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M. COLLINS............SHOULD BE ABLE TO PLAY.

COOKS.............. ADDED A HIP POINTER TO HIS WRIST SPRAIN....................WILL PROBABLY BE QUESTIONABLE, BUT UNDER PRESSURE TO PLAY.

HEWITT..............SHOULD BE ABLE TO PLAY.

DARE............SUFFERED A GRADE I MIDFOOT SPRAIN...............WILL PROBABLY BE QUESTIONABLE.

N. COLLINS.............SHOULD BE ABLE TO PLAY.

GREEN............SHOULD BE ABLE TO PLAY.

KIRKSEY.............SUFFERED A NECK STINGER LAST GAME..............WILL PROBABLY BE QUESTIONABLE.

REEVES-MAYBIN................SHOULDN'T HAVE PLAYED LAST WEEK, WAS VIRTUALLY INVISIBLE..............WILL PROBABLY TRY TO PLAY AND IF SO WILL PROBABLY BE JUST AS EFFECTIVE AS LAST WEEK.

STINGLEY............SUFFERED A GRADE I HAMSTRING LAST GAME.............HE HAS SHOWN HESITANCY AND WEAKNESS PUSHING OFF HIS LEFT FOOT..............IT IS WELL-KNOWN THAT ABNORMAL MOVEMENTS IN THE HIP MUSCLES CAUSE BY ANY WEAKNESS IN FOOT POSTURE INCREASES THE RISK OF HAMSTRING INJURIES...................A CB PLAYING TOO SOON ON A RECENT GRADE I HAMSTRING IS SIGNIFICANT RISK FOR EXTENDING THE INJURY OR SUSTAINING A COMPENSATORY LOWER EXTREMITY INJURY..............I WOULD KEEP HIM OUT THIS GAME, BUT THAT DECISION IS UNLIKELY TO BE MADE.
 

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LARSEN WILL BE VULNERABLE TO UP THE MIDDLE RUSH.............HOPEFULLY THE GAME PLAN WILL TARGET THIS.

ROGERS AND LARSEN AND MAYO AND WILLIAMS ALL HAD SETBACKS IN THEIR REHABS.............

ROGERS SUSTAINED A GRADE I MCL LAST GAME AND HAS HAD NO SUCCESS REHABBING IN SUCH SHORT PERIOD.

MAYO BEGAN HAVING ANKLE PROBLEMS IN WEEK 3 AND WAS NEVER FULLY AND THROWN BACK IN TO PLAY WEEK 4 WHEN HE SUFFERED A GRADE I HAMSTRING.........HE THEN SUFFERED A HAMSTRING RE-INJURY IN WEEK 9 AND IS TRYING TO MAKE IT BACK TO THE FIELD.

WILLIAMS IS STILL TRYING TO COME BACK AND STAY BACK FROM A GRADE II MCL IN WEEK 6.

HOLMES HAS BEEN DEALING WITH A HAMSTRING ISSUE SINCE WEEK 5 AND ALSO IS FIGHTING TO COME BACK AND STAY BACK.

EXPECT ALL OF TMAYO, WILLIAMS AND HOLMES TO BE COMPROMISED IF THEY SEE THE FIELD.
 

Thorn

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STINGLEY..............MY RULE OF THUMB, ANY HAMSTRING GRADE, PLAYER SHOULD NOT PLAY WITHOUT A FULL WEEK OF FULL PRACTICE................STINGLEY NOT NOT BE OUT THERE NEXT GAME.
 

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MOSTERT.............PUTTING IN A PRODUCTIVE SEASON SO FAR, AND A PRODUCTIVE GAME IN WEEK 9, HE SUFFERED A WEEK 9 MCL.............HAS MULTIPLE MCL INJURIES DATING BACK TO 2017...............AFTER HE SUFFERED THE LAST ONE (BEFORE THIS RECENT ONE) WEEK 1 LAST YEAR, HE UNDERWENT AN MCL EXCISION...............WOULD EXPECT HIM TO BE AT BEST QUESTIONABLE FOR sUNDAY.

*AT THIS TIME, HAVE NO ADDITIONAL TIME TO POST COMMENTARIES.
 

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"BUTT PUNT" MORSTEAD..............THE DOLPHINS BETTER HOPE THAT HE RECOVERS FROM HIS ILLNESS, AS HE IS THE ONLY BRIGHT SPOT IN THEIR SAD STS.

MOSTERT COMMENTARY UNCHANGED.

ARMSTEAD HAS SUFFERED A TURF TOE WHILE STILL TRYING TO RECOVER FROM A CALF TEAR...............NOT A GOOD COMBINATION FOR A PLAYER WHO NEEDS TO BE ABLE TO POWERFULLY PUSH OFF AND SUSTAIN...............EXPECT HIM TO BE AT LEAST QUESTIONABLE........IF HE PLAYS, WILL BE COMPROMISED AND WILL BE INCREASED RISK FOR RE=INJUYRY.
 
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BURKHEAD..........SUSTAINED A CONCUSSION LAST GAME...........SINCE IT WASN'T CONFIRMED UNTIL THE NEXT DAY, DOUBT THAT HE WILL BE ABLE TO CLEAR THE PROTOCOL BY SUNDAY.

CASHMAN.........SUSTAINED BRUISED KNEE..................WILL PROBABLY PLAY SUNDAY.........MAY BE QUESTIONABLE.

M. COLINS SHOULD BE ABLE TO PLAY SUNDAY.

STINGLEY'S HAMSTRING WILL NOT BE READY FOR SUNDAY.

HARRIS..............SUSTAINED A SHOULDER SUBLUXATION SUNDAY............LIKELY TO PLAY POSSIBLY WITH A HARNESS...........WILL BE QUESTIONABLE.

GREEN..........ILL OVER HIS RECENT PLAY WHILE INJURED..............LIKELY TO SEE LIMITED PLAY SUNDAY.
 

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ALTHOUGH GARRETT IS NOT ON THE INJURY REPORT FOR AN INJURY, LAST GAME NEAR THE END, HE SUSTAINED A LEFT SHOULDER SUBLUXATION AND POST GAME COULD NOT LIFT HIS ARM PAST HIS WAIST................HE WILL EVIDENTLY TRY TO PLAY, BUT MAY HAVE A WEAK SPORT IF CONFRONTED FROM HIS LEFT.

THE DBS ARE A GROUP OF WALKING WOUNDED............WARD WITH HIS RECENT LOW ANKLE SPRAIN IS LIKELY TO BE COMPROMISED......NEWSOME IS QUESTIONABLE TO CLEAR THE PROTOCOL.

NJOKU............JUST WAS GETTING OVER KNEE AND ANKLE INJURIES...........PLAYED A MAJOR ROLE IN LAST WEEK'S COME FROM BEHIND WIN...............HE HAS SUSTAINED A NEW MCL KNEE INJURY...............I DO NOT EXPECT HIM TO PLAY SUNDAY.
 

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GARRETT..............THE INJURY REPORT FINALLY COMES CLEAN ON HIS LEFT SHOULDER INJURY.

OTHERWISE, THE PREVIOUS COMMENTARIES ARE UNCHANGED.
 

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BURKHEAD SHOULD NOT PLAY..................IF HE DOES, IT WILL BE OUT OF DESPARATION.

COOKS IS LISTED AS "NOT INJURY RELATED," BUT IN FACT, HE SUFFERED A CALF TEAR IN PRACTICE AND OUT FOR SUNDAY.
 

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ADDISION..........SUFFERED A GRADE I MCL LAST GAME..............WILL BE QUESTIONABLE SUNDAY.

N COLLINS............SUSTAINED A MIDFOOT SPRAIN...............FOLLOWING HIS GRADE I GROIN TEAR AND MISSING GAMES, HIS MECHANICS WERE STILL AFFECTED LEADING TO A COMPENSATORY FOOT INJURY.

COOKS GRADE I CALF TEAR WILL CONTINUE TO KEEP HIM OFF THE FIELD SUNDAY.

HAIRSTON SUSTAINED A SEVERE CHEST BRUISE.............BECAUSE OF HIS POSITION, HE WILL LIKELY BE INACTIVE SUNDAY.

HINISH SUSTAINED A SHOULDER SUBLUXATION LAST GAME............DEPENDING ON THE PROGRESS OF HIS PRACTICE STATUS THE NEXT FEW DAYS, HE MAY STILL END UP QUESTIONABLE.

STINGLEY WILL NOT (SHOULD NOT) BE PLAYING SUNDAY.

FAIRBURN SUSTAINED A GRADE I GROIN TEAR WHICH COULD BE ENOUGH TO KEEP HIM OUT ON SUNDAY.
 
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BOHANNA...........SUFFERED A GRADE I MCL WEEK 12............MISSED WEEK 13.............COULD BE QUESTIONABLE FOR SUNDAY.

KEARSE.............SUSTAINED A SHOULDER BRUISE WEEK 12 AND DIDN'T PRACTICE THAT WEEK...........WENT ON TO HAVE A VERY GOO GAME LAST WEEK. WILL PLAY SUNDAY.

LAWRENCE,,,,,,,,,,,SUSTAINED A MILD MID FOOT SPRAIN WEEK 10...............MISSED NO GAMES...........WILL PLAY SUNDAY.

BROWN............DON'T KNOW WHY HE IS ON THE INJURY REPORT............HE RUPTURED HIS ACHILLES LAST GAME AND IS OUT FOR THE SEASON.
 

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PREVIOUS COMMENTARIES ARE ESSENTIALLY UNCHANGED.

STINGLEY WHILE TESTING HIMSELF OUT SUFFERED AN EXTENSION OF HIS HAMSTRING TEAR TO A GRADE II. I SUSPECTED THIS WHEN HE DID NOT RETURN TO PRACTICE BY NOW............WONDER HOW THE TEXANS TRY TO EXPLAIN HIS EXTENDED ABSENCE.
 
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Not even a good attempt at disguising confabulation (see commentary above)..........not a good one, but to Lovie's credit, certainly a creative one..............

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Lovie Smith reveals clue as to severity of Texans CB Derek Stingley's hamstring injury
Mark Lane

Derek Stingley has missed the past three games with a hamstring injury.

The Houston Texans’ rookie cornerback plays a position that relies on speed and quickness, and such soft tissue injuries can be a setback. However, not only has the No. 3 overall pick not played the past three weeks, but he has also not practiced — not even on a limited basis.

According to coach Lovie Smith, who met with reporters on Wednesday, Stingley’s injury is not as bad as it appears.

“I wouldn’t say it was a more significant injury than anticipated,” said Smith. “Whenever there’s a hamstring, if a guy legitimately pulls a hamstring, it’s going to take a while. Mild, really pull it, whenever you pull a hamstring, I know from experience, it takes a while, and especially for a young player that pulled it for the first time in his life. Have to be patience with him, we have to be.

Eventually he’ll be back out there.”

While Smith reassured that Stingley’s hamstring requires patience and wasn’t anything out of the ordinary, the 64-year-old coach revealed where Stingley was during the Week 11 tilt with Washington at NRG Stadium.

“Few weeks ago he was up in the press box,” Smith said. “We didn’t have him on the sideline because we didn’t know if he could get out of the way. This week, he’s down on the sideline.”

Week 14 against the Dallas Cowboys could be the fourth straight game missed for the former LSU product. Nevertheless the injury report throughout the week will show whether Stingley is recovering with its “did not participate,” “limited participation,” and “full participation” designations.

“He’s making progress,” Smith said. “I will say that.”
 

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I'M GETTING A DISTINCT FEELING THAT THE TEXANS ARE PLAYING AROUND WITH THE INJURY REPORT AT THE LAST MINUTE.

N COLLINS IS BACK TO A GROIN INJURY...............DOUBT THAT HIS FOOT IS BACK TO NORMAL...........TRADING BACK AND FORTH FROM GROIN TO FOOT..................HE'S IN NO SHAPE TO PLAY.

COOKS COULDN'T PLAY BECAUSE OF HIS CALF WEDNESDAY AND YESTERDAY...............AND NOW HE MIRACULOUSLY NO LONGER IS BOTHERED BY HIS CALF, BUT IS BACK TO HAVING A WRIST ISSUE..............GUARANTEE YOU HIS CALF IS NOT PLAY WORTHY.

PIERCE WAS NOT ON THE INJURY REPORT WEDNESDAY AND YESTERDAY.............THEN GOES BACK TO A CHEST/SHOULDER INJURY DESPITE A FULL PARTICIPATION TODAY.

HINISH DIDN'T PRACTICE WEDNESDAY OR YESTERDAY, BUT IS NO LONGER ON THE INJURY REPORT TODAY.

STINGLEY HASN'T PRACTICED FOR 4 WEEKS, BUT MIRACULOUSLY IS NO LONGER LISTED ON THE INJURY REPORT TODAY.

NOTHING COMING OUT REGARDING TEXANS INJURIES IS TO BE BELIEVED.
 

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The Texans had 3 players suffer ankle injuries against the Cowboys. Pierce suffered one then came back into the game, but had to limp off the field shortly afterward. Kenyon Green also left the game limping. The third player to leave the game with an ankle injury was Nelson.
 

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The Texans are reporting that they believe the Pierce's ankle sprain is likely low ankle sprain and they don't see this being a long term injury. He is to undergo an MRI later today. On film, Pierce jammed his cleat into the Cowboys turf. This is actually a classic setup mechanism for a high ankle sprain. If so, I don't expect that we see Pierce again any time soon. Will await MRI.
 

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High ankle (rather than initially diagnosed low ankle) sprain has been confirmed by MRI. The Texans are saying he will only be out 1-2 weeks. As a high-contact power RB especially, that would be too soon if Pierce is to avoid re-injury (or compensatory injury). If Pierce re-injures the ligaments by coming back too soon, the ligaments would likely be permanently stretched leaving him with loose unstable ankle. This should not be a race to get him back in a season that is already lost in so many ways.............a stupid mistake................a mistake that could very well affect the career longevity of the team's brightest star.

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Houston Texans Moves: RB Dameon Pierce MRI Result, Eno Benjamin Cut - Sources
Houston Texans running back situation is unsettled with injury to Dameon Pierce, and plan to waive Eno Benjamin

HOUSTON -- Houston Texans standout rookie running back Dameon Pierce suffered a relatively mild high-ankle sprain Sunday against the Dallas Cowboys that is regarded as likely to sideline him for at least one game, according to league sources.

High-ankle sprains tend to linger generally, but this isn't regarded as severe. A source characterized his status as fluid and predicted Pierce could return within a range of one to two weeks.

Pierce is currently expected to return to play at some point this season depending on how quickly the ankle responds with no structural damage revealed during a magnetic resonance imaging exam Monday, per sources.

Pierce hurt his left ankle Sunday in a loss to the Cowboys at A&T Stadium, briefly going back in the game after having his cleat retaped. He was taken out of the game when it became clear that he couldn't push off his foot, running for one yard on his final carry of the game.

Texans coach Lovie Smith was noncommittal on Pierce's status for Sunday's game against the Kansas City Chiefs.
"He has an ankle injury that kept him out, he didn’t finish the game," Smith said Monday morning. "That’s always concerning when a player didn’t finish the game. It will take an awful lot for him not to play, but, if it’s an injury, of course it can. Hopefully, it’s short-term. We’ll see.”

If Pierce can't play Sunday at NRG Stadium, the Texans will turn to backup running backs Rex Burkhead and Dare Ogunbowale.
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N COLLINS WILL NOT BE READY FOR SUNDAY.

COOKS WILL NOT BE READY FOR SUNDAY.

NELSON SUFFERED A MID FOOT (NON LISFRANC) SPRAIN LAST GAME.............WILL NOT BE READY FOR SUNDAY.

MCCRAY...........LIKELY QUESTIONABLE FOR SUNDAY............LIKELY WILL NOT BE READY FOR SUNDAY.

PIERCE............THE HIGH ANKLE SPRAIN HE SUFFERED LAST GAME WILL NOT ALLOW HIM TO BE READY FOR SUNDAY.

STINGLEY............HIS ORIGINALLY TEAM REPORTED "MINOR" HAMSTRING (WHICH I REPORTED AS NOT SO MINOR:shades:) WILL CONTINUE TO AFFECT HIM...............WITH A MISSED 5TH CONSECUTIVE GAME.

GREEN.............SUSTAINED A GRADE I HIGH ANKLE SPRAIN LAST GAME...............EVEN THOUGH NOT ON THE INJURY REPORT, HE IS STILL DEALING WITH HIS SHOULDER/CHEST ISSUE...............IF HE EVEN PLAYS SUNDAY, HE'LL BE PLAYING WITH ONE LEG AND ONE ARM.

HINISH..........SUSTAINED A SHOULDER CONTUSION (BRUISE) LAST GAME..............WILL LIKELY PLAY THROUGH IT SUNDAY.

LOPEZ............SUSTAINED HIP A HIP POINTER LAST GAME.............COULD BE QUESTIONABLE FOR SUNDAY, BUT WILL PROBABLY TRY TO PLAY THROUGH IT WITH SOME COMPROMISE.

STALLWORTH..........SUSTAINED A GRADE I CALF TEAR............UNLIKELY TO PLAY SUNDAY, BUT IF HE TRIES, HE WILL BE COMPROMISED.

HAIRSTON..............HIS IMPROVED BRUISED RIB PROTECTED WITH A FLAK JACKET WILL ALLOW HIM TO RETURN SUNDAY.
 

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TONEY............WILL BE TRYING TO RETURN FROM A GRADE I HAMSTRING SUSTAINED ON 11/20............IF NOT SETBACKS IN PRACTICE THIS WEEK, HE WILL LIKELY PLAY SUNDAY.

NAZEEH............SUSTAINED A GRADE I HAMSTRING LAST GAME...............I DO NOT EXPECT HIM TO BE ABLE TO PLAY SUNDAY.

EXPECT EVERYONE ELSE TO PLAY SUNDAY.
 

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ONLY SURPRISE IS JONES' ACUTE ILLNESS..............IF HE IS UNABLE TO PLAY, OUR QBS WILL BE LOOKING UP TO THE HEAVENS, OFFERING ONE GREAT BIG THANK YOU.
 

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N COLLINS WON'T PLAY SATURDAY.

GREEN WON'T PLAY SATURDAY.

OKORONKWO AND TUNSIL............THE FLU GOING AROUND CAN BE BRUTAL...........RECOVERY ON SHORT WEEK MAY BE QUESTIONABLE

COOKS IS UNLIKELY TO PLAY WITHOUT A FULL WEEK OF FULL PRACTICE.

MCCRAY WILL BE QUESTIONABLE.........2 WEEKS IS STILL TOO SHORT A REHAB.

MOORE WILL POSSIBLY TRY TO PLAY THROUGH HIS GRADE I MID FOOT SPRAIN.............BUT IF HE DOES, HE WILL BE COMPROMISED.

KIRKSEY..............SUFFERED A HYPEREXTENDED ELBOW LAS GAME...............WILL PROBABLY PLAY WITH A BRACE.

NELSON.............STARTED OFF WITH A FOOT............DEVELOPED A COMPENSATORY INJURY TO HIS KNEE...............ALTHOUGH HE PARTICIPATED FULLY, THIS BY NO MEANS ASSURES HIS PRESENCE SATURDAY.



 

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THE TITANS LISTED 18 PLAYERS (>1/3 OF THE ACTIVE ROSTER) INCLUDING ALL 5 STARTERS ON THE OL. THE TEAM'S MEDICAL STAFF ESTIMATED THAT 1/2 OF THOSE 18 WOULD HAVE BEEN UNABLE TO PARTICIPATE, HAD COACHES CONDUCTED A FULL PRACTICE. INSTEAD, A WALK-THROUGH WAS HELD. IN TRUTH, THE TITANS METICULOUSLY PLANNED TO HAVE ITS ROSTER DECIMATED WITH ISSUES, SO TO GIVE THE TEXANS A FIGHTING CHANCE TO WIN. THE PROBLEM IS THAT THEY FORGOT TO TAKE A BATON TO HENRY'S KNEES.............
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