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It’s time for Cal McNair to take over moving forward.
- Thread starter Mangler
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But, God forbid a man kneel on the sideline for injustice, because that really gets your panties on fire. #chumplogic
Based on the ratings drop, it seems to have gotten a bunch of panties in a wad (on fire?).
9.7% for 2017 alone is sizeable. The make-goods that the networks had to offer advertisers started in 2016, but haven't gone away.
The NBA required standing, and their ratings have only gone up, while the NFL keeps trending down.
From an NFL-as-a-whole business perspective, Bob is right.
From a Texans-need-to-stop-alienating-free-agents perspective, Bob needs to shut the hell up already!
Porky
Hall of Fame
LOl oh come on. They aren't kneeling on the sideline for religious reasons. For goodness sakes lol
xtruroyaltyx
Hall of Fame
I think you misunderstood that post.
infantrycak
Hall of Fame
Try carrying your bolding two more words.
Uncle Rico
Ur apology should be as loud as Ur disrespect was
Just keep the damn teams in the locker rooms until after the star spangled banner .. isn't that what they used to do until :cough cough: the military started to 'incentivize' team participation?
http://www.nbcsports.com/boston/new...ms-being-field-anthem-relatively-new-practice
https://thinkprogress.org/nfl-dod-national-anthem-6f682cebc7cd/
http://www.nbcsports.com/boston/new...ms-being-field-anthem-relatively-new-practice
https://thinkprogress.org/nfl-dod-national-anthem-6f682cebc7cd/
Hervoyel
BUENO!
If we get back to football on the field (any football, even preseason) and the Texans go back to scoring 30+ a game while RAC has the defense back looking like itself then nobody is going to give a crap what Bob McNair said back in March and Bob knows it. As was pointed out already he's at the IDGAF stage of life and he's not going anywhere. These rich old bastards can live for decades with the kind of health care they are able to buy. McNair's got at least another 10 years before he goes anywhere.
When he does Cal looks like a bigger dufus than his dad so I'm not necessarily in a hurry to see how that turns out.
When he does Cal looks like a bigger dufus than his dad so I'm not necessarily in a hurry to see how that turns out.
austins23
Hall of Fame
For sure. I had an Uncle (God Bless him), that used to say some stuff that made me cringe. He was in his mid 70's and just didn't GAF about it anymore. He said what he said and that was that. You dealt with it and moved on.
Carr Bombed
Hall of Fame
Hopefully the next stage of his evolution will be flipping the double bird to Tennessee Titan fans from his private box.
Seems like that's the path we're on.leebigeztx
Keep it Movin!
Thing is until like 2006 or so, players weren't even on the field for the anthem, then the military decided to pay the NFL for all the extra stuff and they took the money. Now they want to connect it together which is bs. Oh well
Uncle Rico
Ur apology should be as loud as Ur disrespect was
Hervoyel
BUENO!
Yeah well we might be seeing a return to that model where the players aren't on the field for the national anthem. The NFL owners might decide that the military money isn't worth the trouble and make it out to be a return to the way things used to be.
I would not entirely be unhappy with this. Since 9/11 the NFL has been filled to the brim with flashy bullshit patriotism imagery to the point of it making me want to gag most Sundays and I consider myself reasonably patriotic. I used to think it was awesome when they did a flyover formation at the Super Bowl but now they just about roll out the giant flag and veterans on the field at every training camp practice it feels like at times. If I could tell the owners anything and be certain that all of them could hear it I'd say "Less is more sometimes guys. Don't be afraid to just pull the plug on all this stuff and make it far less frequent (and far more special when it does happen)".
infantrycak
Hall of Fame
I think the paid for thing is being overblown. 2011-15 a total of $12.1 mil was paid. Most of that was payments to individual teams for specific items like rolling the big flag out, having a veteran ceremony, military appreciation day, wounded warrior appreciation, surprise welcome homes or having a recruitment booth.
Point is this was a pittance of money (avg $75k per team per year) to encourage more of what teams were already doing. And what they were doing was capitalizing off the patriotism of war with their demographic.
The change in 2009 was that in primetime games players came out for the anthem. In other games they already were (haven't found since when). The rule for players previously permitted players to go out for the anthem if they wanted. The rule also said players should stand, not that they are required.
Point is this was a pittance of money (avg $75k per team per year) to encourage more of what teams were already doing. And what they were doing was capitalizing off the patriotism of war with their demographic.
The change in 2009 was that in primetime games players came out for the anthem. In other games they already were (haven't found since when). The rule for players previously permitted players to go out for the anthem if they wanted. The rule also said players should stand, not that they are required.
OB is FOS on this one. Freedom of speech doesn't extend to the workplace. NFL owners have every right to require players to stand for the anthem. As I've stated before, this issue should've been nipped in the bud at the very start.
That didn't happen, so now teams are caught between alienating a good % of fans or a good % of players.
Uncle Rico
Ur apology should be as loud as Ur disrespect was
Being 'required to stand' is still a new advent though. There were no problems with this prior to 2009 because the teams stayed in the locker rooms. Nip it in the bud by going back to that policy and allow the public to go back to loving the sport without political puppets and agendas interjecting and contributing to the fiasco.
So should OBrien be 'blacklisted' also? Maybe he will have a hard time finding work when he's fired because he has an opinion that people are free to speak their minds? OMG maybe Grand Dragon McNair will fire him! I can only wish.
Hopefully the next stage of his evolution will be flipping the double bird to Tennessee Titan fans from his private box.
Oh good grief! I hope McNair never gets to that "stage!" (Insert McNair palm here.)
I'm not in favor of black balling anyone. I was merely pointing out that 1st amendment rights don't include the workplace. If McNair is incensed enough by OB's comments, he can discipline him however he chooses.
I'm all for going back to teams staying in the locker room.
infantrycak
Hall of Fame
No he can't. Discipline is governed by the CBA. But this discussion should go in the Kaep thread in the NSZ.
Probably unnecessary at this point but best solution if needed.
Coaches are governed by the CBA?
infantrycak
Hall of Fame
You said McNair. But yes.
That's one way to look at it, if you want to look through a tube with blinders on. . .
How about a big picture analysis: "The NFL finished the regular season with TV ratings that fell nearly 10% below the previous season because of changing viewing habits, controversies facing the league and a possible saturation point in the number of games available.
The decline is also being attributed to the availability of NFL content outside of conventional TV broadcasts. The NFL's Red Zone cable channel, which takes viewers to different games whenever there is a scoring opportunity, is drawing about 1 million viewers on Sunday, pulling fans away from their regional games on CBS and Fox.
Online video highlights are also cutting into TV time.
"The audience for NFL highlights on YouTube have become pretty substantial," Mulvihill said. "Those highlights can be eight, nine or 10 minutes long, and I do worry they can be serving as a disincentive from watching the live game." - LA Times, January 2018
Younger demographics are more inclined to watch the NBA and use options beyond the traditional networks, and the reality is that the NFL has over-saturated the market with an often mediocre product.
I would not doubt that some viewership has stopped due to the protest and the inherent nature of herd mentality when a sitting president starts making mountains out of molehills (especially to distract away from his own failures), but it is far from the only, or even primary, reason for the decline.
There's also the fact that the NFL has such a stranglehold on ratings that a 10% drop still has its ratings vastly higher than any other TV event.That's one way to look at it, if you want to look through a tube with blinders on. . .
How about a big picture analysis: "The NFL finished the regular season with TV ratings that fell nearly 10% below the previous season because of changing viewing habits, controversies facing the league and a possible saturation point in the number of games available.
The decline is also being attributed to the availability of NFL content outside of conventional TV broadcasts. The NFL's Red Zone cable channel, which takes viewers to different games whenever there is a scoring opportunity, is drawing about 1 million viewers on Sunday, pulling fans away from their regional games on CBS and Fox.
Online video highlights are also cutting into TV time.
"The audience for NFL highlights on YouTube have become pretty substantial," Mulvihill said. "Those highlights can be eight, nine or 10 minutes long, and I do worry they can be serving as a disincentive from watching the live game." - LA Times, January 2018
Younger demographics are more inclined to watch the NBA and use options beyond the traditional networks, and the reality is that the NFL has over-saturated the market with an often mediocre product.
I would not doubt that some viewership has stopped due to the protest and the inherent nature of herd mentality when a sitting president starts making mountains out of molehills (especially to distract away from his own failures), but it is far from the only, or even primary, reason for the decline.
thetexanator
Veteran
pervert cal. he looks like a perv.
Uncle Rico
Ur apology should be as loud as Ur disrespect was
Low quality shitpost Donnie.
Wolfiegrrl
Fan of NFC Seahawks & AFC Texans
just when you thought **** was settling down... Has Robert McNair ever had the smarts to walk away from a bad situation? Or is this really his era of "don't give a **** no more"?
htownfan32
Hall of Fame
The human race lives too long. Senility is rampant.
Uncle Rico
Ur apology should be as loud as Ur disrespect was
The only post I will make.
Keep on talking Bobby
I'm loving this
Keep on talking Bobby
I'm loving this
xtruroyaltyx
Hall of Fame
So basically Chris Meyers and David Anderson confirm McNair is also a liar.
This latest stuff pretty much seals it for me. I can’t /won’t support this team as long as McNair is the owner.
This latest stuff pretty much seals it for me. I can’t /won’t support this team as long as McNair is the owner.
Bob is your man. You've been wrong about him this whole time:
McNair says he first got involved in football “as a civic matter.” - Wall Street Journal
See, he's just a nice guy that wanted to do something for Houston.
Of course, the article then goes on to undermine the above remark with profit incentives that he is basically against the revenue sharing model that has made the NFL what it is today. He wants bigger markets to get a bigger slice of the pie.
"As chair of a committee studying league finances, he believed the teams from bigger markets, which pulled in larger portions of the revenue, should get a fatter share of the pie." - Wall Street Journal
The duplicity is interesting. He says one thing, but actions always tend to define a man over his rhetoric.
“It shouldn’t be socialism in which everybody puts the money in the pot and split it 32 ways,” McNair says. “It was a bad time, frankly. There was a lot of animosity.” - Wall Street Journal
Except, y'know, that's what made the NFL the entertainment juggernaut and one of the cornerstones for keeping fans in all markets interested in the product.
And it's not socialism. It's a form of capitalism in a revenue sharing franchise model, one that existed well before he sold his company (and stocks) to Enron.
Don't fix it if it ain't broke, Bob.
As far as his apology retraction, who cares? I never thought he was genuine about it to begin with. It was a marketing tactic to protect his brand.
Hey man where you been ? I was thinking about forming a search party to locate you ? What's your story ? I dunno have you been deep in profound study to form a Draft strategy for the new GM and Billy ?
Honoring Earl 34
Something Witty !
chicagotexan2
Easterby = Little Finger/Cal = Fredo Corleone
McNair must've hired the same PR firm as Trump. It was old news until you're dumbass brings it all back. Too bad such successful men can't just let schit go and move one. What good does it do to bring this up again? Just so effing stupid on McNairs part.
Hervoyel
BUENO!
At this point I'm just kind of like grabbing a bucket of popcorn and taking it all in. I wonder how far this is going to go and don't really give a crap about it one way or the other. I will say if he was going to take this tack he should have done it from the very start and told everyone to go piss up a rope when the topic was blowing up all around him. Bringing it back up now doesn't really help with anything.
If he meant the league office and he didn't want to apologize then he should have said that at the start and called it a day. If he thought Duane Brown was a troublemaker who didn't mind talking out of his fourth point of contact he should have said that at the time.
If he meant the league office and he didn't want to apologize then he should have said that at the start and called it a day. If he thought Duane Brown was a troublemaker who didn't mind talking out of his fourth point of contact he should have said that at the time.
Texansballer74
The Marine
This dude is a freaking idiot
McNair says he regrets apology for 'inmates' remark
SARAH BARSHOPESPN Staff Writer2:14 PM ET2 Minute Read
Houston Texans owner Bob McNair told the Wall Street Journal that he regrets apologizing for saying, "we can't have inmates running the prison," in reference to player demonstrations and protests during the national anthem.
McNair says he regrets apology for 'inmates' remark
SARAH BARSHOPESPN Staff Writer2:14 PM ET2 Minute Read
Houston Texans owner Bob McNair told the Wall Street Journal that he regrets apologizing for saying, "we can't have inmates running the prison," in reference to player demonstrations and protests during the national anthem.
cameronkrazie86
Rookie
I'm now at that point too. If not for Deshaun Watson, I'd have been gone already. I've wasted too many years watching god awful QBs to give up watching now. However, I won't spend a cent on this team going forward as long as McNair is the owner.
I'm about one more stupid comment from away from choosing a new franchise to follow and I've been a fan since the franchise was announced. Just go away McNair.
TexansBull
Hall of Fame
Cal? Is that you?
xtruroyaltyx
Hall of Fame
Maybe I can take that approach instead of just saying fug em altogether.
Porky
Hall of Fame
I didn't mind his original comment whatsoever. And I couldn't care less if he was referring to owners, players, NFL HQ or the man on the moon. It was a benign comment that the easily offended took and ran with. I would have thought they reached their safe space by now.
However, apparently he hasn't heard the term "let sleeping dogs lie". Of course, that probably means I'm calling players dogs, but be that as it may - the **** storm had passed, so why are you getting into the car and storm chasing?
The biggest revelation to me was that he called DB out as a liar. Of course, I have no issues with that piece of excrement being called out - BUT - I don't know how that plays in the locker room and whether it has any other impacts on future FA's and such.
Discretion is the better part of valor. He should have kept his mouth shut for the sake of the team.
However, apparently he hasn't heard the term "let sleeping dogs lie". Of course, that probably means I'm calling players dogs, but be that as it may - the **** storm had passed, so why are you getting into the car and storm chasing?
The biggest revelation to me was that he called DB out as a liar. Of course, I have no issues with that piece of excrement being called out - BUT - I don't know how that plays in the locker room and whether it has any other impacts on future FA's and such.
Discretion is the better part of valor. He should have kept his mouth shut for the sake of the team.
One thing is for sure, if he did I bet it would surely settle the matter...at least as far as the players are concerned. He'd likely either "out" himself publicly, or be so evasive that nobody would trust a word. There would only be a remote, outside chance that it would be a positive step.
TexansBull
Hall of Fame
Brisco_County
Apples and roadmaps
This dude is a freaking idiot
McNair says he regrets apology for 'inmates' remark
SARAH BARSHOPESPN Staff Writer2:14 PM ET2 Minute Read
Houston Texans owner Bob McNair told the Wall Street Journal that he regrets apologizing for saying, "we can't have inmates running the prison," in reference to player demonstrations and protests during the national anthem.
In this case, McNair is right. He had nothing to apologize for and he wants the public record to reflect that.
We live in a world that demands apologies for imagined slights, mostly for the purpose of political leverage. Anyone with a grain of pride should tell the phony aggrieved to fnck off and collect their scalps elsewhere.