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CloakNNNdagger

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No word yet on V Taylor. Getting an MRI today for the ankle. Some are reporting he could be out for week two. That actually sounds positive

During the game, I commented to my friend that it looked like Taylor suffered a high ankle sprain. The only ankle surgery besides a simple cleanout which I doubt being the case since he has no history of previous ankle injury/surgery, that would be out for only 6 weeks(still likely to not see the game field for 8 weeks) would be a "tightrope" surgery for a high ankle sprain.

The newer "tightrope" procedure allows the high ankle separation to be stabilized in a flexible manner, keeping the natural motion between the tibia and fibula. Since the fixation is flexible, there is no need for a second surgery to remove the metal hardware. Keep in mind that return to play for the classic screw fixation can be expected to be 3-6 months.

Classic repair:

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Tightrope repair:

Animated:

Not really bloody in-surgery VIDEO
 

CloakNNNdagger

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COMMENTARY FOR WEDNESDAY TEXANS INJURY REPORT

BROWN [SHOULDER, ANKLE]............SHOULDER SUBLUXATION/GRADE I LATERAL ANKLE SPRAIN..........MAY BE QUESTIONABLE FOR SUNDAY, BUT I EXPECT THAT HE HAS A GOOD CHANCE OF BEING OUT THERE SUNDAY WITH A SHOULDER HARNESS.

GREENARD [ILLLNESS]............NON COVID............MAY BE QUESTIONABLE, BUT LIKELY TO PLAY IF MOST SYMPTOMS RESOLVE BY SATURDAY.

JOHNSON [THIGH]...........REHABBING GRADE II QUAD STRAIN SUSTAINED DURING BUCS PRESEASON GAME.............HE WILL TRY TO PLAY SUNDAY WITH A SIGNIFICANT RISK FOR RE-INJURY IF HE GOES FULL SPEED.

KING [KNEE]............APPEARS TO HAVE RE-INJURED THE KNEE CAP HE FRACTURED IN 2019.............WILL BE QUESTIONABLE FOR SUNDAY.

PIERRE-LOUIS [THIGH]............GRADE II HAMSTRING TEAR.............NOT IMPROVING..............WILL NOT PLAY ANYTIME SOON.............GOOD CHANCE HE GOES ON IR

ROBERTS [KNEE]...........SUSTAINED PRIOR TO 1ST PRESEASON GAME.........UNDISCLOSED, BUT HAVE FOUND THAT HE IS DEALING WITH A BONE BRUISE..............PAIN WILL BE THE DICTATING FACTOR IN HIS RETURN................WILL BE QUESTIONABLE, BUT IF HE DOES NOT PRACTICE THURSDAY, DOUBT THAT HE WILL BE ABLE TO PLAY SUNDAY.
 

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During the game, I commented to my friend that it looked like Taylor suffered a high ankle sprain. The only ankle surgery besides a simple cleanout which I doubt being the case since he has no history of previous ankle injury/surgery, that would be out for only 6 weeks(still likely to not see the game field for 8 weeks) would be a "tightrope" surgery for a high ankle sprain.

The newer "tightrope" procedure allows the high ankle separation to be stabilized in a flexible manner, keeping the natural motion between the tibia and fibula. Since the fixation is flexible, there is no need for a second surgery to remove the metal hardware. Keep in mind that return to play for the classic screw fixation can be expected to be 3-6 months.

Classic repair:

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Tightrope repair:

Animated:

Not really bloody in-surgery VIDEO
Basically sticking a wire in a drilled out hole with an anchor bolt used to tighten and hold in place. Really cool stuff.
 

CloakNNNdagger

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OF MAJOR INTEREST IN THE BROWNS INJURY REPORT IS THE INJURIES TO:

WILLIS [ANKLE]............HE WAS ROLLED UP IN WEEK 1...........FROM WHAT I CAN ASCERTAIN, HE SUFFERED A GRADE II HIGH ANKLE SPRAIN............BACK IN JAN, IN THE DIVISIONAL PLAYOFF GAME, HE SUFFERED BOTH A LATERAL ANKLE SPRAIN AND A HIGH ANKLE SPRAIN............ALTHOUGH, HE IS THE STARTING LT, I CAN'T SEE HIM PLAYING SUNDAY.

HUBBARD [TRICEPS].........SUFFERED A TENDINOUS TRICEPS TEAR WHEN AS THE SWING TACKLE, HE CAME IN FOR WILLIS.............ALTHOUGH, HE WOULD BE THE BACKUP LT BEHIND WILLIS.............I CAN'T SEE HIM PLAYING SUNDAY.

THE ABOVE INJURIES TO THE LT CANDIDATES FOR SUNDAY, COULD LEAVE THE POSITION TO BE FILLED BY THE BROWNS ROOKIE LT PICKED THIS PAST DRAFT IN THE 4TH ROUND............THIS INJURY SITUATION COULD END UP BEING A CRITICAL FACTOR IN SUNDAY'S GAME.

BTW, FOR THOSE WHO MIGHT EXPECT THE BROWNS TO MOVE CONKLIN FROM RT TO LT...........EVEN THOUGH CONKLIN PLAYED SOME LT IN COLLEGE, HE DOES NOT HAVE THE FEET TO PLAY LT IN THE NFL (WHILE NOW HE IS DEALING WITH A KNEE ISSUE OF HIS OWN RELATED TO HIS 2 ACL REPAIRS........ONE IN COLLEGE IN 2015 AND ONE IN THE 2017 NFL POSTSEASON)............EVEN IF THE BROWNS WOULD HAVE HIM MAKE THAT MOVE, THEN RT BECOMES A BIG ????
 
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CloakNNNdagger

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Thanks @CloakNNNdagger !

Another OL injury that has popped up for the Browns is center JC Tretter (knee). He was LP leading up to week 1 but is DNP this week so far with a knee injury. I read he had knee surgery in the 2020 offseason but he has not missed a start since signing with the Browns in 2017. Could this week be the first missed game for him?
Tretter has had ongoing problems with his knee since the end of 2019. In Aug 2020, he underwent a knee scope to remove some loose floating particles of articular cartilage. This past Aug 16, he had a similar procedure to remove loose articular cartilage fragments. He returned too soon last game. He will be shot up if he is to continue to play. But his issue will be progressive. As a center, this type of problem will affect his base.
 

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***The Texans only had a walk-through. Therefore, this is only an estimate based on if there were a regular practice.

Amendola [thigh].........grade I hamstring........will not / should not play.

Collins [shoulder]............dislocation (see above post).

Grugier-Hill [knee].............from what I can surmise, grade I MCL..........may try to play with a brace.

Mitchell [concussion]..............will not clear protocol by Thursday.

Reid [knee]..........grade I MCL.......will probably try to play, but risk for re-injury this soon.

Watson (non-injury reasons)
 

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I posted this in the Dawg Pound thread shortly after the Taylor injury (left Taylor inadvertently out of yesterday's Injury Report commentary).:

Having reviewed the film, Taylor sustained a grade II hamstring tear. He can be expected to require 3-6 weeks rehab. He should be on the conservative side on return, as recurrence is common, especially when coming back too soon.
The official word came out yesterday evening:

 

CloakNNNdagger

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NOTABLE PANTHERS INJURIES:

DE YETUR GROSS-MATOS HAS NOT PRACTICED IN 2 DAYS NOW..........HE HAD HIS ANKLE ROLLED ON AND IT APPEARS THAT HE HAS SUFFERED A HIGH ANKLE SPRAIN.............THURSDAY DOES NOT LOOK TO BE IN HIS FUTURE.

AN EVEN GREATER POTENTIAL LOSS FOR THE PANTHERS IS ROSS-MATOS' BOOK END DE MORGAN FOX...........LOOKS LIKE HE SUSTAINED A GRADE II LOW ANKLE SPRAIN..............HE PRACTICED LIMITED YESTERDAY AND TODAY, BUT WAS SEEN WEARING A RED JERSEY TODAY, MEANING THAT HIS HE WAS NOT CLEARED FOR CONTACT..............THURSDAY ALSO DOES NOT LOOK TO BE IN HIS FUTURE.............BE AWARE THAT FOX CRANKED UP AN UNREAL 7 PRESSURES LAST GAME.........HIS ABSENCE WILL NOT BE MOURNED BY MILLS AND THE TEXANS OFFENSE.

THE PATHERS STARTING LG PAT ELFLEIN HAS JUST NOW BEEN PLACED ON IR............IN WEEK 1, HE SUSTAINED A HIP INJURY AND WAS LIMITED THROUGHOUT THE NEXT WEEK...........HE THEN CAME BACK TOO QUICKLY AND SUFFERED A GRADE II HAMSTRING TEAR LAST SUNDAY
 

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I WOULDN'T PUT TO MUCH PROGNOSTIC VALIDITY INTO THE DNPS TODAY AS REGARDS THE QUESTIONABLES.........NO ONE WOULD PRACTICE (EXCEPT FOR WALK-THHROUGHS) THE DAY PRIOR TO A THURSDAY GAME............AND AN INJURED PLAYER THAT HAD A CHANCE OF PLAYING WOULD MOST PROBABLY NOT PLAY BOTH PRACTICES LEADING UP TO A THURSDAY SHORT WEEK IN ORDER TO GAIN ADDITIONAL REST/REHAB TIME. HOWEVER, THEY MAY ULTIMATELY WISELY CHOSE CONSERVATIVELY TO MINIMIZE THEIR CHANCES OF EXTENDING THEIR INJURIES TO MORE LONG-TERM ISSUES.
 
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Texans’ Fairbairn making progress: ‘If he’s ready to go, we’ll go with him’
By Aaron WilsonSep 24, 2021

Texans kicker Ka’imi Fairbairn is making progress in his recovery from a groin injury and the team will evaluate him again next week on whether he can be activated from injured reserve and kick against the Buffalo Bills.
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A grade II groin tear in a kicker should be given at least 2 months for rehab. And risk for re-injury the remainder of the season still remains significantly increased. The Buffalo game is 5 weeks post injury. I believe that trying to bring him back that soon is short-sighted.
 


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