Texans no longer have a top ten offense, but the defense is way above the Richard Smith bottom 5 defense of 2010... but people ignore the warts that don't fit what they want to acknowledge... to some it's not about the team at all
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Texans no longer have a top ten offense, but the defense is way above the Richard Smith bottom 5 defense of 2010... but people ignore the warts that don't fit what they want to acknowledge... to some it's not about the team at all
Just asking for a top 20 offense. I know, that's a lot to ask.
And McClain, in that podcast that was the point of the discussion, flatly denied that accusation no matter what 'people' said
ego is not just on the field
With this ol that's too much ask this year.
With the injuries and lack of playing time, I agree
Texas Jake
Rookie
It is so depressing that we are 3-7... oh wait we are 7-3, but I guess that is depressing for some.
It's all about the aesthetics, not the score board
Texas Jake
Rookie
Here and I thought it was all about winning.
It's about SB chances... people say the Texans have no shot, but then again most said the wild-card 10-6 Giants didn't have a puncher's chance against the 16-0 Patriots and we all know how that turned out
Shishkabob
All Pro
Did you hear about how in the offseason OB was questioning making Watson QB1, and went to discuss it with Rick. Both men came out of the meeting agreeing moving slow with Watson was probably the best bet. Both men have said as much, probably because why get him killed behind that line when Savage can take the beating? Watson also got a lot of first team reps in TC last season, but I guess you can keep speaking on subjects without knowing the full story
I remember the first Super Bowl the Patriots won. All year I kept saying, "But they ain't played nobody."
Then every game in the playoffs I thought they would lose because they were playing "true contenders."
The other teams had better offenses, I think. That New England wasn't the offensive machine we know today.
The other team had better defenses.. the Pats were playing a WR at CB.
Patriots still found a way to win it all. One ugly win after another.
Uncle Rico
Ur apology should be as loud as Ur disrespect was
Bill OBrien knows how that went first hand.
Your point about Obrien stating Watson was the guy still makes me wonder why he didn't get any burn in training camp. NONE. it was actually a hot topic because normally you allow the backup reps with the 1s in case of injury. Watson got no time whatsoever with the first team, he was thrust into that role and flourished because of the quality of player he is, but O'Brien didn't exactly make it easy on him.
OBrien SAYS Watson was his guy .. game day body language and subsequent lack of burn could tell another tale.
After Watson blew up it was self preservation for O'Brien and he hitched his wagon to keep the job.
I remember an ex girlfriend of mine saying she loved me .. catching her kissing another dude didn't really fortify that comment.
Still though we are winning .. I still SMH at the guys who are saying the anti O'Brien crowd hates him "just because" and haven't really answered the many questions put forth about his subpar tendencies as coach. We are supposed to ignore all the bad just because we are winning? Ok. Again we we trot out the team for the annual playoff embarrassment we can blame the offensive line, Rick Smith, Dom capers anybody but Obrien .. he's infallible.
I don't think Belichick was Belichick at the time. I think he & Brady "grew" together & built on what they did that year.
Far enough, let me rephrase that....
I dont see anything in BOB that hints he will arrive at Bill level.
And at that time, no one saw anything in BB that he would ever be at Parcell's level
You could say that about anyone.... doesnt mean I want to put money on it happening.
I havent seen hope in OB being the guy that has the balls/brains combo it takes to get it done.
Believe me, I hope I'm wrong and I would LOVE to eat my words some day after he has a long impressive career as HC of the Texans.
I just dont see it.
Uncle Rico
Ur apology should be as loud as Ur disrespect was
So is it safe to say that Watson will be the catalyst that turns Bill into a 'good' coach? I hope that's true and that would start with Bill finding a good OC and concentrating on managing the game.
Perhaps my comment was too ambiguous?
I don't think any poster who spends countless hours on this forum is depress at 7-3 or angry about 7-3 or wanting O'Brien to fail. I think based on the offense last year, many fans were expecting an offense similar to any of the top ten offenses or better red zone offenses.
I believe people are reluctant to invest emotionally in a 7-3 team that could easily be 3-7 or 4-6. Any knowledgeable fan can compare the WR route combinations with other top teams and see it's the source of many issues in the red zone. How can you have faith in a coach who has a reputation as an offensive mind, but his offenses continues to be average to below average? How can you trust a team with such terrible red zone performance when you know they will have to face the high powered offenses like the Chiefs, Steelers, Patriots or even the Chargers?
Whenever I hear we are winning, I always go to the Jeff Van Gundy quote. "You cannot ignore in victory, what you wouldn't in defeat". If you look at the playoff picture, would any other team take O'Brien and his offense over theirs? Even with Watson? So, it's not depression, anger or aesthetics about a 7-3 record. It's identifying things that prevent you from being "all in" on a team that you feel will eventually let you down.
I think you are so very wrong with that comment
So, if the Texans are 7-3 and the offense is producing similar to the Saints, Chiefs, Chargers or Rams, posters would want O'Brien to fail? How about if they saw a scheme being built around Watson similar to Goff, Mahomes or even Trubisky, posters would want him to fail?
I'm sorry, no true Texans' fan is that miserable.
OptimisticTexan
2024 / Rebuilding Block 4 After Playoffs / Texans
Well, since O'Brien is doing such a great job I really hope McNair gets him locked up for an additional 10 years so we don't lose our Coach. Hate to see us miss out on any SB's without having O'Brien at the helm and still running his mind numbing offensive scheme. Do any of us think NFL Defensive Coordinators will ever get their defenses in a position to shut down this offense?
I don't see it either. But like I said before, 7 in a row is impressive I don't care what your schedule looks like. Then considering the way we've won, we know we're not that good of a team.
Once or twice winning a close game, the argument can be made that the talent won in spite of the coaching. But 7 in a row?
BO'b is doing something I can't identify. Something deeper than the stats. Hopefully this points to something concrete. A real change in the character of the team. No more soft paper tigers, no more pretenders, no more lettermans.
But true grit.
I'm not saying that it is... I'm waiting to see. But there is hope.
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I'm a pessimist, to me a good leader learns from mistakes but with Ob I always feel like I'm watching the cartoon character stepping on the rake as if it's his first time. Maybe it's just me.....
I do hope you are correct in what you say though. I'd love to eat me some crow with a big bottle of Cholula hot sauce.
I didn't say anything about IF the Texans were different, but how it is today
Does anyone think OB is doing a great job? Or even a good job? Hyperbole or sarcasm implied?
Texansballer74
The Marine
But he gets castigated here multiple times daily
Texansballer74
The Marine
Irks everyone I think, but for now it's working
Max
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Piggybacking on this, teams are choking against us like they choke against the really good teams. We've all seen it before where a team is outplaying the juggernaut in every way and find a way to lose it in the end because they choke. I don't consider the run we're on luck when team after team has found boneheaded ways to lose -- there might have been some luck there early on, but no one's lucky enough to win 7 in a row in the NFL. Problem is that this jedi power won't work against the elite teams. We're the 2nd tier juggernaut for now. Hopefully Gaine locks BOB in the closet the next few drafts and we're able to build enough talent to be one of those elite teams soon and maybe those jedi powers will be enough to win it all.
Great post
Lotta truth in it.
I guess it really comes down to who you feel made the final call when it came to a
Running the personnel side of the org
Obviously somebody got let go
Great post
Lotta truth in it.
I guess it really comes down to who you feel made the final call when it came to a
Running the personnel side of the org
Obviously somebody got let go
Jim Miller and Pat Kirwan don't know much? Sirius/XM NFL channel isn't 610AM. Not saying that I agree with them on this subject, but they do have a good feel for the NFL
Texansphan
Football connoisseur
We may or may not have the gunpowder to go very far in the playoffs but under the circumstances with a poor Oline, he is doing a decent job.
An ugly win is better than the flashiest L in my books.
The playbook will undoubtedly evolve with an improved line.
Until then, I am not going to complain if he keeps 'em comin'.
A bad OL is a hallmark of Bill O'Brien. If you look at the OL before and after he came, it's directly attributable to him.
We're gonna go next year with the same issue to fix and the same results.
Fair enough, there are some guys on radio who know what they are talking about. I listen to sports radio, but usually they aren't deep into the weeds and minor details of the Texans. Interestingly it's the hometown guys who are often the worst.
amazing80
Hall of Fame
The thing we have going for us come playoff time is Deshaun Watson. The guy will elevate his game and together with D Hop will dominate teams.
Our defense historically has elevated its game in the playoffs as well. Except the year against the Chiefs. But Brock really deflated everyone.
Our defense historically has elevated its game in the playoffs as well. Except the year against the Chiefs. But Brock really deflated everyone.
Texas Jake
Rookie
Uncle Rico
Ur apology should be as loud as Ur disrespect was
@amazing80 You mean Hoyer the Destroyer throwing 6 picks deflating that particular contest? I mean Oz was a terrible decision after that meltdown also in extreme panic mode the Texans sign a guy without even bringing him in for an interview. Lol. All you can do is laugh sometimes.
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