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Moulds Trade Official

WIP in Philadelphia is the radio station the orginized the bus trip to the draft to boo the Eagles pick if it was anyone but Ricky Williams. Turned out to be McNabb. I know of no one with any knowledge of sports up here that tunes in for anything other then laughs. Take it for what it is worth.
 
Buchannon's cap number comes strictly from salary. His bonus has to be paid by the team that trades him (which is why we can't just Trade off Wade's high salary). THerefore if Buchannon is cut by us, we take no dead money
 
D-ReK said:
Buchanon's cap number is somewhere in the 800k range, with around $6,000 of that counting as bonus money...We could cut him and only have to eat $6,000...
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Man, I'm hoping:
1) that's not true........ I don't know where I got it in my head, that his cap# was high.
2) Kubiak rates him higher than Faggins.Or maybe thinks he'll make a good FS, if we draft a corner.

gtexan02 said:
Buchannon's cap number comes strictly from salary. His bonus has to be paid by the team that trades him (which is why we can't just Trade off Wade's high salary). THerefore if Buchannon is cut by us, we take no dead money
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Ahh, I see.
 
I just got off the Eagles message board and nobody over there thinks that Eric Moulds and the Texans have a deal. They are saying the radio station WIP that reported this is a crappy radio station and this wouldn't be the 1st time they tried to break a story and it turned out to be false.
 
Frak The Jags said:
Nooooooooooooooooooooooooooo!!!
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Sorry, I just figured I would go over to the Eagles message board and see if they are flipping out and they have 1 thread on Moulds that was started on March 13th with a total of 342 replies. While we have a thread going on here with over 800 replies and they put no importance on the WIP report.

I would be provide the link but you have to registar and I did that last night around 9:30pm and just got my aproval link to get on the site.
 
http://www.philly.com/mld/dailynews/14219928.htm

Article by Rich Hoffman in the Philly Daily News today. The fans in Philly very mistrusting of the organization. I heard WIP this morning on the ride in to work. The comment was an offhanded remark by Angelo Cataldi. He said that it looks like they will be announcing that Moulds will be a Houston Texan. No sources. Just him venting. 610 kinda creates a environment of getting fans into a lather of frustration. Caltaldi is an entertainer, not a news man. He has admitted as much. He pushes people's buttons for ratings.

The pulse in Philly is that the Eagles will not get Moulds nor will they get Javon Walker. It is frustration. Not saying he won't be here, but just putting it into perspective.
 
texanfan2002114 said:
I just got off the Eagles message board and nobody over there thinks that Eric Moulds and the Texans have a deal. They are saying the radio station WIP that reported this is a crappy radio station and this wouldn't be the 1st time they tried to break a story and it turned out to be false.
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But to even things out a little bit the posters on that board attack all the sources of rumors they dont agree with no matter how reliable the source. This one in particular because they don't understand why Moulds would choose us over them. They have a real problem with him choosing us because the view us as a seriously inferior team. They keep saying why would he choose to play with Car when he can play with McNabb.
 
Some of their replies to a guy posting that he just heard from WIP that Moulds and tha Texans have a deal.

estasi
"Do you want my thoughts on whether you should believe anything you hear on that horse ish station, or my thoughts on Moulds possibly going to the Texans?"

WingsOfEagles
"My thoughts are that I would never waste even two seconds of my life listening to those twits on WIP. I think I just gave up too much of my time posting about them. They will never be more than a soap opera sports channel - kind of what ESPN has been trying to become recently."
 
GhostRaider2006 said:
But to even things out a little bit the posters on that board attack all the sources of rumors they dont agree with no matter how reliable the source. This one in particular because they don't understand why Moulds would choose us over them. They have a real problem with him choosing us because the view us as a seriously inferior team. They keep saying why would he choose to play with Carr when he can play with McNabb.
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They're wrong because for Moulds it is all about the coin. It could certainly be argued that the Eagles are not the primary Super Bowl contender in the NFC. Some think they'll have trouble in the NFC East, let alone compete for a Super Bowl. With or without Moulds, they has some holes to fill.

He caught 81 balls last year with Losman. He can and would catch at least that in Houston and probably more. He is in a "get out of Buffalo" mode right now. Anywhere is greener grass for Eric.
 
Yeah, if he's all about winning there are definitely better spots than Philly to land.

So the local Houston channel 2 was basing their report on the Philly radio jock's "venting"?
 
Johnny Utah said:
I think you're right.
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Moulds would not be driving up the price for the Eagles. The Texans will set the price. The Eagles will not go over it. There will be no bidding war between the two teams. This isn't the Orlando Pace scenario.
 
el toro said:
So the local Houston channel 2 was basing their report on the Philly radio jock's "venting"?
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Who knows they cited the philly source but they also said this: "Local 2 sports has been in contact with people close to the Eric Moulds negotiations with the Eagles." Now I don't know if it is true or not but it certainly implies they did some digging of their own. And this news affiliate (KPRC Channel 2 Houston) hasn't been known to put out false info ahead of time just in order to be the first to the scoop. So at this time I will remain cautiously optimstic aboout this.
 
While I appreciate the idea of a person trying to get a scoop and feed us some secretive news about Moulds, this thread should have been moved to another forum or even deleted.

What a colossal waste of time for all of us...800+ replies and thousands of views all because some shock jock in Philly is trying to get a rise out of his listeners. Looks like his name and fame are getting spread here in Texas, too.

Why wasn't this thread killed off when it became clear that this was more rumor than fact? Heck, it's not even a rumor. It's actually more like a backhanded comment about the Eagles organization.

Wake me up when Moulds signs somewhere.
 
coachdent said:
They're wrong because for Moulds it is all about the coin. It could certainly be argued that the Eagles are not the primary Super Bowl contender in the NFC. Some think they'll have trouble in the NFC East, let alone compete for a Super Bowl. With or without Moulds, they has some holes to fill.

He caught 81 balls last year with Losman. He can and would catch at least that in Houston and probably more. He is in a "get out of Buffalo" mode right now. Anywhere is greener grass for Eric.
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I totally agree. They can't seem to get a handle on the fact that the guy is about the money and not the ring right now and it is seriously pissing them off right now.
 
I get the feeling Houston is gonna get this one. Moulds is about the money and even if he was in a ring hunt Houston will get there before the Eagles do. :redtowel:
 
GhostRaider2006 said:
I totally agree. They can't seem to get a handle on the fact that the guy is about the money and not the ring right now and it is seriously pissing them off right now.
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At this point in Moulds career this will more than likely be his last contract. The money will be there, I do not think Philly is lowballing moulds as much as lowballing Buffalo with a 5th round pick.

If you ask any player in the NFL what they play for... To win a superbowl. I think in the short run Eagles have that chance, although I know if Kube keeps going in the same direction as now, Texans will be fighting there within 2-3 years.

Money is important to Moulds but I think a ring is just as big for him.

One thing that keeps getting to me...
if moulds is unhappy with his role in Buffalo sliding as it seems to #2 and not getting the attention on the field he would like, Why would he come to Houston to be the #2 and never be the #1 as long as AJ is here?? Especially if you look at Philly's WR core he could be the #1 there.

This just seems fishy to me...
 
with us supposedly outbidding the eagles remember deal probably will not be more than the deal they offered to givens being 5yrs and $18mill...is that overpaying a receiver of moulds talents i don't think so...he hasn't had any major injuries...it's been his frustration with the qb situation at buffalo and his lack of confidence in a qb that talks like a girl...i'm sorry but if ya'll have ever heard losman speak he has a very girly voice and it's hard to believe a football team can have confidence in a guy like that
 
At this point with the team I don't think that Moulds will be helping us to any Super Bowl run, but we NEED respect NOW. I would just love to see us get .500 or better.
 
gpshafer_1976 said:
While I appreciate the idea of a person trying to get a scoop and feed us some secretive news about Moulds, this thread should have been moved to another forum or even deleted.

What a colossal waste of time for all of us...800+ replies and thousands of views all because some shock jock in Philly is trying to get a rise out of his listeners. Looks like his name and fame are getting spread here in Texas, too.

Why wasn't this thread killed off when it became clear that this was more rumor than fact? Heck, it's not even a rumor. It's actually more like a backhanded comment about the Eagles organization.

Wake me up when Moulds signs somewhere.
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This is the same thred we have been viewing and posting on all week.

Only the name changed.
 
If you ask any player in the NFL what they play for... To win a superbowl. I think in the short run Eagles have that chance said:
With all of todays players the saying "I'm all about the ring" has almost become a cliche and basic self promoting and image marketing. I mean what do you expect them to say "I'm all about the money". If they do that they are just going to come off looking like a jackass.

One thing that keeps getting to me... if moulds is unhappy with his role in Buffalo sliding as it seems to #2 and not getting the attention on the field he would like said:
Here is the thing though we know AJ was the #1 on Cass's and Dom's team. But this is now Kubiac's team and pretty much everything is up in the air now whether we like it or not. We know with the current cast AJ is a #1. How do we know that Kubiac isn't promising this (the #1 reciever slot) to Moulds for the short term to get him to agree to a contract.
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Agreed with above. AJ may not necessarily be the number 1 guy on this team next season whether he is officially named that or not.

The other thing is that Moulds had some serious falling out with the team last year that went beyond his desire to get the ball, etc. And even though they changed coaches, it carries over, similarly to how we had to let go of Coleman and Walker.
 
Overalls said:
At this point with the team I don't think that Moulds will be helping us to any Super Bowl run, but we NEED respect NOW. I would just love to see us get .500 or better.
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Moulds just gets open, runs good routs, catches everything thrown at him, and can be counted on in clutch situations. Na. He can't help win division tittles, playsoffs, superbowls.

I will say it again, Carr, AJ, Moulds, DD, Bush, Putzier, Mathis as our burner punt and kickoff returner. I would match that up any day with Manning, Harrison, Wayne, Stockley, who's there running back? Don't have one!? Sucks to be them. Ha Ha.

Look out, Texans may suprise some people this year.

If the Bears can go 3-13 and then 12-4 with a division win, why not the Texans?
 
GhostRaider2006 said:
With all of todays players the saying "I'm all about the ring" has almost become a cliche and basic self promoting and image marketing. I mean what do you expect them to say "I'm all about the money". If they do that they are just going to come off looking like a jackass.



Here is the thing though we know AJ was the #1 in Cass's and Dom's team. But this is know Kubiac's team and pretty much everything is up in the air now whether we like it or not. We know with the current cast AJ is a #1. How do we know that Kubiac isn't promising this to Moulds for the short term to get him to agree to a contract.
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I think Kube is the type of coach that is straight forward and through the early workouts last week I am sure he talked about his gameplan and hmmm a young #1 Probowl WR not even in his prime with Much more talent than Moulds is going to be asked to step back for someone that is only going to be here for probably 2 years maybe 3? Common sense tells me otherwise.
 
TEXANRED said:
Moulds just gets open, runs good routs, catches everything thrown at him, and can be counted on in clutch situations. Na. He can't help win division tittles, playsoffs, superbowls.

I will say it again, Carr, AJ, Moulds, DD, Bush, Putzier, Mathis as our burner punt and kickoff returner. I would match that up any day with Manning, Harrison, Wayne, Stockley, who's there running back? Don't have one!? Sucks to be them. Ha Ha.

Look out, Texans may suprise some people this year.

If the Bears can go 3-13 and then 12-4 with a division win, why not the Texans?
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I agree why not if the Bears can... That is the beauty of free agency today. It gives the opportunity to strike lightning in a bottle. Kube has made great strides already with this offseason and adding moulds would be great. The next step is to draft quality players that can step in if one gets injured and not see a dropoff int talent. that is what the Patriots have done over the years. Not to mention not one individual takes the spotlight nor cares as they are playing for the bigger picture (Dynasty of superbowl wins)
 
Bearfan Blue and Orange said:
I think Kube is the type of coach that is straight forward and through the early workouts last week I am sure he talked about his gameplan and hmmm a young #1 Probowl WR not even in his prime with Much more talent than Moulds is going to be asked to step back for someone that is only going to be here for probably 2 years maybe 3? Common sense tells me otherwise.
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Well what else would he say. This is one of the most PR driven sports there is.
 
Bearfan Blue and Orange said:
I agree why not if the Bears can... That is the beauty of free agency today. It gives the opportunity to strike lightning in a bottle. Kube has made great strides already with this offseason and adding moulds would be great. The next step is to draft quality players that can step in if one gets injured and not see a dropoff int talent. that is what the Patriots have done over the years. Not to mention not one individual takes the spotlight nor cares as they are playing for the bigger picture (Dynasty of superbowl wins)
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Texans will make a great turnaround, with all the additions on the field and on the sidelines. The Bears got a little help with the NFC North a cupcake division this year. Titans made upgrades, Jags are still rising and the Colts are the Colts. 6 tough games just in the conference this year.
 
I won't go predicting a division title.

If however we draft Vince Young, we will not only win the division and the Superbowl, but also the FIFA World Cup, the World Series, and the NBA championships.

Afterall, Vince Young counted to infinity...twice. :superman:



(sorry, couldn't help myself) :brickwall
 
I think we would be willing to pay Moulds more than Givens. Moulds is a Proven Veteran. Where as I veiw Givens as a Real good WR and has great potential to develope into a Good # 1 WR. I see Moulds as a PROVEN # 1 WR. I don't think it matters who is named our # 1 WR both AJ & Moulds will get Plenty of balls thrown to them. If I was a defensive cooridinater which one would I double cover? Pick your Poison. Either one of these guys can BURN YOU!!!!
 
2 CENTS said:
I think we would be willing to pay Moulds more than Givens. Moulds is a Proven Veteran. Where as I veiw Givens as a Real good WR and has great potential to develope into a Good # 1 WR. I see Moulds as a PROVEN # 1 WR. I don't think it matters who is named our # 1 WR both AJ & Moulds will get Plenty of balls thrown to them. If I was a defensive cooridinater which one would I double cover? Pick your Poison. Either one of these guys can BURN YOU!!!!
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You're right. Moulds has proven to be a top notch starter while Givens has been a good a complimentary receiver in the New England system.
 
Moulds will require AT LEAST a top notch corner, and usually safety help, while Givens could probably be covered one on one. If nothing else, having Moulds will stop the safeties from blitzing so often!
 
Moulds Done Deal to Texans
Posted: March 29, 2006
Hi folks. Local 2 sports has been in contact with people close to the Eric Moulds negotiations with the Eagles. Late Wednesday afternoon The "WIP" sports radio station in Philly is reporting that Moulds and his agent have come to terms with the Texans on a contract extension. Now both the Texans and Bills are working out details on a trade that will get him to Houston.

More tonight on KPRC Local 2 Sports at 10


Randy Mc
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ESPN reports deal could come today

Talks between the Bills and two teams are heating up to a point that an Eric Moulds trade could happen as early as Thursday.

The Texans and Eagles appear to have the lead and both teams are expecting quick decisions.

Bills general manager Marv Levy has talked with Moulds and even though he wants him to take a pay cut and stay, he's willing to part ways with the wide receiver in a trade.

Moulds will have to restructure his contract for the new teams and that doesn't appear to be a problem. He will probably make about $8 million over the first two years of a new deal, similar to what Keyshawn Johnson received from the Carolina Panthers.

Moulds, a 10-year veteran and the Bills' senior player, has two years left on his contract, but was scheduled to count about $10.8 million against the salary cap next year. The Bills deem that figure too expensive but have failed in their bid to have the receiver restructure his contract.

Moulds, who is scheduled to make $7.1 million next season, has rejected the Bills' demands, believing there are other teams willing to match the salary. Buffalo would save about $5.5 million in salary cap space by releasing Moulds.

Moulds was Buffalo's first-round pick in the 1996 draft and has been a full-time starter since his third season. In 154 games, he has 675 catches for 9,096 yards and 48 touchdowns. Only Andre Reed has more catches (941) and yards (13,095) among Bills receivers.
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ESPN still seems to be of the opinion the Eagles are in this.
 
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