Kubiak wants immediate improvement

[Brando]

I was hoping as their 3rd stringer they cut him and we can pick him up

He impressed me. I'm hoping it was his performance rather than ours as defensive unit. Like TB pointed out, it's our run defense is what concerns me the most. Hopefully, since we are home cookin this Saturday, we come out strong against the Cowboys.

 

[DexmanC]

I was hoping as their 3rd stringer they cut him and we can pick him up

Isn't that how we got Dan Orlovsky? He lit the Texans up with
that bomb he threw to Calvin Johnson from his own endzone and
the coaches rushed to sign him.

 

[thunderkyss]

meh......I'm waiting for Saturday to see if we're just getting bullshitted again, or if the team actually shows up.

Stop it. Please, for the love of God... stop it.

Remember three years ago, the Cowboys came to Reliant in the preseason. If you were at Reliant, I'm sure you remember that (preseason) game. We kicked their ass. At one time, our 2s were kicking their 1s butt.

We went 8-8 that season, the Cowboys went 13-3.

 

[thunderkyss]

Kubiak wants immediate improvement
Defense's inability to stop Saints on downs perturbs Texans coach
By JOHN McCLAIN
Copyright 2010 Houston Chronicle
Aug. 23, 2010, 12:15AM

"Our attention to detail, our effort at times -it's not near what it needs to be for us to get ready to play Indianapolis (in the regular-season opener). Obviously, we've got some things to fix and some issues to attend to, and we'll do that."

This was my favorite part of the article. The only part really worth the paper it is written on.

This is practice. The 1st preseason game, the 2nd preseason game, the 3rd preseason game... practice. We're getting ready for Indy,



Period.

 

[CloakNNNdagger]

Winston stated that

"the lag of not being around Houston, I think really hit us about yesterday. You know, where everyone was like, you know, let's play a good game, and let's go home, you know."

"Yesterday" referred to Friday since this interview was on Saturday. I guess I have somewhat of a question why this team would be thinking about let alone experiencing "lag" before this game.

 

[ESAD2-14]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CmSCh5ZkMqk&feature=related

Someone posted this before here at TT.

I thought maybe the Saints spiked the Texans Gatorade with something before the game (not really), as they looked lackadaisical and discombobulated from the get go. Hope they get it (whatever "it" is) out of their system before the season kicks off for real.

 

[ATXtexanfan]

It's funny when you destroy someone in pre-season you can't feel good about it because it's preseason but when you get destroyed (like we did against the Saints) it's time to panic.

Oh, how I loathe you, preseason. And I kind of like you some too.

amen brother

 

[CloakNNNdagger]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CmSCh5ZkMqk&feature=related

Someone posted this before here at TT.

I thought maybe the Saints spiked the Texans Gatorade with something before the game (not really), as they looked lackadaisical and discombobulated from the get go. Hope they get it (whatever "it" is) out of their system before the season kicks off for real.

That was I, for the Jamarcus Russell Purple Drank thread. I guess that's also how "lag" can be described, though.

 

[The Pencil Neck]

yeah, but I think all 5 completions were on third downs.

But he didn't convert all his third downs and had to punt. It's easy to forget that since Holliday fumbled that punt.

 

[Ole Miss Texan]

Isn't that how we got Dan Orlovsky? He lit the Texans up with
that bomb he threw to Calvin Johnson from his own endzone and
the coaches rushed to sign him.

If by "rushed to sign him" you mean signing him 4 1/2 months later in the offseason after we traded away Sage? Then yes.

 

[JB]

If by "rushed to sign him" you mean signing him 4 1/2 months later in the offseason after we traded away Sage? Then yes.

Hindsight is whatever you want it to be.

 

[beerlover]

If by "rushed to sign him" you mean signing him 4 1/2 months later in the offseason after we traded away Sage? Then yes.

Sage may soon be available without paying any draft pick(s) in return?

 

[Ole Miss Texan]

Hindsight is whatever you want it to be.

Just clarifying what the timeline actually was. I was actually in favor of trading Sage (particularly a year earlier) and was supportive of bringing in Dan-O (even though he was/is winless).

Sage may soon be available without paying any draft pick(s) in return?

I wonder if he would sign with us? I'd love to have him back. Good person and a good backup.

 

[beerlover]

Just clarifying what the timeline actually was. I was actually in favor of trading Sage (particularly a year earlier) and was supportive of bringing in Dan-O (even though he was/is winless).

I wonder if he would sign with us? I'd love to have him back. Good person and a good backup.

ask yourself who you would rather have Dan Orlovsky or Sage backing up Schaub?

 

[DexmanC]

If by "rushed to sign him" you mean signing him 4 1/2 months later in the offseason after we traded away Sage? Then yes.

Uh... Players become free agents in the OFFSEASON.

 

[CloakNNNdagger]

ask yourself who you would rather have Dan Orlovsky or Sage backing up Schaub?

Let's see. Orlovsky or Sage? Orlovsky or Sage? Vinegar or hot toddy?

 

[beerlover]

Let's see. Orlovsky or Sage? Orlovsky or Sage? Vinegar or hot toddy?

yeah, pick your poison

however his release is clean, even better than I remember while here, maybe some of Farve has rubbed off, but he knows & can run this offense better than Orlovsky so I would prefer him.

 

[CloakNNNdagger]

yeah, pick your poison

however his release is clean, even better than I remember while here, maybe some of Farve has rubbed off, but he knows & can run this offense better than Orlovsky so I would prefer him.

I know that there are those that cannot put the "Rosencopter" out of their mind and probably never will, but at this point in time, I would take back Sage in a flash. People seem to forget how as a backup he more typically "held" the team in the race. Right now, I would not trust Orlovsky to give us at least that much if Schaub goes down. That's MHO.

 

[SheTexan]

I know that there are those that cannot put the "Rosencopter" out of their mind and probably never will, but at this point in time, I would take back Sage in a flash. People seem to forget how as a backup he more typically "held" the team in the race. Right now, I would not trust Orlovsky to give us at least that much if Schaub goes down. That's MHO.

Same here Jean! Gimme Sage anyday over DO! Sage is another Texan who made a booobooo and got creamed by the media and fans in Houston. We got rid of him for someone who is NO better, and probably worst. Ya know the old saying "be careful what you wish for." That wish might come back to bite ya in the gm!!

 

[steelbtexan]

Same here Jean! Gimme Sage anyday over DO! Sage is another Texan who made a booobooo and got creamed by the media and fans in Houston. We got rid of him for someone who is NO better, and probably worst. Ya know the old saying "be careful what you wish for." That wish might come back to bite ya in the gm!!

Ditto

 

[Ole Miss Texan]

Isn't that how we got Dan Orlovsky? He lit the Texans up with that bomb he threw to Calvin Johnson from his own endzone and the coaches rushed to sign him.

If by "rushed to sign him" you mean signing him 4 1/2 months later in the offseason after we traded away Sage? Then yes.

Uh... Players become free agents in the OFFSEASON.

LOL, yup. They didn't "rush" out and sign him after he threw that TD to Calvin Johnson, a game we still won. They didn't "rush" out and sign him the minute he was a free agent. They signed him because we had traded away Sage, if it wasn't for that Dan-O wouldn't be on this team.

ask yourself who you would rather have Dan Orlovsky or Sage backing up Schaub?

No question I'd rather have Sage backing up Schaub, hands down. Speaking of hindsight, I'm not going to go back on my feelings though that I had wanted to trade Sage for the 3rd rounder the year before we traded him for the 4th (don't know if that 3rd was actually on the table though). We're getting way off topic here but Sage is a very good backup and I'd take him over just about anybody in the league, I've always liked him on this team. It's just ashame the 4th rounder Anthony Hill hasn't worked out. I don't know why we're really talking about it thought bc Sage still has 2 seasons on his contract.

 

[Double Barrel]

Stop it. Please, for the love of God... stop it.

Remember three years ago, the Cowboys came to Reliant in the preseason. If you were at Reliant, I'm sure you remember that (preseason) game. We kicked their ass. At one time, our 2s were kicking their 1s butt.

We went 8-8 that season, the Cowboys went 13-3.

yeah, preseason games are meaningless yada yada yada...

However, that being said, I'd still like to see solid fundamentals from our players, and in that regard, many are simply unprepared and sloppy.

 

[GP]

yeah, preseason games are meaningless yada yada yada...

However, that being said, I'd still like to see solid fundamentals from our players, and in that regard, many are simply unprepared and sloppy.

Exactly.

But there is such noise being made about how the poor play in the previous game is to be ignored. I truly don't seem to get it.

Not that I have my finger on the Fire Now button. I don't. But the amount of head-in-the-sand attitude is alarming. I don't choose to hype things up. Had we played AS WELL as the Saints, I'm probably easing into the hype zone with the Texans.

But the past performance looked eerily similar to patterns of the past preseason, which led to rust in the first several games of the season. This team is up-and-down. You can tolerate lolligagging when you've seen that it's not a regular attitude. There's nothing about us (our past) that should have led to the team being THAT disinterested and comatose for THAT long. A full two quarters of bumbling and stumbling....with the 2nd quarter facing their 2's mostly.

 

[cuppacoffee]

This was my favorite part of the article. The only part really worth the paper it is written on.

This is practice. The 1st preseason game, the 2nd preseason game, the 3rd preseason game... practice. We're getting ready for Indy,



Period.

TK I know you have heard the old saying, " You play like you practice".

Next game tells it all for this coming season, whether it's practice or not.

Third preseason game, coming off an old fashioned ass-whoppin, against dullass.

Gotta be a statement made by this 'new' Texan team.

 

[thunderkyss]

But the amount of head-in-the-sand attitude is alarming.

But the past performance looked eerily similar to patterns of the past preseason, which led to rust in the first several games of the season.

We didn't look great those first three games of last year. I don't want to be misunderstood. However, most people believe we turned something around, once Pollard got here. The evidence (the Game tape, the box scores, and the play-by-play) says something totally different.

We looked bad in the preseason last year. But once the regular season started, (Game 1) we were playing some really good defense. If you look at the number of runs against us, you'll see percentage wise, more of those plays went for 3 yards or less, than those that went for more than 3 yards (by a substantial margin). A large number of those plays were for 0 yards, or for a loss of yards.

That's the same team that looked bad in the preseason last year. They look bad again this year, because we are looking for them to "manhandle" the Saints, we are looking for them to blow up the RB, we are looking for them to be "competitive."

I believe in my heart of hearts, that they are working on stuff, that we do not see. We are only seeing little pieces here and there, and not looking at the big picture.

Wax on, Wax off...

I'm saying that, because that is what happened last year. They didn't look like a pro football team against the Vikings, or the Saints. But once the regular season started, we were playing real NFL football.

The effort was there against the Jets... The #1 rushing team couldn't run on our defense for most of the game. That's a fact, check the play-by-play. Week 2, CJ had 16 Carries against us. 4 of those were monsters. I've got it at home, but I think his other 10 carries were for less than 12 yards. Same thing with Jones Drew, there was effort there, they came to play.

Just goofed up here and there (Only one big play to MJD).

The only real defense I can cede to the no effort yap, is that our offense looked dead against the Jets. It didn't help that Kubiak took out half the play book, because Schaub had a boo-boo.

 

[thunderkyss]

TK I know you have heard the old saying, " You play like you practice".

Next game tells it all for this coming season, whether it's practice or not.

Third preseason game, coming off an old fashioned ass-whoppin, against dullass.

Gotta be a statement made by this 'new' Texan team.

Why?

Indy loses that game every year, yet they win 12+ every season.

Again, we beat the Cowboys in that very game, in 2007. They went 13-3, we went 8-8.

It doesn't mean what you think it means.

 

[eriadoc]

Kubiak wants immediate improvement

Therefore, he cancelled Monday's practice. The kids were tired, I guess.

Look, preseason is practice, we all know that. But you play in the regular season like you practice. Preseason is worthless in a lots of ways, but it does reveal indicators. If this team's practice has resulted in tackles like we saw on Saturday, then the team has problems. If this team's practice has resulted in getting blown off the ball in the trenches on both sides, then this team has problems. And if this team is practicing to come out so lackadaisical and without fire, then this team has problems.

Yes, the preseason is vanilla. Well, tackling is as vanilla as it gets. Heads up beating the guy in front of you is as vanilla as it gets. Coming out with some fire in the belly and a sense of urgency is as vanilla as it gets.

 

[Double Barrel]

Therefore, he cancelled Monday's practice. The kids were tired, I guess.

Look, preseason is practice, we all know that. But you play in the regular season like you practice. Preseason is worthless in a lots of ways, but it does reveal indicators. If this team's practice has resulted in tackles like we saw on Saturday, then the team has problems. If this team's practice has resulted in getting blown off the ball in the trenches on both sides, then this team has problems. And if this team is practicing to come out so lackadaisical and without fire, then this team has problems.

Yes, the preseason is vanilla. Well, tackling is as vanilla as it gets. Heads up beating the guy in front of you is as vanilla as it gets. Coming out with some fire in the belly and a sense of urgency is as vanilla as it gets.

My thoughts, as well. Bringing up Indy's preseason records is pointless, because we are not the Colts. They are a proven team that has the ability to turn it on when the games matter. The Texans are not that type of team and never have been. They lack intensity in practice and preseason games, and the resulting sloppy play and flawed fundamentals has no excuse.

I could care less if the Texans went 0-4 in preseason but we saw a team that was focused and taking care of business. If the defense misses tackles against Indy in week one, expect a blowout.

 

[Rey]

I could care less if the Texans went 0-4 in preseason but we saw a team that was focused and taking care of business. If the defense misses tackles against Indy in week one, expect a blowout.

Yeah...

I don't think too many people were actually upset about the loss in game one because the starters came out and played well.

Against NO they just looked pitiful...Score be damned...

 

[DexmanC]

TK I know you have heard the old saying, " You play like you practice".

Next game tells it all for this coming season, whether it's practice or not.

Third preseason game, coming off an old fashioned ass-whoppin, against dullass.

Gotta be a statement made by this 'new' Texan team.

"Who in the hell treats the third game of the preseason
like it's bullshit? BULLSHIT!

We find out Saturday how to think about the Texans going into
the regular season.

 

[RTP2110]

Winston said zilch that was offensive. Basically said the team was looking forward to an ordinary schedule.

I agree, and I may be the only one, but I think there is a bit of legitimacy to what he said. Normally for road games these guys are only out of town two days. They arrive Saturday, and come right back home Sunday after the game. In this case, they were in NO for 5 days. 5 long days of camp and practices that culminated with a meaningless preseason game. I don't doubt that they were a bit fatigued physically and mentally. I can see where some of them probably just wanted to get that game over and get back home. I don't think there's any way they approach the week 1 home opener against a division rival in the same manner they did this preaseason game. At least I sure as hell hope not. The game this Saturday will be very telling, IMO.

 

[CloakNNNdagger]

It certainly doesn't give me any more solace that Vince Young and company didn't have too much difficulty putting Arizona away last night.

 

[The Pencil Neck]

It certainly doesn't give me any more solace that Vince Young and company didn't have too much difficulty putting Arizona away last night.

Tennessee was only up 10-3 at halftime. We were up more than that after the first quarter AND at halftime.

 

[cuppacoffee]

Why?

Indy loses that game every year, yet they win 12+ every season.

Again, we beat the Cowboys in that very game, in 2007. They went 13-3, we went 8-8.

It doesn't mean what you think it means.

We will just have to disagree about this one.

First home game ( even if it is exh.) after just missing the playoffs the previous season, all the talking about how things are going to be different this year. Failing to show up in NO. It's the hated dullass team ( even if it's only the fans who feel that way ). I just don't think this bunch can wait until the first regular season game to show up.

This will be the first game with any game planning to speak of, so Kubiak and Bush will need to show up too.

I still think this game will tell us if this bunch is for real or just a bunch of wannabe/talkers.

We definitely aren't Indy.

 

[thunderkyss]

I still think this game will tell us if this bunch is for real or just a bunch of wannabe/talkers.

So what did it tell us in 2007?

We dominated.

 

[DexmanC]

We will just have to disagree about this one.

First home game ( even if it is exh.) after just missing the playoffs the previous season, all the talking about how things are going to be different this year. Failing to show up in NO. It's the hated dullass team ( even if it's only the fans who feel that way ). I just don't think this bunch can wait until the first regular season game to show up.

This will be the first game with any game planning to speak of, so Kubiak and Bush will need to show up too.

I still think this game will tell us if this bunch is for real or just a bunch of wannabe/talkers.

We definitely aren't Indy.

Apologists for Saturday night continually try to play the "Indy loses, too"
card. The Texans have YET to demonstrate the focus and maturity
of the Colts. It's truly an apples-to-oranges argument. They must
PRACTICE focus and maturity NOW.

They went to Pittsburgh two years ago, and played at preseason speed
all game long! Casey Hampton even threw Chris Myers INTO Slaton.

They repeated the same **** LAST opening day. They don't have the
track record of a team that starts the season focused and ready to go.
Thus, we fans are in a "wait-'till-I-see-it" mode with this regime. They'd
BETTER show up ready to play Saturday night.

It doesn't matter if they win. It matters how they perform.

 

[b0ng]

So I guess the "fans" that don't get all riled up about how the team looked in a preseason loss are apologists? I mean, I could say that they played like ****, or that I don't accept failure or a million other cliche's but in the end, I just really don't care nearly as much as I do in the regular season. I didn't really give a **** that we beat down the Cardinals either, so I guess I'm consistent with my apathy.

I mean, apart from the gameplan not even being "win the game at all costs" like it is in the regular season, it's still up in the air why the defense looked so terrible. Disinterest? Out coached? Subpar technique? You can point to any of these points and say a million things to try to justify your opinion, but in the end, we still don't know why's. Getting all worked up in preseason and posting retarded stuff like "Oh man this team is soft and I hate the coach" is just doing a throwback to your own opinion at the end of the 2009 season for almost everybody here. The pessimists still think this team sucks, and the optimists are still thinking that we are on the right track and everybody is getting in these gay slapfights about it all over this board. For preseason I like looking at individual battles for players that 1) Weren't on the team last year or were injured and 2) Are in a tight position battle.

Mario isn't in a position battle. Neither is Okoye (even though a position battle is pretty warranted at this point). Nor is Cushing or Ryans or Antonio Smith. I'm not expecting the coaching staff to show us everything they've installed or implemented in TC that is new either, because that would just be stupid. I know it's nice to see our 1's crush people, but in the end, they aren't making the same kind of game checks in preseason as they are in the regular season and it doesn't surprise me in the least bit that the guys not fighting for a spot aren't playing like they are. This whole "Oh the 3rd game is the big one" is horseshit too. Again, our 1's might be out there for longer (Hopefully they just tell Andre to stay at home, and maybe Schaub too) but I'm not expecting to see blitz packages or jap plays on the offense.

Basically a lot of people on both sides of the fence are trying to read entirely too much into the preseason and the games that are played. I think your eyes should more be looking for players who look like they will make the 53 that you really didn't think had a shot (Like Troy Nolan, or at least for me it's Nolan), not how hard all the starters are going and what the scheme looks like.

 

[The Pencil Neck]

We will just have to disagree about this one.

First home game ( even if it is exh.) after just missing the playoffs the previous season, all the talking about how things are going to be different this year. Failing to show up in NO. It's the hated dullass team ( even if it's only the fans who feel that way ). I just don't think this bunch can wait until the first regular season game to show up.

This will be the first game with any game planning to speak of, so Kubiak and Bush will need to show up too.

I still think this game will tell us if this bunch is for real or just a bunch of wannabe/talkers.

We definitely aren't Indy.

As has been said over and over, this is preseason. The purpose isn't to win games. The purpose is to learn things and to fix things and to determine who your players are.

A lot of you are getting upset because we didn't show up against the Saints.

And then when people point to how won/loss records really don't mean that much when it comes to determining how your team is going to play in the regular season and use the Colts as an example, you come back with the quip "Well, we're not the Colts."

The point isn't about the Colts, it's about winning and losing in the preseason.

Last year, some of the best teams in the preseason were the Seahawks, the Rams, the Lions, the Dolphins, the Bears, the 49ers and the Steelers. None of those teams made the playoffs and some of them didn't win very many games at all.

And the playoff teams last year?
Bengals - 2-2
Cardinals - 0-4
Chargers - 2-2
Colts - 1-3
Cowboys - 2-2
Eagles - 1-3
Jets - 2-2
Packers - 3-1
Patriots - 3-1
Ravens - 4-0
Saints - 3-1
Vikings - 3-1

That's all over the place. Which proves the point. Winning and losing doesn't matter in the preseason. What matters is preparing for the season.

 

[cuppacoffee]

So what did it tell us in 2007?

We dominated.

We did go 3-1 against the weaker NFC.

 

[thunderkyss]

Apologists for Saturday night continually try to play the "Indy loses, too"
card. The Texans have YET to demonstrate the focus and maturity
of the Colts. It's truly an apples-to-oranges argument. They must
PRACTICE focus and maturity NOW.

They went to Pittsburgh two years ago, and played at preseason speed
all game long! Casey Hampton even threw Chris Myers INTO Slaton.

They repeated the same **** LAST opening day. They don't have the
track record of a team that starts the season focused and ready to go.
Thus, we fans are in a "wait-'till-I-see-it" mode with this regime. They'd
BETTER show up ready to play Saturday night.

It doesn't matter if they win. It matters how they perform.

Super Bowl

 

[JB]

Always-quotable safety Bernard Pollard said that Kubiak gave the players a “whoopin’” on Monday when the entire team watched film together. “He put us all in one room,” Pollard said. “We all watched every single play. I think that was enough. When you put up film like that and your teammates see how bad you played and you see how many mistakes were in one play and how many missed tackles there were in one play – I think we missed four tackles on one play – you can’t do that, and Coach Kubiak let us know in a polite way that he don’t want that out of us, and we don’t want that out of ourselves. We have to hold each other accountable.”

Link


I think that is Bonecrusher's way of saying that Kubiak reamed their collective ass yesterday!

 

[thegr8fan]

The Saints are the Super Bowl champions. The Cowboys are Super Bowl contenders coming off a victory at San Diego.

when exactly were the Cowboys superbowl contenders? Oh yeah, the 90's. Well they say the memory of yesteryears is what keeps old timers going, eh McLame.

the game Saturday was sloppy, in terms of fundamental football, IMHO. That was the most discouraging part to see as a Texans fan. Then again, ALOT of our games are sloppy fundamental football. That seems to be the Kubiak regime. That kind of play is on the coaching, not the players, IMHO.

Time to fix the problem, bad coaching, and not the sympton, poor play. But Bob McNair isn't the kind to give up on a bad player or a bad coach until it is painfully obvious, to ANYONE who watches football, that it/he just isn't going to work.

 

[cuppacoffee]

As has been said over and over, this is preseason. The purpose isn't to win games. The purpose is to learn things and to fix things and to determine who your players are.

A lot of you are getting upset because we didn't show up against the Saints.

And then when people point to how won/loss records really don't mean that much when it comes to determining how your team is going to play in the regular season and use the Colts as an example, you come back with the quip "Well, we're not the Colts."

The point isn't about the Colts, it's about winning and losing in the preseason.

Last year, some of the best teams in the preseason were the Seahawks, the Rams, the Lions, the Dolphins, the Bears, the 49ers and the Steelers. None of those teams made the playoffs and some of them didn't win very many games at all.

And the playoff teams last year?
Bengals - 2-2
Cardinals - 0-4
Chargers - 2-2
Colts - 1-3
Cowboys - 2-2
Eagles - 1-3
Jets - 2-2
Packers - 3-1
Patriots - 3-1
Ravens - 4-0
Saints - 3-1
Vikings - 3-1

That's all over the place. Which proves the point. Winning and losing doesn't matter in the preseason. What matters is preparing for the season.

Exactly what did they do against the Saints that prepared them for the season? ( preparing to be mugged weekly? ).

Is missing tackles preparing for the season?.

Is making Reggie (frigging) Bush look like the second coming of Jim Brown preparing for the season?..

Just showing up and going through the motions is not preparing for the season.

What did we learn?

What are we gonna fix?

Name someone who stood out and looked like they belong on a 53 man roster? That is the purpose of the preseason, isn't it?

If the games mean absolutely nothing then why the hell play them. (well, actually, you could make a case that we didn't)

Understand--I don't care that we lost a preseason game.

I care that we forfeited the game without showing up. Forfeit = quitters.

 

[The Pencil Neck]

Exactly what did they do against the Saints that prepared them for the season? ( preparing to be mugged weekly? ).

Is missing tackles preparing for the season?.

Is making Reggie (frigging) Bush look like the second coming of Jim Brown preparing for the season?..

Just showing up and going through the motions is not preparing for the season.

What did we learn?

What are we gonna fix?

Name someone who stood out and looked like they belong on a 53 man roster? That is the purpose of the preseason, isn't it?

If the games mean absolutely nothing then why the hell play them. (well, actually, you could make a case that we didn't)

Understand--I don't care that we lost a preseason game.

I care that we forfeited the game without showing up. Forfeit = quitters.

Yes.

 

[DexmanC]

Understand--I don't care that we lost a preseason game.

I care that we forfeited the game without showing up. Forfeit = quitters.

Must these two points be pounded into the heads of the Saturday Night
Apologists? Who cares about wins and loses in preseason? You PRACTICE
how you PLAY. The habits you set NOW, determines the effectiveness
of your habits in the season.

Will we have a ?

 

[Lucky]

the game Saturday was sloppy, in terms of fundamental football, IMHO. That was the most discouraging part to see as a Texans fan.

It seemed to me that the Texans mailed this one in. Doesn't bother me in the preseason so much, as it did in last season's opening game at Reliant.

Gr8 to see you back.

 

[The Pencil Neck]

Must these two points be pounded into the heads of the Saturday Night
Apologists? Who cares about wins and loses in preseason? You PRACTICE
how you PLAY. The habits you set NOW, determines the effectiveness
of your habits in the season.

Will we have a :defense:?

I know that Kubiak believes that you "practice how you play" but personally, I don't. I think it's really kinda dumb to believe that. Everything I've ever experienced in my life says that's not the case.

But, let's say it is the case.

Let's say that Kubiak has totally lost this team. Let's say that this defense is so amazingly bad that it will never tackle another person again, evar. Let's say that we're going to go through an entire season of giving up 450 yards per game. And let's say that our offense is one dimensional and people will now know how to shut down Kubiak's offense.

OK.

Now what?

Do we sit around and whine about it? You want to swap stories about how bad our players are? Or maybe who we'd prefer to have coaching the team? Cowher, Gruden, Frank Bush? How about we all spend our Sundays out hunting or fishing or playing with our kids instead of watching this pathetic excuse for a team? How about we just go and tailgate and wear jersey's with Kubiak's name crossed out and stuff like that?

 

[JB]

I know that Kubiak believes that you "practice how you play" but personally, I don't. I think it's really kinda dumb to believe that. Everything I've ever experienced in my life says that's not the case.

But, let's say it is the case.

Let's say that Kubiak has totally lost this team. Let's say that this defense is so amazingly bad that it will never tackle another person again, evar. Let's say that we're going to go through an entire season of giving up 450 yards per game. And let's say that our offense is one dimensional and people will now know how to shut down Kubiak's offense.

OK.

Now what?

Do we sit around and whine about it? You want to swap stories about how bad our players are? Or maybe who we'd prefer to have coaching the team? Cowher, Gruden, Frank Bush? How about we all spend our Sundays out hunting or fishing or playing with our kids instead of watching this pathetic excuse for a team? How about we just go and tailgate and wear jersey's with Kubiak's name crossed out and stuff like that?

http://www.texanstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=74537

 

[DexmanC]

I know that Kubiak believes that you "practice how you play" but personally, I don't. I think it's really kinda dumb to believe that. Everything I've ever experienced in my life says that's not the case.

But, let's say it is the case.

Let's say that Kubiak has totally lost this team. Let's say that this defense is so amazingly bad that it will never tackle another person again, evar. Let's say that we're going to go through an entire season of giving up 450 yards per game. And let's say that our offense is one dimensional and people will now know how to shut down Kubiak's offense.

OK.

Now what?

Do we sit around and whine about it? You want to swap stories about how bad our players are? Or maybe who we'd prefer to have coaching the team? Cowher, Gruden, Frank Bush? How about we all spend our Sundays out hunting or fishing or playing with our kids instead of watching this pathetic excuse for a team? How about we just go and tailgate and wear jersey's with Kubiak's name crossed out and stuff like that?

Everything I've said in this thread, is in the context of being a Texans fan,
and addressing what I saw on the field. My posts are not in the exaggerated
context of what you've just stated.

 

[The Pencil Neck]

Everything I've said in this thread, is in the context of being a Texans fan,
and addressing what I saw on the field. My posts are not in the exaggerated
context of what you've just stated.

Will we have a defense? (You've said that.)

We're going to go 5-7 to start the season. (You've said that several times.)

We're repeating the same mistakes we made the past two years when we came out and got our asses handed to us by the Steelers and the Jets. (You've said that several times.)

If you don't think Kubiak is teh Suxor, then you're an apologist. (You just said that.)

Just because you don't THINK you're posts are in the exaggerated manner I posted, that doesn't mean they're not.

You're a Texan fan. Great. You think the team has made a mistake. Great. You want to complain about it. Great.

Go ahead.