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Jacoby's Gotta Go/**UPDATE**Released

I think #56 and #99 are gonna be staple jersey numbers in the future as well but you never know with these things. #23 has already secured his spot for a while at least, unless he really just tanked CJ2YPC style.

I still say #80 has those guys beat.

Things can always change with 56, 99, and 23.

But 80? It's Texans forever, 100%. As in take-it-to-the-bank.

That was my reason for getting AJ's jersey several years ago. I thought long and hard about which jersey would have the best chance at "staying power." And it looks like he will be the Texans player with the longest history and the most remembered career here.

Sure, he might go play a final year for some scrub team...they all do that, it seems. But we all know he'd be back Jerry Rice style to sign and retire as a Texans. He will go into the HOF as a Texans player too. #80 is a Texans fan's best chance at staying power with a jersey.
 
I still say #80 has those guys beat.

Things can always change with 56, 99, and 23.

But 80? It's Texans forever, 100%. As in take-it-to-the-bank.

That was my reason for getting AJ's jersey several years ago. I thought long and hard about which jersey would have the best chance at "staying power." And it looks like he will be the Texans player with the longest history and the most remembered career here.

Sure, he might go play a final year for some scrub team...they all do that, it seems. But we all know he'd be back Jerry Rice style to sign and retire as a Texans. He will go into the HOF as a Texans player too. #80 is a Texans fan's best chance at staying power with a jersey.

GP, don't be scaird to get any of these numbers as well, for the same reason. I'd bet they ain't goin' anywhere either. Except up the record books.
 
What's the obsession with having "current" jerseys? That's foolish. Who cares. Yeah it sucks that a player might move on or get dealt or whatever, but think of it as a "museum" of sorts, and as proof to yourself that you've been with the team through thick and thin.
 
What's the obsession with having "current" jerseys? That's foolish. Who cares. Yeah it sucks that a player might move on or get dealt or whatever, but think of it as a "museum" of sorts, and as proof to yourself that you've been with the team through thick and thin.

Do you wear the charm bracelet your first love gave you? What about a wedding band from an ex-spouse?

There's an emotional attachment to these thing. That's the obsession.
 
The moment he got taken in the third, specially from a small school his expectations were set by this staff. He was undoubtedly THEIR guy. Physically he has the tools to be a good #2, mentally it turns out, not so much. He just couldn't string it together on a regular basis.

I do hope a change of scenery and maybe being put in a spot where he doesn't "feel" fans expectations so heavily, allows him to develop into the best he can finally.
 
Do you wear the charm bracelet your first love gave you? What about a wedding band from an ex-spouse?

There's an emotional attachment to these thing. That's the obsession.

Interestingly enough, my first real love gave me a customized Texans jersey with my FIRST name on the back. Who DOES that? I wore that every damn gameday through the 2010 season. Last year I decided I wouldn't wear it, and it was our best season yet.

Thinking I should burn it for good, hahaha.

But on another note, I have 3 or 4 Phoenix Suns jerseys and neither of the players play for the team anymore but I still wear them.
 
I have my fingers crossed for him, scenery changes have helped lot's of guys throughout the years. I'm hoping that's the case for Jacoby.
 
I hope Jacoby has a great career somewhere else, but he had to go. He should have been out of here last season, but he had the "Jacoby Jones one amazing touchdown a year" in the 1st game and that kept him a spot lol.
 
Listening to Sirius NFL Radio, and Pat Kirwain was pretty much in agreement with us. He's a guy that was drafted to help Andre who made some plays on special teams but couldn't quite get out of being the 3rd receiver. The Texans have younger, cheaper talent to do that with now that doesn't equate to paying Jacoby what they paid him to do. However, he's got some talent so perhaps a change will do some good. There have been several receivers who don't get it done with their first team and then go on to have great careers. Those were Pat Kirwain's words.
 

From Nitro's link:

Recently scapegoated former Houston Texans wide receiver Jacoby Jones didn't have to wait long to find a potential new gig.

"Recently scapegoated"?? Are you kidding me??? Recently outted as a physically gifted guy that after 5 or 6 years just never "got it" and/or never matured. A guy who consistently made bone-headed plays!

Scapegoated my a$$!
 
small hands are small hands :kitten:

This is an X-Ray of Jacoby Jones head ....


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Notice the lack of an actual brain ....
 
From Nitro's link:



"Recently scapegoated"?? Are you kidding me??? Recently outted as a physically gifted guy that after 5 or 6 years just never "got it" and/or never matured. A guy who consistently made bone-headed plays!

Scapegoated my a$$!
He might not be as bad as well all remember, but the 31 other teams all let him clear waivers, as NONE were willing to pick up his contract. That, more than anything else, cements the fact he's not worth #2 (and maybe not #3) money.
 
I don't think Jacoby was ever the same player after he got pancaked (seperated shoulder) sideline after long return a few years ago. He was on a nice upwards trendline, then missed time & played w/fear that point on, still Texans resigned him to that nice fat contract last offseason.
 
I do not wish Jacoby any bad luck, unless he's playing us of course. If he catches on somewhere, it will interesting to watch his stats.
 
He might not be as bad as well all remember, but the 31 other teams all let him clear waivers, as NONE were willing to pick up his contract. That, more than anything else, cements the fact he's not worth #2 (and maybe not #3) money.

I don't think that was ever argued. I'm one of his biggest supporters, & I didn't like that contract.
 
He might not be as bad as well all remember, but the 31 other teams all let him clear waivers, as NONE were willing to pick up his contract. That, more than anything else, cements the fact he's not worth #2 (and maybe not #3) money.

From February 1, until the NFL trade deadline, players with four or more years of service become free agents immediately - there are no waivers to clear.

Not suggesting anybody would have picked up his contract - just that nobody was even given the chance.
 

I saw that on my NFL Mobile app...couldn't copy and paste it, though.

Thank you for posting.

I laughed out loud when I read the part about him being "scapegoated."

Do these guys not look at our team and players in a real, objective light? He was a long-term project...he got a contract that was a bit of a gamble...and we didn't want to go any further with him. The incident in Baltimore was just the final piece of confirmation that he was not going to reach a new level for us.

If anything, he wasn't scapegoated...he was given a lot of slack to the point that he tripped over it. No other Kubiak player on offense has been given the time to develop like Jacoby Jones had.
 
I saw that on my NFL Mobile app...couldn't copy and paste it, though.

Thank you for posting.

I laughed out loud when I read the part about him being "scapegoated."

Do these guys not look at our team and players in a real, objective light? He was a long-term project...he got a contract that was a bit of a gamble...and we didn't want to go any further with him. The incident in Baltimore was just the final piece of confirmation that he was not going to reach a new level for us.

If anything, he wasn't scapegoated...he was given a lot of slack to the point that he tripped over it. No other Kubiak player on offense has been given the time to develop like Jacoby Jones had.

Do we look at our own players objectively ? ..... Not really. When I said Ryans was due a paycut , how many said I was nutz ? Instead , he gets moved .... for salary purposes.
 
From February 1, until the NFL trade deadline, players with four or more years of service become free agents immediately - there are no waivers to clear.

Not suggesting anybody would have picked up his contract - just that nobody was even given the chance.
Perhaps. According to everything I've found, he wasn't cut, he was waived. Bob Allen & all the mainstram outlets were reporting that he cleared waivers along with his carolina visit last night.
 
Perhaps. According to everything I've found, he wasn't cut, he was waived. Bob Allen & all the mainstram outlets were reporting that he cleared waivers along with his carolina visit last night.

Then those cats need to do a little research. :kitten:
 
Perhaps. According to everything I've found, he wasn't cut, he was waived. Bob Allen & all the mainstram outlets were reporting that he cleared waivers along with his carolina visit last night.

Then they were wrong (and there's no difference between being cut and waived).

From Article 29 (WAIVERS) of the current CBA (found on page 155)

(a) Whenever a player who has finished the season in which his fourth year of credited service has been earned under the Bert Bell/Pete Rozelle Plan is placed on waivers between February 1 and the trading deadline, his contract will be considered terminated and the player will be completely free at any time thereafter to negotiate and sign a Player Contract with any Club, and any Club shall be completely free to negotiate and sign a Player Contract with such player...

(b) Whenever a player who has finished less than the season in which his fourth year of credited service has been earned under the Bert Bell/Pete Rozelle Plan is placed on waivers, the player's Player Contract will be subject to the waiver system and may be awarded to a claiming Club.
LINK
 
I saw that on my NFL Mobile app...couldn't copy and paste it, though.

Thank you for posting.

I laughed out loud when I read the part about him being "scapegoated."

Do these guys not look at our team and players in a real, objective light? He was a long-term project...he got a contract that was a bit of a gamble...and we didn't want to go any further with him. The incident in Baltimore was just the final piece of confirmation that he was not going to reach a new level for us.

If anything, he wasn't scapegoated...he was given a lot of slack to the point that he tripped over it. No other Kubiak player on offense has been given the time to develop like Jacoby Jones had.

Scapegoated? Is that what he's saying?

Give me a freakin break. Jacoby was CODDLED. There's a fine line between mentoring (which Gary/Rick did at first) to coddling (which that mentoring turned into).

I hope Jacoby isn't going to turn into one of those stank players who bashes this team after he leaves (mainly to cover their own faings). If he does, he will feel the full wrath of Texans fans.
 
Following his Thursday visit to the Panthers, free agent WR/KR Jacoby Jones is scheduled to meet with two more teams before signing a contract.

Carolina is reportedly interested in Jones as a No. 2 receiver, where he would apparently unseat Brandon LaFell and move ahead of David Gettis. We wouldn't be so aggressive in handing Jones that job, but it's going to be an open camp battle regardless. The identity of the other two teams is unknown.
May. 4 - 1:29 pm et
Source: Charlotte Observer
 
Has it already been discussed that his agent is saying they asked for a release?

Anyone believe that?

I think it's plausible.

Texans may have told jacoby his spot in the rotation or on the team was not guaranteed or maybe he inferred that from the draft picks.

He may have just figured that he was on his way out regardless and the texans happily complied with his request.

I don't know. Could just be them saving face.
 
Scapegoated? Is that what he's saying?

Give me a freakin break. Jacoby was CODDLED. There's a fine line between mentoring (which Gary/Rick did at first) to coddling (which that mentoring turned into).

I hope Jacoby isn't going to turn into one of those stank players who bashes this team after he leaves (mainly to cover their own faings). If he does, he will feel the full wrath of Texans fans.

The reaction to Jones's role in the Baltimore loss does approach scapegoating levels, let's be honest.

Was that all people disliked him for, no, but he did share more than his portion of blame for that loss.
 
The reaction to Jones's role in the Baltimore loss does approach scapegoating levels, let's be honest.

Was that all people disliked him for, no, but he did share more than his portion of blame for that loss.

Three INT's by the rookie QB .... who was in over his head.

The fact that they were in that game in the final minutes says a lot about the defense ....
 
The reaction to Jones's role in the Baltimore loss does approach scapegoating levels, let's be honest.

Was that all people disliked him for, no, but he did share more than his portion of blame for that loss.

It can be argued that the bone headed move by jones started a domino effect.

Up until that point the game looked very winnable.

You are a vet. An established player in the league. You have a rookie at qb and you go and do that?

Sorry, but that was a huge momentum swing in the game that we never quite recovered from. He pretty much took away an offensive possession and spotted them 7 points.

He deserves all the blame he gets for that particular play.
 
It can be argued that the bone headed move by jones started a domino effect.

Up until that point the game looked very winnable.

You are a vet. An established player in the league. You have a rookie at qb and you go and do that?

Sorry, but that was a huge momentum swing in the game that we never quite recovered from. He pretty much took away an offensive possession and spotted them 7 points.

He deserves all the blame he gets for that particular play.

Let's not forget the next punt that he fumbled but recovered.

And I noticed something else. Most teams don't even kick the ball to returners like Manning. He's been feared as a returner since he helped the Chicago Bears to the Super Bowl. Baltimore dared and he made them pay. Teams like in the case of Baltimore seemed to actually punt the ball to Jacoby, anxiously awaiting to be treated to his typical version of the Mexican hat dance......or better yet, to a very entertaining juggling act......and if really luck, that ultimate gift from heaven.
 
Let's not forget the next punt that he fumbled but recovered.

And I noticed something else. Most teams don't even kick the ball to returners like Manning. He's been feared as a returner since he helped the Chicago Bears to the Super Bowl. Baltimore dared and he made them pay. Teams like in the case of Baltimore seemed to actually punt the ball to Jacoby, anxiously awaiting to be treated to his typical version of the Mexican hat dance......or better yet, to a very entertaining juggling act......and if really luck, that ultimate gift from heaven.

Yet Jones was voted the pro bowl alternate, surely that shows a degree if respect?
 
Scapegoated? Is that what he's saying?

Give me a freakin break. Jacoby was CODDLED. There's a fine line between mentoring (which Gary/Rick did at first) to coddling (which that mentoring turned into).

I hope Jacoby isn't going to turn into one of those stank players who bashes this team after he leaves (mainly to cover their own faings). If he does, he will feel the full wrath of Texans fans.

The author wrote the part about being scapegoated. Jacoby has no quotes in the article. I should have clarified. My bad.

The NFL articles have a lot of opinion written into them. Almost like a blog post rather than a straight journalism story. 90% of the article will be factual and then there's 10% where the author is writing in some commentary to make it sound less like a Press Release.
 
Yet Jones was voted the pro bowl alternate, surely that shows a degree if respect?

In 2011, he was ranked 3rd in yards returned........but that was because he had the 2nd most attempts.

When you look at his average return, he wasn't even ranked in the top 10. In fact, he ranked tied for 13th.

Go figure.
 
Yet Jones was voted the pro bowl alternate, surely that shows a degree if respect?

List me the punt returners in the AFC last year, the whole conference sucked at PR, its a statement of the lack of talent at the position in the AFC, that Jacoby was alternate based on past success.

You know your teams in good shape when...the release of your 4th WR/PR is the main talking point going into training camp :dancer:
 
with the jags push to win the superbowl with their punt team, we had to do something drastic just to keep pace. i'm hearing that the texans have plans to trade two firsts and a third to chicago for devon hester who will never come off the field - always 40 yards behind the play incase of sneak punts.

jones couldnt handle the pressure and asked to be released.
 
It can be argued that the bone headed move by jones started a domino effect.

Up until that point the game looked very winnable.

You are a vet. An established player in the league. You have a rookie at qb and you go and do that?

Sorry, but that was a huge momentum swing in the game that we never quite recovered from. He pretty much took away an offensive possession and spotted them 7 points.

He deserves all the blame he gets for that particular play.
I won't argue that momentum can be a game changer, but if the team is SB bound, 2 mistakes won't be enough to knock them out of the running. It's illogical to put all that blame on JacJo, or all of it on T.J. GK shares some of it, as well as the rest of the offense. And I wouldn't put more blame on JacJo than I do anyone else. Mainly for the fact that I imagine that he has enough guilt for what happened already, he doesn't need others to be pointing the finger at him to make him feel any worse.

Personally, I think us losing in the playoffs is a blessing in disguise (though that wasn't my original thought/feeling). If we had made it into the SB, consider the amount of pressure we'd have to return this year, and to win it this year. Personally, I still think we're a season or two away from being real contenders, and continue to prefer to have a gradual improvement instead of an explosion and immediate decompression. Crawl, walk, run, as it were.
 
2 turnovers gave the Ravens 14 points
Jacoby cost 7 when the Ravens got the ball at the 2 and Flacco threw a 1 yard TD

Yates INT gave the Ravens the ball at the Texans 38 and they scored a TD there

Ravens ended up with like 227 yards of total offense

just can't give that offense gifts (or any offense)
 
I won't argue that momentum can be a game changer, but if the team is SB bound, 2 mistakes won't be enough to knock them out of the running. It's illogical to put all that blame on JacJo, or all of it on T.J. GK shares some of it, as well as the rest of the offense. And I wouldn't put more blame on JacJo than I do anyone else. Mainly for the fact that I imagine that he has enough guilt for what happened already, he doesn't need others to be pointing the finger at him to make him feel any worse.

Personally, I think us losing in the playoffs is a blessing in disguise (though that wasn't my original thought/feeling). If we had made it into the SB, consider the amount of pressure we'd have to return this year, and to win it this year. Personally, I still think we're a season or two away from being real contenders, and continue to prefer to have a gradual improvement instead of an explosion and immediate decompression. Crawl, walk, run, as it were.

I posted a clip of the opening game in 2011 between Maryland and Miami (FL). It's in the Davin Meggett thread.

Maryland won the game 32 to 24--Maryland wins that game by eight points.

In that game, Maryland was the lucky recipient of TWO touchdowns via two turnovers that were both returned for TDs. In essence, had Miami not had those two untimely turnovers that led to two immediate Maryland TDs, Miami wins the game 24 to 18.

Tell me how Jacoby Jones' bad decision making and its immediate consequences did not impact the playoff game? It absolutely did. Someone else in this same discussion detailed how that 7 points dictated how the Texans approached the final few possessions we had in that game. Without the JJ fumble and subsequent TD by the Ravens, we could have played the final few possessions differently and only needed a FG. Instead, we had to go the length of the field and get a TD.

What is ironic, as well, is that Arian Foster fumbled the ball late in the game and Jacoby Jones was luckily in the right spot at the right time to pounce on it and recover it for us. Jacoby was also in the right place at the right time in the last Colts game (at Indy) when a pass ricocheted off of one of our other WRs (or a TE, can't remember which) and he plucks it out of the air for what was truly a miracle catch and allowed us to continue the drive.

However, his two fortunate recoveries do not outweigh the singular bad moment he had in a pivotal game in the playoffs that really cost us. In addition, he never really progressed to the point that he was a consistent and reliable part of our offense. A couple years back, IIRC not sure on the exact timeframe here, Kubiak let Kris Brown finish the year even after we all knew it was over for him. He let Jacoby continue to field punts in the Ravens playoff game, too, and so I admire that the HC lets his guys finish out. But when it comes to beginning a new year, we did the right thing by signing Rackers to take over for Kris. We did the right thing by letting Jacoby go too. It wasn't going to get better for Kris nor for Jacoby. A favor was done to both guys, IMO.

Buckner for the Red Sox had an equally bad moment that determined the outcome of a World Series game vs. the Mets. Players have these moments, and unfortunately I think they have to own those moments for all its worth. Good or bad, decisive or non-decisive, the player has to own the moment. it's what all of sports depends upon, IMO, the idea that great moments of triumph and great moments of defeat are balanced upon the singular efforts of a player and his team.
 
If only, if only, if only.

My point is that there are many things that might have led to a victory. JacJo not muffing that punt isn't the lone "if only".

Besides, you never know what would've happened if JacJo hadn't made that mistake. For all you know, it could've resulted in us getting into the red zone and having to settle for a field goal. Or it could've resulted in one of our skill players getting injured.

Don't get me wrong, I think his time with us was up before this past season, and didn't understand why we would re-sign him, but I don't think it's fair to say that it's his fault we didn't win against the Ravens. It is fair to say that he had an obvious hand in that loss, but it wasn't completely his fault, and it's not something that put us in a losing position. The game was ours to win, and we didn't, because of a number of mistakes, including JacJo's.
 
i dont really care why we lost, our who is to blame. All i care about is making it to the big game this season. We had a solid draft, we have a better than average team, so lets all move on and look for bigger and better things this coming season !!!
 
It can be argued that the bone headed move by jones started a domino effect.

Up until that point the game looked very winnable.

You are a vet. An established player in the league. You have a rookie at qb and you go and do that?

Sorry, but that was a huge momentum swing in the game that we never quite recovered from. He pretty much took away an offensive possession and spotted them 7 points.

He deserves all the blame he gets for that particular play.

I totally agree with any blame he gets for trying to field a punt on the bounce with the Ravens' punt cover guys bearing down on him. No excuse for a punt return specialist to screw up in that fashion. None.

But to say that play changed the game from being "winnable" with less than five minutes had gone by in a sixty-minute game....? That's a bit much. If we let them take our 'nads five minutes into the game then we deserved to lose. And the whole, we "spotted them seven points" thing, while true, shouldn't have bothered the team at all. In 2010 we spotted that same Raven team 21 points with less than a half to go and came back to tie them. That's why I maintain, if Schaub had been in, with the sucky game Flacco was having, we'd have beat them going away. yeah, Jacoby screwed the pooch, big time, but to put that whole loss on Jacoby ain't nothing but scapegoating.
 
I totally agree with any blame he gets for trying to field a punt on the bounce with the Ravens' punt cover guys bearing down on him. No excuse for a punt return specialist to screw up in that fashion. None.

But to say that play changed the game from being "winnable" with less than five minutes had gone by in a sixty-minute game....? That's a bit much. If we let them take our 'nads five minutes into the game then we deserved to lose. And the whole, we "spotted them seven points" thing, while true, shouldn't have bothered the team at all. In 2010 we spotted that same Raven team 21 points with less than a half to go and came back to tie them. That's why I maintain, if Schaub had been in, with the sucky game Flacco was having, we'd have beat them going away. yeah, Jacoby screwed the pooch, big time, but to put that whole loss on Jacoby ain't nothing but scapegoating.


Did you miss the word 'very' in front of winnable?


Who said anything about blaming the whole loss on Jacoby anyways?

My point was that was a huge game changing play that killed any momentum we had going at the time.

I know you don't care for TJ Yates, but it's absolutely ridiculous to not give Jacoby the rightful blame he deserves for that play. Yates was a rookie, on the road in the play-offs playing against THAT Ravens defense.

Jacoby was a multi year vet and all he had to do is just get away from the damn ball.


It's like if your oldest child and your youngest child make a bad decision. Well who are you going to be more dissapointed with?

Jacoby's mistake was huge. period. It was a huge momentum shift in the game.
 
Did you miss the word 'very' in front of winnable?


Who said anything about blaming the whole loss on Jacoby anyways?

My point was that was a huge game changing play that killed any momentum we had going at the time.

I know you don't care for TJ Yates, but it's absolutely ridiculous to not give Jacoby the rightful blame he deserves for that play. Yates was a rookie, on the road in the play-offs playing against THAT Ravens defense.

Jacoby was a multi year vet and all he had to do is just get away from the damn ball.


It's like if your oldest child and your youngest child make a bad decision. Well who are you going to be more dissapointed with?

Jacoby's mistake was huge. period. It was a huge momentum shift in the game.

I tell my 11-yr-old daughter this all the time. She gets in trouble for doing something I have repeatedly, for the past 7 years or so, told her to NOT do...and all she can do is whine about how I am harder on her than I am on her 7-yr-old little sister.

"Well, darling...you're also four years older than your little sister. And quite frankly, she seems to get the message faster than you despite being four years younger. Are you sure you want to go with that line of defense in this trial?" Stops her dead in her tracks every time.

You cannot touch that ball THAT deep near the end zone in a playoff game...when it's bouncing in the air and gunners in your face. As soon as that happened, the air was let out of Texans nation. You knew it was going to be a tough road to travel the rest of the game after that happened. It was an uphill struggle for the Texans after that. Spotted them 7 points.

It's not like JJ Watt jumped into the air and freakishly snagged the Andy Dalton pass out of thin air...this was Jacoby Jones making THE worst decision of his entire career in the exact spot that he couldn't afford to make it. It would be the same as a four-year QB blindly tossing the ball behind his back up into the air and allowing the defense to catch it and score off it. A four-year QB knows better. He takes the sack.

For as many people being pissed off about Rosenfels trying to be the hero one day versus the Colts...there is a lack of consistency about the same type of situation with Jacoby Jones. Both guys tried to do too much with the odds stacked against them. E for effort but F for you-know-what.
 
Did you miss the word 'very' in front of winnable?
Speaking of missing things... did you miss my opening sentence? :)
I totally agree with any blame he gets for trying to field a punt on the bounce with the Ravens' punt cover guys bearing down on him. No excuse for a punt return specialist to screw up in that fashion. None.


Who said anything about blaming the whole loss on Jacoby anyways?
this sentence does...
It can be argued that the bone headed move by jones started a domino effect.

Up until that point the game looked very winnable.
Which infers that after that point no longer looked winnable. My issue with statements like that infer that the game was lost at that point. With less than five minutes gone off the clock. Seriously?? Folks really had that little faith in our team??

I wonder why...
Our "pourous" defense perhaps? Nope. In fact they're probably why the game looked "winnable". They were keeping the Ravens offense in check. They allowed only 3 pts in the final 46 minutes.
Lack of a decent running attack? Nope, Foster had that covered. First dude, ALL YEAR, to ring up a 100-yd game on that defense. He put our only TD on the board.
The only thing left is the ineffective play of Yates over those 46 minutes when our D shut down the Ravens.

I know you don't care for TJ Yates, but it's absolutely ridiculous to not give Jacoby the rightful blame he deserves for that play. Yates was a rookie, on the road in the play-offs playing against THAT Ravens defense.
I never said that. I just would rather have Schaub at the helm. One day Yates will be fine. But now he needs more "seasoning".

Jacoby was a multi year vet and all he had to do is just get away from the damn ball.
Completely agree.

It's like if your oldest child and your youngest child make a bad decision. Well who are you going to be more dissapointed with?
The oldest....at first. Except that the oldest screwed up - and no doubt badly - only once. Meanwhile the youngest kept repeating the same damned mistake... over and over and over... So I am seriously disappointed with them both.

And, to be honest, I'm disappointed in me for not being a better teacher to them both.
 
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