? I hope we are not looking at another Pace adventure. Our big plus is perhaps Mom's going to have some influence.

I think Moulds is a big piece to the puzzle and he is seeing the changes the Texans have made. We aren't making a big splash on ESPN, but I'm getting the feeling they are starting to take notice. We are going to be in the hunt may be this year, but certainly by next year.

A physical is also required. Perhaps there might be a health issue, but he's suppose to be one of those guys who is always in tip top shape. He should fit in well with Kubiak and Kubiak's work ethic. Again we just really have a lot to be excited about this coming season. I really think its going to be special. We will just have to wait and see.
 
http://www.buffalonews.com/editorial/20060331/1025338.asp

Here is a story from the Buffalo News...

Moulds may head to Texans
By MARK GAUGHAN
News Sports Reporter
3/31/2006

Eric Moulds got one foot out the door of the Buffalo Bills' organization Friday but his departure is not likely to be finalized until early next week.
Moulds reached an agreement Thursday on the framework of a contract with the Houston Texans, sources in Houston told The News. That's only half of the process, however. Houston still must get the Bills to agree on the compensation they will pay to finalize the trade.

No completion of the deal was expected until Monday at the earliest. The Texans have the No. 1 pick in the NFL draft, and their top football executives all are heading to Los Angeles this weekend for the pro-day workout at the University of Southern California on Sunday. Southern Cal running back Reggie Bush is the favorite to be Houston's No. 1 pick.

The trade could fall through if the Bills and Texans can't agree on payment. It's believed the Bills are seeking a fourth-round draft pick, and the Texans are offering a fifth. The Bills currently have nine picks in the draft. They have an extra third-rounder from last year's Travis Henry trade and an extra seventh-rounder, which is a compensatory pick for last year's free-agent losses.

The parameters of Moulds' deal with Houston are four years and roughly $14 million, with a signing bonus of $5 million, according to the Houston Chronicle.

Moulds' New Orleans-based representative, Greg Johnson, declined to comment on the terms and said the contract was not finalized. However, he said, "I feel like we're close enough to where I'd be shocked if there was a deal-breaker (on the contract)." Moulds is taking up $10.8 million in cap space on the Bills' books. He is due to receive $7.1 million in cash from the Bills this year. The Bills offered him a contract that included a pay cut that would have allowed him to finish his career in Buffalo. However, after 10 seasons that saw him play under four head coaches, six offensive coordinators and nine starting quarterbacks, Moulds is eager for a fresh start somewhere else.

Philadelphia also was interested in Moulds, but the Eagles apparently were not willing to come close to Houston's contract terms.
The Texans were 2-14 last season. The Bills' pass offense ranked 29th, 27th and 28th the past three years. Houston's ranked 30th, 18th and 29th.

However, Johnson said he sees a lot of upside in the Texans.

"That offense has the potential to explode," Johnson said. "The No. 1 thing Eric truly believes is he can go there and help them win. He would play opposite a Pro Bowl receiver in Andre Johnson. The geographic thing doesn't hurt. He will be close to home (in Mississippi) and more friends and family can watch. And we think they will pay fair-market value."

The Bills would save $5.5 million against the cap by getting rid of Moulds. He still would count $5.3 million on this year's books. The Bills are about $9 million under the cap, not counting the Moulds savings, according to News estimates.

Moulds ranks second in Bills history in both catches (675) and yards (9,096).

The seeds for Moulds' contract impasse were set last March, when he restructured his contract and extended it a year, through 2007. Both Moulds and the Bills knew at the time that his cap number would be too high this year and they would have to go back to the bargaining table this offseason if he was going to remain a Bill.
 
Great post from the Buffalo News (above).

Anyone know true $$ and years the Eagles were offering? Also, how does our offer breakdown, Signing bonus + cap dollars?
 
Then found this on ESPN:

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=2391714&name=FPT-2391714-033116&srvc=sz

Sources: Texans, Moulds close to deal

By Len Pasquarelli
ESPN.com

The Houston Texans appear only days away from addressing a longtime priority, acquiring a veteran wide receiver to complement the skills of emerging star Andre Johnson, and of adding another proven target for beleaguered quarterback David Carr.

Sources confirmed that the Texans have reached an agreement in principle with Buffalo Bills wide receiver Eric Moulds on a four-year contract believed to be worth $14 million. The agreement, first reported by The Houston Chronicle, is said to include a $5 million signing bonus. The deal is believed to be similar to the four-year, $14 million contract that free agent Keyshawn Johnson signed with Carolina last week.

Before the Texans acquire Moulds, however, they must first strike a deal with Bills officials. Buffalo is said to be seeking a fourth-round choice in exchange for Moulds, who twice rejected overtures to readjust his contact so he could stay with the Bills. Houston is believed to have offered a fifth-round choice in the 2006 draft as compensation for the 10-year veteran.

Moulds, 32, is scheduled to arrive in Houston on Monday to visit with Texans coaches and officials. No deal will be consummated before that visit. Earlier in the free agency period, the Texans ardently courted David Givens of New England, but the Houston native signed with the Tennessee Titans.

There were some other suitors for Moulds, who last week was granted permission by the Bills to seek out trade possibilities, but none were as aggressive as the Texans. And many of the franchises cited as having interest in Moulds, notably the Philadelphia Eagles, never got involved in substantive discussions. Talks with the Eagles were initiated by Moulds' agent, and were relatively one-sided.

Under first-year head coach Gary Kubiak, whose offensive expertise is well documented, the Texans hope to upgrade a passing attack that statistically ranked 30th in the league in 2005. The Texans' passing game has never rated higher than No. 18 and was in the bottom four in the league in three of four seasons.

The addition of Moulds would provide Carr the most accomplished No. 2 receiver he has ever had, and would alleviate some of the pressure on Johnson, the team's best playmaker. Houston is expected to make Southern California tailback and Heisman Trophy winner Reggie Bush the top overall selection in next month's draft, and his presence as a threat out of the backfield should also aid the passing game.

A first-round choice in the 1996 draft, Moulds has 675 receptions for 9,096 yards and 48 touchdowns in 154 regular-season appearances. In his eight seasons as a starter with the Bills, the former Mississippi State star averaged 78.3 receptions, 1,065.4 yards and 5.8 touchdown catches.
 
el toro said:
This thread will set a record for most duplicate articles posted.
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yeah and somehow i guess you can't blame someone for not going through all the pages....but some of this stuff is like....1 page back.
 
the 610 guys just asked John McClain if there was anything that could go wrong with this deal ... his answer was no ... FWIW
 
man as long as this deal gets done i'll be happy...i'm sorry but i don't think the draft compensation should be that big of a deal...it's a day two pick for a starting receiver with the talent we've never had here...by the way if anyone wants the pic to my new avatar it's on www.draftstudio.com a couple of people askin for it so there's the website
 
JAXwithanX said:
yeah and somehow i guess you can't blame someone for not going through all the pages....but some of this stuff is like....1 page back.
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i logged on 2 hours ago-i hadnt visited since early yesterday- but hell i said id go through the whole thread(25 ish pages)..
remember some1 posting 'i wonder will we get 1000 replies'..well we did

anyway enough patting myself on the back...i still dont feel confident enough to post that moulds will be a texan...but i feel its an 80/20 situation in our favour..would be an excellent signing if it happens

If the eagles somehow hi-jack this..you know every VY fan will be..'look at what reggie did, if we had drafted VY we'd have gotten moulds aswell' lol

PS..dont turn this into a VY/reggie thing...it was just a mildly humorous observation
 
ESPN is finally reporting stuff today starting with the HotList. Nice to see I hadn't really heard any sports stations talk about it until now.
 
Sportsfan said:
Seems to me like the deal is done. Just some formalities to be done and an 'Official' announcement.
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I would not be so sure, I think his agent may hijack this deal. It does not seem like his agent (whom gets the % of the contract money) has been involved as much as any other negotiations I have seen in the past. I think he knows if Moulds get cut June 1st, there will be 6-8 teams in a bidding war to get him and will get about 4-5MM a year without the signing bonus. If an agent get average 3%, that would mean about an extra $100,000 plus for his agent. Hmmm you don't think he has interest in this. I think he knows Moulds will get out either way, I also think he know he will be able to find him a home either way. This sucks!!!

If this was a dine deal and they have been so agreesive to get him, I have to think he would have been out here now to get his physical... There is more going on that we know.
 
Bearfan Blue and Orange said:
I would not be so sure, I think his agent may hijack this deal. It does not seem like his agent (whom gets the % of the contract money) has been involved as much as any other negotiations I have seen in the past. I think he knows if Moulds get cut June 1st, there will be 6-8 teams in a bidding war to get him and will get about 4-5MM a year without the signing bonus. If an agent get average 3%, that would mean about an extra $100,000 plus for his agent. Hmmm you don't think he has interest in this. I think he knows Moulds will get out either way, I also think he know he will be able to find him a home either way. This sucks!!!

If this was a dine deal and they have been so agreesive to get him, I have to think he would have been out here now to get his physical... There is more going on that we know.
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As usual, you are all wet. The Texans have a deal with the agent and Moulds. That part is done. Their is a verbal agreement. The holdup is the compensation to the Bills. Nothing is official until we agree with the Bills on compensation. The additional holdup is that virtually the entire organization will be at USC tomorrow and Sunday, which is why Moulds will be here Monday to take his physical. He is done deal as far as agreeing to terms. The agent will not pull the rug out. If it doesn't work out, it will only be because the Bills won't accept our trade offer. I sometimes wonder where you get your takes, cause they often seem to come out of left field.
 
Update:

Heard it on the ESPN Ticker here in Dallas...

The Houston Texans have agreed in principle with WR Eric Moulds.

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Same ol' news, but it's getting closer to being true - despite all the allegations of it being false.
 
There are now 2 posts in this thread that talk about how other posts in this thread talk about how many posts are in this thread. :)
 
Nothing much to add other than ESPN 560 in Denver says we have an agreement in principal with Moulds and are working on the Bills end of it. Just more confirmation is all.
 
Should I go hot on the ham & chz or cold?

Just wanted to get the count up, it's slowing down.

Any realators out there know anything about Moulds house hunting??
 
swtbound07 said:
I just caught the end of the espn ticker...it said something about texans and bills agreeing to trade. Shrugs
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what you missed is that the Texans and E. Moulds have agreed on a 4 year deal, contigent on the Bills and Texans agreeing to a trade.
 
We have to give the Bills a bone. I say we just send them an autographed Eric Moulds Texans jersey. :)

While we're at it, let's send one to the Eagles to. :ok:
 
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