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Moulds Trade Official

From today's Phily News blogspot...

The Eagles and Eric Moulds' agent are also involved in some kind of dance. On WIP-AM last night, Greg Johnson said he talked with team president Joe Banner three times yesterday. "The sense that I get is that there is major interest on both parts," Johnson said. "Because of that, I believe that a deal can be worked out." Most observers suspect the Eagles will probably wait for Buffalo to cut Moulds, so there's no draft pick to pay and no pricey contract to assume. But I have this feeling ... Moulds says he wants to play here. The Texans are also pursuing him. And while Moulds' price may still be too high ($5 million a year for three years, reports say), that's getting into the right neighborhood. So is Buffalo's alleged request for a fourth-round pick. Remember, two years ago the Eagles pursued a trade to get another wide receiver (Terrell Owens) and had worked out contract details when Baltimore forged its own deal. If the Eagles were willing to trade then, why not again? When it wants to, the Eagles front office can get things done. The other top-receiver option would be to trade for Javon Walker, but Green Bay might hold the line and keep him.

http://earlyword.blogspot.com/
 
stevo3883 said:
Eric Moulds is just as big an upgrade over our receivers as Pace was over our lineman.

I think that is somewhat exaggerated though I agree that he could prove a substantial upgrade. Just odd to see so many posts in a single thread over a 10 year vet who has played a solid but relatively unspectacular career to this point, or is he better than I am giving him credit for?

I dunno, I would love to see a legit #2 across from Andre, but I guess I feel we have a young core with a lot of potential, so I am not as hot to get Moulds as a lot of people are, especially top dollar for a ten year vet. This is not one of those things I feel very strongly about either way, just an observation, that's all.
 
jerek said:
I think that is somewhat exaggerated though I agree that he could prove a substantial upgrade. Just odd to see so many posts in a single thread over a 10 year vet who has played a solid but relatively unspectacular career to this point, or is he better than I am giving him credit for?

I dunno, I would love to see a legit #2 across from Andre, but I guess I feel we have a young core with a lot of potential, so I am not as hot to get Moulds as a lot of people are, especially top dollar for a ten year vet. This is not one of those things I feel very strongly about either way, just an observation, that's all.

Moulds excites me because he was highly successfull in tandem with peerless price, and kubiak said he would fit the system well. Im not sold on the potential of walter, and mathis isnt a #2. Moulds plus andre=dynamic.
 
Well for those hoping Javon Walker would go to the Eagles, leaving Moulds for as...atleast as a possibility, sorry.

Packers | Team will not trade J. Walker
Tue, 28 Mar 2006 12:11:26 -0800

ESPNews reports the Green Bay Packers will not trade WR Javon Walker.
 
dat_boy_yec said:
I wonder what it would be like if we didn't get Moulds and made a run at J. Walker. You think it would get a bigger thread?

On ESPNews they said they'd need a lot of picks to get rid of him so it would be pretty big and I for one would be mad.
 
jerek said:
I think that is somewhat exaggerated though I agree that he could prove a substantial upgrade. Just odd to see so many posts in a single thread over a 10 year vet who has played a solid but relatively unspectacular career to this point, or is he better than I am giving him credit for?

.

you definitely aren't giving him enough credit.

hes a multiple pro-bowler, who had 81 catches last year from JP freakin Losman.

he didnt do much as a rookie or the year after. but since then hes had 625 receptions for 8500 yards in 8 seasons.
 
It definitely seems like Moulds wants to go to the Eagles. Hopefully the Texans don't waste too much time on him if that's the case.
 
TexanFan881 said:
On ESPNews they said they'd need a lot of picks to get rid of him so it would be pretty big and I for one would be mad.

Maybe, but how much leverage to the Packers hold considering he has put his house up for sell and made it clear he won't play for them next season. Packers should be happy with what compensation they can get before they loose him the way we lost Sharper last yr. and Philly lost T.O. this yr.
 
Eric Moulds: Deal Could Come Soon

RotoWire.com Staff - RotoWire.com

Tuesday, March 28, 2006

Update: Moulds' advisor, Greg Johnson, said that the Texans and Eagles are moving quickly to strike a deal with the Bills to land Moulds, the Providence Journal reports.

Recommendation: Johnson added that he expect to get a deal done for the wideout within the next 48 hours.
 
Texans34Life said:
Eric Moulds: Deal Could Come Soon

RotoWire.com Staff - RotoWire.com

Tuesday, March 28, 2006

Update: Moulds' advisor, Greg Johnson, said that the Texans and Eagles are moving quickly to strike a deal with the Bills to land Moulds, the Providence Journal reports.

Recommendation: Johnson added that he expect to get a deal done for the wideout within the next 48 hours.

i guess we'll find out soon
 
Texans34Life said:
Eric Moulds: Deal Could Come Soon

RotoWire.com Staff - RotoWire.com

Tuesday, March 28, 2006

Update: Moulds' advisor, Greg Johnson, said that the Texans and Eagles are moving quickly to strike a deal with the Bills to land Moulds, the Providence Journal reports.

Recommendation: Johnson added that he expect to get a deal done for the wideout within the next 48 hours.

That makes me excited for the mere fact that he could be a Texan. So this is what I'm thinkin'...AJ, Moulds, Walter, Armstrong/Mathis, that'll be a nice little core of WRs...JM:twocents:
 
bigTEXan8 said:
That makes me excited for the mere fact that he could be a Texan. So this is what I'm thinkin'...AJ, Moulds, Walter, Armstrong/Mathis, that'll be a nice little core of WRs...JM:twocents:

Also,
Carr, DD, Bush and Putz. not a bad set of skill guys.
 
does anybody feel this is a bad indication of how things are going right now

Nah. When it comes to working out a contract first, it can be lengthy. Look how long it took for the Jets/Falcons John Abraham trade to finally happen. I like our chances:redtowel:
 
Maybe it's just me but if the Eagles are willing to pay anywhere near the asking price of 5 per, why in the world would he want to come here unless the Texans lose their minds with the coin? This appears to be a leverage deal on Moulds' agent's part. He's looking for a golden parachute and/or a sucker.

I'd love to have the guy here, but at the right price.
 
I would rather see us use Walters and Armstrong to earn the respect of the opposing defense. To me, a guy like Moulds would only blow up in our face much like the T.O issue but smaller scale. Moulds has always been a me-first kind of guy. We really need to focus on getting guys in here that have the team-first mentality. Just my :twocents:
 
Wolfiegrrl said:
I would rather see us use Walters and Armstrong to earn the respect of the opposing defense. To me, a guy like Moulds would only blow up in our face much like the T.O issue but smaller scale. Moulds has always been a me-first kind of guy. We really need to focus on getting guys in here that have the team-first mentality. Just my :twocents:

I have said a similiar thing to this earlier on this thread... I don't want a piece of an old disgruntled reciever... I have high hopes for Kevin Walter!!
 
As a non texan fan. Indy to be exact,i think Moulds would help out. But i dont see him fitting in the direction of you team. He would be a short term fix. You are building a nice offense with young players,i dont see Moulds as part of your rebuilding process. JMO
 
aj. said:
Maybe it's just me but if the Eagles are willing to pay anywhere near the asking price of 5 per, why in the world would he want to come here unless the Texans lose their minds with the coin? This appears to be a leverage deal on Moulds' agent's part. He's looking for a golden parachute and/or a sucker.

I'd love to have the guy here, but at the right price.


i was under the impression he doesn't have much of a choice. if the texans are offering a 4th and the eagles a 5th, I'm pretty sure he's ours no question.
 
Moulds is the one trying to swing the trade before he gets released... part of any trade deal that is sorted out will be Moulds getting a new contract.. No on is going to pay him S7.1m.... so it is pretty much entirely his call.
 
stevo3883 said:
i was under the impression he doesn't have much of a choice. if the texans are offering a 4th and the eagles a 5th, I'm pretty sure he's ours no question.

he may have some type of no trade clause. sounds like he is the one deciding where to go.
 
kiwitexansfan said:
Moulds is the one trying to swing the trade before he gets released... part of any trade deal that is sorted out will be Moulds getting a new contract.. No on is going to pay him S7.1m.... so it is pretty much entirely his call.

i understand that, but if we're offering a 4th & the eagles a 5th, and we're both offering around the same cash, why would the bills choose to trade him for a lower return?
 
We need some veteren leadership in the WR dept. I really hope we land Moulds. Our offense will be amazing next year. Almost TOO much talent (assuming we have Bush)
 
O.G. said:
I would also believe that in Philly there will be greater expectations for Moulds to come in an succeed much in the same retrospect as TO did. 90 catches, 1100-1200 yds with 9 TD's. Plus, Philly's fan bases is alittle less forgiving if he doesn't meet those expectations.

I'd bet guys like T.O., and hopefully Moulds could care less about what the fans expect..... not in a bad way. They are driven to be the best, their gauge, is the $$ on the contract.

stevo3883 said:
exactly. we can have a guy with like 900 career receptions, or 19.

I admit, I'm not a big fan of Eric Moulds.... so I don't know what kind of guy he is. But, looking at a players past history, without knowing the guy, is about as risky as buying stock based on past history. From what I see, his production has been going down.... sure, Losman is a joke(my Opinion), but is he the kind of guy that corners fear?? Maybe, Kubiak sees something in Walter, to make him think his stock is on the rise.

stevo3883 said:
i was under the impression he doesn't have much of a choice. if the texans are offering a 4th and the eagles a 5th, I'm pretty sure he's ours no question.

That's right.... the Bills have control of where Moulds will play next year. I think it's a move in our best interest, to have a deal in place, before the actual trade goes down...... Remember T.O. & Baltimore two years back?? SF made the deal with the Ravens...... Terrell pitched a fit...... if Baltimore wanted to, they could have "forced" Terrell to play for them, he didn't have a choice....... Baltimore though thought it would be more of a headache, and dissolved their deal, opening the door for Philly.

IF, Eric and his Agent stall long enough 'till the Bills has to let him go, then their is going to be a bidding war I hope we don't get involved in. At least E.M. & his agent believe their will be a bidding war.

IMHO, I think we should force the issue, trade our #4 to get him. If he wants to pitch a fit, I'd hold him to that contract, and see what how Bad the Eagles want him.

If Kubes still wants this "established #2", a bad idea IMHO, then he should get Charley to flash our #1 GreenBays way. We give GB our #1, and a #4 next year. We get Jevon, their #1, their #3 this year, and their #3 next year.

TexansTrueFan said:
i will be happy if we get moulds but not dissapointed if we dont. He'd be nice to have but we can live without him IMO

Personally, I think we are wasting time & energy. I don't believe Moulds is so special, and I think if you give David time, he'll be able to find Armstrong & Mathis just as easily as he can find Moulds.
 
don't know if anyone has said this...but i don't know if we want moulds. he's going to want to be number one, no doubt about it. i think he and AJ might butt heads.....
 
stevo3883 said:
i understand that, but if we're offering a 4th & the eagles a 5th, and we're both offering around the same cash, why would the bills choose to trade him for a lower return?

nobody will trade for him under his current contract. therefore, the only way Buffalo can get anything from another team is if they reach a contract agreement with him first. In other words, we are willing to give Buffalo a pick for Moulds only after we agree with his agent on a contract... Only the one team he reaches an agreement with will offer anything in trade. Then, Buffalo's only decision is whether to do the trade or release him.
 
stevo3883 said:
i was under the impression he doesn't have much of a choice. if the texans are offering a 4th and the eagles a 5th, I'm pretty sure he's ours no question.

You're missing one small detail -- actually a big one (the new contract).

Moulds and his agent will follow the money. If the Texans offer a 4th to Buffalo, and a new three year deal to Moulds worth 15 million; while the Eagles offer a 5th to Buffalo, and a three year deal to Moulds worth 18 million, I'm sure that Moulds' agent will convince Buffalo that settling for a 5th instead of a 4th is a far cry better than the 7+ million that the Bills would have to pay him in a few months. Plus, a 5th rounder is better than nothing, which is exactly what the Bills would get for Moulds if they don't trade him and simply release him before his bonus is due.
 
aj. said:
You're missing one small detail -- actually a big one (the new contract).

Moulds and his agent will follow the money. If the Texans offer a 4th to Buffalo, and a new three year deal to Moulds worth 15 million; while the Eagles offer a 5th to Buffalo, and a three year deal to Moulds worth 18 million, I'm sure that Moulds' agent will convince Buffalo that settling for a 5th instead of a 4th is a far cry better than the 7+ million that the Bills would have to pay him in a few months. Plus, a 5th rounder is better than nothing, which is exactly what the Bills would get for Moulds if they don't trade him and simply release him before his bonus is due.

Nice point, the subtle nusances of getting a deal done and paying less.

I hope our Front Office takes advantage of similar situations when they present themselves.
 
johnny_tlmn said:
Moulds would be interested in playing for Houston, even though the Texans are coming off an NFL-worst 2-14 finish and haven't had a winning record in their five seasons.

Houston is close to Moulds' native Mississippi, which would allow his family to see him play more often. Moulds would complement a Texans offense that already has a solid receiver in Andre Johnson and has the opportunity to draft USC running back and Heisman Trophy winner Reggie Bush with the No. 1 pick in next month's draft.
From NFL.com

He's really wantin' to come? Or does Buffalo want our #4 pick or both what do ya'll say?! Screw it lets party.:party:

what kind of geography book are they using???

Mississippi is not that close to Houston at all.
 
Moulds had a reputation for causing a stink to be a #1 reciever in Buffalo. If he comes to Houston, he'll be a #2 again.

I'm guessing he'll be an Eagle by tomorrow evening.
 
[[Gary Kubiak]] said:
Okay then....Where is Jevon Walker at? Burleson still a FA? Fact is we need pressure off AJ? Rookie WR might have problems demanding extra attention from safeties. :stirpot:
How bout Price?
 
YoungTexanFan said:
what kind of geography book are they using???

Mississippi is not that close to Houston at all.


Well it is only 8 or 9 hours away and considering that he plays in Buffalo and the other candidates are Philly and New England. Mississippi is pretty close to Houston compared to the other cities.
 
[[Gary Kubiak]] said:
Okay then....Where is Jevon Walker at? Burleson still a FA? Fact is we need pressure off AJ? Rookie WR might have problems demanding extra attention from safeties. :stirpot:
Burleson sign an offer sheet with the Seahawks so he's gone and the Packers say they are not going to trade J. walker.
 
If Eric Moulds comes here, we have a 1A and a 1B and I don't think Andre can automatically claim 1A. Don't get me wrong, AJ is a freaking stud...but he still has to do it. Eric Moulds made that crap QB in Buff look decent. Having those two opposite sides will do nothing but help.

Kubes knows he needs a #2 - he NEEDS to get Moulds in here and let's end this thing.
 
what he does for AJ's numbers will be more than his impact. I could see 80 rec 800 yards and like 6 TDs but AJ would get freed up alot more.
 
I think they are stalling to see if Philly will match us on the offer. I dont know how much philly can offer him given they signed Darren howard to a crazy deal. Also i think weather more than distance is the reason Moulds mom could see him play in houston, at 5-6 mil a year you cant tell me he can't afford transportation for his family.

Anyhow No telling, Id be willing to bet he does not want to get released, because his value will go way down.

Javon Walker represented by Drew Rosenhaus... Need I say more? The Packers are not gonna be a great team anyway I could see them hold onto him out of sheer spite.
 
johnny_tlmn said:
And I imagine we'll get him, plain and simple, he'll help ol' AJ out a lot more than u people think so..really.:twocents:

Im sorry, the more I read, the more I am becoming discouraged that he will sign with the Feagles. I have not seen any updated news saying the Texans are even in his interests. If you read between the lines, I think this one is lost. Looks like we will find a number #2 in the draft. No harm in trying though. He would have been a nice addition.
 
I hope the Texans aren't having second thoughts about this. I would definately give up the 4th round pick for Moulds. Hell, I'd give up one of our 3rd round picks for him. He's much better than any player we're liable to get in either of those rounds. Moulds and AJ is a much, much, much better tandem than AJ and some rookie. I would be willing to overpay slightly for him. If he wants an Isaac Bruce contract, then give him 3 years $15 million. Give him 3 years $17 million, but get him!

I didn't think Moulds would want to come to Houston because I believed he still wanted to be a #1. Maybe he think's he'll be a #1, maybe he feels him and AJ are on the same level, whatever the case may be, but he is a more 2nd reciever than Bradford and Gaffney were combined. Get Moulds! Heck, hook him up with a cheerleader if that's the tipping point. Get him!
 
outofhnd said:
I think they are stalling to see if Philly will match us on the offer. I dont know how much philly can offer him given they signed Darren howard to a crazy deal. Also i think weather more than distance is the reason Moulds mom could see him play in houston, at 5-6 mil a year you cant tell me he can't afford transportation for his family.

Anyhow No telling, Id be willing to bet he does not want to get released, because his value will go way down.

Javon Walker represented by Drew Rosenhaus... Need I say more? The Packers are not gonna be a great team anyway I could see them hold onto him out of sheer spite.

Walker hired Rosenhuas in 2004. He later fired him after he got injured last year. He has a new agent now.
 
Was there anything new from Berman tonight. I missed the first part of his report and only caught the Rockets announcement of their replacement for Carol Dawson.
 
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