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Head Coach Candidate (Lovie Smith Hired) 2/7/22

“trusted” is a tricky word as it applies to Culley. The NFL wasn’t where it is now with the Rooney rule and whatnot for much of his early coaching life & career. Aside from that, I know people try to make light of his of Asst. HC title, but he had it at 2 different stops under some very highly regarded HC’s. That should count for something when it comes to being placed in a position of leadership.

Fact is too, NFL owners are still in the next great young mind and Culley basically got passed over b/c he wasnt young enough…not b/c of his experience. If he’s younger, he almost certainly gets at least 1 more year here…him getting the axe after 1 year is ageism at its core.
Or maybe everyone who got to know him could see that his dumber than a box of rocks, cornball coach with no particular attribute exhibiting excellent.
 
Any number of reasons the Texans could decide to give McCown an interview.
Could just be a friendly courtesy to him.
Could be just because they want to get more experience conducting interviews in general.
Could be a lot of reasons that don't necessarily indicate that they're seriously considering him as HC.
Same goes for Hines Ward.
Can't understand why people are worked up about it.
The only decision that matters is the actual hire.
 
Any number of reasons the Texans could decide to give McCown an interview.
Could just be a friendly courtesy to him.
Could be just because they want to get more experience conducting interviews in general.
Could be a lot of reasons that don't necessarily indicate that they're seriously considering him as HC.
Same goes for Hines Ward.
Can't understand why people are worked up about it.
The only decision that matters is the actual hire.
It matters because we've only interviewed like 5 people, meaning there is a 20% chance he gets hired.
 
If the Preacher was making the final call McCown would be the hire. That ain't happening.


I wouldn't say that .... I know for a fact that collectively they wanted to hire McCown last year (and said so here) over "the field" but Cal backed out at the last minute because he didn't want to take the ridicule of hiring an inexperienced HC after the way things had gone the last two years.

The Preacher is not the driving force behind this "idea", he's really nothing more than a media punching bag.
 
I believe they interviewed Caldwell twice, they’re supposed to have an interview with Eberflus. I think they interviewed him last year too. & I hear they’ve scheduled a 2nd interview with Gannon.

I wonder if it was like, “OK Josh, we’ve got you set up for 30 minutes. Make me look good.”

Or was it, “You’re the 3rd string QB, shouldn’t take long.”
You've never seen a 3rd string, recently signed qb have a 30 minute presser. I like Josh, I think as a qb coach he would be excellent, but if you're going to interview him, why not interview Pep and Lovie?
 
When it all comes down to it, players decide games, coaches are there to protect them from themselves. You buy into that, players will believe. McDaniel has that character that should be what Texan culture should be.
 
He shouldn’t be seriously considered, I agree. But it’s there, it’s on the official website, I don’t know what more you want.


I guess I'll be the one .....


Why shouldn't he be seriously considered? He's been running an NFL offense for nearly two decades and been in and around the game learning it for much longer than that. Supposedly manages people and personalities well .... players like him.

What is a QB other than a coach managing the game on the field?

The team has his staff all but pre-made for him .... so bringing in quality assistants isn't an issue.

If Tom Brady walked thru that door, would you say the same thing about him?

Like I said last year - I don't think it could have been much, if any worse than this season's disaster with Culley even if I think he overachieved with 4 W's.


At the worst, we can put this behind us sooner than later. Who knows, maybe Cal will get pissed off and throw his Madden controller against the wall after another disaster & sell the team.
 
I guess I'll be the one .....


Why shouldn't he be seriously considered? He's been running an NFL offense for nearly two decades and been in and around the game learning it for much longer than that. Supposedly manages people and personalities well .... players like him.

What is a QB other than a coach managing the game on the field?

The team has his staff all but pre-made for him .... so bringing in quality assistants isn't an issue.

If Tom Brady walked thru that door, would you say the same thing about him?

Like I said last year - I don't think it could have been much, if any worse than this season's disaster with Culley even if I think he overachieved with 4 W's.


At the worst, we can put this behind us sooner than later. Who knows, maybe Cal will get pissed off and throw his Madden controller against the wall after another disaster & sell the team.

You want a HC with ZERO coaching experience? I'm starting to see how the Texans rationalize the things they do. And no, I wouldn't take Tom Brady as HC either. OC? Maybe. HC, no way.
 
I wouldn't say that .... I know for a fact that collectively they wanted to hire McCown last year (and said so here) over "the field" but Cal backed out at the last minute because he didn't want to take the ridicule of hiring an inexperienced HC after the way things had gone the last two years.

The Preacher is not the driving force behind this "idea", he's really nothing more than a media punching bag.
So, if Easterby is not the driving force behind this idea. Let me go through a process of elimination exercise. Until Josh McCown was signed last year, I doubt Cal or the McNairs knew the difference between Josh and Luke McCown.

McCown was here before Caserio was hired. He had his press conference and spoke about Easterby's vision for the organization. To my knowledge, Caserio does not have a previous relationship with McCown. So, if Easterby is not the driving force. Are you saying Caserio is the driving force?
 
I can't say I'm to high on the idea McCown as HC but at the same time I also remember how many around here were screaming to make Payton Manning GM when he has just as much GM experience as McCown would coaching experience. Now playing devil's advocate, or sipping the kool aid as some would say, for a minute the only way I MIGHT could see it work is if they got a great OC and DC and then McCown steps back and lets both do their thing and he just guides the overall vision of the team. The best supervisors and managers I've ever seen are the ones that get the best people and then lets those people do what they do best. I think to many on here are hung up on the idea of a HC either also basically being the OC or DC as well because thats what we've seen as the trend lately.

Again I have some real shall we say reservations about him going from player to HC. On the other hand I've also seen a lot of HCs that were offensive gurus who's team couldn't score to save their life and a lot of defensive gurus that the defense had was a paper wall not a steel wall. At the end of the day I'm not spending money on the team anyway so I'm not going to get to upset one way or another.
 
So, if Easterby is not the driving force behind this idea. Let me go through a process of elimination exercise. Until Josh McCown was signed last year, I doubt Cal or the McNairs knew the difference between Josh and Luke McCown.

McCown was here before Caserio was hired. He had his press conference and spoke about Easterby's vision for the organization. To my knowledge, Caserio does not have a previous relationship with McCown. So, if Easterby is not the driving force. Are you saying Caserio is the driving force?

I would venture yes unless you also think Easterby was the driving force behind hiring Culley who also had no previous relationship to Caserio.
 
I can't say I'm to high on the idea McCown as HC but at the same time I also remember how many around here were screaming to make Payton Manning GM when he has just as much GM experience as McCown would coaching experience. Now playing devil's advocate, or sipping the kool aid as some would say, for a minute the only way I MIGHT could see it work is if they got a great OC and DC and then McCown steps back and lets both do their thing and he just guides the overall vision of the team. The best supervisors and managers I've ever seen are the ones that get the best people and then lets those people do what they do best. I think to many on here are hung up on the idea of a HC either also basically being the OC or DC as well because thats what we've seen as the trend lately.

Again I have some real shall we say reservations about him going from player to HC. On the other hand I've also seen a lot of HCs that were offensive gurus who's team couldn't score to save their life and a lot of defensive gurus that the defense had was a paper wall not a steel wall. At the end of the day I'm not spending money on the team anyway so I'm not going to get to upset one way or another.
One person was beating the drum for Manning, and he was the same person who thought Bortles was the next best thing.
 

The Texans’ coaching staff may not look too different in 2022
The Texans are weighing their options after interviewing former Dolphins HC and Patriots LBs coach Brian Flores, retired NFL QB Josh McCown, Chargers OC Joe Lombardi, and former Pro Bowl WR Hines Ward. Whomever the Texans eventually hire after firing coach David Culley — following a 4-13 record in his first season as a head coach at any level — they’re widely expected to retain multiple assistant coaches.
Among those regarded as likely to be back in Houston in 2022: veteran DC Lovie Smith, special teams coordinator Frank Ross (a former Patriots scout who worked under general manager and fellow John Carroll University alum Nick Caserio), and former Packers and Chargers offensive line coach James Campen (who signed a three-year contract last year).
Texans passing game coordinator and quarterbacks coach Pep Hamilton did a nice job developing rookie QB Davis Mills and the team highly respects him.
While Mills went 2-9 in 11 starts as the replacement for veteran Tyrod Taylor, the third-round rookie from Stanford had his moments. He completed 66.8% of his throws for a franchise rookie record 2,664 yards, passing 2002 No. 1 overall pick David Carr. Mills also threw 16 touchdowns and 10 interceptions for a respectable 88.8 passer rating.
 
What’s worse is that some of them have been on the Texans. :(
That's the thing, how often do coaches start & end their career on one team?

I'd like to see the Texans adopt a model that would develop & promote from within. So in a way I like Caserio being involved with building a coaching staff, if that's what he is doing.

But, there needs to be a HC deeply involved as well.
 
One person was beating the drum for Manning, and he was the same person who thought Bortles was the next best thing.
You know Manning and the Manning family have more knowledge about the NFL and the NFL X and Os in their tiny pinky fingernail than the collective knowledge of this entire message board and every other NFL message board.

Compared to the Texans, over the first 5 years of Bortles NFL career Bortles was a much better thing (actually a better effect thru this season)

Looking back the Texans would've been so much better off had they drafted Bortles:

In 2015 they wouldn't have had to go thru the Hoyer and Mallett carousel while Bortles had more TD passes.

In 2016 you wouldn't have had to go through that awful, horrible, terrible Osweiler fiasco, saved tons of money and draft picks too while Bortles threw 35 TDs.

In 2017 Bortles may have been able to get the Texans to the AFC Championship game (a place they have never been) like he did the Jags.

In 2017 the Texans would NOT have drafted a sexual pervert as the face of the franchise and given him a $156,000,000 contract in 2020.

In 2021 the Texans would not have had to pay the Pervert $10MM to sit his butt on the bench for being a sexual pervert.

Not to mention that Bortles 103 TDs were much more productive than Clowney's 32 sacks.

If you and the Texans had listened to me 7 years ago, you know I could have saved you 6 years of heart ache with Bill O'Brien. You were such a cheerleader. I said at the time OB would fail like the 8 Belichick assistants who went before him. Who knew my clairvoyance would've seen that Blake Bortles would've been a better option for the Texans and Bill O'Brien would not?
 
There are three OC's at the top of my list as a candidate for the Texans HC position : Brian Daboll (Buffalo Bills), Joe Lombardi (LA Chargers) and Kevin O'Connell (LA Rams).

Daboll is 46 and has been an OC for 9 yrs. Lombardi is 50 and has been a QB coach for 10 yrs and an OC for 3. O'Connell is 36 and has been a QB coach for 3 yrs and OC for 3 yrs.

Lombardi is the only one of the three who has been interviewed, to date. He has been written up in the Chronicle and appears to coach a modern offense, up-tempo and similar to what the Texans did in the second half against the Titans in the final game. Seems to be an excellant fit for Mills.

We just saw how Daboll coaches, in Sunday's game against KC. And how O'Connell coaches, in Sunday's game against the Buc's.

I would be good with any one of the three. What are your thoughts?
 
You know Manning and the Manning family have more knowledge about the NFL and the NFL X and Os in their tiny pinky fingernail than the collective knowledge of this entire message board and every other NFL message board.

Compared to the Texans, over the first 5 years of Bortles NFL career Bortles was a much better thing (actually a better effect thru this season)

Looking back the Texans would've been so much better off had they drafted Bortles:

In 2015 they wouldn't have had to go thru the Hoyer and Mallett carousel while Bortles had more TD passes.

In 2016 you wouldn't have had to go through that awful, horrible, terrible Osweiler fiasco, saved tons of money and draft picks too while Bortles threw 35 TDs.

In 2017 Bortles may have been able to get the Texans to the AFC Championship game (a place they have never been) like he did the Jags.

In 2017 the Texans would NOT have drafted a sexual pervert as the face of the franchise and given him a $156,000,000 contract in 2020.

In 2021 the Texans would not have had to pay the Pervert $10MM to sit his butt on the bench for being a sexual pervert.

Not to mention that Bortles 103 TDs were much more productive than Clowney's 32 sacks.

If you and the Texans had listened to me 7 years ago, you know I could have saved you 6 years of heart ache with Bill O'Brien. You were such a cheerleader. I said at the time OB would fail like the 8 Belichick assistants who went before him. Who knew my clairvoyance would've seen that Blake Bortles would've been a better option for the Texans and Bill O'Brien would not?

Urban Meyer.
 
There are three OC's at the top of my list as a candidate for the Texans HC position : Brian Daboll (Buffalo Bills), Joe Lombardi (LA Chargers) and Kevin O'Connell (LA Rams).

Daboll is 46 and has been an OC for 9 yrs. Lombardi is 50 and has been a QB coach for 10 yrs and an OC for 3. O'Connell is 36 and has been a QB coach for 3 yrs and OC for 3 yrs.

Lombardi is the only one of the three who has been interviewed, to date. He has been written up in the Chronicle and appears to coach a modern offense, up-tempo and similar to what the Texans did in the second half against the Titans in the final game. Seems to be an excellant fit for Mills.

We just saw how Daboll coaches, in Sunday's game against KC. And how O'Connell coaches, in Sunday's game against the Buc's.

I would be good with any one of the three. What are your thoughts?

I also like these candidates and I would add Leftwich to my list. O'Connell is supposedly up for an interview. Daboll certainly should be. If we do go DC, I'm a Ryans, Raheem Morris, or Gannon fan among a couple of others. HC's with experience? Seems like Flores or bust at this point. Instead we're wasting time on choir boys because they fit the Preacher's "culture". Said culture has zero to do with actually winning anything, but it's all good and hey an ice cream cone on the way home is always a great time.
 
You know Manning and the Manning family have more knowledge about the NFL and the NFL X and Os in their tiny pinky fingernail than the collective knowledge of this entire message board and every other NFL message board.

Compared to the Texans, over the first 5 years of Bortles NFL career Bortles was a much better thing (actually a better effect thru this season)

Looking back the Texans would've been so much better off had they drafted Bortles:

In 2015 they wouldn't have had to go thru the Hoyer and Mallett carousel while Bortles had more TD passes.

In 2016 you wouldn't have had to go through that awful, horrible, terrible Osweiler fiasco, saved tons of money and draft picks too while Bortles threw 35 TDs.

In 2017 Bortles may have been able to get the Texans to the AFC Championship game (a place they have never been) like he did the Jags.

In 2017 the Texans would NOT have drafted a sexual pervert as the face of the franchise and given him a $156,000,000 contract in 2020.

In 2021 the Texans would not have had to pay the Pervert $10MM to sit his butt on the bench for being a sexual pervert.

Not to mention that Bortles 103 TDs were much more productive than Clowney's 32 sacks.

If you and the Texans had listened to me 7 years ago, you know I could have saved you 6 years of heart ache with Bill O'Brien. You were such a cheerleader. I said at the time OB would fail like the 8 Belichick assistants who went before him. Who knew my clairvoyance would've seen that Blake Bortles would've been a better option for the Texans and Bill O'Brien would not?

Well that is certainly one way to spin a 3rd overall draft pick bust....
 
You know Manning and the Manning family have more knowledge about the NFL and the NFL X and Os in their tiny pinky fingernail than the collective knowledge of this entire message board and every other NFL message board.

Compared to the Texans, over the first 5 years of Bortles NFL career Bortles was a much better thing (actually a better effect thru this season)

Looking back the Texans would've been so much better off had they drafted Bortles:

In 2015 they wouldn't have had to go thru the Hoyer and Mallett carousel while Bortles had more TD passes.

In 2016 you wouldn't have had to go through that awful, horrible, terrible Osweiler fiasco, saved tons of money and draft picks too while Bortles threw 35 TDs.

In 2017 Bortles may have been able to get the Texans to the AFC Championship game (a place they have never been) like he did the Jags.

In 2017 the Texans would NOT have drafted a sexual pervert as the face of the franchise and given him a $156,000,000 contract in 2020.

In 2021 the Texans would not have had to pay the Pervert $10MM to sit his butt on the bench for being a sexual pervert.

Not to mention that Bortles 103 TDs were much more productive than Clowney's 32 sacks.

If you and the Texans had listened to me 7 years ago, you know I could have saved you 6 years of heart ache with Bill O'Brien. You were such a cheerleader. I said at the time OB would fail like the 8 Belichick assistants who went before him. Who knew my clairvoyance would've seen that Blake Bortles would've been a better option for the Texans and Bill O'Brien would not?
Are you suggesting the Manning clan should buy out McNair clan and properly run the Texan franchise?

If so, count me on board:wesmantexanfan:
 
There are three OC's at the top of my list as a candidate for the Texans HC position : Brian Daboll (Buffalo Bills), Joe Lombardi (LA Chargers) and Kevin O'Connell (LA Rams).

Daboll is 46 and has been an OC for 9 yrs. Lombardi is 50 and has been a QB coach for 10 yrs and an OC for 3. O'Connell is 36 and has been a QB coach for 3 yrs and OC for 3 yrs.

Lombardi is the only one of the three who has been interviewed, to date. He has been written up in the Chronicle and appears to coach a modern offense, up-tempo and similar to what the Texans did in the second half against the Titans in the final game. Seems to be an excellant fit for Mills.

We just saw how Daboll coaches, in Sunday's game against KC. And how O'Connell coaches, in Sunday's game against the Buc's.

I would be good with any one of the three. What are your thoughts?

Count me in on any of the 3.

All should be great for Mills development.
 
I wouldn't say that .... I know for a fact that collectively they wanted to hire McCown last year (and said so here) over "the field" but Cal backed out at the last minute because he didn't want to take the ridicule of hiring an inexperienced HC after the way things had gone the last two years.

The Preacher is not the driving force behind this "idea", he's really nothing more than a media punching bag.
Jack brought McCown into this organization. Saying he is not the driving force behind McCown's candidacy is non-sensical, to be kind.

Cal was right. The Texans would have been ridiculed for hiring an inexperienced HC. I have to give Cal credit for that, at least. That he has become the sane voice in the room is frightening.

I'm now calling Cal by his name for the rest of the week (or until he does something else foolish).

Why shouldn't he be seriously considered? He's been running an NFL offense for nearly two decades and been in and around the game learning it for much longer than that. Supposedly manages people and personalities well .... players like him.
McCown has run plays called from the sideline. Mainly at practice. That's not coordinating or coaching an offense.

Being liked by teammates and managing people are two different things. One of which Josh McCown has never done.

Jack Easterby has been in and around the game for the past decade. I guess he has the chops to be HC, too?

Like I said last year - I don't think it could have been much, if any worse than this season's disaster with Culley
Is that the criteria being used on Kirby for selecting HCs? Can't be much worse than Culley? Geez.

I hope that when McCown is named head coach, the Kirby apologists can come up with better rationalizations.
 
I also like these candidates and I would add Leftwich to my list. O'Connell is supposedly up for an interview. Daboll certainly should be. If we do go DC, I'm a Ryans, Raheem Morris, or Gannon fan among a couple of others. HC's with experience? Seems like Flores or bust at this point. Instead we're wasting time on choir boys because they fit the Preacher's "culture". Said culture has zero to do with actually winning anything, but it's all good and hey an ice cream cone on the way home is always a great time.
It's being reported that Gannon is getting a second interview. If the Texans go with a defensive coach, then that makes the OC hire that much more important. I've been wondering today whether Pep Hamilton is really that man to take on KC and Buffalo?
 
Mannings are buying the Broncos. I wish they would buy the Texans. We'd have a winner in no time, but oh well.

Speaking of the Broncos, they have interviewed 10 candidates already. Texans are at 5 and two of them are laughable and should never have been interviewed. Three serious candidates vs. ten. I think they go Hackett who is another guy on my radar.

It MAY be that guys just don't want to come here. That's certainly a possibility. It also could be that this is a dumpster fire of a "search" like everything else this org does.
 
It's been a real possibility for the past 2 years. That still doesn't justify hiring McCown.

Yes sir I agree. Thanks for being one of the voices of reason along with Texian and a few others. I mean trying to rationalize a guy as HC that hasn't even been a paid coach at any level, even pee wee league, is a new low in the annals of rationalization.

I feel like some of us are like an abused dog. If a neighbor lets us sleep in the garage for a night and doesn't hit us, and we get a scrap or two off the table - we think we're at the Four Seasons.
 
He's under contract through 2022. What would you give up to get him?

Most coaches get to choose their own staff & final say on GameDay roster just makes sense, I'd be shocked if Caserio would have a problem with either.

A good owner knowing he’s going to be flush with pics once he trades Derrick would offer 2 1’s to NO privately to get Payton, then give him GM-HC title, a 10 year contract and GTFO of the way.Caserio obviously would be gone.
 
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