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Game 1...Season/Home Opener...Chicago Bears!!!

How many turnovers do you think the Texans defense will force?

  • 1 turn over

    Votes: 6 17.6%

  • 2 turnovers

    Votes: 19 55.9%

  • 3 turnovers

    Votes: 7 20.6%

  • 4 or more turnovers

    Votes: 1 2.9%

  • No turnovers

    Votes: 1 2.9%
  • Total voters
    34
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Update. UofH scored a touchdown by returning a missed field goal by OU to make it 26 to 17 Houston.
 
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I'm rather surprised Brax is behind Mumphery at WR2. I'm also surprised that there's no depth behind Newton at RT or X at LG. I mean no one listed at all. Could it be a mistake to go light on OL and heavy at RB and WR when those two positions are much, much healthier than the OL, especially OT?
Anderson is listed as the 4th TE behind some guy named Tomlinson.
Unofficial Depth Chart
 
DocBar said:
I'm rather surprised Brax is behind Mumphery at WR2. I'm also surprised that there's no depth behind Newton at RT or X at LG. I mean no one listed at all. Could it be a mistake to go light on OL and heavy at RB and WR when those two positions are much, much healthier than the OL, especially OT?
Anderson is listed as the 4th TE behind some guy named Tomlinson.
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Don't think I'd read a lot into this depth chart.
 
That depth chart is the equivalent of expecting to believe that college HCs actually give a thorough weekly top to bottom top 25 for their poll.
 
I'm not so worried about the depth chart as to who will be the starters come game 1. As far as that goes, the starters I've listed in the beginning of this thread, it looks like that will be how it is. Lamm will start at RT with Newt coming in on rotation.
JJ might play in the game, but it will be limited if he does so expect Still to take that spot.
Brown will not play so Clark will be the LT.
 
In my opinion, I would not play Newton, Brown or Watt in this game. They will not be needed. Clark and Lamm are doing a great job holding up the ends of the O-line. Still will be serviceable at this time in place of Watt. All he needs to do is occupy a blocker. Mercilus, Covington, Clowney, Cushing and others will be way more then the Bears O-line will be able to handle. No need to play Watt and risk any further injury or aggravating his back.
This is just my opinion, but I honestly don't think we'll need these critical players in this game. Bring them along slowly and bring them in in a game that will require more talent at those positions. Like the next game against the Chiefs.
 
JamTex said:
In my opinion, I would not play Newton, Brown or Watt in this game. They will not be needed. Clark and Lamm are doing a great job holding up the ends of the O-line. Still will be serviceable at this time in place of Watt. All he needs to do is occupy a blocker. Mercilus, Covington, Clowney, Cushing and others will be way more then the Bears O-line will be able to handle. No need to play Watt and risk any further injury or aggravating his back.
This is just my opinion, but I honestly don't think we'll need these critical players in this game. Bring them along slowly and bring them in in a game that will require more talent at those positions. Like the next game against the Chiefs.
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They will see limited action.
 
How the hell did a thread about turnover predictions turn into a roster, depth chart, college football, whose your mama thread? Geez people, there ain't no award for post count
 
Who cares about a post count? All that matters is how our Texans line up will do against the Bears in this first game. So the depth chart matters. And the turnover predictions are just a poll. Not what this thread is about.
As far as the U of H post, It was an update for our home town team. Who won by the wayl
 
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I think it will be good for Newton to rotate in, he needs to get ready somehow and knock off the rust. JJ has never missed a start and his mindset won't allow that if the trainers give him a go he will play. BIg question is that they should make sure he does not do his typical 90% of snaps. Let him start to keep his string alive but rotate here too. CHicago will be his pre-season
 
Rich Schmidt said:
I think it will be good for Newton to rotate in, he needs to get ready somehow and knock off the rust. JJ has never missed a start and his mindset won't allow that if the trainers give him a go he will play. BIg question is that they should make sure he does not do his typical 90% of snaps. Let him start to keep his string alive but rotate here too. CHicago will be his pre-season
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What ever happens with those guys, they need to seriously limit their snap counts. I wouldn't give either one of them more then 20 snaps each in the game, and put them in only when it is critical for them to help the team.
Other then that, they should be kept out. They won't be needed in this game against a much weaker opponent.
 
Here is the 2015 comparison of the 2 teams. Houston beats the Bears in every way except rushing yards per game, 3rd down conversions and time of possession.

Analyze both teams
OFFENSIVE COMPARISON
Total Yards Per Game
  • 344.6
  • 347.8
Passing Yards Per Game
  • 228.8
  • 239.6
Rush Yards Per Game
  • 115.9
  • 108.2
Points Per Game
  • 20.9
  • 21.2
Third Down Conversion %
  • 42.5
  • 38.6
Time of Possession
  • 1889.0
  • 1847.0
Bears
Texans

DEFENSIVE COMPARISON
Total Yards Per Game Allowed
  • 345.4
  • 310.2
Passing Yards Per Game Allowed
  • 224.6
  • 210.4
Rush Yards Per Game Allowed
  • 120.9
  • 99.8
Points Per Game Allowed
  • 24.8
  • 19.6
Third Down Conversion % Allowed
  • 44.3
  • 28.5
Bears
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JamTex said:
Fuller and Miller are young up and comers with very high ceilings. Jeffrey has pretty much reached his. He is a middle of the pack starting wide receiver. The only reason he has higher stats is because he's really the only threatening target that Cutler has to throw to. Even then, his stats are average. Out of the 32 teams #1 receivers he probably ranks closer to the middle at 12 or 13. Above average, but not great. I don't think he would beat out Fuller or Miller if he was here.
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Yeah, I hear ya man. The best three receivers in the league play for the Texans right now. I expect 1500 yards and 100 receptions from all three with at least 12-15 tds a piece.
 
JamTex said:
I am not putting them on a pedestal so to speak. They both have great up side. For rookies, they are both way ahead of where any one of us thought they would be. When the preseason started, I was sure they would both be developing behind Strong, Mumphrey and Shorts. Now they are both ahead of all of them in the depth chart. That's pretty amazing.
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I agree... I mean Strong, Mumphrey AND Shorts... I mean Shorts version 3.0... he catches like 40 balls a year gauranteeeeed... He'll be signed within weeks of getting cut.
 
JamTex said:
So what should I do? Be completely negative? The Texans had the worst draft ever this year and Rick smith should be fired. All of the picks and free agency pick ups will be a complete bust. The Texans will go 0-16 and take the first pick in the Draft next year....which they will once again, squander. Bill O'brien, Romeo Crennell, Rick Smith, the entire coaching staff and front office will all be fired before seasons end.
Is that what you want to see?
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Ever heard of the golden mean?
 
badboy said:
how many did Fuller drop in these four games that he should have caught? Not disagreeing on Jeffrey.
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I'm jonesing for football so bad... have we ever drafted anyone who was crazy fast but couldn't catch? It seems like we were all raven about somebody... I just can't think of who it was...
 
I think what we saw today in the college world is very relevant for what we're going to see next week. The league is full of talent, the difference between winning & losing week 1 will largely depend on protecting the football & coaching. A lot of games were lost because players didn't protect the football & a lot of coaching decisions didn't work out.
 
JB said:
How the hell did a thread about turnover predictions turn into a roster, depth chart, college football, whose your mama thread? Geez people, there ain't no award for post count
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It's a thread about week one. Go get a happy meal and quityerbitchin, old man! :kitten:
 
JamTex said:
Who cares about a post count? All that matters is how our Texans line up will do against the Bears in this first game. So the depth chart matters. And the turnover predictions are just a poll. Not what this thread is about.
As far as the U of H post, It was an update for our home town team. Who won by the wayl
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Jam we are new comers around here. What I've gathered so far with some of these old heads/veterans of this board is, they are very particular about threads getting derailed. I'm not saying that's what happened here though big homie.
 
Texansballer74 said:
Jam we are new comers around here. What I've gathered so far with some of these old heads/veterans of this board is, they are very particular about threads getting derailed. I'm not saying that's what happened here though big homie.
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We haven't always been. It's a recent development. There are a few exceptions, the injury threads we generally like to keep them on track. But usually every thread turns into a QB or I hate Rick Smith thread.

Honestly don't know why JB got bent out of shape on this one. No way a "game week" thread is going to stay on track for 11 days.
 
thunderkyss said:
We haven't always been. It's a recent development. There are a few exceptions, the injury threads we generally like to keep them on track. But usually every thread turns into a QB or I hate Rick Smith thread.

Honestly don't know why JB got bent out of shape on this one. No way a "game week" thread is going to stay on track for 11 days.
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Well we also don't usually have a 'game week' thread, which is inevitably going to just be a ramble thread anyway.
 
It's a week long Koolaid fest!

Kick up the Jams!

Pom Pom central!

Bring out those cheerleaders!
 
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Jam we are new comers around here. What I've gathered so far with some of these old heads/veterans of this board is, they are very particular about threads getting derailed. I'm not saying that's what happened here though big homie.
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That's the problem with people like Jam. He comes in and announces that he is going to start a tradition. We had our own traditions. Instead of hanging around and getting a feel he wants to turn this into the board he came from. Of course that's going to rub people the wrong way. This place used to be dominated by realistic football talk. There were optimists and pessimists but it wasn't dominated by them. We used to mock boards of other teams with people who created posts like this.

The place was just fine the way it was. Want to carve out your own little space, fine... But don't come in here acting like you own the place, which is what Jam has done.
 
Texanmike02 said:
That's the problem with people like Jam. He comes in and announces that he is going to start a tradition. We had our own traditions. Instead of hanging around and getting a feel he wants to turn this into the board he came from. Of course that's going to rub people the wrong way. This place used to be dominated by realistic football talk. There were optimists and pessimists but it wasn't dominated by them. We used to mock boards of other teams with people who created posts like this.

The place was just fine the way it was. Want to carve out your own little space, fine... But don't come in here acting like you own the place, which is what Jam has done.
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It's really simple. If you don't like a thread or post, ignore it. I didn't come here to rub anyone the wrong way. Certainly not my intent. I didn't come here to take over, just add. I don't talk badly about people. It's wrong to do that. If you don't like me for some reason, that's your prerogative. It's really easy to ignore, or not read something to don't like or don't want to read.
 
JamTex said:
It's really simple. If you don't like a thread or post, ignore it. I didn't come here to rub anyone the wrong way. Certainly not my intent. I didn't come here to take over, just add. I don't talk badly about people. It's wrong to do that. If you don't like me for some reason, that's your prerogative. It's really easy to ignore, or not read something to don't like or don't want to read.
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Kinda interesting that you just up and disregarded what Texanmike had to say. Telling, even.
 
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It's really simple. If you don't like a thread or post, ignore it. I didn't come here to rub anyone the wrong way. Certainly not my intent. I didn't come here to take over, just add. I don't talk badly about people. It's wrong to do that. If you don't like me for some reason, that's your prerogative. It's really easy to ignore, or not read something to don't like or don't want to read.
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I appreciate the extra optimism, but it isn't easy to ignore or not respond to a post.

Especially when many posters are extremely prolific.

I couldn't care less about traditions, but I do prefer intelligent analysis. It's annoying when people feel it necessary to repeat the same opinion over and over in the same thread.
 
Mollywhopper said:
Kinda interesting that you just up and disregarded what Texanmike had to say. Telling, even.
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So what would you suggest? For me to leave this forum? Last I heard, this is Amerca. We all have the right to our own opinion. I'm not going to try to change yours, don't try to change mine. We all have the right to speak. Don't try to stop me and I won't try to stop you.
Again, if you don't like me, you can just ignore me.
 
JamTex said:
So what would you suggest? For me to leave this forum? Last I heard, this is Amerca. We all have the right to our own opinion. I'm not going to try to change yours, don't try to change mine. We all have the right to speak. Don't try to stop me and I won't try to stop you.
Again, if you don't like me, you can just ignore me.
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What's with you understanding not everything is completely opaque black or transparent white?
 
Besides. This is about football. It's a game and it's supposed to be fun. I like to enjoy everyone's posts and opinions. This is about our Texans, not me.
 
JamTex said:
It's really simple. If you don't like a thread or post, ignore it. I didn't come here to rub anyone the wrong way. Certainly not my intent. I didn't come here to take over, just add. I don't talk badly about people. It's wrong to do that. If you don't like me for some reason, that's your prerogative. It's really easy to ignore, or not read something to don't like or don't want to read.
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I get where people are coming from on this. Not that I'm saying there's anything wrong with the people who have migrated over here from HT.com, but there are reasons why people choose to post here and not there. People just have their preferences.

Speaking only for me, I'm here because when people go on the net to talk about their team, they'll usually go to the team site first and I just find there's a whole lot more stuff you have to wade through to find anything worth a damn, as opposed to a site that isn't directly connected to the team like this one, where fans are in charge. It just has a different feel than the canned BS that is most teams "official" MBs these days.

And I'm not telling anybody what to post or not post, I don't give a rat's ass either way, but man, the position some people take with regards to their posting habits is a little strange. You want to post a weekly thread for the upcoming game 6 nanoseconds after the last game, fine. I'd just like to know what's the point of posting the same exact thread with the same exact posts at HT.com? Or however many other boards for that matter? What it is you're trying to accomplish exactly? I just don't get the need to do all that BS or feel like it's your responsibility. Your duty in life isn't to flood every MB you can find with the weekly game thread and daily reminders of how many days we've got to go until kickoff. At least I hope it's not.

That said, the people having problems with these threads, or whatever problem it is they're having, ignore is your friend. Nobody is holding a gun to your head to click on threads you're tired of seeing. Don't like a poster's sunshine and lollipops, put him on ignore. Don't like a poster's constant Kubiak is god, ignore.

The only thing I don't like about that feature though is that it eliminates the entire thread if that ignored poster started it. So even if you don't care for all the pom poms and pep rallies, if people do start talking about the upcoming game instead of blasting a poster for farting rainbows or whatever, then you don't see any of it, so you miss out on all of that. Any way to remedy that other than un-ignoring someone?
 
Speedy said:
The only thing I don't like about that feature though is that it eliminates the entire thread if that ignored poster started it. So even if you don't care for all the pom poms and pep rallies, if people do start talking about the upcoming game instead of blasting a poster for farting rainbows or whatever, then you don't see any of it, so you miss out on all of that. Any way to remedy that other than un-ignoring someone?
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I was wondering if it worked that way, good to know.
 
Speedy said:
I get where people are coming from on this. Not that I'm saying there's anything wrong with the people who have migrated over here from HT.com, but there are reasons why people choose to post here and not there. People just have their preferences.

Speaking only for me, I'm here because when people go on the net to talk about their team, they'll usually go to the team site first and I just find there's a whole lot more stuff you have to wade through to find anything worth a damn, as opposed to a site that isn't directly connected to the team like this one, where fans are in charge. It just has a different feel than the canned BS that is most teams "official" MBs these days.

And I'm not telling anybody what to post or not post, I don't give a rat's ass either way, but man, the position some people take with regards to their posting habits is a little strange. You want to post a weekly thread for the upcoming game 6 nanoseconds after the last game, fine. I'd just like to know what's the point of posting the same exact thread with the same exact posts at HT.com? Or however many other boards for that matter? What it is you're trying to accomplish exactly? I just don't get the need to do all that BS or feel like it's your responsibility. Your duty in life isn't to flood every MB you can find with the weekly game thread and daily reminders of how many days we've got to go until kickoff. At least I hope it's not.

That said, the people having problems with these threads, or whatever problem it is they're having, ignore is your friend. Nobody is holding a gun to your head to click on threads you're tired of seeing. Don't like a poster's sunshine and lollipops, put him on ignore. Don't like a poster's constant Kubiak is god, ignore.

The only thing I don't like about that feature though is that it eliminates the entire thread if that ignored poster started it. So even if you don't care for all the pom poms and pep rallies, if people do start talking about the upcoming game instead of blasting a poster for farting rainbows or whatever, then you don't see any of it, so you miss out on all of that. Any way to remedy that other than un-ignoring someone?
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I do it because I like to. No other reason.
I enjoy everyone's opinion on the games. I will stir the pot once in a while, like my Jeffery comments, just to see what people think. If you think I seriously believe that Alshon Jeffery isn't as a good or better then anyone on our roster not named DeAndre Hopkins, then you're mistaken. I know he can play along with the best of them, but he won't be able to do it all by himself.
I really do like you guys opinions.
To me, it's fun to talk football.
On this forum with you guys and on the old HT.com forum.
I value your insights.
That's the only reason I do it.
The reason I post this thread on both boards is because research goes into each one. It takes time to write these threads. It's easier to write it on one board then copy and paste it to the other board instead of rewriting the whole thing all over again. I have to do this on my phone.
 
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JamTex said:
If you think I seriously believe that Alshon Jeffery isn't as a good or better then anyone on our roster not named DeAndre Hopkins, then you're mistaken.
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No. Nobody was mistaken. You gave your side in your words, and people, myself included, responded.
 
Mollywhopper said:
No. Nobody was mistaken. You gave your side in your words, and people, myself included, responded.
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And that's cool. That's the whole purpose of a message board. Post and get response. And you're posts are good. They are your opinion and that's good.
 
JamTex said:
And that's cool. That's the whole purpose of a message board. Post and get response. And you're posts are good. They are your opinion and that's good.
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But you're full of sh*t to say anyone was mistaken. We went off of your own words.
 
Texanmike02 said:
That's the problem with people like Jam. He comes in and announces that he is going to start a tradition. We had our own traditions. Instead of hanging around and getting a feel he wants to turn this into the board he came from. Of course that's going to rub people the wrong way. This place used to be dominated by realistic football talk. There were optimists and pessimists but it wasn't dominated by them. We used to mock boards of other teams with people who created posts like this.

The place was just fine the way it was. Want to carve out your own little space, fine... But don't come in here acting like you own the place, which is what Jam has done.
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Jam is a good guy who is very passionate about our Texans. I don't think it was his intention to take over this wonderful forum. He just love starting threads like this, which is fine by me. It actually gives us something to talk about during the week.
 
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