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It’s time for Cal McNair to take over moving forward.

Texansballer74 said:
I use to be able to post a gif on here. What happened
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My biggest single complaint about the Smith/O'Brien Drafts have been their apparent policy of placing a higher priority on the guard/center position than the tackle position in the offensive line which I still fail to understand ?
 
IDEXAN said:
My biggest single complaint about the Smith/O'Brien Drafts have been their apparent policy of placing a higher priority on the guard/center position than the tackle position in the offensive line which I still fail to understand ?
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Duane Brown at LT accounts for much of that in my mind...the other part is that for a team to be consistently good, they HAVE to FIND and KEEP players from somewhere that's not the first 3 rounds of the draft.
 
xtruroyaltyx said:
No what I said was “biased” not racist though I guess the two can be perceived as being interchangeable in this instance. But I stayed away from the word racist on purpose because I don’t think Porky is a full blown racist to the point he’s actively wishing evil things against minorities.
I do believe he has biases against black people and he’s clearly shown this in the past when he was angry and called Black people a “sick race of people”.

If you do not remember that or weren’t around when it happened then I can understand your confusion. I’d just say be careful who you align yourself with and what hills you’re dying on.
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I don’t remember the exact context but I said the culture was sick as it related to a very specific subset of broader life. Context is everything.
 
Porky said:
I don’t remember the exact context but I said the culture was sick as it related to a very specific subset of broader life. Context is everything.
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No you didn’t.

Your exact words were “sick race of people” and you even erased the post and apologized for it.

Maybe you want to pull a McNair and retract the apology since there’s no need for an apology if you didn’t do anything wrong, right?
 
xtruroyaltyx said:
No you didn’t.

Your exact words were “sick race of people” and you even erased the post and apologized for it.

Maybe you want to pull a McNair and retract the apology since there’s no need for an apology if you didn’t do anything wrong, right?
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I certainly do not recall using those words whatsoever, but if I did - it would have been within limited confines of a broader discussion. Using such broad language would definitely be out of character and in no way reflects my view on anyone of any race. I treat everyone equally from all walks of life.

If I did say that (again I honestly don't remember using those words) then I do apologize. That's not at all representative of me in any way and if I offended you, or anyone else here on TT, in any way with those words I'm truly sorry.

Sometimes emotion overrules the tongue (or keyboard) but that is no excuse for acting like a jerk, so to any extent that I did, I regret doing so. I'll try to better keep myself in check to make sure I'm not going over the line. There are times where I may say things in a provocative style to enhance the debate or draw sharper distinctions, but I never intend to truly offend anyone. Again - I am sorry if I did so.
 
Questions with obvious answers:

1. Does McNair appear to be a racist in the eyes of 90% of black people?

Yes, and also to many people of other races.

2. Is this harmful to the organization?

Yes.

3. Does McNair realize, if so does he care?

He clearly doesn’t care or he wouldn’t have offered up his apology retraction without being asked about the situation.

4. Will McNair step aside for any reason other than health?

No, he’s the owner until he dies.

5. When Bob McNair passes away, and his son takes over, will the perception of the organization and its ownership change?

No, same family, same perception. Especially when the son dresses like he’s at “bring your son to work day” half the time. I mean really, who wears the exact same outfit as ANYONE, especially their own father, when attending a public event with that person? Reaks of chip off the old block in a sad type of way.

At some point, you have to recognize that you are not only supporting your city when you support the Texans, you’re supporting the owner. You’re supporting the way he runs the organization. The person who profits the most from every dollar you spend on the team is Bob McNair. The same guy that paid very little for the stadium that was built for his team. The only reason he signed on for an NFL team here is because the city was willing to basically gift him a stadium, which are argued by many to provide little or even negative economic impact over the course of their existence. Just wait until he demands a new stadium, who do you think is going to pay for that? This is the same guy who put personal relationships first, while team/staff quality was secondary, at best secondary. He’s not paying for a new facility for his toy business, that’s the city’s job. He’s doing the city a favor, remember?

I’d argue team/staff quality is last on his list. He’s already proven that he’ll damage the team’s ability to acquire the best talent (even staff) by continually running his mouth and frankly, lying about his comments. They sure traded Duane Brown quickly, with literally the worst depth at the tackle position in the entire league. Hell, we didn’t even have a right tackle to move over to be a temporary replacement. We just went all out on an UDFA and an overdrafted rookie. Rick Smith’s long tenure here is another very clear sign of this as well.

Sports is odd in that we are so loyal to our teams, unlike many other businesses. We usually don’t think about the owner when we think about our support for the team, but it’s important to understand that he’s the person that profits the most from your support.

So, ask yourself, do you really want to support this person?
 
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TexansSeminole said:
Questions with obvious answers:

1. Does McNair appear to be a racist in the eyes of 90% of black people?

Yes, and also to many people of other races.

2. Is this harmful to the organization?

Yes.

3. Does McNair realize, if so does he care?

He clearly doesn’t care or he wouldn’t have offered up his apology retraction without being asked about the situation.

4. Will McNair step aside for any reason other than health?

No, he’s the owner until he dies.

5. When Bob McNair passes away, and his son takes over, will the perception of the organization and its ownership change?

No, same family, same perception. Especially when the son dresses like he’s at “bring your son to work day” half the time. I mean really, who wears the exact same outfit as ANYONE, especially their own father, when attending a public event with that person? Reaks of chip off the old block in a sad type of way.

At some point, you have to recognize that you are not only supporting your city when you support the Texans, you’re supporting the owner. You’re supporting the way he runs the organization. The person who profits the most from every dollar you spend on the team is Bob McNair. The same guy that paid very little for the stadium that was built for his team. The only reason he signed on for an NFL team here is because the city was willing to basically gift him a stadium, which are argued by many to provide little or even negative economic impact over the course of their existence. Just wait until he demands a new stadium, who do you think is going to pay for that? This is the same guy who put personal relationships first, while team/staff quality was secondary, at best secondary. He’s not paying for a new facility for his toy business, that’s the city’s job. He’s doing the city a favor, remember?

I’d argue team/staff quality is last on his list. He’s already proven that he’ll damage the team’s ability to acquire the best talent (even staff) by continually running his mouth and frankly, lying about his comments. They sure traded Duane Brown quickly, with literally the worst depth at the tackle position in the entire league. Hell, we didn’t even have a right tackle to move over to be a temporary replacement. We just went all out on an UDFA and an overdrafted rookie. Rick Smith’s long tenure here is another very clear sign of this as well.

Sports is odd in that we are so loyal to our teams, unlike many other businesses. We usually don’t think about the owner when we think about our support for the team, but it’s important to understand that he’s the person that profits the most from your support.

So, ask yourself, do you really want to support this person?
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To summarize, our problem is a racist owner and a black GM?
 
Max said:
To summarize, our problem is a racist owner and a black GM?
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I don’t really feel like doing the 5 post dance to get to your real question, so can you be more direct?

Are you trying to point out that he hired and kept a black GM for many years, thus that proves he isn’t racist?

I think I was pretty clear in saying that McNair is the main problem with the organization. Rick Smith is just one of the symptoms. I say “is,” because we all know he isn’t done here.
 
TexansSeminole said:
I don’t really feel like doing the 5 post dance to get to your real question, so can you be more direct?

Are you trying to point out that he hired and kept a black GM for many years, thus that proves he isn’t racist?

I think I was pretty clear in saying that McNair is the main problem with the organization. Rick Smith is just one of the symptoms. I say “is,” because we all know he isn’t done here.
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Seems like what I said was pretty straight forward. You're asking us to not support the team because the owner 'appears' racist (presumably on debatable comments he's made). It's going to take a little bit more for me to stop supporting the Texans when the owner has said some debatable things that could lead folks to come to the 'racist' conclusion when it's a fact that his GM was black.
 
TexansSeminole said:
I don’t really feel like doing the 5 post dance to get to your real question, so can you be more direct?

Are you trying to point out that he hired and kept a black GM for many years, thus that proves he isn’t racist?

I think I was pretty clear in saying that McNair is the main problem with the organization. Rick Smith is just one of the symptoms. I say “is,” because we all know he isn’t done here.
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I gave many reasons why McNair should lose support. I hardly touched on the racism thing.

It also doesn’t take a high IQ to read between the lines here. Go to the latest video posted and read the comments. You’ll find people saying “what’s racist about the word inmates, it’s just a figure of speech?” Then, as soon as someone offers a different viewpoint in reply, the OP immediately starts making racist comments, telling people to “go back to gangbanging,” and “atleast I know my father.”

I don’t want to associate with that group of people. You’ll find in that comment thread that those are the people trying to defend McNair’s comments.
 
Max said:
Do they ask them to run their company?
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Run the company? The company runs itself in terms of profit. The GM has very little impact on the bottom line. Rick Smith was just a face. That’s abundantly clear given that his ability and the results he produced were not important for so many years.
 
TexansSeminole said:
I gave many reasons why McNair should lose support. I hardly touched on the racism thing.

It also doesn’t take a high IQ to read between the lines here. Go to the latest video posted and read the comments. You’ll find people saying “what’s racist about the word inmates, it’s just a figure of speech?” Then, as soon as someone offers a different viewpoint in reply, the OP immediately starts making racist comments, telling people to “go back to gangbanging,” and “atleast I know my father.”

I don’t want to associate with that group of people. You’ll find in that comment thread that those are the people trying to defend McNair’s comments.
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It's #1 on your list and all that you're talking about in this post. So why are you asking us to not support the team if it's not racism?

TexansSeminole said:
Run the company? The company runs itself in terms of profit. The GM has very little impact on the bottom line. Rick Smith was just a face. That’s abundantly clear given that his ability and the results he produced were not important for so many years.
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Yes, 'run the company'. Whether or not he did a good job doesn't change the fact that he asked him to be in charge.
 
Max said:
It's #1 on your list and all that you're talking about in this post.
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I meant to hit reply on this, but even with the mistake, it should be rather obvious I wasn’t replying to myself.

Max said:
Seems like what I said was pretty straight forward. You're asking us to not support the team because the owner 'appears' racist (presumably on debatable comments he's made). It's going to take a little bit more for me to stop supporting the Texans when the owner has said some debatable things that could lead folks to come to the 'racist' conclusion when it's a fact that his GM was black.
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What are you talking about here? You said I told you not to support the Texans because McNair is racist, thus I responded to that with a relevant discussion. Holy hell, you’re dense.
 
Max said:
Seems like what I said was pretty straight forward. You're asking us to not support the team because the owner 'appears' racist (presumably on debatable comments he's made). It's going to take a little bit more for me to stop supporting the Texans when the owner has said some debatable things that could lead folks to come to the 'racist' conclusion when it's a fact that his GM was black.
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Donald Sterling had a long-term "black" GM also.

The man of prejudice is much more likely to hire and keep and black person in a position even when that employee has proven to be average at best. It is called tokenism.

Edit: People who don't use skin color, gender, etc as a condition of employment, don't have a fear of hiring or firing a worker based on job performance only
 
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Max said:
Yes, 'run the company'. Whether or not he did a good job doesn't change the fact that he asked him to be in charge.
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The owners run the company. They are responsible for negotiating their profitability with the league. They are the decision makers and negotiators in terms of the lifeblood of the business. There are not many businesses where the day to day decision making has so little impact on the bottom line. I’d hardly say a GM “runs the company.” Name me one CEO who has as little impact on the bottom line and valuation of the company they represent than a GM of an NFL team.
 
Correct. The #1,2 & 3 priorities for a GM are personnel. Bob is CEO, Cal is COO & Rootes is President. They handle the business.
 
TexansSeminole said:
The owners run the company. They are responsible for negotiating their profitability with the league. They are the decision makers and negotiators in terms of the lifeblood of the business. There are not many businesses where the day to day decision making has so little impact on the bottom line. I’d hardly say a GM “runs the company.” Name me one CEO who has as little impact on the bottom line and valuation of the company they represent than a GM of an NFL team.
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The discussion is about the color of the GM and why a racist would choose a black GM if he's a racist - - not what the role of a GM is. You don't want to support the team because McNair is a racist - knock yourself out. I require a little higher burden of proof before jumping to those conclusions. If you're saying he's not a racist but just appears to be one - you're going to stop supporting the team because of that? Weak sauce.
 
Max said:
The discussion is about the color of the GM and why a racist would choose a black GM if he's a racist - - not what the role of a GM is. You don't want to support the team because McNair is a racist - knock yourself out. I require a little higher burden of proof before jumping to those conclusions. If you're saying he's not a racist but just appears to be one - you're going to stop supporting the team because of that? Weak sauce.
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Perhaps I wasn’t clear with my overall point. It’s not so much that he’s making remarks that many consider racist, it’s many things and what they combined point toward. In regards to the comments, if he decided to go full Donald and instead starting talking about how you can grab ***** whenever you want when you’re in a position of power, it’d be equally, or nearly equally, as damaging to the team. It’s about him continually running his mouth in a damaging way to the organization, and his clear indifference to the consequences.

In addition, if you’d have read, you’d see I also spoke about his “running of the business,” in regards to hiring and retaining incompetent staff (medical staff included, though I didn’t mention them), his acquisition and placement of the team initially, and how that further shows that it’s not about bringing joy to his fellow Houstonians. It was about a nearly free stadium and a consumer base so desperate for a team that sellouts were almost guaranteed. How many years did they sell out? How poor were they early on?

I also touched on the Duane Brown trade. I don’t think he traded Brown due to anything outside of the fact that Brown called him out on his BS. It could have been any manner of offensive comment, and it’s the same result, it wasn’t really about the specific content of his comments. This wouldn’t be an issue if McNair doesn’t make his inmates comment and then later lie about the meaning behind it. Again, indifference to damaging the team after creating a situation that was unnecessary.
 
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Max said:
The discussion is about the color of the GM and why a racist would choose a black GM if he's a racist - - not what the role of a GM is. You don't want to support the team because McNair is a racist - knock yourself out. I require a little higher burden of proof before jumping to those conclusions. If you're saying he's not a racist but just appears to be one - you're going to stop supporting the team because of that? Weak sauce.
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I thought now would be a good time to pull McNair's actual statement:

Arguably the most inflammatory moment came when, according to Seth Wickersham and Don Van Natta. Jr. of ESPN.com, Texans owner Bob McNair used a common figure of speech when referring to the power the players have acquired via the question of whether they’ll stand for the national anthem.

“We can’t have the inmates running the prison,” McNair said.

The racist slur "word" must've been "inmates". I don't believe he stated, "Black, Brown, Red, Yellow, White, etc Inmates" in that statement. Based on his statement, the word "inmates" would reflect on "all" players involved in kneeling, which by estimations included players of "all" ethnicity. Although I don't agree with his remark, it was in no way aimed at any particular race...so, for the life of me, I don't know why the African-American community of football players wanted to take ownership of this derogatory statement. If the shoe doesn't fit, don't wear it.

Is every African-American football player or organization employee with the Texans in agreement that McNair is a racist? If not, what is sad, those that think he is a racist will sometimes reference those that do not agree with them as, "Uncle Tom's"....that's pretty racist in its own right and by no means am I saying this is stated by everyone but I have heard this statement used on numerous occasions. Me personally, I think the blow back on McNair's statement would've been better understood if every Texans player that found the term "inmates" offensive should've approached McNair.
 
infantrycak said:
The nearly free stadium part isn't true but that's another discussion. Believe every game has been sold out still.
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It actually is.

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What was not really discussed at that time -- and something that could have easily torpedoed the second basketball arena referendum and sent the Rockets packing to Louisville -- was that Reliant Stadium would cost about as much as both other facilities combined and very little would come from the team, something opponents to Minute Maid and Toyota Center had argued over vehemently. In fact, former Oilers owner Bud Adams was laughed out of town and all the way to Nashville when he suggested the city assist him in building a retractible roof stadium in downtown for which he would foot nearly half the bill. Not only did the Texans get an essentially free stadium, which represents nearly half of that $1 billion McNair supposedly paid to get the team, but they get 75 percent of the more than $300 million in naming rights being paid by Reliant. It's the third largest naming rights deal in all of sports. Toyota Center clocks in at under a third of that amount and Minute Maid is a little over half
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According to another site:

Private financing accounted for 57% of the $450M (Wikipedia shows $350M) reported cost. That’s $256M going by the higher estimate of the stadium cost. He didn’t even finance all of that. He started a holding group to attract private investors. The team pockets 75% of the naming rights fees. NRG signed a $300M, 32 year naming rights deal in 2000. That’s $225M. If you discount only those cash flows at a reasonable discount rate, it’s close enough considering the magnitude and predictablity, compared to other investments, of the annual profit that follows.

He paid very little for the stadium in the grand scheme.
 
TexansSeminole said:
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He paid very little for the stadium in the grand scheme.
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Yeah, getting investors is not free. It's not donations. PSL sales, naming rights, etc. are corporate sales. They are not free. Those payments largely came after construction as well.

Burrow down and what was publicly financed (not publicly paid) was about half. That also was not free. The county issued bonds and there is an obligation to repay. That's financing, not free.

But don't let this bog down your main point.
 
OptimisticTexan said:
I thought now would be a good time to pull McNair's actual statement:

Arguably the most inflammatory moment came when, according to Seth Wickersham and Don Van Natta. Jr. of ESPN.com, Texans owner Bob McNair used a common figure of speech when referring to the power the players have acquired via the question of whether they’ll stand for the national anthem.

“We can’t have the inmates running the prison,” McNair said.

The racist slur "word" must've been "inmates". I don't believe he stated, "Black, Brown, Red, Yellow, White, etc Inmates" in that statement. Based on his statement, the word "inmates" would reflect on "all" players involved in kneeling, which by estimations included players of "all" ethnicity. Although I don't agree with his remark, it was in no way aimed at any particular race...so, for the life of me, I don't know why the African-American community of football players wanted to take ownership of this derogatory statement. If the shoe doesn't fit, don't wear it.

Is every African-American football player or organization employee with the Texans in agreement that McNair is a racist? If not, what is sad, those that think he is a racist will sometimes reference those that do not agree with them as, "Uncle Tom's"....that's pretty racist in its own right and by no means am I saying this is stated by everyone but I have heard this statement used on numerous occasions. Me personally, I think the blow back on McNair's statement would've been better understood if every Texans player that found the term "inmates" offensive should've approached McNair.
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I'm aware of the quote and spent time arguing on the side of folks who read it as a racist statement. It was actually directed at protesters who are either black or taking up a black cause. I (along with Texans Seminole) thought it would hurt us in FA and it's debatable whether or not it has. You can argue that those interpreting the statement as racist have legitimate feelings and that the person making the statement isn't a racist at the same time. McNair's problem IMO is that he isn't capable of understanding the situation or doesn't give a **** - neither of which make for a good owner in this day and age especially when taking other shortcomings into regard (agree with TS in that regard). My exception with TS is regarding whether or not we should support the team because of it. I'm used to idiots owning the teams I root for - don't see any reason for that to change now.
 
infantrycak said:
Yeah, getting investors is not free. It's not donations. PSL sales, naming rights, etc. are corporate sales. They are not free. Those payments largely came after construction as well.

Burrow down and what was publicly financed (not publicly paid) was about half. That also was not free. The county issued bonds and there is an obligation to repay. That's financing, not free.

But don't let this bog down your main point.
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I did say nearly free, which is not an uncommon way to describe it. I’m sure he paid what would be considered a significant sum on its face, but comparatively, it’s quite small.

But as you said, my main point is that nobody owes McNair a pat on the back. He negotiated a favorable deal, comparatively, on an investment with a very predictable set of cash flows. Rarely predictable. And he did it in a city full of desperate consumers.

I’m not blaming him for that or holding it against him. Good on him. I’m just not under any illusion that he sacrificed his wealth building goal to bring this team to Houston, quite the opposite. The nature in which he founded the team in Houston is not a reason for me to give him the benefit of the doubt.
 
Max said:
My exception with TS is regarding whether or not we should support the team because of it. I'm used to idiots owning the teams I root for - don't see any reason for that to change now.
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Again, perhaps I did not word it in the best way. I wasn’t telling you not to support him, merely stating my opinions and voicing some of the questions I ask myself, especially in regards to supporting the team, atleast at the same level as I had previously.

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Is this the NSZ?
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Do we really want it there? This is by far the most significant story for this team in this offseason. Maybe any offseason, depending on where this takes us. I think it’s a serious topic but yes it’s a Texans topic that deserves to be in this main section of the forum. IMO.
 
TexansSeminole said:
Questions with obvious answers:

1. Does McNair appear to be a racist in the eyes of 90% of black people?

Yes, and also to many people of other races.

2. Is this harmful to the organization?

Yes.

3. Does McNair realize, if so does he care?

He clearly doesn’t care or he wouldn’t have offered up his apology retraction without being asked about the situation.


5. When Bob McNair passes away, and his son takes over, will the perception of the organization and its ownership change?

No, same family, same perception. Especially when the son dresses like he’s at “bring your son to work day” half the time. I mean really, who wears the exact same outfit as ANYONE, especially their own father, when attending a public event with that person? Reaks of chip off the old block in a sad type of way.
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TexansSeminole said:
I gave many reasons why McNair should lose support. I hardly touched on the racism thing.
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TexansSeminole said:
At some point, you have to recognize that you are not only supporting your city when you support the Texans, you’re supporting the owner.

So, ask yourself, do you really want to support this person?
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TexansSeminole said:
Again, perhaps I did not word it in the best way. I wasn’t telling you not to support him, merely stating my opinions and voicing some of the questions I ask myself, especially in regards to supporting the team, atleast at the same level as I had previously.
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I'm clear on one thing -- I'm too dense to understand what you're saying.
 
infantrycak said:
As it doesn't involve partisan politics & does involve the Texans, seems fine here for now.
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Actually it does sorta because I think the comments that McNair made in the locker room several years ago about his displeasure with the election results in 2008 was
not because Barry was black but rather because he was Democrat.
 
IDEXAN said:
Actually it does sorta because I think the comments that McNair made in the locker room several years ago about his displeasure with the election results in 2008 was
not because Barry was black but rather because he was Democrat.
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And was that a big part of the discussion until you brought it up? No, just lumped in with the McNair makes comments that piss off the players bundle.

Just let the thread flow and we'll see where it goes.
 
Max said:
I'm aware of the quote and spent time arguing on the side of folks who read it as a racist statement. It was actually directed at protesters who are either black or taking up a black cause. I (along with Texans Seminole) thought it would hurt us in FA and it's debatable whether or not it has. You can argue that those interpreting the statement as racist have legitimate feelings and that the person making the statement isn't a racist at the same time. McNair's problem IMO is that he isn't capable of understanding the situation or doesn't give a **** - neither of which make for a good owner in this day and age especially when taking other shortcomings into regard (agree with TS in that regard). My exception with TS is regarding whether or not we should support the team because of it. I'm used to idiots owning the teams I root for - don't see any reason for that to change now.
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Can't say that the Adams Family and McNair's have been a double dose of good luck. Just happy they decided to put professional football franchises in Houston.
 
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TexansSeminole said:
I’m definitely clear again on why I moved away from the forum for a few months and was enjoying it.

Too many intentionally ******* dense people on this forum. It’s like slamming your head against the wall over and over.

I’m done.
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I'm just glad that you were able to set aside your contempt for us stupid folk long enough to grace us with your brilliance and splendor. May your Pompousness enjoy your reprieve.
 
ArlingtonTexan said:
Donald Sterling had a long-term "black" GM also.

The man of prejudice is much more likely to hire and keep and black person in a position even when that employee has proven to be average at best. It is called tokenism.

Edit: People who don't use skin color, gender, etc as a condition of employment, don't have a fear of hiring or firing a worker based on job performance only
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Well said
 
infantrycak said:
And was that a big part of the discussion until you brought it up? No, just lumped in with the McNair makes comments that piss off the players bundle.

Just let the thread flow and we'll see where it goes.
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I know people who hate black folks and I also know people who hate Republicans or Democrats obviously depending on their own party affiliation and I can see McNair in the latter group but not in the former. And parden me for my belated comments.
 
TexansSeminole said:
Use your ears? It’s not meant to be an exact figure, obviously. Or atleast, I thought that was obvious.
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Back in my day when you called a person a racist and made the accusation that 90% of a race thought that and other minorities you would have to have some type of facts backing it up.

But let me guess, the people that you talk to is your proof.

And when someone asks you, you admit what you say isn’t accurate and we should know you are pulling numbers out of the air.

Right...

Tell me again why you left this board?
 
Some of y’all are so out of touch and it comes up constantly in these big conversations. It’s why JB was kind of questioning the NSZ idea here. It made sense, it’s just sad it’s almost necessary. When we get on these topics, it’s the same group that clearly doesn’t understand. They just don’t get it, and never will.

“Back in my day.” Wtf are you talking about? Back when black people were routinely and openly called niggers? Back when you hardly spoke to black people or they hardly spoke out for themselves outside of specific situations because of fear. Gtfo.

You act like you have a beat on the black community. What have they told you regarding this situation? Probably not a god damn thing. Wonder why?

I’m not here to educate you on basic **** in today’s society. That’s on you.

I’m done. I’m so ******* done with this board.
 
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IDEXAN said:
I know people who hate black folks and I also know people who hate Republicans or Democrats obviously depending on their own party affiliation and I can see McNair in the latter group but not in the former. And parden me for my belated comments.
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I’ve tried to not view or call people racist as much as I have in the past. I think there are people who are outright racist...they’ll admit it....if not openly in society, then to people they feel comfortable admitting it to.

And then I think there are people who are biased against certain races and are almost in denial or maybe even unaware.

Tbh, I think that there’s a whole lot of people in society that fall under description 2. But people are stubborn. It’s like being in a relationship and your spouse has a complaint and you don’t validate it or self reflect because you feel like youre doing everything you need to do. Or if your boss gives you constructive criticism and you let it go in one ear and out the other because you know wtf you’re doing.


As far as McNair...I don’t know the guy personally and I haven’t seen enough to declare he’s a racist. But one thing I do feel fairly confident in saying is that he is either tone deaf or doesn’t give a damn about injustices against minorities.

Does he feel a certain type of way about black people in general? Entirely possible in my mind.
 
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